YTSEJAM Digest 3110
Today's Topics:
1) -gry words... NDTC
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
2) James too good for DT?; page update & CD information
by "David Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
3) hearing silence...
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
4) CD-R's and MP3's
by "John Hough" <jhough@mindspring.com>
5) Top 10
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
6) MiniDisc
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
7) I'm BAAACKKKK!!!
by JB <beamup@vt.edu>
8) MD for bootlegging?
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3109
by stephen botic <stoveb@execpc.com>
10) Re: TSO
by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
11) Re: Top 10
by Brandon Elhai <belhai@drew.edu>
12) Kevin Moore
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
13) WDATU
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
14) Website
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3109
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
16) TV High Pitched noise
by "Matt Mommaerts" <mattymo@inxpress.net>
17)
by Paul Dyer <dyer@taunet.net.au>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:50:44 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: -gry words... NDTC
Message-ID: <199710140540.AAA23844@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 13 Oct 97 at 16:52, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Can anyone help me with this riddle? I heard it over a year ago and still
> can't figure it out. The riddle goes: "There are three words that end in
> -gry . . . angry, hungry, and what? It is a word that you use almost
> everyday." Another version I have heard is that "if you have listened
> closely to what I have said, then you already heard the answer." Does
> anybody know what the answer to this stupid riddle is, or is it wrong.
Heh heh, the third is.... GRY. :) Look it up. :) I'd give you a
definition, but I don't have dictionary handy.
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
-----------------------------------
Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:42:57 -0500
From: "David Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: James too good for DT?; page update & CD information
Message-ID: <19971014054545.AAA26692@hombre>
I played FII for my girlfriend this past weekend on my visit home, and she
liked 'Hollow Years'. She also liked 'Just Let Me Breathe' but laughed at
James' voice. I quote, "He sounds like he's trying so hard to sound
'rough'! <laugh> His voice is too good to be in this band. It just
doesn't match up." (She did think his voice matched up with HY, though)
I've been working on her for nearly two years now, nearly force-feeding her
DT nonstop. It sounds as if she might cave in any day now. =)
Lately my page has been updated with a lot of new information on the
bootleg compilation discs I'm offering. Please go here if you're wondering
what "Seven Wonders," "Spinning Years,", and "Caught in Amsterdam '97" are
all about:
http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236
Later,
D. Ryan Whitaker
David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 00:54:19 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: hearing silence...
Message-ID: <3443090b3ebb006@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> Um..doesnt everyone hear this? I can tell easily... same when you get on
> a car that has everything closed out.. you can *hear* silence..like a
> shirpy noisy kinda shit thats really annonying
Silence truly *can* be deafening. I don't know if it's normal, or if it's a
combo of years of loud music and firearms, but when it's really quiet, my head
is filled with a loud drone...it even keeps me awake sometimes.
-Brian
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"I may have wasted all those years, but they're not worth their time in tears."
-John Myung of Dream Theater
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Dream Theater North American Tour pre-show gatherings info:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3771/dt.html
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:25:18 -0700
From: "John Hough" <jhough@mindspring.com>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CD-R's and MP3's
Message-ID: <01bcd869$f1631720$f53556d1@g_hough.qualcomm.com>
I have a question for anyone with a cd-r drive, has anyone tried to compress
a mp3 file in the
"WAV mpeg layer3 format" and put it on a music disc and see if it will play
on a regular stereo?
It compresses the file as a wav file and plays in all wav players on the
computer, so I figured I would give it a shot! It would be great if it
worked, 4-6 hours worth of stuff on one cd. Just a thought.
John Hough
jhough@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~jhough
GO PADRES!!!!!!!
Tony Gwynn wins 8th batting title --- 9/27/97 --- .374 (1st)
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:51:13 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Top 10
Message-ID: <199710140641.BAA26793@btiserv.btigate.com>
> There it is, let me know if you agree
Here's Mine:
10. Boston's Greatest Hits
9. Return of the Jedi - SPecial Edition SDTK
8. Johnny Lang - Lie to Me
7. Megadeth - Cryptic Writings
6. Styx - Retrun to Paradise
5. Final Fantasy VII - SDTK
4. Scorpions: The Mercurty Years
3. KMFDM - KMFDM
2.Dream Theater - FII
1. Poison - Crack a Smile bootleg
What a variety, eh?
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
-----------------------------------
Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:51:13 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MiniDisc
Message-ID: <199710140641.BAA26797@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 13 Oct 97 at 6:31, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > Whoo hoo! Another MiniDisc owner it's hard to find another person
> > with a MiniDisc player! Can you e-mail me a list of good downloads
> > for DT so I can record to MD as well? I LOVE my MD Player! :)
>
> I also own a minidisc , and have recorded the whole fii album from downloaded mp3
> files (I will still buy the album of course when it eventually gets released in the UK).
> I got these files from http://citadel.elender.hu/pod/rare.html, this site also has whole
> concerts in mp3 and are pretty good quality. One question though , How do you record your mp3's ? I normally just connect the line out from my sound card to the
> line in on the minidisc and record "analougly" , but I've heard that there is a card
> with a optical line out which can record digitally which would be ideal for recording
> to minidisc from a pc.
I've never seen such a card, but I do belive it exists. I just use
an analog cable for my recording. Even with a digital port, I'd
probably still use analog, as I have an 18-foot cable running between
my PC and stereo. :)
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
-----------------------------------
Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 02:45:27 -0400
From: JB <beamup@vt.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I'm BAAACKKKK!!!
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19970429024527.007cfac0@mail.vt.edu>
>> A moment of silence, please, at the death of the musical genius
>>John Denver.... :)
>
>Yea, John Denver was cool in his own way....I mean I'll listen to
>folk music any day over rap and that dance crap.........Too bad he
>had to die the way he did.........Dusty
you know... this is not a funny topic.. but I just can't help it... when I
first heard this news, I was listening to an old Monty Python Recording
(Contractual Obligation Album I think). About a minute after the girl on
headline news announced the death, the "Death of John Denver" sketch came
on... I almost shat myself... I couldn't stop laughing... (callous as I may
seem, it was pretty damn funny if you were there -- my roomate was the same
way)...
and... oh yeah...
>> can't fix it, unfortunately. (Unless you have a Turing EQ.)
> BTW, I don't know what a Turing EQ is, unfortunately.
could this have been a Turing Machine AI joke?
ugh, later, (you know you're an engineer when...)
Jason
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Jason Brindel
Computer Engineering '97
Virginia Tech
beamup@vt.edu
http://www.vt.edu:10021/B/beamup
(540)961-7262
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:57:10 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MD for bootlegging?
Message-ID: <199710140647.BAA27020@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 13 Oct 97 at 0:52, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> What it IS is a way to get re-recordable cd quality that you can
> use instead of a shitty walkman, so you can hear a bunch of your favorite
> tunes without bringing all your cds with you. I think it'd be reasonably
> useful as a bootlegging tool too, but there's no advantage I can think of
> that it has over the DAT in that respect.
Well, an advantage for booting over DATS would be price of a
recorder... a portable MD recorder will only run you about $500, not
like $1000 that I've seen DAT recorders for... plus they're smaller
and more undetectable than a DAT recorder, you could stick it in your
underwear if you wanted....
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
-----------------------------------
Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:55:51 -0700
From: stephen botic <stoveb@execpc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3109
Message-ID: <34433397.25A9@execpc.com>
Can I please get off of this mailing list please. Thank you
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 09:01:43 +0100
From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: TSO
Message-ID: <9710140801.AA05250@star2.star-ag.ch>
At 15:39 13.10.97 -0700, you wrote:
>>So they don't want to compete against themselves in December, but they
>don't mind in >January?
>
>Hands up those who are gonna buy a christmas CD in January ?
>How many jammers missed out on the CD, try getting it after xmas and
>couldn't get a copy ?
OK, this doesn't seem to be too easy: Not only will the TSO christmas CD be
re-released but a NEW CD will be out in January. This new CD won't be xmas
related but will be inspired by popular classic themes.
This is why holding back the Savatage CD until January really doesn't make
too much sense.
All righty? Merry XMas everybody <|8-)
Jan
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 03:16:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brandon Elhai <belhai@drew.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Top 10
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.971014031530.606456322B-100000@drew.edu>
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Andrew Fors wrote:
> Here's Mine:
One of the biggest ytsejam sins. NO TOP TEN LISTS OF ANY NATURE!
Brandon
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:32:24 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kevin Moore
Message-ID: <199710140722.CAA28488@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 12 Oct 97 at 16:04, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Just a question:
>
> How come Kevin did not play in ACoS??
Since I'm sure no one else will answer you politely, here's the
deal. After Awake, Kevin Moore left dream Theater over mostly
personal reasons. Derek Shenirian replaced him and is doing an
excellent job. You can hear his real skill on their nre album,
Falling inti Infinity.
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
-----------------------------------
Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:32:24 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WDATU
Message-ID: <199710140723.CAA28502@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 12 Oct 97 at 11:20, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Andrew Fors wrote:
> > soon. "Only a Matter of Time" is one of my fav. DT songs, and I'm
> > yeat to hear LaBrie sing it. Hopefully soon. Anyway, that's my 2
> > cents.
>
> You know, I was in the same situation 2 weeks ago. Don't expect too
> much.
> That praticular show was probably one of his worst shows ever....
> Status Seeker has a Myung mistake in the 1st verse,
> A Fortune In Lies has a Moore mistake,
> And The Killing Hand (Bahr, why did you cut "Another Hand" out?) is
> better on LATM....
>
> I love Status Seeker and Afterlife though....
Well, I'm expecting my CD soon. :) I'll judge it then. :) I still
do like Dominici's "Fortune in Lies" better I think. :) "Another Hand
- The Killing Hand" definitely is better with LaBrie I think. :)
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
-----------------------------------
Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:32:24 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Website
Message-ID: <199710140723.CAA28492@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 12 Oct 97 at 11:20, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> I haven't seen your site yet, so I don't know how much is there (seeing
> as it's under 'heavy daily construction'). What I do know, is that it's
> a *total* pain in the ass when people try to get into your webring with
> only a main page and a buncha links that say "404 File Not Found", when
> you click on them. Pages like *that* simply do not belong in a webring,
> until they are finished. So, if anyone on this list is working on their
> own Dream Theater site, do not try to join the webring until everything
> is working. It sucks having to turn you down. Also, the only person who
> can move your site from the queue into the webring is Nuggetman. As far
> as I know, there's no need for you to contact anyone, because Nuggetman
> *automatically* gets notified when you put your site into the webring's
> queue... Just make sure your website is working and also has the proper
> webring code and GIF. And for fuck's sake, try to be a bit original :-P
I know, Nuggetman wrote me aboutit. :) He'll ad me when it'sreadyI
believe. :) Progress is going well. I got my page up for "When Dream
and Day Unite" today. :) Also have a link to tour dates courtesy of
Ticketbastard. I am trying to make it original! I hate web pages that
copy other pages. Use some stuff, sure, but don't copy the design for
Christ's sake! :) It'll be nice when the Webmaster gets the damned
MIDI to work... *sigh* Damned "Windows is going to start mplayer"
shit is pissing me off!
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
-----------------------------------
Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 03:37:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3109
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.971014032417.52518B-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Also...re the long article about Atlantic....jeez, that's really scary
> isn't it? Shit, bands aren't beasts of burden. Good god...."work them
> harder?" *barf* that has to be one of the most crass things I've ever
> heard anyone say....
I'm not sure if I'm misreading what you said, so correct me if I'm wrong,
but I think there is a misunderstanding. "Work them harder" in this case
does not refer to putting the bands to work. When someone is "working" a
band, that means that they are actively promoting them. So "work them
harder" in this case actually means the desire on the side of the label to
promote the bands to a more effective degree. Actually, the part you are
referring to as "scary" is actually a good thing. A lot of major labels
release a lot of new products per year and while these albums receieve an
initial push, if nothing happens after several months, the labels will
move on to the next release, leaving the album to either sink or swim on
its own (it sinks most of the time). Thus, the statement that Atlantic
wants to work harder the bands that they have, as opposed to the "seeing
what sticks" method is a good thing because it allows for the current
roster and the select new bands to receieve more individual attention,
thus increasing the chances for success. Again, I might have taken what
you said the wrong way, but I just wanted to clear the air.
Richie
P.S. BTW, why on earth was that article posted here? I mean, _I_ enjoyed
it, but then again I'm into this kind of stuff.
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:44:24 -0500
From: "Matt Mommaerts" <mattymo@inxpress.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: TV High Pitched noise
Message-ID: <01bcd874$fde85900$2a0b10d0@mattymo.inxpress.net>
> With the talk lately of the television noise in SDV, I have a question.
Can any
> of you tell when a TV is on nearby? I can sense this hum, almost more of a
> feeling than a sound. Friends that I've mentioned this to think I'm nuts.
I can
> walk into a place, and if there's a tv on nearby, even in another room,
I'll
> know. Just curious if this happens to anyone else.
Yes, I can actually hear the sound of a TV screen. It is a very
high-pitched noise, and not everyone can hear it (kids are more
likely to be able to hear it than adults). Normally it is obscured
by background noise, but if it is the only sound in an otherwise
silent room, it is VERY annoying. To see if you can hear it, turn
your TV on with the audio muted, and eliminate all other sources of
noise. If you hear a high-pitched whine, that is the sound of the
screen.
-Paul
Well, as a TV Broadcast Engineer... I can geek out here. The high pitch is
actually the Vertical Scan Rate. It is 15,734.266 Hz in the U.S. For color
TV's of course. What this comes from is... The more "odd" numbers (ones
with decimal points) end up being there because they wanted to make color
compatible with the old B&W systems.
it used to be all rounded out with 30 interlaced frames per second (60
fields per second, 2 fields interlaced to make one frame). To make color
all compatible and stuff, they made it 29.94 frames per second. (Movie film
is 24 Frames per second) Each frame is made up of 525 1/2 lines. So if the
electron beam scans 525.5(rounded up) lines 29.94 seconds, you get
15,734.266 Hz. And that's that high pitched noise that you hear. If you
don't hear it... you should have worn Ear plugs at the last few DT shows you
went to.
As for this Mini Disc discussion I've been seeing... I did some papers on it
when it was first introduced. It is designed to replace cassettes and
that's it. It's not here to replace CD's, so they didn't try to make it as
good as CD's. As for my opinion... I've only heard them a few times, and I
think it's "good enough" I don't have golden ears, so I think it's fine!
Sure kicks the cassette's ass!.
CD-RW's. I really want one of these! I didn't know they were making
regular CD-players that can read these too. But from what I read... these
machines will make the normal CD-R's that have been around... as well as
with the CD-RW disks, so you can use it like a Jaz drive, or just another
hard drive (slower of course) and you can also burn those CD-R's of cool
stuff.
Well, that was boring, eh? sigh
What's up with people not requesting DT anymore? the first week I had the
CD, people called and requested stuff, now no one. I still play it, but
damn!!! I thought people liked DT on the radio! The other station in
town, well, the cool commercial station plays it in regular rotation! But
they only play BMS (that I've heard). I played New Millenium 2nite.
Back to 'Jam Skim Mode
Matt
P.S. to Milwaukee people... I called The Rave today, and they had what Mr.
Portnoy confirmed... November 3rd for the DT show!
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:38:44 +0900
From: Paul Dyer <dyer@taunet.net.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <1335271772-109718989@smtp.taunet.net.au>
>>Yea, John Denver was cool in his own way....I mean I'll listen to
>>folk music any day over rap and that dance crap.........Too bad he
>>had to die the way he did.........Dusty
I don't know that that was a bad way for hJohn Denver to die. I mean he
seemed to love flying didn't he? Then he ended up dying while doing
something he loved. I'd be happy to do that...
Anyway to any Aussie jammers....
i live in Darwin in the NT (where the music shops suck) and i'm interested
getting some vinyl. Any guitar based music but mostly prog through to black
metal. Some names of stores or private sales would be great. Please email
me direct so as not to jam the jam with my problems....
Cheers
Paul D.
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