YTSEJAM Digest 2587
Today's Topics:
1) YTSEJAM digest 2586
by <09422587@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
2) no relation to MC
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
3) 2112 is 21:12
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
4) Re: gone?
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
5) er, wozzup?
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
6) Re: Niacin/breaking glass
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
7) Re: kneebiter :)
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
8) voice range
by "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
9) Re: Reviews...
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
10) Re: Lyrics to ACOS
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
11) Notable singers
by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
12) Home Sweet Home
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
13) Essex VT Fairgrounds
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
14) Kevin Moore is just another Miles Davis
by "D. Ryan Whitaker" <David_Whitaker@BAYLOR.EDU>
15) All Hail Mike Bahr!!!
by MTeiper@aol.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2586
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
17) time almost over for KTS
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
18) Re: 2112 is 21:12
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
19) Re: Notable singers
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
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Date: Sat, 24 May 97 23:54:39 GMT+8
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Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2586
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 09:57:17 PDT
From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: no relation to MC
Message-ID: <199705241657.JAA10979@f32.hotmail.com>
Yo I'm the master rapper and I'm here to say
I love fruity pebbles in a major way
Yeah, Bedrock orange, purple, lemon, lime, and red,
but to get the fruity taste, I gotta trick Fred....
laters 'n stuff,
kevin (not MC) hammer
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 11:40:33 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 2112 is 21:12
Message-ID: <199705241840.LAA11945@goodnet.com>
I don't know about the album version, but the recording of 2112
used on Virtual Songs indeed lasts 21 minutes, 12 seconds. Remember that
Alex added some solo to the performance version. I think Rush may have
been well aware of what the slight modification would do to the song's
running time. :)
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 11:50:46 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: gone?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970524115003.007c5600@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 10:19 PM 5/23/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Child: Mommy.. Where do people go when they unsubscribe?
>
Chris Ptacek's really missing it. The jam is great lately!
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 14:54:51 -0500
From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: er, wozzup?
Message-ID: <3387478a5969002@hermes.services.ou.edu>
hey all,
I've been so busy and didn't catch about the last month of jams -- still
have 'em, just unread...
anything worth catching up on? (200 jams are a lot to page through!) And,
are They in studio yet?
I'm getting a mailing list! I still want to do the tribute! I *think* that
it will be tribute@skywalker.ecn.ou.edu... don't have it set up yet... the list
will have to be invitation only. Tuesday or sometime thereabout you can email
me at isis@skywalker.ecn.ou.edu if you want to be on the list. If you have
mailed me before, I have your name and eddress and EVERYTHING else (instrument,
song, location) if you sent it to me.
well, ta ta for now...
jazzmin
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:06:08 +0000
From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Niacin/breaking glass
Message-ID: <199705242003.PAA07396@Walden.MO.NET>
> All this talk about ELP reminded me about something. Has anybody heard of
>Billy Sheehan's new project? Don't remember the name, but it was
>him, a keyboardist, and a drummer...
It's called Niacin. At the Sheehan clinic recently, he talked about
how much he digs the Hammond organ, so he did this thing. All
instrumental, from what I know (haven't heard it all yet). You can
get more info and hear some sound files (.ra) at
http://www.billysheehan.com
Oh, and while we're on the thread about high-pitched singers, isn't
there something about a story where Bruce Dickinson broke some glass
at a show or something when he was in Samson?
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:08:08 +0000
From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: kneebiter :)
Message-ID: <199705242005.PAA07701@Walden.MO.NET>
> (Any Hitchhiker fans? :)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's so friggin' hilarious.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 22:12:34 +0200
From: "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: voice range
Message-ID: <9705242010.AA22119@nomina.lu.se>
Carlos asked:
>>does anyone know..which is the highest rock singer octave-wise?
I don't know about metal, but I've heard that Cher manages 8 octaves!
I doubt it though... Anybody know if it's true?
Song of the day: "It's A Beautiful Day" - Queen
Simon Mitternacht
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1233/
May the force be with you...
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 20:43:56 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Reviews...
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970524204104.7307A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Thu, 22 May 1997 caber1@concentric.net wrote:
> Megadeth(Peace Sells...But Who's Buying)-Hmm, I'll tell you up front I
> don't like this CD. I didn't like Mustaine's voice, nor did I like
> Poland's guitar work...The song Peace Sells...But Who's Buying is the
> best song on here and its not that great...I don't know maybe this will
> grow on me but don't hold your breathe...
Well, it is nice to know that I'm not the only one who doesn't
like this CD. In fact, I think this is one of the weakest CDs that I have.
And I don't like Rust in Peace also (with the exception of Holy Wars,
Hangar 18 and Five Magics). But Countdown to Extinction is good, IMO.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 20:55:52 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Lyrics to ACOS Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970524205357.7307B-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Fri, 23 May 1997, Bruce Miller wrote:
> I'm not sure if the FAQ is currently being updated, but I found > this poem from which some of the lyrics to ACOS are taken and wanted > to post it. It pretty much sums up much of the song. > > Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, > Old Time is still a-flying; > And this same flower that smiles today > Tomorrow will be dying. (...) > ---Robert Herrick (1591-1674)--- > I'm not sure of the title, but can check this weekend.
Well, this poem is called: "To the Virgins, to Make Much of Time". I have it on my homepage. The first part is in the movie: "Dead Poets' Society" and some samples were taken and put on ACOS. You may know this from the FAQ.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 21:11:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Notable singers Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970524210452.18135A-100000@comp>
Greetings Jammers,
I haven't picked through all the Jams cluttering my mailbox, but I've been seeing some stuff about singers worth mentioning...
Someone already mentioned Tesla... anyone that doesn't own at least 2 or 3 Tesla albums should do themselves a favor... Psychotic Supper and Bust a Nut are some great albums when you just want some good old fashioned rock-n-roll and Jeff Keith (sp?) has IMO a pretty good voice, even if it is a bit unorthodox.
Revived 80's band that I popped in the CD player while I'm reading my mail: Tyketto. Not one of the more famous 80's bands, but as far as glam rock goes it's good stuff... anyway, the vocalist has a pretty good voice. I could hear him fronting an Extreme or DT-ish type band...
Ugly Kid Joe: pulled this one out of the closet today too... man, these guys were pretty cool back in the day. Still pretty good stuff to pull out every now and then. Yet again another unique vocalist, and I think he could still be viable today. Whatever happened to these guys anyhow? Did the tragic demise of the 80's bands catch them too?
Hmm.. who else... I dunno, but sometimes pulling out the 80's stuff can be quite enjoyable. Next into the CD player will probably be Wrathchild America... these guys have their own style, and it's an interesting one. Really neat things going on rhythm wise (e.g. groove)... cool lyrics too.
DrX
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 00:32:17 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Home Sweet Home Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970524191451.20212A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
Well, I'm finally back in Burlington after a vacation that took much longer than I expected. During the YtseDrunkenFest a couple Saturdays ago (which was very poorly attended, btw), I felt a pain in my side which continually got worse as the night went on. By 2:00 that night, I was in the emergency room with unbearable pain. Kidney stones. Not fun at all. But I did get some *great* drugs (Demarol is even better than Dew!) and was fully recovered in about a week. Of course, by that point, my ride had already left to come back up here, so I was stuck in NY for another week while my mother was in Florida. And I had limited access over a 14.4 to the net. So, I'm damn behind on e-mail.
Well, anyway, huge thanks to all of you for writing and calling me during my downtime. It really did mean a lot to me to know that you guys had my back.
So, I'm back in Vermont now, slowly catching up on e-mail. Everyone that e-mailed me will hopefully get a reply. Everyone that I owe tapes and stuff to will be getting them soon, now that I'm back home and back to normal.
One neat little anecdote about my overextended vacation. As some of you know, I'm a volunteer firefighter when I'm home. The other night, we were called to an automatic fire alarm at someone's house. I wound up being in charge of the call, which meant (among other things) that I was the guy talking on the radio. Nassau County Radio Signal 21 means that a unit is en route to the scene, and Signal 12 means that the situation is under control, and that units should respond normally (as opposed to flying down the street, sirens a-blazin'). We received a signal 12 before we left the firehouse, so when we left, I got to say into the radio, "Unit 441 signal 21-12."
It's the little things in life that keep ya going.
Thanks again to everyone that checked in on me. I'm back, trying to get back to life as usual.
-d
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 01:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Essex VT Fairgrounds Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970525011422.20469O-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Adam Barnhart wrote:
> >From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> > > > >>Are all concerts as loud as metallica concerts? > > > >I almost hesitate to mention this given some of the 80's metal haters in > >here, but the loudest concert I ever saw was Winger. I saw them in Essex > >Jct., VT and the sound was so loud, it knocked over the first ten rows > >of folding chairs before the screaming teenies could get to them...
I hate to rehash an old thread like this, but I'm catching up on jams (yes, I'm going through all 600-odd posts) and saw this. Who was it that saw Winger at the Essex Fairgrounds? I've been up here two damned years and have never once heard of the fairgrounds being used for anything nearly as cool as rock music. (Private e-mail is ok, and will be read more quickly.)
Hmph.
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 00:23:31 +0000 From: "D. Ryan Whitaker" <David_Whitaker@BAYLOR.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Kevin Moore is just another Miles Davis Message-ID: <9705250522.AA00417@ccis01.baylor.edu>
I somehow got taken to www.cduniverse.com without even pressing the link on a page, but I figured what the heck and I searched for Dream Theater. I clicked on Awake, and they have all the tracks listed as well as RealAudio clips of a few of the tracks. I went to the bottom of the page and they had the names of the band.. so.. me being bored I clicked on all of them, and only one of them surprised me. Supposedly this is all that Kevin Moore has played on..
AWAKE : DREAM THEATER : Keyboards BEST OF : VA-NIGHTMARE RECORDS : Vocals BLUE WISP BIG BAND : BLUE WISP BIG BAND : Trumpet IMAGES & WORDS : DREAM THEATER : Keyboards ROCK FATHER CREACH : PAPA JOHN : Guitar (Acoustic) /Vocals/Guitar (Electric)/Guitar
I'm not too big a Kevin fan myself, but I thought that was kind of interesting. The only reason I don't (or didn't) worship him on the same level as the rest of the band is that he just seemed so distant from the band, and his stage presence sucked..
latah D. Ryan Whitaker - Baylor University - Computer Science http://www.baylor.edu/~David_Whitaker
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 01:35:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: All Hail Mike Bahr!!! Message-ID: <970525013540_910149961@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Hey friends -
Oh glorious day... "Precious Things" has finally arrived!!! Another stellar effort from Mr. Bahr (like he's ever produced anything less...) The last track, "Learning To Live", is listed as being taken from the original I&W demo sessions. I have the exact same recording on a couple of other boots that have it listed on each as being from James's vocal audition, one of three songs he did (the other 2 trax being "Take the Time" and acoustic "To Live Forever"). Can anyone confirm or deny this for sure???
Laterz.... Matt T.
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 01:04:51 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2586 Message-ID: <19970525051107.AAA13365@ernst-d>
>Mommy: Well sweetie... if they've been a good poster they go to a much >better place. A place of beautiful DTC and there's never any flamewars and >everyone lives in the continuos rapture of Labrie's soaring melodies; >Portnoy's unbelievable fills; Myung's lulling thudding consistancy; Moore >and Sherinian's dual keyboard rhythms and harmonized leads; and Petrucci's >mind-numbing mastery...
So basically, they go to DT concert.
>Well, everytime I've heard an extremely high note, I try to find it on the >ol' keyboard, and the highest i've heard is a Bb (either that or an Ab) by >both Tate at the end of 'London', and the guy from Crimson Glory in some >song on 'Transcendence'. And Andre Matos hits a pretty high one at the end
A little correction... I checked back, and Tate hit a high G (which the guy from Boston also hits on "More than a Feeling"). The guy from CG hits a high A (!) on Red Sharks. It sounds ridiculous, but he does it...
>"John Petrucci?" >"Yes." >"John *Peter* Petrucci?" >"Yes." >"You are kneebitter." >"Excuse me?" >"A complete and total kneebitter." > >(Any Hitchhiker fans? :)
Man, Ieft the whole trilogy in Germany, dammit! What was the insult he used for that guy right b4 he died? that was the best one :)
>Chicks who like to rock are cool. > >Steve Z
huh-huh,huh-huh. :)
Oh, and Jack... you are one truly open-minded bastard ;)
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 02:37:58 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: time almost over for KTS Message-ID: <19970524.234054.3390.2.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
ATTN: Bootleg collectors,
At the end of May KTS will be calling it quits; which means you have less than a week to get your order in. I've just received my last order from them earlier this week and if you order five titles or more they're only $12 per *disc*! Especially considering that even most new releases usually are on sale for $12 or more this is a pretty fucking good deal. If you need their address it's www.kts.it *not* .com like most websites. If you don't have www access then r\try emailing them at <mailme@kts.it>
Good luck!
Scott
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 05:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: 2112 is 21:12 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970525050034.20770B-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Sat, 24 May 1997, durnik wrote:
> I don't know about the album version, but the recording of 2112 > used on Virtual Songs indeed lasts 21 minutes, 12 seconds. Remember that > Alex added some solo to the performance version. I think Rush may have > been well aware of what the slight modification would do to the song's > running time. :)
Also, if I remember correctly, they started playing the song (at least in Albany) at 9:12 pm. :)
Good Ged, I'm almost caught up on jams!! I'm through all the unsubs and the rap thread, finally. :) There have been some *hilarious* posts lately! Keep it up everyone!
-d
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 05:06:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Notable singers Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970525050414.20770C-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Sat, 24 May 1997, Ed Reed wrote:
> Ugly Kid Joe: pulled this one out of the closet today too... > man, these guys were pretty cool back in the day. Still pretty good stuff > to pull out every now and then. Yet again another unique vocalist, and I > think he could still be viable today. Whatever happened to these guys > anyhow? Did the tragic demise of the 80's bands catch them too?
(Yup, I'm in a replying mood.) UKJ is still alive and kicking. Their latest is called "Motel California." I got to hear about three or four songs off it last week, and it's as good as their more famous stuff (from the EP and from America's Least Wanted). The one song title I remember: "Rage Against the Answering Machine." I'll be picking this one up next time I have money.
-d
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