YTSEJAM Digest 2559
Today's Topics:
1) I believe in the power...of adult beverages.
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
2) Clockwork's "Search"
by Sean Malone <malone@arts.usf.edu>
3) Re: New Petition?
by "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn@quadnet.net>
4) Re: ozzfest
by BionicBean@aol.com
5) JKT
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
6) Re: Why I can't play guitar very well
by HseJackBlt@aol.com
7) Yamaha S-YG20 - MidPlug
by "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br>
8) DT song wanted at all costs!!!!
by Eugenio Culurciello <culurciello@russell.mb.jhu.edu>
9) Re:
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
10) Fates Warning/Paradise Lost
by Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com>
11) A New Light Shines.........
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
12) Faith No More?
by Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2558
by Michael Lafser <mlafser@mail.win.org>
14) Yeah...go fucking fuck a fucker you fuckfuck!
by Rahul Ananda <spod@u.washington.edu>
15) Ozzfest/Lollapalooza set-ups
by Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net>
16) metropolis part II
by "Daniele Pirra" <pirra@mbox.vol.it>
17) Labrie petition?
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
18) New DT www page from Japan
by s963713@ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp (SUZUKI Jun'ya)
19) Re: What is the mean of 'APSoG'?
by Symbolic66@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:22:28 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I believe in the power...of adult beverages.
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970516222225.0068dfb8@ici.net>
>Does anyone else find it peculiar that
>MTV shows rap videos during the day? Like maybe the fans of such music
>have nothing to do at this time, i.e. WORK.
That's an incredibly ignorant thing to say. That'd be like, oh...I don't
know...say: Telling someone the reason they don't like No Doubt is because
they're intimidated by popular/powerful women. Oh, wait a
minute....somebody *did* say that....
-----
>And that punk-ska-whatever sound seems, for better or worse, the wave of
>the immediate future. I guess it's supposed to bury "Alterative" music,
>from what the rock scribes are telling us.....
And we *know* that what they say goes. :) Actually, I guess it's more
important what MTV says.
-----
>Tho' I don't think LaBrie is in any
>danger of having his job removed, I'm 100% sure that at least occasionally
>the other members get frustrated with him. It's only human. When four
>out of the five players on stage are kickin' ass and the frontman puts on
>a display that makes many in the audience cringe, it's gotta start wearin'
>on them,
And I'm 100% sure that at least occasionally *every* member of the band is
pissed off at someone else in the band. They *all* make mistakes - THAT'S
only human. Singling out the singer for notice is a bit unfair because he's
the only one who has to connect with the audience on that level.
Plus, let's face it: If you're in a band and you take it as a personal
affront whenever someone else in the band fucks up, you're not going to be
in a band for very long.
Put another way: if a hockey goalie let's in a game-tying goal, a bad team
will say "Dammit, we gotta get ourselves a new goalie". A good team will go
out and fight to get the lead back. It's the same with a band: you don't
say "Oh dammit, the singer/drummer/guitarist/bassist/keysman fucked up
again. Why can't we get somebody competant" - you say "Hey, let's make the
rest of this show so damn good that only the shmucks on our internet
mailing list will ever remember that you fucked up!"
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________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Deliverance - "If You Will"
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:40:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sean Malone <malone@arts.usf.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Clockwork's "Search"
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970516223706.23297A-100000@satie>
Just wanted to say a few words about the new CD. I think fans of
DT, and prog in general, will like this CD. There are some very memorable
parts in these songs, which is hard to achieve in a genre of so much
forgettable music. This CD will probably get them signed, definitely give
it a listen.
SM
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Cynic/Ever info: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/cynic/
Rush Tribute CD: http://www.zaks.com/magnacarta/magcar03.htm
Guitars That Rule the World CD: http://www.iuma.com/Metal_Blade/guitars/
Review of Cortlandt http://www.innerviews.org/playlist/malone.html
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 00:53:59 -0400
From: "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn@quadnet.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: New Petition?
Message-ID: <199705170459.AAA22561@mail.quadnet.net>
>
>Hey, maybe we can start a petition to get James kicked out of the band,
>since everyone here seems to hate him...
>
Actually, I don't. He's the reason I started listening to DT in the first
place. I thought he had an amazing voice, and I still do.
James.... don't go.... don't go..... don't go away......
Lauren
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 01:19:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: BionicBean@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: ozzfest
Message-ID: <970517011902_2018697722@emout08.mail.aol.com>
What up,
I live in atlanta and haven't yet seen or heard anything of ozzfest. How can
this be? If any of you know anything of dates, venues, etc, I would love to
know. You can email me privately at BIONICBEAN@aol.com.
Thanks,
The "Bean"
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 02:37:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JKT
Message-ID: <199705170637.CAA15776@newman.concentric.net>
Attention Jazz/Fusion fans:
If you take kindly to music such as that of Mike Stern or Scott Henderson,
you NEED to check out Jonathan Kreisberg Trio. Since a number of you folks
are in Atlanta, I thought I'd mention that they're playing tomorrow (Sunday
May 18) in Atlanta at Smith's Olde Bar, 1578 Peidmont Rd, 9:30pm. I was
lucky enough to see these nutty boys for the third time tonight in
Gainesville, Florida, and they SMOKE like you wouldn't believe! At tonight's
show, they played 3 sets for a total of over 3 full hours of
shredfest....and the cover was only $2! (Prices may vary by venue.) Hell,
even if you're not into Jazz at all, you still should check them out just to
see how cool they are. Lately they've been touring up and down the East
coast, and if that's where you live and you want to know if they'll be by
your neck of the woods, check out their web page and get yourself on their
snail-mail list.
JKT web page at http://www.gate.net/~vvbatboy
Now Playing: Jonathan Kreisberg Trio, "Live at The Covered Dish, 2/6/97"
Have a day,
-Rick Audet
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 03:04:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: HseJackBlt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Why I can't play guitar very well
Message-ID: <970517030443_778255931@emout03.mail.aol.com>
>Because I got a free pack of strings with a guitar magazine recently. My
Jackson
>plays like an Ibanez now :)
Were they Fender Bullets with your Guitar World? Speaking of Ibanez, I
played the RG 7-string today. It was a tad weird at first, but as soon as I
got used to it, I loved it. I didn't even play through an amp, but some
rackmount gear (Tech 21, Boss) into a Mesa/Boogie power amp, and it sounded
great. Of course, I played the intro to "ACoS" and "The Mirror" (finally
with a low B, yes!). Some guy was hoggin' the Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier
with a Fender...Anyway, it was royal blue and was going for $899.
Sincerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 05:49:40 -0300
From: "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br>
To: "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yamaha S-YG20 - MidPlug
Message-ID: <199705170634.GAA12195@server.ibpinetsp.com.br>
I found this very interesting soft out there, and I highly recomend it!
It's on: www.ysba.com or ftp.ysba.com/pub/midplug (something like this).
Look for MidiPlug... It's 2.5Mb but is worthy. If you don't have any
powerfull soundboard, external Midi or something to make (specially) the
drums at your midi files sound like real drums, get it! Not that cheesy
sound.
The only problem is that if you don't have a high CPU and etc your
computer you work very slowly. I have this problem and besides this, Y-SG20
has a kind of 0.5s delay to receive the information from midi device then
play it. When using it with Cakewalk I choose drums from Yamaha and the
rest from MidiMapper (for example) and it sounds like the drummer was
playing another song. :)
The S-YG20 provides 360 sounds which include 128 GM-compatible sounds, 9
drum kits + 2 SFX kits, and also reverb, covering not only the conventional
GM sounds,
but also sounds unique to the XG format proposed by Yamaha (some substitute
sounds are included).
What are you waiting for?! :)
* Dan Souza *
soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br
"It's all about peace and love and good hapiness stuff."
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 10:36:50 -0400
From: Eugenio Culurciello <culurciello@russell.mb.jhu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT song wanted at all costs!!!!
Message-ID: <337DC282.53CE@russell.mb.jhu.edu>
Dear jatseyammer friends,
I am looking for a DT song I really do like:
"TO LIVE FOREVER"
Is there any way I can have from anybody
a CD with this song on it?
Please contact me anytime,
EUGE
-- --------------------------------------------------------- Culurciello Eugenio Johns Hopkins University 4233 Hickory Av. #C Krieger Mind/Brain Institute MD21211 Baltimore USA tel:(lab) (410)-516-4357 tel:(home)(410)-366-7442 fax:(off) (410)-516-8648 --------------------------------------------------------- Official LabPage: http://www.mb.jhu.edu/cns/cnslab.html Home: http://russell.mb.jhu.edu/~culurciello/index.html --------------------------------------------------------- DEEI, Bioengineering Dept. University of Trieste, ITALY ---------------------------------------------------------..So forever hold the dreams within our hearts Through nature's inflexible grace I'm learning to live. Dream Theater, Images & Words, 1992
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:51:00 PDT From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Message-ID: <199705171551.IAA29960@f3.hotmail.com>
>Rip, an old "cliche" for you: "two wrongs dont make a right"
But three rights do make a left........
laterz 'n stuff, kevin hammer ------------------------------------------------------ "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit "And I swear that I dont have a gun." Kurt Cobain ------------------------------------------------------ Visit the world of Tufif 'de Siks http://www.getaway.net/khammer/
--------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 12:54:10 -0500 From: Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates Warning/Paradise Lost Message-ID: <337DF0C1.B15@dns.thewebcorp.com>
Hello,
I have coupons for two free albums from the Columbia House record club. The selection is kind of limited, but I did find two Fates Warning albums in the catalogue. "Chasing Time", and "Parallels". I was wondering if a fan of this band could tell me which one of these is the best. In there opinion, of course. I've heard a sound clip of this band and liked it. They also have the Paradise Lost album called "Draconian Times". Does anybody have this album? Is it good? Thanks in advance for any replies.
-C. Glover
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:03:57 -0400 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A New Light Shines......... Message-ID: <337DE4FD.6B53@earthlink.net>
Hi jammers,
Below is a message I posted to the Bard's Tavern (BLIND GUARDIAN mailing list) last night and feel it is relevant here because I have just discovered some AMAZING new bands in a musical genre I wouldn't have even thought twice about. It seems that black metal has some SUPERB bands that more people should take notice of. I can't believe no one hear mentions these guys more often...I was in a musical state of bliss as I listened to these albums (something few bands can accomplish for me!) Anyhow, here is my post and hope more people get into these bands. IN FLAMES is so good its addicting!!!!!
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Hello all,
just a quick message to Ed. I went to Slipped Disc last night around 8:30pm (right after chatting with Jade, Efi, & ?? sorry ..forgot the others...my memory isn't as insane as Jade's!) and picked up what I call a "BLACK METAL Startet Kit Vol. I" :-)
I bought DARK TRANQUILITY "The Gallery", IN FLAMES "The Jester Race", DISSECTION "Storm of the Light's Bane", and found AT THE GATES "Slaughter Of The Soul" used for $8.99. Also got ATHEIST "Unquestionable Presence" used. Plus rented two videos: IRON MAIDEN "Donnignton '92" and QUEENSRYCHE "Live in Tokyo 1985".
The reason I'm posting such a quick response (I'm typing this at 3:45am) after my first foray into this new world of black metal is that I am paralyzed by pleasure as to how good my first two listens are! So far I've only listened to DISSECTION and IN FLAMES and am listening with a huge grin on my face.
Keep in my mind that I REALLY value what you guys think of albums and stuff and decided to buy these albums because of all the rave reviews and Ed Hou's constant prodding. So, without hearing any types of audio samples of these bands I just up and bought them all ($65 total...not bad actually. But pretty risky considering I HATE the black metal I've known so far. EMPEROR is just worm-shit when compared to these guys..I can't understand how you love 'em so much Ed? I have to agree with Pedro on this one..they just plain suck!)) Anyhow, glad to say that so far the first two I heard are brilliant!!!!!!
DISSECTION had me instantly hooked with their musical talents (thats what really matters to me....duh, I guess thats for everyone also :-) and the vocals were pleasantly tolerable (ala CORONER). A great album right down to the packaging. I actually sat down with the lyrics and all and listened straight through for the whole damn thing..thats quite an accomplishment for a band to have such a hold on me. One thing black metallers know how to do is create an amazing atmosphere through lyrics. I'd say its pretty hard to make me feel as if I'm sitting on a mountaintop surrounded by swirling winds as dawn approaches. Its nice..........
I'm listening to IN FLAMES as I type this and feel my energy draining because I know the type of review I want to give will take me well into the morning and I must go to sleep soon or I will collapse onto my keyboard. IN FLAMES has seriously opened me up to a whole new musical experience I havent felt for in a long time (perhaps since i first heard GAMMA RAY's "Land of the Free" or HELSTAR's "Nosferatu") There is just no compensating the feeling when you pick up a rock in the woods and discover a flawless gem inside! This is one of those rare albums that has complexity and EMOTION (like GR "Land of the Free"!) Its one of those albums I'll NEED to listen to VERY often (which is hard for me because my cd collection is around 500 now). There are only so many words I can use to accurately describe my feelings towards this album. It has brightened up a small portion of my life and transcended all my expectations.
If the other discs I bought (AT THE GATES, DARK TRANQUILITY)are as good as these I owe a big fuckin' hail to Ed Hou! HAIL, HAIL, HAIL!
Although I still wanna egg your car for your FATES WARNING and HELSTAR comments; these recommendations may reduce my penalties to stealing the air caps from your tires instead :-)
HAIL IN FLAMES and DISSECTION!!!!!! Do not hail EMPEROR..they sound like a whimpering puppy when compared to these amazing talents!
I MUST get some sleep if I wanna give the other discs a fair listen..i think I'm addicted to IN FLAMES now..crap. Just goes to show what an impact a simple melody can have (something MTV doesnt see...poor misguided fools) on a persons life.
Music soothes the savage beast...how true :-)
cheers to great music!
Carlo "IN FLAMES" D'Angelo (still aka "Fates")
P.S. You were right Ed; although you don't know how hard it is to say that!
-- _ __| |__ "When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __| maybe then you'll begin to understand | | Life down here is just a strange illusion." | | |_|
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic metal"
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:33:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net> To: DT Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Faith No More? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970517132808.25844A-100000@scc.net>
About a year ago on the 'jam, someone I think said that Faith No More had broken up. That kind of sucked because they seemed to be one of the few bands out there that really stuck to their creative genius and maintained a definite identity.
But recently I heard their "new song" on the radio and I'm wondering what's up? Are they back? Had they never parted ways?
On a side note, I just wanted to mention something...
Here in Minneapolis/St. Paul: 1. 3 months ago, a hard-core alternative radio station (the real kind) went belly-up and gave way to... A METAL STATION!!! 2. 2 months ago, a hard-core country station (the lame kind) went belly-up and gave way to... ANOTHER METAL STATION!!!
So in the span of one month, our area went from a musically sick and withered situation to "Hey - I don't like this metal song, so I'll change it to the other metal station". It's nice - very nice. I'm trying to get the harder of the two stations to play some DT besides "Pull Me Under". I don't believe they own a copy of Awake though. =(
But anyway, who's complaining? They both rock and I'm as happy as a little girl!
- Dr. Teeth
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:48:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Lafser <mlafser@mail.win.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2558 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970517134749.2851A-100000@winc0>
What the hell are you people thinking? James Labrie is one of the best singers around today. and besides, can you think of anyone better to replace him? He is awsome and matches the music very well.
me
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Rahul Ananda <spod@u.washington.edu> To: Fucknuts <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Yeah...go fucking fuck a fucker you fuckfuck! Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970517114900.39962B-100000@dante19.u.washington.edu>
This is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen on the jam. You're gonna have this rolling in my head for days, Mads!
You fuckfuck! :)
Rahul Ananda : spod@u.washington.edu or thehand@dreamt.org -----------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:18:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net> To: DT Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ozzfest/Lollapalooza set-ups Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970517151254.26817A-100000@scc.net>
For 2-stage festivals like Ozzfest and Lollapalooza, how does it work? Are two bands always simultaneously playing, or does the second stage band play while the first stage band is setting up and vice versa? Does the crowd kind of move back and forth to follow whatever band is playing, or usually does the second stage crowd just camp in front of the second stage and vice versa?
I plan on attending both the Ozzfest and Lollapalooza (Tool, baby!!!) and I'm curious as to what I'll find.
Rock on, Brother Beavis!
- Dr. Teeth (The "other guy" from WHAM!)
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:47:52 +0000 From: "Daniele Pirra" <pirra@mbox.vol.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: metropolis part II Message-ID: <199705172047.NAA00359@odin.ax.com>
Hey, do you know where I can find somethin' about the song 'Metropolis part II' ?? (does it exist ?).
Bye
STEo
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:10:44 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Labrie petition? Message-ID: <199705172110.OAA07722@goodnet.com>
To put it subtly, "Fuck that!" LaBrie is the MAN. He shall sing for DT for many many moons.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 06:55:48 +0900 From: s963713@ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp (SUZUKI Jun'ya) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New DT www page from Japan Message-ID: <199705172152.GAA25615@icho.ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp>
Hi there,
I'm SUZUKI Jun'ya from Japan.
I made my own www page and this has DT related pages. Mainly for Japanese bu t also has DT bootleg CD discography. Still there are no review but are at l east some information. If you're interested in, browse this URL;
http://www.ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp/~s963713/
And please let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Jun'ya
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 18:33:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Symbolic66@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: What is the mean of 'APSoG'? Message-ID: <970517183311_335777089@emout04.mail.aol.com>
<< Well, this is one more of the Non-Dream Theater content messages (let's hope we can make the number of NTDC messages to zero). APSoG stands for A Pleasant Shade of Grey, if I'm not mistaken. And is the new album of Fates Warning with Kevin Moore on keybords. >>
that is dt material if you ask me... kevin moore is a part of dt even today when he quit the band the keys in awake and earlier cds did not disappear...theyre still there and theyre still dt so i consider anything about kevin moore dt material even though he isnt in the band currently...
anyone agree?
brian (symbolic) www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palms/5578/home.htm
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