YTSEJAM Digest 2598
Today's Topics:
1) vocal ranges
by "Dalamar" <Dalamar@bee.net>
2) Eternity-X
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
3) YTSEJAM digest 2597
by <09422587@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
4) The Absence of Light
by Paul Goracke <pgor@netcom.com>
5) Re: PT/DOW
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
6) Re: Deliverance
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
7) Spots on movie screens - NDTC :)
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz aka Kirby 8>" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
8) Pearl jam dream
by "Mr. B" <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
9) Shooting Star
by TTubbiola@aol.com
10) Re: New Enchant CD
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
11) Let's trade!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
12) Bahr's delectibles, Epitaph, and other assortments.
by "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com>
13) To Pat D. concerning PT and TDoW
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
14) Marquee
by "Pirra" <pirra@mbox.vol.it>
15) Re: Pearl jam dream
by alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu>
16) movie spots (NDTC)
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
17) Michael Romeo & Mountain in BLACK & WHITE -ndtc
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:22:31 -0400
From: "Dalamar" <Dalamar@bee.net>
To: "YtseJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: vocal ranges
Message-ID: <19970530161823863.AAA342@dalamar>
This is really late for this thread (I haven't been reading Jams in a
while). On the subject of vocal ranges, someone had said there is someone
with a 6 octave vocal range. As nice as it may sound, it's impossible.
Back in the days when classical music was Pop music there were singers
called Castratos (castrated as young boys) they don't exist know because it
is illegal, but anyway, they possed the greatest vocal ranges every and
they consisted around 4 - 4 1/2 octaves in range. Now when I saw range I
mean "singable" range (meaning they can sing all the notes in those octaves
clearly "not falsetto") I can, for example, sing and F and octave and a
half above what I consider my singable range but that doesn't mean my vocal
range has increased an octave and a half. Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.
Take care
Mallet Man
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:46:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Eternity-X
Message-ID: <199705301646.MAA22262@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
Someone mentioned Eternity-X a while back and gave a URL
for their page. I was interested and they gave a sampler
cassette to anyone who filled out a survey. I got the
sampler last night, about a wek after filling the survey out.
ATTENTION: The following is my humble opinion (aka my HO)
I don't see how this band can be considered prog. From what
I heard on the sampler, they use keys, but most of their
stuff is very ordinary hard rock/heavy metal stuff. They're
a decent band, but not as good as I expected (or wanted)....
Anyway, that is that about Eternity-X. I commend them for
their joy of music and appreciating those who feel the same,
but it doesn't make their music more enjoyable (to me)...
-Al
p.s. - Anyone know any coolplaces to go in Miami??? Please
E-mail me privatly to let me know,............
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 10:12:37 -0700 From: Paul Goracke <pgor@netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> Subject: The Absence of Light Message-ID: <l03102801afb4b416c463@[128.95.235.96]>
Special Agent Bafu stated:
> What I have just proven is that black is not the absence of light, but in > fact the absence of DARKNESS.
Black is the absence of light (or color) *as observed by your eye*. Color does not exist in the world as an intrinsic property--it exists solely in your brain to differentiate among the sensory inputs we obtain.
Electromagnetic waves have frequency and amplitude as their properties. We can only perceive through vision a limited range of those frequencies, which we so conveniently call the visible light spectrum.
Additive color: that produced by direct light. Examples: computer monitor, slide projector (it reflects off light, which reflects all colors in the spectrum, see "subtractive color" below). All ranges of color can be produced by combining lights of "Red", "Green" and "Blue" frequencies. Hence RGB monitors.
Subtractive color: that produced by reflected light. The reflective object absorbs some of the frequencies in the line being shone, and reflects the frequencies that the eye perceives as its "color". A black object absorbs all the visible range of frequencies (which explains why black gets hot in the sun) and a white object reflects all the frequencies (giving it the appearance of any color shone, as in a projector screen). Theoretically, all subtractive colors can be made by appropriate mixing of cyan (not quite "blue"), magenta (closer to "pink" than "red"), and yellow. Due to impurities in inks, combining them comes out a muddy brown, so black is used to make it truly black. Hence the 4-color (CMYK) printing process.
Black rocks do not need to contain every other pigmentation, they just need to absorb the proper electromagnetic frequencies. Our dying, painting and 4-color press is only a human method to imitate those colors seen in nature (well, that ugly "kiwi" color that crept into clothing design is an aberration). It so happens that we can do it w/ some simple rules of color mixing, which does not imply that the rest of Nature must do it that way.
"If a tree falls in the forest, and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?"
No.
It makes disturbances in the air. But unless there is an ear to covert those waves into the signals that our brain perceives as "sound", there is no sound.
> Speaking of spots on screens, am I the only person who can see the yellow > and black reel-change spot in the upper righthand corner of the movie > screen? There's an eight-seconds-until-we-change-the-reel spot and > one-second spot. Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Please?
Never noticed them. I usually try to pay attention to the film. :^)
pg
--------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Goracke | "To do is to be" - Aristotle pgor@netcom.com | "To be is to do" - Plato | "Do be do be do" - Sinatra ---------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:49:56 +0000 From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: PT/DOW Message-ID: <199705301749.MAA11758@Walden.MO.NET>
> huh? I am 89 for PT and 72 for TDOW and I haven't gotten my cds. What Hey, I'm 34 for PT and 45 for DOW. I got PT a while back (and it ROCKS!!!), but haven't gotten DOW yet. I'm not concerned, though. As long as it gets here, I'm happy :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:56:53 +0000 From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Deliverance Message-ID: <199705301756.MAA12909@Walden.MO.NET>
> Is this the Deliverance with Jimmy P Brown II and christian lyrics ??? or >some other band named Deliverance?? >*curious* Nah, we're talking about that movie where those guys meet the rednecks... . Okay, that was pretty pitiful :). Yeah, at least I was talking about Deliverance with Jimmy Brown (also a rather large guitarist :). I've kinda dug them since their first album, with Learn being their high point for me, and River Disturbance coming in close after that. I've seen them a few times live, the first time with Saviour Machine, each time kickin' some large tail :). For those who might be curious, they recently broke up.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 13:02:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz aka Kirby 8>" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spots on movie screens - NDTC :) Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970530130121.109351A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>
Warning: NDTC. Skip if ya don't care!
Steve Borzilleri wrote: >Speaking of spots on screens, am I the only person who can see the yellow >and black reel-change spot in the upper righthand corner of the movie >screen? There's an eight-seconds-until-we-change-the-reel spot and >one-second spot. Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Please?
But then Scott Cook wrote: >Yes I have, that's supposed to let the projectionist know to change the >reels. But when you have a multi-plex theater and one person running >all the cameras sometimes they don't always work :)
Aha! Something I can finally answer! In my limited job experience, I was once a projectionist for a dollar movie company in Houston, Tx., so I know what I'm talking about. :) Those spots appear twice: once about 15 seconds before a reel is about to end, then about 3 seconds before it's about to end.
Back in the old days (before everything was automated) a projectionist would sit in the booth and watch for that spot. There would be 2 projectors: one would show the current reel (what the audience was watching), and the other one would have the next reel loaded. When he saw the first spot (they used to be all men), he would start the second projector. The second spot signaled when to switch over projectors and show the next reel.
These days, the projectionist puts all of the reels together on one big reel (called a platter), so the spots are obsolete. :) If the projectionist screws up, it's usually because the film wasn't put together correctly. One other thing -- if you watch videos of more recent movies closely, you won't see the spots because, of course, they are not needed for video.
Hope this clears things up. :)
-Nicole S./Kirby
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 14:51:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mr. B" <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Pearl jam dream Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970530144727.6340A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hey guys-
Man, I had this really cool dream that I went to a Pearl Jam concert. And for the encore, they played "wait for sleep." The cool thing was that they did an awesome version of it and that Eddie Vedder sounded like Labrie. Really weird.
Brandon
Current Top 5 CDs:
Jim Brickman - picture this Fates Warning - a pleasant shade of gray Steve Morse Band - structural damage William Ackerman - conferring with the moon Steve Vai - alien love secrets
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 15:06:50 -0400 (EDT) From: TTubbiola@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Shooting Star Message-ID: <970530150623_-1932472279@emout10.mail.aol.com>
Hi all, Does anybody remember this band? They were a lot like kansas. I'm trying to find their first three releases on CD. Anyone have any ideas on where I could look? Please E-mail me directly so we don't clutter up the Jam.
Thanks, Tom
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 16:54:16 GMT From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg) Subject: Re: New Enchant CD Message-ID: <ub910wvr2f.fsf@fusebox.hanse.de>
Graham> Does anyone out there (German jammers, perhaps) know Graham> anything about the new Enchant release 'Time Lost' ? Is it Graham> a German only thing like 'Wounded' was last year ?
Hmmm...I am not sure about this. I know when Enchant was here in Hamburg opening for Threshold they had the new CD for sale and they mentioned that it just came out in the stores here in Germany. You should perhaps e-mail Magna Carta and see what the deal is for the US *shrug*. I still have to borrow "Time Lost" from my friend, I haven't heard it yet.
Jason -- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 16:32:59 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Let's trade! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970530163110.8653A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
Hi, Several people have been asking me if I had something to trade. And to speed things up, here is my list of Metallica bootlegs. Currently, I'm very interested in anything by Metallica and Dream Theater, and now I *HAVE* some bootlegs by Dream Theater, but only a few. So, if you'd like to help a newbie... :-) Now, I'm really interested in getting the following videos: - Japan Pay Per View from the "Awake Tour" (Dream Theater); - Woodstock II video (Metallica); - Donnington'95 (Metallica); - London, Astoria'95 (Metallica). If you have these videos, and you can dub in HiFi, I'll be very happy to trade with you (unfortunately, I can only trade videos in NTSC and PAL-M video systems; sorry, no SECAM or PAL). More information can be seen at my bootleg home page (now it is updated), where this list cames from (information such as videos, trading rules, setlists and other details) or by sending an e-mail to rbrito@ime.usp.br. The URL is: <http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html>.
Please, read the rules.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Title Place Date Len. Src.
DREAM THEATER
Uncovered London '95 120' CD Guitar Talkin' (Acoustic & New Songs) various '91-'95 75' CD Wake Up Japan '95 130' 1st gen Another Uncovered Germany '95 80' ??? gen When Dream and Today Unite various ??? 80' CD Fix for '96 Toad's Place'96 135' ??? gen
MEGADETH
Megadeth Live USA '92 35' 1st gen Punishment is Due ??? '93 77' CD
METALLICA
Live Shit: Binge & Purge Mexico City '93 180' CD Donnington'95 Donnington '95 56' CD Covering'em I compilation --- 73' CD Covering'em II compilation --- 75' 1st gen Metallica - Halloween compilation '82-'92 68' CD Garage Days Re-Revisited + B-sides & Demos studio '87-'91 72' CD Creeping Death EP + Jump in the Fire EP studio '84 30' CD Kill'em All + Am I Evil? + Blitzkrieg studio '83 62' CD No Life Till Leather studio '82 30' CD Apocalyptica: plays Metallica by four Cellos studio '9x 40' CD Metal Milita I studio '96 xx' CD The Lemmys (better than "We are the Lemmys") Los Angeles '95 73' CD Rough Justice (Justice Demos) studio '88 60' CD Live Shit Load ??? '96 75' 1st gen ..And Justice for Woodstock New York '94 75' 2nd gen Secret Demos studio '84-'88 50' 1st gen London, Astoria'95 London '95 140' ??? gen Sweden'87 Sweden '87 80' 2nd gen - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hope to hear from you soon, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 15:52:58 -0400 From: "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bahr's delectibles, Epitaph, and other assortments. Message-ID: <199705301958.PAA07568@brickbat8.mindspring.com>
a few things to pass along to the ytsecrew:
1: Received #99 of Darkest Of Winters and Precious Things. Very good material, and an essesntial part of the Dream Theater discography (although i do wanna know where they got Wait For Sleep from...). Mike Bahr has (once again) outdone himself. I don't know if he can top this, but if he does i won't be suprised. Maybe he'll take us next on a virtual tour...
2: For the Crimson fans, I receieved all 4 volumes of Epitaph - the live 1969 concert series from Fripp and Company. If you haven't gotten this, i advise you do so. now. it's -that- good. Sure, the quality isn't that great (hell, it -is- form 1969) but if you're into the _In The Court Of The Crimson King_ lineup as much as i am, you're in for a treat.
3: I'm selling the following Rush bootlegs. If interested, please respond via e-mail only:
1: Rush - Live In Toroto 1986 2: Rush - Rush Hour (From Presto/Roll The Bones tours)
highest bidder gets it, and the bidding starts at $30.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com erotomania! = http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx offical lemur voice hompage: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/lemur.htm
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 15:04:51 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: To Pat D. concerning PT and TDoW Message-ID: <338F32E3.9D3@auburn.net>
> Notorious wrote: > >Hey everyone! I got a shiny happy package in the mail from the honorable > >Mike Bahr yesterday. My Precious Things disc was #143, my Darkest of > >Winters was #141, and my Wrath of God (after MUCH ado) was unnumbered. > >So to everyone that wasn't right there in the top few discs ... our > >numbers are coming up! > > huh? I am 89 for PT and 72 for TDOW and I haven't gotten my cds. What > order does Mike send cds out in? Does he just go in random order? If this > is the case there is really no point to paying up early except to make > sure you get a copy. So Mike can you explain your sending out methods?????
I think it's because of Wrath of God. I've been waiting a while for it, at least since December. There were problems with shipping, and although he never told me one way or another, I think Mike had to dip into his own pocket to get it to me. Therefore I think he decided to send everything I had ordered at once rather than in separate packages.
Oh yeah - Learning to Live is worth the wait, believe me!
Here's hoping no one gets the wrong idea about Prism's shipping policies, Mark Peters swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 22:25:11 +0000 From: "Pirra" <pirra@mbox.vol.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Marquee Message-ID: <199705302026.NAA27801@odin.ax.com>
Hi All!! Do you know what's the difference between the European version of "Live at the Marquee" and the Japanese version ?? Has the japanese edition a bonus track ?? (I think it's "Another day" if I'm right..) Please mail me to make me know!!!!!!
Bye STEo BlackholesarewhereGodisdividingbyzero.
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 15:43:56 -0500 (CDT) From: alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Pearl jam dream Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970530153954.23537A-100000@lars.acc.stolaf.edu>
On Fri, 30 May 1997, Mr. B wrote: > Hey guys- > Man, I had this really cool dream that I went to a Pearl Jam concert. And > for the encore, they played "wait for sleep." The cool thing was that they > did an awesome version of it and that Eddie Vedder sounded like Labrie. > Really weird. > Brandon
i *did* see pearl jam last fall, and they *did* close with Wait for Sleep... it was really cool, stone and jeff played it on guitar, and eddie sang through this distortion mic that made him sound jsut like james... i was about 3 rows away, but i think i could see that guy from blues traveler in the background behind a curtain doing all of the actual singing...
hehehe...
and bafu, those little spots hide little video cameras that are put there by the FBI specifically to watch you. they heard that you were instrumental in the rise to fame of some spicy band or something, and were therefore extremely dangerous...
full of shit as always, id
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:39:58 -0400 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: movie spots (NDTC) Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970530183955.0068bff8@ici.net>
>Speaking of spots on screens, am I the only person who can see the yellow >and black reel-change spot in the upper righthand corner of the movie >screen? There's an eight-seconds-until-we-change-the-reel spot and >one-second spot. Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Please?
One of the guys I work with used to manage a movie theater in his younger days, and it was he that first pointed that reel-change spot to me. I kind of wish he hadn't, because now I almost can't *help* seeing it in every movie. :)
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 17:32:45 -0500 From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Michael Romeo & Mountain in BLACK & WHITE -ndtc Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/0003CFF0@msb01itscge.gecits.ge.com>
Quoth 2596... The question I have for other people is, is Michael Romeo the Big Hefty looking guy on the band picture??? I'm just wondering because usually the guitar hero's are lanky and skinny looking...
Reply... Anyone out there remember the bulk of "Mountain" guitarist, Leslie West??
Quoth 2596... By the way, for those who haven't heard Michael Romeo's playing, THE MAN SHREDS!!!!!! He is up there with the best of them that's for sure!!!!!!!!!!
Reply...I heartily agree
Quoth 2597... Actually, black is the combination of every other color...
Reply... From a physics point of view WHITE is the combination of every other color (think of a prism of diffraction grating). BLACK is the ABSENCE of all color.
-Randall
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