YTSEJAM Digest 3054
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Seven Wonders and my upcoming bootleg project =)
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
2) Eden Cabs
by Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>
3) Coldfire speaks again......
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
4) 23 almighty!!
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
5) To Gene Szucs
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
6) Re: 23 almighty!!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
7) Progressive Genius (Minor DTC)
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
8) I was in Dream Theater's show!
by crossmetal <crossmetal@geocities.com>
9) Clark's rant
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
10) Re: Anybody heard of Heathen?
by James Bako <jbako@intercall.com>
11) Re: Steve Vai
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
12) Hell's Kitchen in NY
by NightCast <NightCast@usa.net>
13) hooked on phonics worked for the jam
by JB <beamup@vt.edu>
14) Re: Unsub info
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
15) Yet yet yet another FII review
by "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl>
16) FII
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:02:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
To: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
Subject: Re: Seven Wonders and my upcoming bootleg project =)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.971001190242.8817A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Well, mr know it all, I didn't read that part, dumbass. <g>
Reach Damon Fibraio at damon@shell.monmouth.com
keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality
Deviant of Reality
All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars
All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars.
Neil Peart of Rush
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:24:27 -0500
From: Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Eden Cabs
Message-ID: <l03110700b0588a77ad17@[128.252.105.105]>
To Nicholas,
I play through a Highwayman amp with a 1x15T and a 4x10T. I would
HIGHLY recommend this company (David Eden) to any serious bass player
trying to get the best rig they can for both jazz and rock. With a quick
EQ (or Effects rig) change the setup is great for both. I would also have
to recommend the higher level Vantage basses. My six string is a fantastic
instrument (if you do buy vantage, be prepared to swap out ALL the
electronics, ie pickups, pots, knobs, board because tha is where the
company skimps on). I replaced mine with Seymour Duncan Basslines and I'd
put my bass up against a Carvin ($3000) or a Tung ($4-6000) anyday and I
only paid $1600, electronics included.
Anyway, If anyone from St. Louis is planing on going to Chicago to see DT
and need a ride, I'd love the company.
Seth Hatlelid
srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu
"If lobsters looked like puppies, people could never drop them in boiling
water
while they're still alive. But instead, they look like science fiction
monsters, so it's OK. Restaurants that allow patrons to select live lobsters
from a tank should be made to paint names on their shells: "Happy", "Baby
Doll", "Junior." I defy anyone to drop a living thing called "Happy" in
rapidly boiling water."
-Unknown
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 16:29:14 -0700
From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Coldfire speaks again......
Message-ID: <3432DCCA.3FA@pacbell.net>
>
> > I got you both beat, though I don't know why I'm responding to
> > this. But I'm not going to admit how much I have you beat by. But I
> > know an older one but he's not on the jam. There was ytsefart the
> > elder, are you still here?
> >
>
> Yup, still here, been here since the late 500's (April '95) and never
> missed a post in between. (Jeez, what is that, like 50,000 posts?) I
> started calling myself "YtseFart the Elder" after Scott Cook called me an
> "old fart" once. If you wanna know how old I am, you'll have to look on
> Mark Bredius' YtseBirthday page.
>
> I'll give you a clue, though - Melody Portnoy was born on my 43rd birthday!
>
I'm not as old as Ytsefart here......but I too have a 4yr old
heartbreaker daughter and she was born to DT and could recognize PMU at
birth! That's how you raise the next generation right!
>
> Dear Jammers,
> I have been a little quite lately, due to the fact that on Monday
> September 29, at around 1:30 P.M., I was involved in a near fatal car
> accident near Sydney, Ohio. I was in a head on collision at 65mph, and
> luckily both myself and the other party are not fatally injured, although
> both of our cars are totalled.
Gene,
Amen that you are still alive.....someone was looking out for
you......you have my best wishes for a speedy recovery.
>
> >Well, I just got back from a killer show at Sacramento.
> >Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. It was simply the best instrumental
> >guitar show I've been to.
<snip>
> Hey James....I was there too!! Where were you sitting!?! I was in the 7th
> row, and once again was amazed at Steve Vai live.... I saw G3 last time
> around at Concord. I got Steves autograph that time when he was at the sound
> board watching Joes set.
I got the G3 Live CD.....it smokes! Especially the Zappa cover My
Guitar wants to kill your Mama!
Too bad I'm gonna miss this upcoming show!
I'm pretty tired.....thinkI'll go home now!
"And all this could be just a dream so it seems, I was never much good
at good-bye."
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:25:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 23 almighty!!
Message-ID: <v01520d06b05854c6745b@[207.90.116.170]>
> > DT released a 23-min song on September 19th '95
> > And then they released a new CD on SEPTEMBER 23rd '97....
> >
> > Very strange, don't you think?
> >
>
> Dig this:
>
> Euclid's Geometry begins with 23 axioms
> 23 bonding pairs form a human DNA molecule
> My daughter was born on January 23rd (1/23)
> I live in apt. #2311 - there's a big 23 on the side of my building
hmmm.... on my email system, this 'jam was listed as being 23k long...
just think, it may have been only 22k if it had not been for this
insane talk of the number 23... ;)
Dan
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Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm (at) erinet (dot) com
Galactic Cowboys on the Web...muh!?
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:26:19 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: To Gene Szucs
Message-ID: <199710012326.QAA07757@goodnet.com>
Nice to have you still with us. Have a good recovery... best wishes...
-Mike Bahr-durnik@_goodnet.com-http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:41:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: 23 almighty!!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971001194138.4077B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Umm...holy shit I'm about to turn 23 *roll's eyes*
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:43:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Progressive Genius (Minor DTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971001194211.4077C-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
O.k. kiddies don't forget about ALL those other cool bands that deserve
just as much attention as DT...well almost as much. They're all available
at http://www.progmetal.org/ring we now have DT and FW links! Also feel
free to drop me a line if you know of a great progmetal band that deserves
to be heard and has a URL!
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 01:12:26 -0300
From: crossmetal <crossmetal@geocities.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I was in Dream Theater's show!
Message-ID: <3431CDAA.2BEF6685@geocities.com>
<HTML>
<BR>
<P>
Crossfire Heavy metal melodic
<BR>
type "crossfire official home page" on the altavista site to join us.
<P>Hi to every one, sorry for my poor english. I'm from Brazil and i was
in DT's concert in São Paulo. They played so much! They're amazing!!!
My eyes don't believed what they saw. I like so much, not only me,
but all the people wich been there.
<BR> But in my country, we got same troubles to
get a new album: the first one is the price, here, the FII it cost about
$28 !!!!!
<BR>
<BR> Thanks for all!! see ya.
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 20:03:20 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Clark's rant
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971001200317.00695bc8@mail.ici.net>
Wow, so many thoughts, so little time... :)
Just so you know, I cought myself nodding along with several points that
were made that I didn't even agree with, so I guess you can call that a
persausive post. I just want to post thoughts from a different point of view.
I am one of the PMU converts - one of the people who got into DT from
hearing PMU on the radio. So, I eventually went out and bought the album. I
popped it in, PMU came on, I rocked. Then, I waited for the next bangin'
tidbit to grace my ears. What comes out next? Another Day. Not a very
auspicious second impression. After the first listen, I felt a little
cheated because this band wasn't as heavy as I had led myself to believe.
At that point, I dind't know anything much about the "intricacies" of the
music, because I wasn't listeneing to it that deeply. In fact, it wasn't
until I joined this list that I actaully "heard" the album for the first time.
So my "expectations" of the band over time have been a little different.
I've learned to apreciate the complexities, but at the same time, I like
music that has structure. I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't like
Metropolis at first because I thought it "wandered" too much. Of course, I
have since mended my ways and seen the light. :) The fact is, for
non-fans/non-musicians, DT's music is difficult to listen to because of the
complexity. I accept FII and applaud it as an attempt by the band to keep
the trademark "nuances" that define the band, but layer them over less
complex, and easier to listen to SONGS.
As for compositions, I think Metropolis Pt. II will fill that bill nicely,
when it's finally released. It's for that reason that I don't think you can
take FII as the be-all and end-all of where DT is today. There is a lot of
interesting stuff going on in there: They experiment with Jazz/fusion
beats, latin beats, and big, fat grooves. All those vocal harmonies...On
some of them, the actual "lead" vocal tone is pushed back. That's
interesting to me. There are a couple of places where it sounds like JP is
playing plugged into Derek's rig (I know he said he did it at least once).
That's a very interesting sound. There are little things like that all over
the place if you look for them.
The problem is, I think too many people are doing what I did with I&W. I
was looking for a heavy rock album, and I dind't get it. Too many people
had expectations for this album that it didn't meet. Let's face it, when
you've released an album like I&W, it becomes REAL tough to top yourself
REAL fast.
My conclusion (and this is not aimed at you, Clark, just a general
statement): Don't focus on what FII *isn't*, look at what it *is*. There's
enough there for everyone.
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________
E-Mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator ICQ: 2049374
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Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay.
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 19:55:59 -0700
From: James Bako <jbako@intercall.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Anybody heard of Heathen?
Message-ID: <34330D3F.14D7@intercall.com>
MTeiper@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey folx -
>
> Just a quick question... has anyone heard of the 80's speed/thrash metal
> band, Heathen? Well, if so, I am REALLY looking for a copy of their album
> "Breaking the Silence" on CD. Can anyone help out??
Good luck, man. I've been looking for that one for years. It got so bad
that I almost stole it from a friend of mine. Personally though, I think
their second one, Victims Of Deception, blows BtS away.
btw, the guitarist and drummer relocated to Germany a few years ago to
play for Die Krupps (a better-than-average heavy industrial band, whose
main claim to fame is the Metallica tribute album they did in '93).
Later,
James Bako
jbako@intercall.com
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:11:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Steve Vai
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.971001190531.62304B-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
Hi guys. I went to a g3 concert in san antonio last year and it
rocked! Especially Vai. I read that some guys got his autograph, and that
he is a very nice guy. Goddamit, it happened the same thing to me while
he was being interviewed by some radio station! I was AMAZED. and steve
gave me his autograph. How is the new g3 lineup? Is Fripp doing in the
shows his sick stuff? I would like to go again this october 9 in san
antonio, but i have no place to stay, anybody offer me and a friend shelter?
Write me privately.
Peace!
Mauricio
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:33:07 -0600
From: NightCast <NightCast@usa.net>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hell's Kitchen in NY
Message-ID: <01BCCE95.2997E280@tron>
Merlo said:
I hate to burst your bubble on this, but Hell's Kitchen is a neighborhood of
New York City, on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. (Maybe it's where the
recording studio is, I dunno.)
I say:
Isn't this where the movie 'Sleepers' took place? That was one deranged movie. I can't watch it again.
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 20:57:18 -0400
From: JB <beamup@vt.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: hooked on phonics worked for the jam
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971001205718.007ae100@mail.vt.edu>
OK DAMMIT.... Let's drop the HAIR's/HAIR IS/HAIRS/etc. thread... god...
this is getting annoying, when every digest has 3-4 messages about
this/grammar errors/etc. as a joke from time to time it's cool...but
please, nothing serious from now on... people know what they meant to post,
and so do you if you correct them.
>, nHey, Ryan. Put my resergvatrion down for Spinning years now.
c'mon.. read his damn post!!!! "Don't email me about reserving a copy
yet".... and don't encourage anyone else to clutter the jam like this as
well...
>HY Is this the doctored song? sounds like it. I like it, but can't help
but think
>that Desmond child should stay out of a prog rock band's music. This song
>stinks of being doctored by some recording company hitmaker and for DT it
>just bothers me, although i love the song and melodies and everything, it
>just doesn't fit DT.
Dude.. this is one of Petrucci's most emotional songs (of course next to TAMP)
I've heard!!! What do you mean it stinks of doctoring??? "You Not Me" is the
Desmond Child flick (and as such "sounds like it could get a lot of
airplay").. it
is co-written by Petrucci (you can definitely hear his part in the song),
but overall
it's the obviously doctored one...
>Do you see where I'm going with this? Those albums are the reason i like DT.
>How could I not compare FII with them?
I think the thing people are saying, is not to compare them TO each other
to determine if you like the album or not, I know it's difficult not to
compare, but instead try appreciating the parts of FII not ever heard
before (and there's quite a bit of it), and not looking for parts that you
would expect to be in IaW/Awake. With Hootie (sorry hootie fans), you
could do that... one album just sounds like the next, but with a band as
intricate and complex as DT, it's impossible to get everything you expect
(and expect everything you get - since you usually get more!).
Later on... keep listenin'... it only gets better from here!
Kind of reminds me of the Old Milwaukee quote -- " guys... it doesn't get
any better than this!!! " how true!
c'yas,
Jason
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:00:12 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Unsub info
Message-ID: <199710020100.SAA11766@gms.gmsnet.com>
Most mailing lists are ran with the same software... you send an
unsubscribe <list> command to it and it'll usually unsubscribe you...
IT's NOT THAT FUCKING HARD!
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 21:11:26 -0400 (CST) From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yet yet yet another FII review Message-ID: <199710020111.VAA10777@antonia.webhost.cl>
I finally received my FII copy (thanks, CD Universe!), and here come my thoughts and comments:
New Millennium: nice instrumental sections - JLB's voice doesn't fit into the song, though. The song is long, yet the final part makes me feel it came somewhat short.
You Not Me: hated the MP3, hate the song now. That "Youuuuu, not meeeee" chorus is simply horrible - probably D.Child's "work" on it. I wonder if DT will play the song live this way (hope not) and how it was originally. Besides, each time I hear it, I wish more and more it was about a minute shorter. I figure I'll end up skipping this song every time.
Peruvian Skies: quite good, except for a detail: the sung section and the instrumental section are so different they could be two different songs. Also, does the latter one sound Metallica-ish or is it just me?
Hollow Years: pretty good, though the ending is somewhat unoriginal.
Burning My Soul: good, but it has a BIG flaw: that "Buuuurniing my soul" ("BMS"), followed by the electronically altered repeat ("[bms]"). It's done TOO MANY times - had it been "BMS" or "BMS BMS" instead of "BMS [bms] BMS [bms] BMS [bms] BMS [bms] BMS [bms]" I wouldn't be complaining now.
Hell's Kitchen: WOW! This instrumental ALONE justifies my $$$. The best song^H^H^H^Htheme in the album (and, let me be crystal clear on this, is NOT because JLB doesn't sing). I wish it was a minute longer (taking it from YNM, of course!). A week ago I downloaded many MP3s, and will erase them now that I have the CD, (disk space: the final frontier) but I am keeping this one...
Lines In The Sand: just what the hell was that "Ye, ye, ye!" at 3:51??? It took me entirely by surprise! Song's good, in any case.
Take Away My Pain: the music at the beginning (the first 50 seconds) of the song keeps reminding of another (non-DT) one, but I can't identify it. It's driving me nuts! Can anyone help me? Please? Besides this, its typical pop song structure is quite obvious, which is not a Good Thing [tm].
Just Let Me Breathe: So DT throws shit to commercial music, yet they seem to be going into it... I must say this bothers me. (and did I hear an Awake riff reused here?)
Anna Lee: VERY VERY nice. However, the song's structure is SO obvious that AL, as a whole, can't be titled as "perfect". I, being a proghead and a Tangerine Dream fan, value VERY MUCH a "non-standard" structure for a song (other than the typical intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/instrumental/chorus/chorus/chorus used in strictly commercial songs (as in, say, the dreaded SG)). In this matter, FII has failed, as most of the songs use well known structures, being this song the most obvious case. In any case, if something it's well done, then very probably it's good, and AL *IS* good (though not perfect).
Trial of Tears: I don't want to yell "rip-off!" (yet), but the beginning part (0:00..1:10, and again at 12:30..12:50) sounds *TOO MUCH* like Rush's _Xanadu_ (from their _A Farewell to Kings_ album), and I feel quite umcomfortable hearing this. I'd like to know what both bands have to say about this issue before I comment any further.
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 21:18:57 -0700 From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FII Message-ID: <343320B1.785C@dreamt.org>
Well, I finally got my copy of FII, even though I'm week late. I've listened to it a few times and feel like sharing my own thoughts on the album. My highlights are NM, LITS, PS, BMS/HK, TAMP, and of course, TOT. YNM: I still don't like this song. I listened to it in mp3 format and just can't get into it. It really is cheesy imo. Maybe it will grow on me (If I can control myself not to skip the track once in a while!) BMS: This is obviously the "balls and chunk" song of the album. While I do like the album, I was disapointed that there was only one heavy song. TAMP and PS: I remember these songs sounding much better live at the fix show last year. TAMP still has lots of emotion, but when I heard it live last year it almost brought a tear to my eye. PS had some cool harmonies by JP and MP. Where are they? TOT: When I read the lyrics, I knew this was going to be a great song. John M is a great lyric writer. He conveys such powerful images. JLMB: This song cracks me up. I hate posers, and there seem to be more and more starting younger and younger each day in my school. This song is so cool just because it makes fun of all these people. I love "daily dose of eMpTyV"! Now I wonder if Mike got that from the jam... Well, since everyone's heard a gazillion reviews by now, I'll just keep mine short and end it now. Just wanted to share a few feelings.
BTW, who is Desmond Child? I know that I know the name but just can't place it. ========================================================================
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