YTSEJAM Digest 3294
Today's Topics:
1) 'nother apology....
by Loren Caler <lcaler@flash.net>
2) DT Concert listing???
by VAIMAN <vaiman@mindspring.com>
3) Atlanta show...paul..
by VAIMAN <vaiman@mindspring.com>
4) On the subject of Drummers....
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
5) Goosebumps on the Fire
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
6) Toad's show recording.
by Jeremy Kube <jkube@cyberportal.net>
7) Roy Haynes
by Chad Mitchell <kerensky@telepath.com>
8) Metallica rebuttle
by Jeremy Kube <jkube@cyberportal.net>
9) Re: Roy Haynes
by Einstein H Zappa <afn39111@afn.org>
10) Hell's Kitchen
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@Walden.MO.NET>
11) Atlanta show is ALL-AGES
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
12) Re: BP does BS
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
13) funny chapman
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
14) JAMMIN' WITH BIG WRECK WINNERS!!!
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
15) (no subject)
by Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au>
16) Drummer that rule
by David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
17) Re: Nuno Bettencourt's solo
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
18) Good morning
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
19) Deleated Mail on november 25th, from about 16:00 CET till november , 26th about 14:00 CET.
by Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch>
20) I'm off to sea, mates...
by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
21) Acupplafings
by "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:56:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Loren Caler <lcaler@flash.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 'nother apology....
Message-ID: <199711260156.TAA23137@endeavor.flash.net>
Sorry to the dude I bawled out again about selling 'CD's' when they
really were 'LP's'. I think I'll look into pricing out some glasses :).
and........
>> Hmmm this is hard but here are some of MY faves:
>>
>> The fill by MP in PMU. Too cool (Its the 32'nd notes one in the middle)
> When exactly is this?? Could you please post the exact time?
>
> Thank you very much, Roger...
The fill that I'm talking about actually starts with the eight notes @ 6:30
and the 32'nd notes go on until 6:35.
-Loren
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:24:22 -0500
From: VAIMAN <vaiman@mindspring.com>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Concert listing???
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971126022422.006da514@pop.mindspring.com>
Where was the DT concert listing again for all the DT
shows??
thx
todd s
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:24:18 -0500
From: VAIMAN <vaiman@mindspring.com>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Atlanta show...paul..
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971126022418.006dd9f4@pop.mindspring.com>
Hey,
Paul. You can count me in on the Ytsejam PARTY!!
see ya
todd s
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:38:49 -0800
From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: On the subject of Drummers....
Message-ID: <347B8BB9.497D@pacbell.net>
Here's a drummer that is spoken highly of by other professional
drummers:
Steve Smith...of Journey, The Storm, and various jazz, rock fusion
projects. He is an amazing drummer, quiet but awesome. I had the
distinct pleasure of assisting him unload his equipment (which he drove
himself) for a drum clinic. I also got a once in a lifetime thrill of
watching this man warm up before the clinic's doors were opened. He
does not get enough credit where credit is due!
So add Mr.Smith to the list!
-- Hearts away.......Coldfire coldfire@pacbell.net ICQ: 4656934
"And all this could be just a dream so it seems, I was never much good at good-bye."
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:41:00 -0800 From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Goosebumps on the Fire Message-ID: <347B8C3C.4D38@pacbell.net>
Okay here's my DT goosebumps:
ALL of Hells Kitchen! That song takes me through the full range of emotions! It has to be both the happiest and saddest song I have ever heard. While listening to it I have found myself laughing through my tears! It is a brilliant piece! BRAVO!!!!! -- Hearts away.......
Coldfire coldfire@pacbell.net ICQ: 4656934
"And all this could be just a dream so it seems, I was never much good at good-bye."
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:58:21 -0500 From: Jeremy Kube <jkube@cyberportal.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Toad's show recording. Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971125215821.007c48a0@cyberport.cyberportal.net>
BTW: did Toads Place videotape the New Haven Show?
Yes, they did. Now the big question!! Where can I get it???????????? : ) Later, J
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:18:28 -0600 (CST) From: Chad Mitchell <kerensky@telepath.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Roy Haynes Message-ID: <199711260318.VAA03832@telepath.com>
>From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Roy Haynes >David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com wrote; > >>When did Roy Haynes play with Chick Corea, I know Gary Novak took over >>from Dave Weckl, but I've not heard of this other guy. > >The show I saw is Remembering Bud Powell at the Masonic Auditorium in San >Francisco, March 21, 1997. It's like Chick Corea played tribute to Bud >Powell. > >He was awesome!
OK, for clarification - Roy Haynes is a longtime Jazz drummer. He played with the great John Coltrane in the early and mid 60's, while Chick Corea was still learning to play 12 bar blues in high school. Since then, Roy has recorded at least 10 albums (and perhaps twice that) as a bandleader, not to mention playing on scores of other peoples projects. You just about cannot name anyone in Jazz that Roy hasn't worked with. His playing is tight, tasteful, and masterful.
BTW, Chick has released an album called "Remembering Bud Powell", and it is truly fabulous. If you like Jazz, get it. :)
And now, back to your regularly scheduled DT content :) Chad Mitchell Owner/GM - Oklahoma Outlaws
"Doctors get to bury their mistakes, Architects can only advise their client to plant vines." -Frank Lloyd Wright
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:15:56 -0500 From: Jeremy Kube <jkube@cyberportal.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metallica rebuttle Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971125221556.007c6680@cyberport.cyberportal.net>
Jeremy K. chucked this up: >This album is a >return to the feel of The Black Album. I really like almost every track >off of this album..for once since The Black Album, I will recommend this to >someone to purchase.
You say this like this is a good thing. Most Metallica fans from the first four albums DON'T like TBA. A return to the feel of that album is still a disappointment. Sorry.
Yes, it is. I will say that I was disappointed with TBA, BUT, It grew on me because it was Metallica! When LOAD came out I almost cried!! Here I was waiting like 4 years for them to put out a great album and I got shit!! But, I am happy to see that reLOAD is regressing (so to speak) and they went back to the heavy stuff. I like this album, it shows musical maturity in the sense that they were not afraid to branch out a little bit, but still stuck in a feel of the past (THE HEAVY SHIT-YEAH!) Maybe we will see more of this in the future. I would be happy as long as it isn't like LOAD. reLOAD suits me, in fact it impresses me. I like almost every song on the album. I own LOAD but it collects dust. Later, J
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:47:29 -0500 (EST) From: Einstein H Zappa <afn39111@afn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Roy Haynes Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.971125224609.74363A-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
Roy can be heard on the Chick Corea and Friends album, _Remembering Bud Powell,_ and he is quite solid. The whole album is a treat, as well.
There has only been one thing in my life worth living for, So it would take a true genius to fuck it up. Call me Einstein Hawkings Tolkien Heraclitus Darwin PKD Zappa. (http://www.afn.org/~afn39111)
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:41:52 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@Walden.MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hell's Kitchen Message-ID: <199711260444.WAA18825@Walden.MO.NET>
Oh yeah, this is a bit late, but I wanted to thank you all for the discussion a while back about Hell's Kitchen and where it is located. I was at a trivia contest last Saturday, and that question came up. Of course, our team got it right :). If it wouldn't have been for you all, we would've just been throwing blind guesses around :).
Dale R. Newberry
"Do not give me any of that Zen and some art of motorcycle maintenance stuff. Just ride your bike."
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Atlanta show is ALL-AGES Message-ID: <199711260543.AA10749@crl.crl.com>
Talked to a guy at the Masquerade tonight who seemed to know his business (for a wonder :)). The show will be all-ages, tickets are $16/advance and $18 at the door "if any are left" (I like the way he said that), and will be available starting later this week at the Masquerade box office (50 cent surcharge) and via Ticketmaster Southeast. He had only heard about the show on Monday, so of course WE knew about it beforehand right here. :) :)
Alas, no firm info yet regarding the Fates Warning show. I'll try again tomorrow; seems their nighttime bar-help hasn't a clue. :)
http://www.crl.com/~vanyel/ytses.html
-- +-- ...once the cloud that's raining ---+- Paul W. Cashman ---+ | over your head / disappears | vanyel@crl.com | | the noise that you hear | www.crl.com/~vanyel | +--is the crashing down of Hollow Years.... --+---- ICQ #4151223 -----+
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 00:38:53 -0500 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: BP does BS Message-ID: <19971125195104.AAA15918@sni.pananet.com>
> Wow, I guess he's pretty good at making things up to talk about. Like JM playing > the Stick on ToT (when he doesn't)
Although it hasnt been said officially, it seems to me that in the intro and outro to ToT there's some stick...at least it sounds like it.
and FII ending with a Myung solo (when it > doesn't)! So, I ask you, who's the foolish one again?
Well, there *is* a solo, but incredibely short, at the end of ToT when Labrie holds the 'HEEEAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN'. Its arguable wheter its a solo or not ( a long fill? ), but it can be considered a solo.
>not necessarily. i can listen to charlie haden slowly and methodically >pick out beautiful, perfectly chosen notes in a wonderfully slow and >tasteful bassline, and i can hear michael anthony bore the listening >with his aimless sixteenth note playing. the first is much slower, but
Well, obviously there are exceotions...but I meant 16th notes in which every note is a different one, note like ANthony who holds down the same note. (I'm thinking from a guitarist point of view here too...its hard for the bass to really distract attention because of the low frequencies. While guitar, keys, and vox are all fighting it out.
Ern
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 01:32:44 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: funny chapman Message-ID: <01IQG4SXAH0I000S50@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
>Those of you who wnat to hear stuff with a Chapman Stick on it: try
oh yeah, I was watching Comedy Central tonight and they had stand-up, instead of the same monty python movie shown 5 times in succesion, for a change, and you know who was on? Jonathan Katz, of the cartoon. He's a funny guy? And you know what?
I think he was playing a chapman stick! anyway, it looked like one. How about that. And how about me ending some more sentenced with the wrong punctuation? Why not. I'm on a roll?
josh rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu?
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 03:35:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: JAMMIN' WITH BIG WRECK WINNERS!!! Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.971126031059.124566A-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
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J A M M I N' W I T H B I G W R E C K C O N T E S T W I N N E R S
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FIRST: Thank you very much to all those that entered. The following people will be receiving a bunch of free Big Wreck stuff in the mail soon. Hopefully we'll be able to do more promotions like this in the future.
AND THE WINNERS ARE........(drum roll)...................................
Trevor Hort (trevorw@ms.kallback.com) Chad Allen Klunk (cak6981@omega.uta.edu) <----GRAND PRIZE WINNER!!!!! Erica Bonomi (ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu) Mark (no last name given) (markapic@futures.wharton.upenn.edu) Curtis L. Toler (promark707@digiscape.com Harley Brook (Z942856@niu.edu) June (no last name given) (junesryche@aol.com) Christina C. (ccompton@elpnet.com) Mark Peters (swifty@auburn.net) Chris Merlo (cmerlo@cs.wm.edu)
WHAT HAPPENS NOW: The winners will now send me ANOTHER email w/ their mailing information. Don't forget to include both your first and last names w/ this info. This rule applies even to those winners that sent the information in their first message. This is just a precautionary measure to make sure that no one slips through the cracks. You can expect to receieve your packages no later than one week after you e-mail me back with the aforementioned information (if this does not happen, let me know). Again, the address that the next message should be sent to is
rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu.
ANY MAILING INFORMATION POSTED TO THE JAM will result in a disqualification and your package will be sent to someone who did not make the cut-off. It sounds harsh, but that's the way it has to be. Again, thank you all very much for taking the time (sorry) to enter the first Atlantic Records-Ytsejam contest.
Richie
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 19:47:04 +1000 From: Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <347BF018.46AB@winshop.com.au>
> "Poor Venessa" might be a sarcastic remark, meaning she has it so bad > because her dad won't let her stay out all night - poor baby. Just my > thoughts.
Yes, I'd have to agree. Just listening to it now, it sounds as if James has a slightly sarcastic tone to his voice. I have no idea if it was intended this way, just MHO.
> You say this like this is a good thing. Most Metallica fans from the > first four albums DON'T like TBA. A return to the feel of that album > is still a disappointment. Sorry.
I think what he was trying to say was that the fans who DID like the black album here on the JAM (and they DO exist) should check it out. If you disliked it, then don't bother with the post. Simple as that.
Until the eleventh hour calls....
Luke.
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 05:05:45 -0500 From: David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Drummer that rule Message-ID: <199711260509_MC2-29AF-9D0A@compuserve.com>
Think I've said this before but check out Mark Monndesir. I see him on video at Jazz night at the proms with Julian Joseph, simply awesome. David C.
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 06:55:28 -0500 (EST) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Nuno Bettencourt's solo Message-ID: <v01520d00b0a0fe174e8e@[207.90.119.122]>
>ummm, ernie mentioned it a coupla days ago, that's my excuse for bringing >it up.......for a guy that apparently talented (I LOVE extreme, and if the >next VH is as heavily influenced by Gary Cherone as I'm hearing, I'm >getting that one for sure.....this from a guy who's never bought any VH >besides Diver Down on vinyl for a buck), his solo album is sorta >disappointing.....wasn't sure if I expected extreme-ish stuff, but I guess >i wanted more than what he gave out.....still, a pretty interesting >listen......
i guess it depends on what you heard about it before it came out. i knew it was going to be more modern rock sounding, so i was excepting it. if you were expecting the no power chords, funky stuff, then i guess you would be disappointed.
as far as his first solo CD, i REALLY like it. it's one of my fav CDs of the year (along with the new megadeth, new faith no more, new DT, and caedmon's call). he's got a great voice, and his songs (while simpler than the nuno we all know and love) are really well written, IMO. it's more natural sounding, as opposed to the always playing to thrill thing...
he's supposedly working on a new solo CD soon... :)
also, it may just be me, but i'm pretty sure that extreme will get back together for one more. the VH thing, while great, will not go over to well in the publics' eyes. it's bound to fail. the old DLR/VH fans, and the second wave SH/VH fans aren't gonna want another singer to deal with. all i know is, i'll buy it the first day it comes out (but that's the only VH CD i'll have in my collection)... honestly, i forsee gary with VH for one, maybe two CDs, and then EVH will call it quits from bad critics, then gary and nuno will get back together... but that's my speculation/ prediction/ hope/ whatever...
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm (at) erinet (dot) com Galactic Cowboys on the Web...muh!? http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +---
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 97 07:11:57 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: Drew S Pauley <paul0256@tc.umn.edu>, jpmohr@primenet.com, Subject: Good morning Message-ID: <347c201c4bbb002@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
And to start our broadcast day: please stand and remove your caps for The National Anthem of the United States of America.
Oh say kin ya' see by de dawn's early light What so's proudly we hailed at da damn twilight's last gleamin' Whose broad stripes and bright stars Drough de puh'ilous fight O'a' de ramparts we watched were so's gallantly streamin' And da damn rocket's red glare De bombs burstin' in air gave proof drough de night dat our flag wuz still dere Oh say duz dat star-spangled banna' yet wave O'a' de land uh de free and da damn plantation uh de brave
Thank you.
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:37:47 +0100 (CET) From: Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch> To: Chris Audet <Ytse@cris.com>, Dani Zingg <dms@bluewin.ch>, Subject: Deleated Mail on november 25th, from about 16:00 CET till november , 26th about 14:00 CET. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971126143100.5217A-100000@dwarf.studi.unizh.ch>
Sorry for disturbance to everyone who receives this mail.
I've experienced problems with my mailing programm.
EVERY MAIL RECEIVED DURING THE HEADING PERIOD HAS BEEN LOST.
If you have not sent me mail during this period of time, just deleate this mail. If you have sent me mail within this time, please send it again as soon as possible. This mainly of concern if you have written me about tickets or meeting up. Cheers Choon-Kang
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:56:39 -0600 From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert) To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: I'm off to sea, mates... Message-ID: <01bcfa73$1e844820$382227d1@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
Well lads, I'm settin' sail for me home for the Thanksgiving holidays, so I'll not return for five days. Good sailing and have a good Thanksgiving!
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:56:15 +0100 From: "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de> To: "The Ytsejam Crowd" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Acupplafings Message-ID: <9711261457.AA07071@server3.software-ag.de>
Hi all
"It was twenty years ago today, that Sgt Pepper taught the band to play". Well, nearly. It was, in fact, 21 years ago today that the Sex Pistols released that great single "Anarchy In The UK". Nostalgia night, tonight - the video of "The Great Rock'n'Roll Swindle" pogo dancing (and you kids thought moshing was new and hard), cheap lager straight from the can and safety pins through the nose. This single gave the then-stagnant British music industry a well-deserved kick up the arse.
What next? Good news for Kyuss fans. There is a new bootleg out called "Mercurious Pools" and is available for $19.50 from Asylum News. Has anybody heard it yet, or has anybody dealt with this company before? I'd be most interested in getting my grubby little paws on this. In addition, a compilation of Kyuss rarities (singles, B sides, live stuff) will be released on the 8th of December under the title "Queens Of The Stone Age" on the Man's Ruin label.
Mail me if you want some rather tasteless stuff about that guy from INXS dying.
Dream Theater content: I'll be at the Vanden Plas/Dream Theater gig in Offenbach next Tuesday. I'll be the one not wearing a Dream Theater shirt.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) (http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/2321) Currently playing: Anathema - The Silent Enigma
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