YTSEJAM Digest 3061
Today's Topics:
1) Savatage Tickets for sale
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
2) Time Sigs question.
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
3) She's baaaaaaack...
by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
4) first Dt
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
5) Music programs
by DrummerEsh@aol.com
6) Re: DT Win95 Theme
by "Steve Lehrfeld" <DREG@hutman.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3060
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
8) Re: Time Sigs question.
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
9) Re: CHECK YOUR CHARTS
by "Pedro Ordonez" <pedrord@quik.guate.com>
10) Re: Guitars and basses and drums....oh my
by "Pedro Ordonez" <pedrord@quik.guate.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3055
by Dominor252@aol.com
12) nighttime ramblings
by "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com>
13) Re: Merry Axemas?
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
14) DT cds for sale
by "Matt Wilson" <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net>
15) Re: Guitars and basses and drums....oh my
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
16) DT Promos....
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
17) You Not Me
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
18) Crack a Smile boot...
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
19) Crack a Smile
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 97 19:22:00 EDT
From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Savatage Tickets for sale
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+Ho0BoA@tcx.tcco.com>
I have 2 tickets for the Savatage show at the Birch Hill (10/17). If you
want them, I'm just asking for the face value ($20 for both). Just email and
I will mail out to you.
Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:28:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
To: "Yzerjam: the Mailing list for DT/Red Wing Fans Worldwide" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Time Sigs question.
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.971002192308.1101A-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
I'm not much of a musician (I can play a pretty mean air guitar),
but I am curious of something that maybe you musicians can answer: What is
the most whacked out, insane time signature that you have ever heard of
out of a prog rock/prog metal band, and what song (or part of the song) and
album? On that same hand, what is the most insane time sig on a DT song?
Either emailed to me or sent to the list is fine, unless someone
complains loudly :).
-jeremy (who's hoping he can maybe figure out how to figure
out time signatures in songs someday)
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 19:26:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: She's baaaaaaack...
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.971002192528.41186A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>
Hey, ytseguys and gals! Sorry I've been so quiet lately, but it's not
easy keeping up with 10 jams a day on top of working and going to school
and being a newlywed. I've been ROTFLMAO with all the grammar
discussions! I was reading them while at work (some of you may know that
I work part time in the University's Writing Center), and the other
tutors thought I was just plain weird for laughing at the computer. :D
As far as my "Help DT Get Airplay Web Page" goes, it hasn't gotten a
major overhaul in about two weeks, but I do have a couple of new things
to add. For those of you who just joined the list (or resubbed), I
compiled a list of a whole bunch of radio stations and e-mail addresses
so we can *ahem* suggest they play BMS. So far I've heard some great
things about your efforts in mailing them. Don't forget about it!
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039/radio.html
On a side note, anyone wanna e-mail bomb KLOL in Houston? They aren't
playing it at all! :P
About FII's "chatterings" at the beginnings and endings of songs: Some
ppl have referred to the sounds as slamming doors, typewriters, someone
saying "Falling Into Infinity" before BMS, and the like. From what I can
tell (and I'm not an experienced production person, so I may be wrong),
it sounds like someone did a shitty job putting the songs together. I
actually heard the guy saying FII, and it sounded like they were
announcing the album title before each song (doing something similar to
what they do in movies by saying "Back to the Future, Scene 55, Take 88"
or whatever). To me, it just sounds sloppy. I really think there's no
excuse for the mistakes.
I'm not going to put my personal opinion of the whole album. (Except
that I LOVE IT!!! Whoops. That's a personal opinion. Sorry.) But I'll
post a real review of it later this month on my Web site if I ever find
the time.
OK, back to reading the 'jams. 50 down, 10 to go...
***Disclaimer*** This post is not spell-checked. Deal with it. :)
-Nicole/Kirby
Nicole Rene Stachowicz McWatters | The sleep is still in my eyes
Undergrad Professional Writing Major | The dream is still in my head
University of Houston-Downtown | I heave a sigh and ... smile
stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu | And lie a while in bed.
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039 |
Kirby on irc.dreamt.org | "Soliloquy" _2112_ by Rush
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:36:17 -0500 (EST)
From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: first Dt
Message-ID: <01IOCEQOD6II00M6WD@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
I'm always captivated by really cool album art, and Awake had just that. I saw
the CD lying on my brother's floor, and said, "holy shit, it looks so cool it
*has* to be good.
And it...um, was.
josh
rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:40:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: DrummerEsh@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Music programs
Message-ID: <971002203756_642531912@emout06.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-10-02 12:45:22 EDT, you write:
Hi there
Can one of you jammers turn me on to a shareware/freeware program for
Win95 that you can use to generate sheet music with? A friend of mine
uses Encore and he loves it, but I just don't have that kind of money.
Thanks,
Chip >>
Hey buddy why dont you just copy the program off your friend??? Dont have
to waste money that way. Roberts my name software pirating is my game.
HEHEHE
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:58:48 +0000
From: "Steve Lehrfeld" <DREG@hutman.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT Win95 Theme
Message-ID: <1336293234-1046000@hutman.com>
> From: "'Eddie J Cooper'" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
> Can someone please mail me with an offer of DT Themes for '95...
You can get a free one at the URL below
-steve
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DREG Records - New & Improved Progressive Rock
http://www.hutman.com/dreg/
= Home of the Kansas Tribute compilation =
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:03:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3060
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.971002215802.9120B-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> October 25th-- Toad's Place, CT (6:30 PM)
Shit!!! Motley Crue is the same night in Worchester and I already have
tickets for it. I guess I'll just have to wait till DT hits Boston.
Richie
P.S. Wanna have some fun? During the "twisting....turning" part of BMS,
try singing "this world is spinning around me" from PMU. No wonder BMS was
chosen as the single.
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:08:23 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Time Sigs question.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971002230128.4047A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Jeremy C. Hallum wrote:
> I'm not much of a musician (I can play a pretty mean air guitar),
ROTFLOL!!!!
> but I am curious of something that maybe you musicians can answer: What is
> the most whacked out, insane time signature that you have ever heard of
> out of a prog rock/prog metal band, and what song (or part of the song) and
> album? On that same hand, what is the most insane time sig on a DT song?
I'm not a musician, nor I know how to count the time signatures,
but I looked at the "A Change of Seasons" tab and found 17/16, if I'm not
mistaken. This is the time sig with the higher "denumerator" that I have
ever seen. And 17 is a prime number. :-)
Just wanted to know how a music in 45/32 sounds like... :-)
> -jeremy (who's hoping he can maybe figure out how to figure
> out time signatures in songs someday)
One way you can do it is try to count with the drums and try to
find some pattern. The strongest beat seems to be the first in a measure
(I don't know if this is the right word).
BTW, I have a related question here: I was hearing "...And Justice
for All" (the album) and I was told that all Metallica has composed was in
4/4. But I have serious doubts, when I'm listening to "Blackened" or even
AJFA. Can some higher intelligence shed some light here to the lesser
informed 'jammers?? Is "Fight Fire with Fire" a 1/1 composition (the beats
don't seem to be different from each other)...
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:47:39 +0000 From: "Pedro Ordonez" <pedrord@quik.guate.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: CHECK YOUR CHARTS Message-ID: <199710030247.UAA04219@mails.quik.guate.com>
> BTW, if anyone's still wondering if some of the band members are > reading the Ytsejam -- they do. I promise I will keep my mouth shut > (and my fingers still) in future... Well, at least I'll try ;-)...
Well, if they are please read this:
PLEASE come to Guatemala!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And thank you for all the good songs. Especially Hell's Kitchen, just takes me away to another place..
*************************************************** * Pedro Ordonez * * Guatemala * * email: pedrord@quik.guate.com * ***************************************************
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:47:39 +0000 From: "Pedro Ordonez" <pedrord@quik.guate.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Guitars and basses and drums....oh my Message-ID: <199710030248.UAA04230@mails.quik.guate.com>
> shines on this album. I have never heard such driving bass lines in > my life. Equally impressive is his work with the Chapman stick. If
Myung is definitely the bass player!!! But waht the hell is a chapman stick?? I've been hearing about it for a long time, but dunno what that is.I only know that very few bassists can play it. Anyone knows a bit about this, how does it look, etc?
*************************************************** * Pedro Ordonez * * Guatemala * * email: pedrord@quik.guate.com * ***************************************************
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:45:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Dominor252@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3055 Message-ID: <971002224341_1299374799@emout17.mail.aol.com>
>>> Well, I was converted by "Metropolis". A frined of mine told me: >>I'm sure I'm one of very few that was converted by "Surrounded."
I was actually converted by tabulature, if you can believe that... in college I picked up some guitar magazine with transcription to Caught In A Web (I forget the real reason I got the magazine, cuz I had never heard of DT before then), and the tab just killed me... I was like, no. So I had to buy Awake, and the rest they say, is history. They fit my listening rack just right, ya know?
ObFavSong: "Surrounded"
Dominor
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: nighttime ramblings Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.971002230709.24014B-100000@achilles.bbn.com>
Hey All!
Just sitting here doing a little hacking, and listening to FII... Does anyone else ever get filled with that raise-the-hair-on-the-back-of-your- neck feeling when listening to this? My god.. it's awesome.... The one thing that keeps blowing me away about this album is the sense of GROOVE... incredible... that's it for now.. just had to get that off my chest ;)
Keep jamming...
Chad
____________________________________________________________________________ Chad L. Cook BBN Technologies Senior Systems Administrator 733 Concord Avenue ccook@bbn.com Cambridge, MA 02138
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 23:35:52 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Merry Axemas? Message-ID: <199710030335.XAA08409@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> > Does anyone know the release date for Merry Axemas? I heard > that is was this past Tuesday but I haven't seen it anywhere > yet.
Someone just posted to the NMS that they heard a release date on the radio of November 11th. Can't wait!
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:24:40 -0400 From: "Matt Wilson" <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT cds for sale Message-ID: <19971003032802.AAA22269@matt>
Hi Ytsejammers: I have the following DT cds for sale:
1. Dance of Eternity(1 cd)-Impax Club, Bufallo,NY 5/18/97-$30.00 2. Millan 1993(2 cds)-Palasesto, Milan, Italy 11/15/93-$45.00 3. Wake Up!(2 cds)-Urawa Bunka Center, Saitama, Japan 1/24/95-$45.00
E-mail me at Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net if interested. SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY PLEASE!
Thank you for your time. Matt
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 23:44:59 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Guitars and basses and drums....oh my Message-ID: <199710030345.XAA08484@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> Myung is definitely the bass player!!! But waht the hell is a > chapman stick?? I've been hearing about it for a long time, but dunno > what that is.I only know that very few bassists can play it. Anyone > knows a bit about this, how does it look, etc?
<plug> I'm happy to say that this is one the questions answered in the newest version of the Dream Theater FAQ (version 5.01), which can be found at the URL below. :) </plug>
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:18:18 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Promos.... Message-ID: <199710030408.XAA09075@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 2 Oct 97 at 16:40, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> stuff to play, so if you are interested, I can give you his email address. > I haven't gotten anything from him yet, so I don't know what he'll send, > but hey, to promote DT, it's worth it!
Please let me know, I am interested. My e-mail is: afors@btigate.com, let me know! Andrew Fors afors@btigate.com http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:18:18 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: You Not Me Message-ID: <199710030409.XAA09117@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 2 Oct 97 at 16:40, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> A man's gotta bitch, right ? That seems to be the problem here. It's > not that "You Not Me" is a bad song. It's just that it has potential > of becoming a hit. On this list, "hit" is a dirty word.
No kidding, I've noticed that. It seems the most disliked song are "Burning My Soul" and "You Not Me," my two faves! And yeah, they do have hit potential. I think this would be good for Dream Theater.
> Personally, I think it's brilliant in it's own right.
I agree, it's different yes, but good!
> People read about Desmond Child's involvement, even before the Mpeg3 > hit the 'Net... He has different priorities than Dream Theater seems > to have, namely scoring hits. What the Desmond Child linch mob does > NOT get, is the fact that Dream Theater agreed to work with him *or* > maybe even personally asked him to work with them.
Exactly, I couldn't agree more! IT's still Dream Theater people, not a Desmond Child song....
> > That's my two cents worth. > > Unfortunately, other people's two cents usually aren't worth shit to > most 'Jammers. "Falling Into Inflation", I guess. :-)
I've only been here a brief time and have noticed. I posted askign about WInter Rose and got nothing..... Andrew Fors afors@btigate.com http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:18:18 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Crack a Smile boot... Message-ID: <199710030409.XAA09126@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 2 Oct 97 at 13:02, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> If anyone has or knows of a place where I could get a copy of one of those > Crack A Smile Promos, please drop me an e-mail at: andrew@ames.net. Can > work out trade or am willing to pay a fair price. Thanks!
Good luck man, I got mine when they first hit, asince there's only 300 of those very professional ones, I doubt you could find one for less than about $150.... I wouldn't sell mine for anything. Andrew Fors afors@btigate.com http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:18:18 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Crack a Smile Message-ID: <199710030409.XAA09132@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 2 Oct 97 at 13:02, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> To the guys who were discussing this disc, I would have to agree that this > is Poison's best album ever. > Blues Saraceno is a fucking awesome guitarist. Only 300 made huh? Are they > numbered? I have the > disc and I wasn't aware that there was only 300 made. Rock on.
No, they're not numbered. SOme peopel may have made more boots, but mine is very professional, has a selection number, is even lable "For Promotional Use Only, Not for Sale." And everything. Is hasd the album's supposed release date, plus some cool pics. Saraceno does kick ass, I have his HAirpick CD, it rulez. I can;t wait for Saraceno's new band, Gogeous George to put their album Andrew Fors afors@btigate.com http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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