YTSEJAM Digest 3085
Today's Topics:
1) Setlist.....and MY ideal setlist...
by Loren Caler <lcaler@flash.net>
2) Re: Dream Theater Dates (fwd)
by Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3084
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
4) question about Nevermore
by Wes Foll <wfoll@america.net>
5) R: Elektra Web Site
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
6) Re: DT MANAGEMENT INFO
by "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
7) Lupos site
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
8) Fan Club
by Martin R=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E9?=millard <rem.martin@sympatico.ca>
9) poop
by JB <beamup@vt.edu>
10) Attention Musicians - take my microphone..please!!
by Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net>
11) ACOS Project
by "James Thorpe" <thirdhvn@community.net>
12) No mention
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
13) attn LA area MEGADETH fans
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
14) dreamt.org ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
15) Dale Newberry: Please Email Me
by Jay <darwin@bcl.net>
16)
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
17) Houston Show
by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
18) gratitude
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
19) DT
by Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
20) Fan Club...
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 19:57:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Loren Caler <lcaler@flash.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Setlist.....and MY ideal setlist...
Message-ID: <199710090057.TAA22073@endeavor.flash.net>
Now don't flame for asking, but does anyone know anything about a setlist
for this tour? I'm REALLY curious to hear one.
I think everyone should list what they feel it should (hey if DT really DOES
read these, maybe they'll get some ideas :).....here goes:
(in order of course):
New Millennium (man this would be an AWESOME opener)
Under a Glass Moon
A Part from ACOS (haven't thought of which one yet)
Peruvian Skies
Afterlife
Puppies on Acid (into---->)
Take the Time (I think that whole song change thing they did was GREAT!)
Hell's Kitchen (can't WAIT to hear this one if they play it) (right into----->)
Lines in the Sand (just like the album)
Surrounded
YtseJam w/ drum solo
To Live Forever w/ guitar solo
Another ACOS part
Just Let Me Breathe (possibly switch the drum solo into this song)
Pull Me Under
Trial of Tears (MAN would this be an AWEOSME CLOSER!!!)
I calculated the ACOS at about five minutes and added an extra ten minutes
to the total and came out with about exactly 120 min = 2hrs!
This setlist would completely KICK MY ASS if it was played...but that's my
opinion.
-Loren
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:24:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Dream Theater Dates (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971008201522.26015A-100000@short-eared.owlnet.rice.edu>
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Rogerio Brito wrote:
> > Anyway, we need to get him interacting with us again, because unlike much
> > of the band, he respected how influential we are. It irritates me that we
> > didn't get one mention on FII, even though it was our petition that got DT
> > back in the studio.
>
> While I didn't get that upset (maybe I should say "sad") with the
> fact that the 'jammers didn't get mentioning this time. But it is ok. I
> think that we should never do someone a favor thinking about the reward.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I know that I signed the petition
because I wanted to demonstrate my support for DT, not because I was
hoping to be rewarded by being mentioned on FII. Sure, I would have
gotten a kick out of seeing the Ytsejam thanked, but I think all the
people bitching that the band doesn't love them need to grow up.
Mark McEuen
mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:42:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3084
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.971008214020.13197B-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
As per Mr. Jaison John's request...I would like to apologize on behalf of
my asshole little brother for posting the phone number for DT's management.
It was completelty uncalled for and he isn't even a Dream Theater
fan...he makes fun of them and says they have no talent and try to be
like Metallica..what do you want he is only 16...once again I apologize
and I will restrict his access to any e-mail access. Thank you
Dan
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:18:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Wes Foll <wfoll@america.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: question about Nevermore
Message-ID: <199710090218.WAA15476@web3.america.net>
>Last week was great for metal in NYC...saw NEVERMORE three times and
>DO NOT HESITATE to see NEVERMORE (the best $7 you can spend)..although
Speaking of Nevermore, isn't this the band that rose up from the ashes of
that old band called Sanctuary? I have one of I think only two Sanctuary
albums called Refuge Denied (that Dave Mustaine of Megadeth produced himself
and also played a guitar on the song White Rabbit--an old Jefferson Airplane
tune I believe) ANYHOOO, it seems that a lot of people have mentioned to me
that Nevermore has the core of guys that were in Sanctuary, a band I REALLY
like even for how "waileeeeee" the singer is hehe.
Anyways, even if they are related to one another, you all should check out
one of those old Sanc albums. The one I have sounds very much like "So Far,
So Good, So What" era Megadeth, so that is pretty cool hehe.
(btw, I'm also listening to Cryptic Writings as I write this, a pretty good
pseudo-progressive type of Megadeth sound---I LOVE it!)
See ya DT FREAKAZOIDS lata!
Beavis (Wes Foll)
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What is not, is not.
What is is, and is not, is is, and is not."
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:29:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: R: Elektra Web Site
Message-ID: <199710090229.WAA06424@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
> From: "Chad Allen Klunck" <cak6981@omega.uta.edu>
> Subject: It's A Miracle!
> Elektra has updated the DT page! I shit you not! :)
>
> http://www.elektra.com/metal_club/dream/dream.html
>
> And guess what? They spelled the name WRONG in the title bar of the
> browser. Imaging that...OFB can't even get their record label to spell the
> damn name right! There's lots of misinformation (e.g. the discography only
> lists 3 albums, the newsgroup address is still arastar, etc.), but there's a
> few cute group pics of the guys. Be sure to check out the "A little bit
> about us", as it's like an interview and the label's only serious attempt to
> say anything (nice) at all about the boys.
>
Not only that, but they _STILL_ have the link wrong to my page... and
they have links to a few other dead sites, and a _GOPHER_ site, didn;t
know anyone still ran a gopher site (including the one they have
listed). This is unbelievable. GOt a question, would it be
considered wrong to hack their site to fix it? :) Actually, now that
I check, the _only_ link on their page that will work is the one to
alt.music.dream-theater. This is unfucking believable!!!
--
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
| A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater |
| will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity |
| --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! |
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/
Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:10:22 +0000
From: "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT MANAGEMENT INFO
Message-ID: <199710090213.WAA31308@node1.frontiernet.net>
>> answer. Is Roundtable still managing DT, and if not, who is?
>
>I can honestly tell you that I'm not sure.
If I'm not mistaken (which I could be), DT's new management is
called D.P. Entertainment Ltd.
Oh yeah, KAI, $15 bucks isn't that big a deal for the fan club.
You get 4 issues of interviews and other stuff, AND a cd. I think it
was a very good deal for only $15. So join now, and you'll probably
get the next cd. But I know what you're feelin'. I've always
considered the Jam to be the 'real' fan club.
-Brian Anderson
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:52:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lupos site
Message-ID: <199710090252.WAA06502@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, just checked the Lupos web page (www.lupos.com) and the finally
have the date up there, and does in fact list DT on their page. They
are listed first, I sure hope that doesn't mean DT is opening, but
just a random order.
--
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
| A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater |
| will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity |
| --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! |
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/
Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 23:07:00 -0700
From: Martin R=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E9?=millard <rem.martin@sympatico.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fan Club
Message-ID: <343C7484.796D@sympatico.ca>
Hi jammers,
I want to subscribe to the Fan Club,
I would like to know if the New York address is still valid for people in
North America or do I have to send it to England.
An answer would be appreciated,
Rem
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 23:11:06 -0400
From: JB <beamup@vt.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: poop
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971008231106.007c3a50@192.168.255.1>
>Hey people,
> does anyone know if Poop is with DT on tour this time around?
>Andy
since defecation is still part of the human process, I would have to say
that poop will be with DT wherever they go....
<jason remains in his bitchy sarcastic mode>
Can you tell I've been programming again? :)
Lata,
Jason
p.s. thanks to the 4 of you who have let me know you've emailed the program
director here at VT (Jeremy Koren -- jkoren@vt.edu) about the prog show...
anyone who hasn't yet... help me out please!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 23:19:34 -0400
From: Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Attention Musicians - take my microphone..please!!
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971008231934.0070ae64@ct1.nai.net>
Hey I thought all you musicians out there on the 'jam might
be interested in the following item I have for sale:
For Sale:
SHURE Professional Microphone
Model: SM57-LC
Unidirectional Dynamic Microphone
Low Impedance
Comes with two 20' microphone cables...
Originally paid $125 for this mike...will sell for $75 firm.
This mike was never used..I bought it for recording with
my 4 track (guitars, etc.) but I don't have the time
to put into it due to school and work.....
If anyone is interested in this great mike please
email me at axe@ct1.nai.net
Thanks..
Tim
axe@ct1.nai.net
OBLIGATORY DT CONTENT:
Is it just me, or do the lyrics to ANNA LEE sound like the song is about
one of those homeless kids you see on the "Children's Fund" commercials
with Sally Struthers....???
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:40:13 -0700
From: "James Thorpe" <thirdhvn@community.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ACOS Project
Message-ID: <199710090331.UAA15629@odin.community.net>
>
> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 08:20:05 -0700
> From: Brandon Vaughn <vaughn_b@chipola.cc.fl.us>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: ACOS TAB (one file missing)
> Message-ID: <01IOK53PN4S80008EY@WIZARD.FIRN.EDU>
>
>
> Anyway, all you guitarists go to: http://www.snowhill.com/~bvaughn
>to get the files.
>
Great job on the Tab work!!! To all of you who had contributed,
Thanks!!! You guys rule.
peace,
--james--
third heaven studio
"Animation can explain whatever the mind of man can conceive"
-Walt Disney
"Eschew the normal, disdain the commonplace, if you
have a singular need for something, let it be the esoteric,
the unusual, the bizarre." -Chuck Jones (Looney Tunes)
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:41:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: No mention
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.971008233704.110094A-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
I too was surprised that there wasn't a mention of us in the liner
notes. I wouldn't have expected any except that ACOS sort of set a
precident in my mind. Especially given the whole petition thing. But
really, who cares? We should just take silent pride in the fact that we
were at least helpful in getting FII out. The public recognition would
only have been icing on the cake. I don't demand it, I don't expect it,
and such an omission will not stop me from helping DT out in the future in
any way I can.
Richie
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:00:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: attn LA area MEGADETH fans
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971008205231.24693A-100000@mcl.ucsb.edu>
I have a NON-CONFIRMED Megadeth show at the Ventura Theater
the day after Christmas. A friend who has a friend who works
there is the one who knows.
It wouldn't be too suprising considering MEGADETH hasn't done
a LA show for the Cryptic Writing tour.
once again, don't take this as gospel and don't flame me
if it doesn't happen.
laters
Conrad (by the way, I have waited everyday of my life for the
past 3+ years for the next DT show since the SF Awake
show. Pretty much safe to say I am pissed as all hell
that they are playing at a place 21+. WTF is up with
this club thing. From what I here, they filled the Palace
pretty well. I know they filled the Warfield(SF) well.
I just hope this is a warm up tour or something.
Anyways, the search for a id continues. Hopefully I can
use my brothers.)
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:12:28 -0400
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: voices@arastar.com
Subject: dreamt.org ....
Message-ID: <199710090412.AAA15093@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hi All ...
As some of you may (or may not) have noticed dreamt.org has
been having trouble over the last 24 hours or so. My ISP (where most
of dreamt.org is hosted) had to re-number its network yesterday and
that is causing the problems. Most things are catching up now and
things should be working MUCH better in the next 24 hours or so.
Skadz
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 23:10:08 -0500
From: Jay <darwin@bcl.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dale Newberry: Please Email Me
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971008231008.00e68760@mailhost.bcl.net>
Sorry to put this on the Jam, but I tried emailing you with the address
listed on the Jam and got user unkown. The address I used was
Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET as it says in your header. Please Email when you
get a chance.
Jay
darwin@bcl.net
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:17:52 -0400
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: voices@arastar.com, drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu
Message-ID: <199710090417.AAA15127@wicked.stigmata.org>
Dan Russell wrote:
> Here ya go folks..you can complain to Dream Theater's management in
> person via the telephone. The number is (212) 564-3290 and ask for
> Jason.
> LET THE PHONE CALLS BEGIN!!!!!! Any questions or results send me in
> private please...I already called....see ya!
PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The band is still in the process of finalizing all the tour plans and
that is the reason information has been slowing in coming. The only
thing calling the office is going to do is piss people off and slow up
the information flow even more. So, DO NOT be stupid and do this,
just let the information come as it does. If you wanna complain for
some reason, complain to me, I have links to the band and management
and I will make sure any complaints are addressed.
Skadz
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:28:21 -0500
From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Houston Show
Message-ID: <19971009042249459.AAA226@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
> know it *seems* like it's early to talk about this already, but before
>you know it, Dream Theater will be in the neighborhood. None of my
friends
>like DT, so if anybody wants to hook up for the Dallas, Austin, and/or
>Houston shows, e-mail me and we'll work out some kind of caravan deal or
>something. Considering some of those have to fall on weekdays, I probably
>won't be able to go to all, considering I'm a busy Computer Science major
>(a la D-Man, although several years behind him =).
>
>D. Ryan Whitaker
I'll be going to the Houston show (I live close enough). I'm interested in
hooking up there if you (or you guys) are going!
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:22:39 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: "That Darn Mailing List Thingy" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: gratitude
Message-ID: <19971008183049.AAA4303@sni.pananet.com>
OK, this all the thanks DT gave on FII to everybody:
A very special thanks to our family and friends and to all DT fans around
the world.
That's it. They didin't specifically mention their wives and childresn,
etc. They just said 'family'. Same way they didin't say 'ytsejam', but
'fans'. We are fans right? So we are thanked. Besides, that petition was
signed by many ppl that aren't even on the jam. AND we were already thanked
in ACOS...isn't that enough? Or do they have to thank us in every CD they
put out for the rest of their lives?
And i don't understand the whole kahooty w/ the free CD...we're doing this
here all comfy behind our computers for FREE. While the ppl in the fan club
payed a fee (and have their adress signed up there), so it'd completely
logical just to send it to them.
Beisdes, 15$ for a newsletter AND a CD? Why complain?
Ern
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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 00:39:20 -0400
From: Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971009003903.00964650@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Ok, I'm a little pissed...
Who's fucking idea is it anyway to always schedule DT's Toronto show right
in the middle of midterms (for most university students anyway)?
Fortunately I can make it to the show. But since I don't have a car it's
gonna be a real pain in the ass to take the bus to Toronto on the 29th, and
back on the 30th.
Which is why I write this... are there any other jammers sy the University
of Waterloo (or live in the K/W area) who plan on attending the show on the
29th who I could hitch a ride with? That would be really cool, but if not,
I'll somehow find my way there anyway. I must see DT live!
Cover my Eyes: If DT are looking for a "hit" single, why on earth did they
pick YNM over this? IMO, this song has "hit" written all over it. They'd
just have to get rid of some of the high notes James sings, and make the
chorus a bit more catchy (so bring in Desmond Child for that), but overall,
I think it's a much more "radio friendly" song than YNM...
** Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> **
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:33:02 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fan Club...
Message-ID: <199710090523.AAA12444@btiserv.btigate.com>
Don't kick my ass for this, I know it's probably in the FAQ
somewhere, but I'm not blessed with teh time to search for it again
right now... could somebody please post the info I need to join the
FC, I'd love a special FC CD, plus it just shows more support fro DT.
:)
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
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Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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