YTSEJAM Digest 2600
Today's Topics:
1) America
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
2) 15 bucks for the Nitro cds? Gimmie a break.
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
3) Pearls of wisdom from James LaBrie
by <branden@apocalypse.sequitur.org>
4) Re: Pearls of wisdom from James LaBrie
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
5) BAD CD vendor.
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
6) Finally found a home...
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
7) met show
by vancer1@juno.com (Ryan M Vance)
8) web space
by vancer1@juno.com (Ryan M Vance)
9) videos
by "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
10) Manu Katche, Nathan East
by "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
11) Re: Rush Restrospective
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
12) Re: Finally found a home...
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
13) Re: America (a geography lesson)
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
14) The New Queensryche
by Perk1994@aol.com
15) Re: America (a geography lesson)
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
16) Re: Pearls of wisdom from James LaBrie
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
17) Alanis the Lyricist :) (NDTC)
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz aka Kirby 8>" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
18) Re: America (a geography lesson)
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
19) Dreams
by A <breuric@tpgi.com.au>
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 15:27:46 -0500
From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: America
Message-ID: <v01530500afb639e308ce@[207.79.6.163]>
>>and James could beat the shit out of him cuz he's not
>>American, and things could be way cool.
Is Canada not located in North America?
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 15:20:27 -0700
From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: Atarijam2600 <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 15 bucks for the Nitro cds? Gimmie a break.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970531222027.0068c04c@pop.pipeline.com>
Joe wants 15 smackers for those cds? Come on! They sell for .99
in cheap bins everywhere. I guess that 13 bucks profit, er...shipping
must be figured in. Anyway, I am hyped for tonight's game!!
GO WINGS!
Kevin
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:43:52 -0500 (EST)
From: <branden@apocalypse.sequitur.org>
To: Ytsejam list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Pearls of wisdom from James LaBrie
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970531142704.21422B-100000@apocalypse.sequitur.org>
People have talked about how awful a frontman Charlie Dominici was, but it
looks like James needs a little work, too. Check out these witticisms
from _Lost in the Sky_:
"Yeah, all right, Milan -- let me hear you. Yeah, well, it feels great
being back here. Last time we were here we got the same reception. This
one tonight's even better, thank you. All right, well, we're gonna move
on, all right? How many people out there know about the album 'Live at the
Marquee'? All right, well, this one's off 'Images and Words' and this one
is 'Under a Glass Moon'."
"Thank you very much. I gotta tell you people something, you people
definitely tonight here are one of the loudest crowds we've played in front
of over -- well, in here -- Europe. You understand that? 'Cause I didn't.
All right. We're gonna move on here, at this point I'd like to introduce
you to Mr. Kevin Moore on the keys."
"All right. Well, we've been in Europe now for about the last month
touring throughout and we've been playing this song, you might have heard
it on one of the many bootlegs over here, all right? We're gonna play it
for you tonight, all right? This one's called 'To Live Forever'."
"Yeah, all right. We're gonna go back to 1989, When Dream and Day in --
Unite. And a little further, even, after that. But check this one out,
all right? This is 'Only a Matter of Time'."
"Thank you very much, Milan. We'll see you in '94 with a new album, all
right? See you!"
"All right, Milan. Thanks a lot for coming out tonight, all right? You
made this one great. Thank you once again, people. We'll see you in '94,
all right? With a new album, we'll be back. Take care, see you. Come on,
let me hear you! Thank you."
I'll refrain from further comment, as I think these really speak for
themselves.
-- G. Branden Robinson Purdue University branden@purdue.edu http://cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/------------------------------
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:04:05 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Pearls of wisdom from James LaBrie Message-ID: <199705312004.NAA19499@odin.ax.com>
> "All right, Milan. Thanks a lot for coming out tonight, all right? You > made this one great. Thank you once again, people. We'll see you in '94, > all right? With a new album, we'll be back. Take care, see you. Come on, > let me hear you! Thank you." > > I'll refrain from further comment, as I think these really speak for > themselves.
Yeah, the all rights get kinda annoying, but I'm sure that's the way he talks in rl. People do that kind of stuff when they have to speak in front of large crowds. It's a natural nervous disorder. When ever I talk in front of large groups I use "you know?" at the end of all my comments, you know? I try to keep it under control. It's just tough. You just have to learn to be an actor. Either that or it's an extended version of the obsequious canuckian "Eh?" :)
"All right, thank you very much! Take Care!"
KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets ibanez@cyberghighway.net "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 13:24:10 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BAD CD vendor. Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970531132406.007c7ad0@postoffice.syspac.com>
Never purchase anything from a mail order company called THE RIGHT CHOICE. The company is based out of New York, advertises in metal mags and guitar mags, and says they've got a wide range of products. Well, first I ordered a package in August of last year. I got it in November, _three months later_, missing $58 worth of my order. This was replaced with a credit voucher. Their selection isn't as wide as it appears to be. So, in January I decided to use the $58 voucher and get some stuff. I sent out an order of over $90 on January 15th of this year. I GOT THE PACKAGE TODAY!! Yeah, it took over 4 months for them to ship me my stuff, and I didn't even get everything I ordered. This time they gave me a $16 credit voucher to cover the losses. I called them about a month ago, and the customer service person acted like the company had never heard of me. Oh yeah, they cashed my check in the beginning of February. On top of all that, on the order form there are certain prices for shipping and handling. I paid $8.50 in shipping and handling for this order. Counting up the stamps on the box they sent, I only see $2.30 worth of stamps on the side of the box. Since this wasn't sent express mail, I don't see any reason for them to have charged me $8.50. As far as the product quality goes, the shirts I ordered are professional and authentic. My package had 2 DT shirts, a Queensryche shirt, and an Anthrax video. The video has photocopied packaging and is a HIFI dub. Great quality, but not authentic. I'm sending them a letter of complaint and a bill for my lost $16 and my lost $6.20 shipping and handling, I'm reporting them to the Better Business Bureau, and I'm thinking of posting this e-mail in several music newsgroups and bulletin boards.
BOTTOM LINE: THE RIGHT CHOICE IS A RIP OFF!!!
Peace,
Vincent LuPone vgl@syspac.com obscuredude@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 16:30:51 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Finally found a home... Message-ID: <199705312031.AA29881@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hiya!
>(oh, btw, has anybody seen this wierd as shit German movie about this >boy who falls down stairs to prevent himself from growing up, and lives >his life as a midget who can break glass with his scream and >less-than-Porntoy drumming abilities?)
It's called The Tin Drum, by the way.
>I also got a NY awake show and was pleasantly suprised to see them play >'The Ones who help set the sun'. I could have sworn that DT played >Innocence Faded at the SF awake show. Can anyone confirm that?
If that's the Manhattan Center show, you weren't the only one that was surprised. I still can't get a hold of a copy of that particular show. No IF that I can recall.
>the jazz/npr station plays entire Miles Davis and Coltrane albums late >at night sometimes.
Ahhh... NPR, the only good station left on the radio. Except for those damned member drives...
>I got my new Megadeth today.
I hate the whole import thing. The Japanese get everything before we do, its not fair!
>So I take the CD out to check for CD debris, and there was none, no >scratches either, and proceed to the player itself.
My computer CD player does this sometimes, but there's nothing wrong with the discs. Play it in a regular CD player and see if there's a problem. Anyone going to the Giants Stadium Ozz Fest? Oh, and I got another new PC. No problems yet! -- _____________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com *************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 16:58:05 EDT From: vancer1@juno.com (Ryan M Vance) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: met show Message-ID: <19970531.140046.7255.6.vancer1@juno.com>
does anybody have a recording of the metallica show on may 20h at the key arena in seattle? if would really like to loacate one! -ryan vancer1@juno.com
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 16:58:06 EDT From: vancer1@juno.com (Ryan M Vance) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: web space Message-ID: <19970531.140046.7255.10.vancer1@juno.com>
how do you get free web space form geocities? how much are you allowed to use? i'd like to make a dt/metallica page but need to find some web space. -ryan vancer1@juno.com
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:50:46 +0200 From: "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: videos Message-ID: <9705312100.AA22483@nomina.lu.se>
Something cool happened today, while zapping through my music channels I saw almost nothing but good videos!
In less than an hour I saw all these videos (on three different channels, VH-1 Viva 2 and ONYX):
Animals "House Of The Rising Sun" Doors "Break On Through To The Other Side" Chili Peppers "Under The Bridge" LedZep "Stairway To Heaven" Eagles "Hotel California" Chili Peppers "My Friends" And a real early Stones song (don't remember the name)
There were also a few other not so bad videos that I can't remember.
Song of the day: "Disposable Heroes" - Metallica
Simon Mitternacht
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1233/
May the force be with you...
Hiroshima -45 Tjernobyl -86 Windows -95 ;)
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:00:32 +0200 From: "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Manu Katche, Nathan East Message-ID: <9705312100.AA22486@nomina.lu.se>
Hi there
One of my favorite albums is Satriani's self-titled album, but not because of the guitars but because of Manu Katche's unbelievable drumming (Of course Joe's great too). He is now one of my absolute fav drummers and I wonder if there is more recorded material with him (there has to be).
Nathan East plays the bass on most of the songs on that record and I kinda like him too. I think I've seen him in the latest Phil Collins video (can't remember the name) and playing with Eric Clapton on a TV concert. Is he just a session bassist or does he come from some famous band that I should know of?
Song of the day: "Little Wing" - you know who
Simon Mitternacht
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1233/
May the force be with you...
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:46:12 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rush Restrospective Message-ID: <19970531.145012.11910.0.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>Is number 2 out yet? if so..which songs are on it? thanx
I think round two of the Rush remasters are out this Tuesday. Which will include MP, Signals, GUP, PW and HYF. Plus the 80's retro will also be out too. Then in July the Live CD's will be reissued with ATWAS and ESL with the missing songs put back in.
Buyer beware! I would imagine that MP will be released at a frontline retail ($15.99-$17.99) like 2112 was.
Scott ******************************************************************************************* Mary had a little lamb she kept in her backyard and when she took her panties off his wooly DICK got hard. - Dice ******************************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:59:47 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Finally found a home... Message-ID: <19970531.150312.11910.2.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>>I got my new Megadeth today. > >I hate the whole import thing. The Japanese get everything before we >do, its not fair!
The fair's once a year and costs about $6 to get in ;-)
Seriously though, this is done because they have a hard time getting Japanese to buy domestic CD's because they can get imports for less than their own locally manufactured cd;s. So to try and get them to buy domestic product they offer bonus tracks. This isn't always the case, but a lot of the time it is.
Professor Cook
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:59:46 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: America (a geography lesson) Message-ID: <19970531.150312.11910.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Sat, 31 May 1997 12:24:15 -0700 (PDT) strategy@45150.com writes:
>>>and James could beat the shit out of him cuz he's not >>>American, and things could be way cool. > >Is Canada not located in North America?
Canada *is* located in North America, *but* North America is a continent, not a country. The United States of America *is* a country and so is Canada.
Professor Cook
****************************************************************************************** Mary had a little lamb she kept in her backyard and when she took her panties off his wooly DICK got hard. - Dice ******************************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:18:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Perk1994@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The New Queensryche Message-ID: <970531181839_238303332@emout11.mail.aol.com>
Hi all, I know this is NDTC, but I just got the new Queensryche, but for some odd reason, the CD was recorded under the name Conception and the CD is entitled "Flow". Actually, I know they are not QR, but the new Conception CD (which I got from the best mail order company in the business, Dream Disc) is just what I wanted the new QR to sound like. It's a cross between all of the QR albums from "Rage for Order" to "Promised Land." It's uncanny how much they sound like Queensryche. I also got CDs from Stratovarius and Elegy. Anyone into Dream Theater should get "Visions" and "Surpremacy." I also got a CD from another good prog-metal band, Tad Morose. Seems like the prog-metal community is flourishing right now! Can't get any better than that.
Now for DT content: Any new word on the possibility of DT opening for Queensryche? I'm going to the Jones Beach show and would love to see DT play a bigger venue than Manhattan Center, Limelight or Malibu (where I've seen them).
Take care, Adam Perkowsky
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:58:50 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: America (a geography lesson) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970531195416.13231A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Sat, 31 May 1997, Scott Cook wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 1997 12:24:15 -0700 (PDT) strategy@45150.com writes: > > >>>and James could beat the shit out of him cuz he's not > >>>American, and things could be way cool. > > > >Is Canada not located in North America? > > Canada *is* located in North America, *but* North America is a > continent, not a country. The United States of America *is* a country > and so is Canada.
And where does the "country" have any relation with his question? The other person is that used the old convention (but not right, but who cares) of calling the people from the United States as "American". But strictly speaking, we have:
- American: anyone that lives in the American continent (be it North America, Central Americal or South America);
- North America is part of a continent. Not a continent itself.
> Professor Cook
Professor Brito... :-)
(Just kiddin')
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 20:04:42 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Pearls of wisdom from James LaBrie Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970531200159.319A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Sat, 31 May 1997 branden@apocalypse.sequitur.org wrote:
> People have talked about how awful a frontman Charlie Dominici was, but it > looks like James needs a little work, too. Check out these witticisms > from _Lost in the Sky_: > > "Thank you very much. I gotta tell you people something, you people > definitely tonight here are one of the loudest crowds we've played in front > of over -- well, in here -- Europe. You understand that? 'Cause I didn't.
(That one's my favorite. :) Yeah, James was apparently pretty bad as a frontman back then. But I think that time has taught him well. Maybe it's just me, but he seemed a lot more comfortable at the HftH and Fix shows than what I've heard on earlier boots.
Then again, it ain't that big a deal to me.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:24:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz aka Kirby 8>" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Alanis the Lyricist :) (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970531192254.1327A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>
We interrupt your regularly scheduled Ytsejam for a bit of NDTC! ;)
WhiteWolf wrote: >Nitro wrote & played all their own songs, all Mariah does is sing >someone else's songs written for her...as do most female artists. (Madonna, >Alanis, Shania)
I hate to pick on just one thread (as usual) but no, no, no! ;) On the inside cover of Alanis Morissette's liner notes, it reads, and I quote, "All music composed by Alanis Morissette and Glen Ballard. All lyrics by Alanis Morissette." Also, in the thank you's, she describes Ballard as her "spiritual brother," so I don't suppose he's just some guy churning out music for a lot of female artists. Also, he's not _just_ a songwriter -- he produced the album.
Just thought I'd add my $0.02. :) If I'm incorrect about any of this, though, please don't flame me too hard. :)
The Digital Man wrote: >If a tree falls in the forest, and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
No. :)
And now back to your regularly scheduled Ytsejam!
-Nicole S./Kirby
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Net boy, net girl | Nicole Stachowicz Kirby/KirBee | | Send your heartbeat 'round the world | stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu | | Put your message in a modem | University of Houston-Downtown | | And throw it in the Cyber Sea |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | *** Rush "Virtuality" *** | Visualize Whirled Peas! | '~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:50:25 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: America (a geography lesson) Message-ID: <199706010051.RAA07741@odin.ax.com>
> > >Is Canada not located in North America? > > > > Canada *is* located in North America, *but* North America is a > > continent, not a country. The United States of America *is* a country > > and so is Canada. > > And where does the "country" have any relation with his question? > The other person is that used the old convention (but not right, but who > cares) of calling the people from the United States as "American". But > strictly speaking, we have:
Brief recap. Geoff is from the USA. James is from Canada. Geoff sings said (indirectly refering to the US) national anthem in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA before said softball game. James is NOT (how specific do I need to fucking be?) a United States of American, so he beats the shit out of Geoff.
The post was a joke and not to accepted in literal context, but obviously some people don't know shit from fecies. KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets ibanez@cyberghighway.net "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 11:18:25 +1000 (EST) From: A <breuric@tpgi.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dreams Message-ID: <199706010118.LAA00582@random.tpgi.com.au>
speaking of dreams I once had this really vividdream, in which i walked in to bedroom, put on a Warrior Soul CD, sat down or lay down on my bed and listened to the entire thing..
Weird eh.
Zajk. breuric@tpgi.com.au
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