YTSEJAM Digest 3070
Today's Topics:
1) Tony MacAlpine and a few things...
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) DT on the West Coast (no dates)
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
3) Marillion (NDTC)
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
4) Re: Providence
by Joseph Cristina <joecr@ici.net>
5) Marillion
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
6) My first post (tm)
by Koo <dkoo@toolbox.ug.cs.su.oz.au>
7) Re: sales and shits
by Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
8) Savatage Openers?
by MTeiper@aol.com
9) Re: AUCTION: Silent Man CD Single
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
10) Re: Tony MacAlpine and a few things...
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
11) Tuxedo Junction
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
12) Re: sales and shits
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) Going too far...
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
14) Tot/ My own top-ten
by "Peter Tatischev" <tatisch@glasnet.ru>
15) Re: sales and shits
by Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
16) DT LA DATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
17) Re: sales and shits
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
18) Re: sales and shits
by "Rosa M. Gonzalez" <ocean@caribe.net>
19) la show
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
20) Similarity and BackUp Vocals
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
21) Re: sales and shits
by Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 02:43:11 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tony MacAlpine and a few things...
Message-ID: <199710050943.CAA07077@gms.gmsnet.com>
Well, I just got back from seeing Tony MacAlpine at the Roxy in
Hollywood... he is insane... don't know who was more insane, Eric Johnson
or him... both were sick... Some italian dudes were there, so I asked
him, "What bands do you listen to?" and he replied, "Dream Theater"... I
thought, "man, that's fucking cool..." but he didn't know about Angra or
Fates Warning or any of those other bands... not even Time Machine, an
Italian progmetal band... A progmetal band called Affusion was the act
right before Tony came on, and they were pretty impressive actually...
heavy too...
Bootlegs: heh, I hate hypocrites who say, "I don't condone bootlegs, but I
record everybody..." pull your head outta your ass...
That guy Chris Merlo keeps talking about family... man... I hate to think
I'm related to him, or Syrinx... :)
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 02:46:35 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on the West Coast (no dates) Message-ID: <199710050946.CAA07099@gms.gmsnet.com>
Just a post to all those who are gonna see DT in California and perhaps Oregon.... I'll probably be at ALL the shows... so look for me and my goatee and if you're in the bay area... I'm sure you'll see me and that maniac from Dolby Labs...
What was his name? Rick something? Audit?? Audet?? :)
So I might make it to the Phoenix shows too, so I can mosh on all you Arizonians... ;)
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:33:08 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Marillion (NDTC) Message-ID: <01BCD1A1.A6E38640@ns.globalxs.nl>
Rick 'Spine' Terry wrote :
> If you really want the low down on Marillion, subscribe to > Freaks, the Marillion mailing list. Mark Bredius (Itchy) is > the demented maniac who runs it and he will show you the ropes.
Well, I *am* a demented maniac :-) but I can't take credit for running the Freaks list. I *do* run the Marillion webring, which has about 30 Marillion and/or Fish sites.
For those who are interested in hearing Marillion samples, there is a page on "Itchy's Homepage" that has links to real audios on other sites (47 Marillion samples and 7 Fish samples)... The URL for that page is http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/samples.htm
I haven't heard any of them *myself*, because I have the all the albums already :-) So I have no idea how long the samples are, and how their quality is.
> How about it Mark!!?? Enlighten this chap!!
I think you did a pretty good job already :-) _____
Stephen LaMonica wrote :
> Does anyone know where or how I can get a hold of any Leviathan CD's? > I have checked speciality stores as well as the big chains, but to no > avail. Thanks
You forgot to mention Chris Merlo's wonderful DT FAQ. :-)
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 21:47:27 -0400 From: Joseph Cristina <joecr@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Providence Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971005214725.0068d9c8@mail>
To answer your question about Lupos. It is a much smaller club that is located parallel to the Strand on the other block.
As far as Mike Bahr's CDs: Yea they are GREAT!!! but if your name is the end of the list of people receiving a copy it takes longer because he is using his own CD-R writer to make each CD and with a 4x writer, It takes about 20 minutes to make a CD. So with all the CD projects he has he can only make a few a day with work.
Joe
>What is Lupo's, sounds like a pizza joint, they should be playing the >Strand in Providence. We'll see I guess. > >As far as Mike Bahr , his cd's are great if you don't mind waiting 8 >MONTHS.
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 11:36:09 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Marillion Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971005113609.0069eddc@sysop.com.mx>
>I just stopped by the local music shop and they've got 2 or 3 imported albums. >Ipersonally don't know a damn thing about Marillion but I wondered if these are >normally hard to come by. I could pick them up for someone if they're >interested. Plus, what's a good album to start myself off with?
>josh
I think that the best albums to start are:
BEST OF BOTH WORLDS (2CD) or A SINGLES COLLECTION (SIX OF ONE, HALF A DOZEN OF THE OTHER) (1 CD)
JFQC
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:41:22 +1000 From: Koo <dkoo@toolbox.ug.cs.su.oz.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My first post (tm) Message-ID: <199710051641.CAA16458@toolbox.ug.cs.su.oz.au>
Hey all, after ~8 months of hiding behind bins and monitors I'm finally outta lurk mode (not for long, I promise) and there are a few reasons for this:
1) FII... (bet none of you guessed that) 2) I got my Seven Wonders CD the day after I got FII =) btw great job Ryan. Excellent service, fast delivery, and great boots. (TTT w/ extended outro, Silent Man (elec), Eve, TLF, Tears...I'll be typing all the songs out if I don't stop here) and 3) Op777's great news about DT coming down under sometime. YEAH!!
I'm hoping that I will be able to do what you ppl in other countries are doing, driving everywhere to catch their concerts within a 1000km radius, and maybe meet a few fellow aussie jammers on the way.
Well, that concludes my first post, I'll disappear now.
Take care everyone.
dan
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 18:33:56 +0200 From: Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: sales and shits Message-ID: <3437C174.1425@Netvision.net.il>
JB wrote: > ( I don't like Boyz II Men, but I appreciate their musical talents)....
What talent?
But really, Boyz II Men have a musical talent like Coolio have one...
('course, it's just MHO)
-- Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM
"I'm American, honey. Our names don't mean shit." - Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction
"How can you keep your head and not go insane when the only light at the end of the tunnel is another train" - Mike Portnoy
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:43:33 -0400 (EDT) From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage Openers? Message-ID: <971005124330_793794322@emout03.mail.aol.com>
Hey Duderz -
Just checked out the Tuxedo Junction's homepage. They say that 2 bands: Soundscape and Beyond Reality are opening for the mighty 'Tage on October 16. Has anyone ever heard of these bands? Are they prog?
Thaingks...
- Matt T.
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 11:44:20 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: AUCTION: Silent Man CD Single Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971005114420.006a1f6c@sysop.com.mx>
>Syrinx: > exactly what the subeject says. i've gotten a hold of an extra > copy of "The Silent Man" CD single, and i'm willing to sell to the > highest bidder. that's the way i work. don't like it? too bad. > > the bidding starts at $20. if interested, email me.
>Nothing personnel Syrinx but this CD is available from: >CD Universe for $11.95 http://www.cduniverse.com >CD Now for $12.49 http://www.cdnow.com
>gRaham_
Wow, I bought that CD at Best Buy for only $8.99. I think that the auction shloud start $20 and below!
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 13:41:55 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tony MacAlpine and a few things... Message-ID: <199710051741.NAA24553@wi.cs.wm.edu>
> That guy Chris Merlo keeps talking about family... man... I hate to think > I'm related to him, or Syrinx... :)
It's OK, Mosh, you're only, like, the adopted stepkid or something anyway. :)
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 13:46:56 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tuxedo Junction Message-ID: <199710051746.NAA24584@wi.cs.wm.edu>
> Just checked out the Tuxedo Junction's homepage. They say that 2 bands: > Soundscape and Beyond Reality are opening for the mighty 'Tage on October > 16. Has anyone ever heard of these bands? Are they prog?
Isn't TJ the place upstate somewhere where Fates had an absolutely *awful* go of it, because the club was so horrible? I remember hearing about a pool table in the middle of the floor, something about the house lights, etc etc... If I'm wrong, then by all means correct me, but if this is the place, I'd recommend that people instead make the road trip to Birch or Toad's to see this show.
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:39:31 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: sales and shits Message-ID: <199710051839.LAA08428@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Shai Yallin said: > >What talent? > >But really, Boyz II Men have a musical talent like Coolio have one...
WHAT?!?! I can't believe you don't like the fact that groups like Boyz 2 Men remake every song in existent and make tons of money from it... that's fucking talent baby! :)
Hey... I disagree... I think Coolio is one down brother...
But hey, what do you know, you're from what? Israel?? All it takes for talent is a trigger finger right?
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 15:12:36 -0400 (EDT) From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Going too far... Message-ID: <01IOGAAHHVWI9OE9VL@alma.edu>
>But hey, what do you know, you're from what? Israel?? All it takes for talent >is a trigger finger right? > > >-The Doc
Wow. It takes ALOT to offend me, and I've never been accused of not being able to take a joke before, but this was just TOTALLY innapropriate. I cannot believe you actually wrote that. -Clark
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:51:58 +0300 From: "Peter Tatischev" <tatisch@glasnet.ru> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tot/ My own top-ten Message-ID: <m0xHwm4-001A8uN@mail.glas.apc.org>
Hi, jammers!!
]From the first time I got to listen to ToT I could hardly understand what you guys liked there - but now I got it!!! That is probably the best song of all FII... LaBrie's voive is absoulutely oustanding here!!! And they all perform here as on I&W - this song really reminds me of that time... No more words on it!!
Btw, as it is the end of the week, let me present you my own top-ten this week:
1. Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity 2. Dream Theater - Live At The Marquee 3. The Free Spirits - Live In Tokyo 4. Royal Hunt - Land Of Broken Hearts 5. Stu Hamm - The Urge 6. Stu Hamm - Kings Of Sleep 7. Jethro Tull - Nightcap (unreleased and rare tracks) 8. Steve Morse Band - The Introduction 9. Jaco Pastorius - Invitation 10. John Patitucci - Heart Of The Bass
Agh, have you ever noticed that JP can mean four great musicians: Jimmy Pland , John Petrucci, Jaco Pastorius and John Patitucci... ======================================= Untie these strings, I'm climbing down I won't let them push me away Change Of Seasons, lyrics by Mike Portnoy Peter Tatischev tatisch@iname.com ========================================
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 21:55:43 +0200 From: Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: sales and shits Message-ID: <3437F0BF.4DA1@Netvision.net.il>
Dr. Mosh wrote: > But hey, what do you know, you're from what? Israel?? All it takes for talent > is a trigger finger right?
Just because we don't have any rock/metal/prog band over here, and just because all of the local music is alternashit/dance it dosen't mean that you can judge me!
So What?!!?! We have no good music... We have no army... Everybody hates us... Our government sux...
But it dosen't mean I don't know what I'm talking about!!!
NP: Oasis - what's the story (morning glory)
-- Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM
"I'm American, honey. Our names don't mean shit." - Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction
"How can you keep your head and not go insane when the only light at the end of the tunnel is another train" - Mike Portnoy
Visit my home page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:57:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT LA DATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971005125646.21939A-100000@mcl.ucsb.edu>
Today's LA times has a listing for
HOUSE OF BLUES: DREAM THEATER NOV 12
Have to go get tickets now, later.
Conrad
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 16:14:02 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: sales and shits Message-ID: <199710052014.QAA03030@ia.cs.wm.edu>
Ya know, I was on Shai's side until I read...
> But it dosen't mean I don't know what I'm talking about!!! > > NP: Oasis - what's the story (morning glory)
..and he lost me.
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 16:18:34 -0300 From: "Rosa M. Gonzalez" <ocean@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: sales and shits Message-ID: <3437E80A.6E55@caribe.net>
Dr. Mosh wrote: > > On the Eve of Destruction, Shai Yallin said: > > > >What talent? > > > >But really, Boyz II Men have a musical talent like Coolio have one... > > WHAT?!?! I can't believe you don't like the fact that groups like Boyz 2 Men > remake every song in existent and make tons of money from it... that's fucking > talent baby! :)
yeah..they may do that but you have to agree..they are good singers..in the technical (technical?voice?) sense..
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:26:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: la show Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971005132326.26576A-100000@mcl.ucsb.edu>
tickets aren't on sale yet. I called the House of Blues and there is a possibility that it could be 21 and over. Of course I am only 20. I guess it changes according to who is playing.
When FATES WARNING played this summer at a 21+ place in the Bay Area, I drove to LA to see them. The problem now is that I am at school in SB with no car. I fake ID may be in order.
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 14:04:47 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Similarity and BackUp Vocals Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971005140447.007cb650@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
First of all, does anyone else hear striking similarities between the intro to "Peruvian Skies" and Metallica's "Bleeding Me"?
Also, does anyone know, or have a list of, who sings back ups on which songs? I want to listen for JP and MP's voices, but Im not sure where to listen. Im pretty sure they sing on BMS, but Im not sure.
BTW, LiTS is an INCREDIBLE song. Straight out of I&W era, but with more knowledge and wisdom. An instant classic, right up there with LtL and ACOS in my book.
I will never love an album as much as I&W, but FII might come close : )
Jon
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 23:17:35 +0200 From: Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: sales and shits Message-ID: <343803EF.4D4D@Netvision.net.il>
Christopher R. Merlo wrote: > > Ya know, I was on Shai's side until I read... > > > But it dosen't mean I don't know what I'm talking about!!! > > > > NP: Oasis - what's the story (morning glory) > > ..and he lost me. >
I think you didn't get my joke....
-- Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM
"I'm American, honey. Our names don't mean shit." - Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction
"How can you keep your head and not go insane when the only light at the end of the tunnel is another train" - Mike Portnoy
Visit my home page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247
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