YTSEJAM Digest 2576
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2574
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
2) New Megadeth
by Mike Hill <psytron@ntr.net>
3) Met II/Bahr CD's
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
4) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2574
by Mike Muscarella <MuscarellaM@HARTWICK.EDU>
5) Mike Bahr...
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
6) Mike Bahr
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2571
by "Mr. B" <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
8) Stuff
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2575
by Chris Daley <cdaley@gmu.edu>
10) an opposition on rap
by filth <ripzero@inlink.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2573
by "Paul Matthews" <J6865644@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
12) Re: an opposition on rap
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) laterz
by filth <ripzero@inlink.com>
14) Re: laterz
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
15) Down at Fraggle Rock!
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
16) TESLA!! YesyesYes!
by A <breuric@tpgi.com.au>
17) Mike Portnoy Info
by D <carpe1@hotmail.com>
18) Can we end this already?
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz aka Kirby 8>" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:24:35 -0400
From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2574
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970521172435.009122f0@pophost.fore.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>newbies and veterans - proposition for the list
>>>>>>>>It's not the questions I mind (though I know I get testy), its that
>>>>>>>>people just jump on and blurt what's on their minds instead of taking
>>>>>>>>the time to read through for a week and find things out. I know people
>>>>>>>>say that there is little DT content on here, but if all you're looking
>>>>>>>>for is news and facts, that's what websites and FAQs are for. It
doesn't
>>>>>>>>hurt the list, but I imagine those messages get annoying to those
in ack
>>>>>>>>mode.
If you skipped the above paragraph, read it before you move on^
No, those type of messages are exactly what I would love to see (and I am
in ACK mode). What gets annoying in ACK mode (and most likely in digest
mode also) are messages like this:
>>I just drank a Mountain Dew and I think my nuts are schrinking.
>
>Hey you know that wasn't really acid. I just tore a corner off a piece
>of notebook paper... :)
>
>>i have this rare medical condition which requires me to call someone a
>>dumbass at least once daily.
>
>My condition forces me to BE a dumbass at least twice daily.
Now I have no idea who wrote this, and this wasn't singled out for any
particuar reason other than convenience, but I just can't fathom how
someone on this list would rather read this post, than someone asking the
difference between the Japanese LATM, and the German LATM. This is my
point. If this is not the feeling of the majority of the list, then we
should start thinking about creating another list - or maybe they should.
After all, I believe my post on LATM holds much more value to a DT fan than
this one above, even if you already know the answer. What value does your
post hold?
KAI
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:31:48 -0400
From: Mike Hill <psytron@ntr.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Megadeth
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970521213148.00726ad0@ntr.net>
welp, i've been listening to the new Megadeth, "Cryptic Writings", due out
June 17th.. with all the Megadeth talk that was here not too long ago, I
figured someone would be interested..
1. "Trust" - Different yet cool song. "Angry Again" tempo with "Hangar 18"
elements thrown in. Starts off with orchastra. Has a sampled speaking part
right before a cool acoustic instrumental part that totally reminded me of
Dream Theater tunes such as Space Dye Vest. Cool song.
2. "Almost Honest" - Don't like this one too much. Could be okay, but the
weird effect on the guitar throughout the chorus makes it sound kinda
glammy. Cool solo though. Sort of like "Elysian Fields".
3. "Use The Man" - Weird song. Took a few listens, but it is one of the
best on the record. Starts off with a sample of some 60's song. Goes into
Dave singing over acoustic guitar. Chorus is slow and heavy, reminiscent of
Alice in Chains. Gets faster for the solo, with a cool ending.
4. "Mastermind" - Cool song that starts off with a bass riff a la "Peace
Sells". Again, mid-tempo sort of thing, cool chorus. The ending is great.
5. "The Disintegrators" - One of the best on the disc. Megadeth hasn't
thrashed like this since Peace Sells, total kick ass thrash. 2 Cool solos.
Catchy chorus.
6. "I'll Get Even" - Worst song on the disc. 'Surf' chords with weird
effect reminiscent of "Until It Sleeps". Yuck.
7. "Sin" - Heavy mid-tempo tune, with a cool chorus and solo. Pretty cool.
8. "A Secret Place" - Another weird tune. Sorta slow, starts with clean
guitar. Not a bad song, not great either.
9. "Have Cool, Will Travel" - Great song. Megadeth gone blues! Starts off
with cool guitar riff, with harmonica coming in after 2 measures. Cool
solo, and great ending.
10. "She Wolf" - Fast and heavy. Main riff reminiscent of "Disposable Heroes".
Very catchy chorus, cool ending.
11. "Vortex" - Awesome intro/solo riff. Cool chorus, incredible solo.
Great song.
12. "F.F.F." - Stands for Fight For Freedom. Either the best or second best
song on the disc. Total thrash again, Peace Sells era. Awesome solo. Lots
of double bass, including Slayer-esque speed double bass after the solo.
Kick ass.
Overall, I really like 10 of the 12 songs. Dave's singing is awesome and
the band is way more intense than they have been in the past. Lots of
personal lyrics, not too much political stuff, except for F.F.F. Far
heavier and faster than "Youthanasia", and not nearly as repetitive. Much
improved.
later,
mike
psytron@ntr.net
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:41:10 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Met II/Bahr CD's
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970521174107.00685744@ici.net>
>>>Anyone heard any news about Metropolis II? Will it be ready in time for
>>>the next CD?
>>
>>Oh, my bad. I guess this is only your first day on the list, otherwise
>>you'd know what the answer to this was.
>
>Actually, hmm, are any of yall managing the band? Are any of yall in the
>band itself? They could release Metropolis II on their LP, or they could
>make an EP later. We really don't know. We can't believe everything we
>see on a web page....
No offense, but some of the people on this list are in direct contact with
the band members, and they said Metropolis II isn't written yet. Yes,
we're'making the assumption that that means it won't be on the next album,
but that's a pretty safe assumtion, given that: 1) They already have WAY
too much material written for the next album, and 2) The band has said they
want the next album to "flow", having a lot of different kinds of song on
it. That would be tough to do if you're including a 25+ (or whatever)
minute song on there.
yes, they could definitely release it as an EP later, but that wasn't one
of the questions being asked.
And when it comes to the web page at http://www.rsabbs.com/dt/ - you can
pretty much take that info to the bank.
-----
>Oh, and to people who seem to be buying all sorts of bootlegs from this
>Mike Bahr guy . . . don't waste your money. If he can't supply what he
>boasts that he'll get, don't bother. Nothing's worth it, if you have
>to wait six damn months for a stupid CD.
Okay, this is totally uncalled for. You obviously have no clue what you're
talking about.
1) Mike Bahr doesn't *get* bootlegs - he *makes* them. You're comment about
him "boasting about what he can get" therefore makes no sense.
2) His production and distribution record is exemplary, taking into
consideration the high volume, the vagaries of the post office, and the
fact that he's basically a one-man operation.
3) Problems with distribution do happen, and I'm sure the complaints you
saw on the list were dealt with in a timely manner. Why don't you pipe down
until you *personally* have a problem with him, and let these other people
handle their own situations.
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Deliverance - "If You Will"
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:44:03 -0400
From: Mike Muscarella <MuscarellaM@HARTWICK.EDU>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2574
Message-ID: <01BC660E.9D45BDA0@muscarellamn1.hartwick.edu>
Tim Adams wrote about green Jems....
I'm a guitar player so I have an idea of whatyou are talking about. I =
know that there is a web site devoted to the Green Jem. I don't really =
remember what the URL is but, if you search for Ibanez jems.... you'll =
find it. I think they go for about 3 thousand but I could be wrong ( =
on the low end ) either way, they are expensive. Happy bidding!
Me. --> Guitarist; 'Round About Midnight.
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:53:55 -0400
From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Bahr...
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970521175354.0069db20@mindspring.com>
>Oh, and to people who seem to be buying all sorts of bootlegs from this
>Mike Bahr guy . . . don't waste your money. If he can't supply what he
>boasts that he'll get, don't bother. Nothing's worth it, if you have >to
wait six damn >months for a stupid CD.
This really pisses me off. Mike Bahr has been one of the most reliable
sources of live material I've found. Whenever I had a question or problem
(moneywise, for example) he's gone out of his way to help in whatever way
he can. He's been here way longer than the guy that posted this message,
which is obvious given the great reputation Mike commands on this list. I
challenge the guy who wrote this shit to make a CD of better quality, for
only $25, and have the speed of a large CD printing firm. Realize that
it's just him and his new wife doing this entire operation (1000s of CDs)
and I think they do a damn good job. If you don't agree, just don't buy
the CDs. Until you know exactly what you're talking about, keep your mouth
shut.
Adam
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:44:43 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Bahr
Message-ID: <199705212244.PAA18234@gms.gmsnet.com>
Once again... I must remind you all, that Bahr is just an AI program that
takes orders for automatically pressed CDs, sometimes there's a glitch in
the program and your orders are sidetracked, but then our "garbage
collection" subroutines kick into action every 6 months or so, and picks
up on your sidetracked orders...
But on a more unCYNICal side.... Mike is a great dude and offers great shit
for people who would not have access to this hard to get stuff, so please
check your facts before saying stuff about Mr. Bahr, he's also really loaded
down by a lot of orders, give him time. Heck, I've been known to send out
mailings well over a year later...
And back to our regular stations:
Metropolis Part II!!! I heard it on the radio the other day!!! It was awesome,
too bad they played only the 6 minute version, the original was something like
55 minutes... and for some reason, they called it ASSPOG??
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:46:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mr. B" <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2571 Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970521174551.19275B-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
> Oh, and to people who seem to be buying all sorts of bootlegs from this > Mike Bahr guy . . . don't waste your money. If he can't supply what he > boasts that he'll get, don't bother. Nothing's worth it, if you have to > wait six damn months for a stupid CD.
I think you're confusing him with the CD Cellar.
Brandon
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Date: Wed, 21 May 97 17:49 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stuff Message-ID: <m0wUJG2-0004dWC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Just wanted to inform everyone that MTV played a good video today and i'm still in shock. They played Queensryche's Silent Lucidity and I'm still happy. It came in at number 309 or something on their top 500. Geoff kind of looked like a pretty boy. Speaking of which, I think James LaBrie would make a pretty good woman. I think he needs a sex change and should do a remix of Just A Girl (the extended 15 minute mix) or You Oughtta Know. And following that, I think James and Charlie should get married. This is just my sick humor again- calm down everyone. Fuck- I am a fucking asshole.
Don Compton mcauburn@iinc.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784 ...so many fucking times, I fucking tried and fucking failed to gather my fucking courage fucking reach again for that fucking nail, life's been fucking like dragging feet through fucking sand and never fucking finding the promised fucking land.... Queensryche- Promised Fucking Land
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 18:51:55 -0400 From: Chris Daley <cdaley@gmu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2575 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970521185152.0068ab14@mason.gmu.edu>
>Adam >http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone >-- Tapelist/Setlists > >I dunno about that. Rap is pretty easily definable. Just listen for >people with (seemingly) the IQ of a monkey speaking (not singing) in dirty >nursery rhymes. Generally try to make themselves look tough even tho' most >of them are under 150 lbs. 98% have no instrumentation and 99.999% have no >talent. Disdain and lack of respect for women is rampant with words such as >"bitch" and "ho" appearing frequently. Also defined by boring, repetitive >sequencing and really obnoxious bass that affecionados of the genre enjoy >blasting at high volumes out of their car (usually a real beater) windows >to annoy passersby. Frequently samples are ripped from other artists and >played off as the rap "artist's" own. Speaking of rap "artists," for some >reason none of them use their real names, and, depending on which coast of >the United States one is based on, one or more secret handshakes are used. >Childish fights b/t the two coasts happen often. One hit "wonders" are >very common. The genre is also occasionaly termed "hip-hop," "dance >music," and "complete shit."
Yah rap is full of wannabe gangsters and silly lil people in general. But, I must admit it's fun to listen to sometimes. And rap was never about the musical tecnicalities or whatever. Even though bass is a little overrated...I have very few rap albums. I can't get into the stuff much myself. Although I dig Sir Mix-A-Lot. :>
"I like big butts and I cannot lie"
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 18:11:21 -0500 From: filth <ripzero@inlink.com> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: an opposition on rap Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970521231121.0073f094@mail.inlink.com>
>Yah rap is full of wannabe gangsters and silly lil people in general.
thats about as stereotypical as saying everyone with a guitar is a mindless grunge rocker from seattle. do DT sing about killing themselves and depression and the things nirvana sing about? nope. are they on the radio? nope. do they have insight? yep. there's tons of rap artists out there right now just like them on the rap scene. ones who rap intelligently and with a lot of talent. saying all rappers are like notorious BIG is like saying all guitarrists are kurt cobain.
i want to bring this around to another point- eternity-x's web page. i went there a while back taking ed's advice to get the absolutely free demo. after i read through their stereotye filled nazi survey filled with biased multiple choice answers you could give me a free copy of all their albums and i'd throw them in the sewer. wouldnt even bother to pawn them because i dont think someone else should come along and buy a CD by these imbacile immature musicians. i never even bothered to do the survey. one of the first questions was regarding the fact that rap should have a "c" in front of it and be called crap. c'mon, this is lame. even mike portnoy would detest that, its just being closed minded. then i couldnt even answer the question. it was asking if i liked rap music and for the "yes" it had a multiple choice answer that made me sound like a complete goob for clicking it. i'm obviously not checking that. here on the prog list we're on and understanding how underground this type of music is, its sad to see stereotypes of other type of music prevail. stereotypes happen when people close their minds and open their mouthes. sorry ed, just wasnt keen on this little number.
-Mario
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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:14:16 +1000 From: "Paul Matthews" <J6865644@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2573 Message-ID: <A32F7F1195@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
> 1). there are newer people (note: not newbies. I don't believe in > that term) here, who only want to hear about DT. But the problem > is, they'd actually want to discuss things that have been beaten to > death time and again here. So the veterans are tired of it. These > people get somewhat upset that the list doesn't conform to their > expectations.
Ok then, does anybody know of another DT mail list??? This list should now be called "yooselessjam" since stuff all of the content pertains to DT anymore.
Don't clutter the list anymore than it already is, please mail me privately if you have a response :)
Thanx,
Paul
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 16:38:43 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: an opposition on rap Message-ID: <199705212338.QAA18698@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, filth said: >>Yah rap is full of wannabe gangsters and silly lil people in general. > >thats about as stereotypical as saying everyone with a guitar is a mindless >grunge rocker from seattle. do DT sing about killing themselves and
Rip, don't try to defend rappers... you are going too far... we are not listening to you... next thing you know you'll be trying to defend dumping nuclear wastes cause we're trying to stereotype nuclear waste as radioactive.
-The Doc :)
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 18:47:39 -0500 From: filth <ripzero@inlink.com> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: laterz Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970521234739.0074a8f8@mail.inlink.com>
> >Rip, don't try to defend rappers... you are going too far... we are not >listening to you... next thing you know you'll be trying to defend dumping >nuclear wastes cause we're trying to stereotype nuclear waste as radioactive.
dont worry, i've been planning to do this for a while, but i never got around to it. i'm not doing this in retort to this comment, but it did get me off my ass to do it. tata jammers, its time i part ways with ye. i'm not blaming on the list that sucks, nor the flame wars, nor anything, just that i lack what i initially was on this thing for. i'm saving the bullshit comments to try and piss people off or act like anyone cares, just want to inform everyone that if they do need to contact me, the address is still here, so thats where to do it. a billion thanks to everyone i've ever met, has helped me, and has become great friends, and whom i'll definately still keep in touch with. its been a fun year of my life. bye. ~Rip
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:19:38 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: laterz Message-ID: <199705220019.RAA19092@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, filth said: > >around to it. i'm not doing this in retort to this comment, but it did get >me off my ass to do it. tata jammers, its time i part ways with ye. i'm >not blaming on the list that sucks, nor the flame wars, nor anything, just
<sniff sniff> NO RIP!!! DON'T GO!!!! PLEEEASSEEE DON'T GOO!!!! DON'T GOOOOO!!!
That sucks that you want to leave us... even though I still can't say that that defending rap was a justified effort...
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 18:25:24 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Down at Fraggle Rock! Message-ID: <199705220025.RAA00324@odin.ax.com>
> Ok then, does anybody know of another DT mail list??? This list > should now be called "yooselessjam" since stuff all of the content > pertains to DT anymore.
Well, the fact that DT info has been quite stagnant for the last six months contributes to this. As soon as the new album comes out, things are really gonna be exciting, people will discuss the context of the album, performance reviews will be issued like crazy, new parodies like Pull My Finger and Puh'Pounded will be written. Trust me, it gets better than this. :)
"Trash Heap has spoken... NYAAAAAAAAAAH!" ---KorgX3
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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:19:34 +1000 (EST) From: A <breuric@tpgi.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TESLA!! YesyesYes! Message-ID: <199705220119.LAA04854@random.tpgi.com.au>
Yes JeffE! I am a Jammer that apreciates TESLA. There are two other Jammers i know of that also love Tesla... (namely my brother and my cousin) but they won't reply cause theyre'slackers' ie they very occasionaly read theyre YSTEJAMS and never post..... but thats another story... Guess I 'm a slacker since this is a reply to about 15 digests ago but hey . I can't help myself... : ) Song and Emotion covered by Dream Theater..... hmmmm *mulls it over a while.....* Yea... it could work. Yep...
I must admit i'd never think of DT covering Tesla... but I reckon it'd come off kinda neat. After all Song and Emotion is alot stronger base to work from than say elton john,deep purple, queen or journey can provide. (Don't get me wrong all u fans of these bands/songs...these are great songs.... BUT Song and Emotion is Sensational.!) It be interesting to see just how JLB would pull it off.... i feel his passion is of a different kind to Jeff Keiths.
Anyway... as for TESLA in general they are one of my (if not THE) favorite hard rockin' type bands... defininately underrated. I could go on and on singing thier praises.... but since this is a DT list suffice to say if your in the mood for some emotional, straight from the heart, to 'take you away to some special place' hard rock, go check out BUst A Nut ... their last (and IMO) best album. Or any of thier others.....
And my TESLA question .... - in reference to thier Live Acoustical album entitled Five Man Acoustical Jam.. - did this album 'kick off' the current craze on acoustic albums ala" MTV live and Unplugged..?" cuz... that ... waz a freakin awesome (but brave!) move by them to release that when they did.
Anyway .. Ive drivelled too long .. LonG live TESLA .. (in our memories, hearts, and CD players! ) and heres looking forward to the DT does Tesla cover album! Hehe!
Later Brent aka Zajk.
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 21:27:46 -0400 From: D <carpe1@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Portnoy Info Message-ID: <3383A112.26B4@hotmail.com>
Hey all:
A friend of mine was at the Modern Drummer drum festival last weekend, and he just happened to run into Mike Portnoy. He asked MP what's going on with the album, and MP said they'll be going into the studio in a few days. Also, MP mentioned that Dream Theater may be opening for Queensryche in the near future.
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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 21:21:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz aka Kirby 8>" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Can we end this already? Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970521211638.19654A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>
Jammers-
First I would like to apologize for starting all of this flame mess to begin with. However, I have two more things to say. And this post is intended for all Ytsejammers, so don't think I'm being hypocritical.
1. If anyone has any nice/sarcastic/rude/bullshit comments that they would like to make to a single person, DO IT IN PRIVATE E-MAIL. This includes you, Chris. Yes, I had people sending me responses privately, and I appreciate you doing that. But my main point is that if it doesn't have anything to do with the entire Ytsejam subscriber population, DON'T POST IT! If you're wondering why so many people are bitching about NDTC posts, (or if you are the one bitching) maybe you should look at your own posts and quit making snide comments about EVERY SINGLE POST EVERYONE ELSE MAKES. This ESPECIALLY goes for you 3 or 4 who like to post <user@domain.com> said: <whatever>, <your snide remark>, <anotheruser@anotherdomain.edu> said: <something else>, <another snide remark>, et cetera, ad nauseum. Just don't do it. Make up something original for once instead of replying to what someone else had to say. Or is that too hard for you all to do?
2. Chris Ptacek wrote (regarding the DT fan category debate): >Do you (or does anyone) really think it's that simple? I'm >curious. I mean I know it's helpful to be able to categorize, but I >think the interests on this list can't be pigeonholed into that >corner.
Well, of course not, Chris. Not all DT fans can be placed into two categories. That's not what I meant. I had hoped to make people realize that yes, people can talk about death metal and No Doubt just as easily because, and here's the zinger, DT fans cannot be lumped into ONE category (as some people may think). Why didn't you jump all over the other people who agreed with what Lars had to say? Or all over Lars himself? Is it because you like to pick on one person repeatedly?
>I think this would all be solved if people just respected each other more
Good point. Remember it, 'jammers.
>But as I said before... this has been attempted, and it doesn't stick...
Oh, no. Please don't try to be helpful or positive. Just shoot down EVERY attempt to make the Ytsejam a better place for all involved. (This is dripping with sarcasm, btw.)
>- Raving Bullshit Egotist I know. :)
Please send ANY comments WHATSOEVER to me personally, and DO NOT waste any more bandwidth on this stupid debate. Thank you.
-Nicole S./Kirby
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Net boy, net girl | Nicole Stachowicz Kirby/KirBee | | Send your heartbeat 'round the world | stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu | | Put your message in a modem | University of Houston-Downtown | | And throw it in the Cyber Sea |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | *** Rush "Virtuality" *** | Visualize Whirled Peas! | '~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'
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