YTSEJAM Digest 3118
Today's Topics:
1) NDTC, Roland GP-8
by "Iumentum" <alnygaar@online.no>
2) Shadow Gallery, Enchant
by sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu (Stephen LaMonica)
3) merry axemas
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
4) Re: Dt. in St. Louis?
by "The Real Space Cowboy" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
5) Re: Minidiscs, spelling... Ah, and some music stuff too.
by "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn73@erols.com>
6) Tempest/mindspring/DT songs that don't stick out
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
7) Lynx users, music response, fan club
by "Ken McWatters" <kmcwatters@hotmail.com>
8) Angra
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
9) Angra
by Paul Dyer <dyer@taunet.net.au>
10) JP in Guitar World
by Markus Stahl <stahl@primenet.com>
11) Nirvana interp.; Chicago DT show
by svjohnson@amoco.com
12) Re: Angra
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
13) FAQing Sheet!
by "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com>
14) Spocks Beard
by sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu (Stephen LaMonica)
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3117
by Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
16) No te vi guey!
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
17) Re:
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
18) ughhh...what lame lyrics
by jerome westfried <jerwest@bu.edu>
19) East Coast dates
by "Warlock" <musashi@musashi.gsgis.K12.VA.US>
20) Scandinavia????
by "Krister Mellum" <kristerm@online.no>
21) Re: East Coast dates
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:15:25 +0200
From: "Iumentum" <alnygaar@online.no>
To: "Ytsjejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: NDTC, Roland GP-8
Message-ID: <199710151318.PAA21220@online.no>
Someone offered me the Roland GP-8 real cheap, but is it worth the money?
Can someone who has it or tried it please tell me their opinion about it?
Sorry for the non DT-content... :)
Alexander
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:21:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu (Stephen LaMonica)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Shadow Gallery, Enchant
Message-ID: <199710151321.JAA13247@polaris.sju>
I read that you guys are looking for Enchant and Shadow Gallery cd's. You can
get them easiest at Tower Records....also look into Altura, they are another
decent band on the Magna Carta label....
Lastly, look into Clockwork, a philly band. You can order their stuff at
www.netti.fi/~japi Really great stuff
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 06:34:30 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: merry axemas
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-971015133430Z-58323@ms.Kallback.com>
Merry Axemas kicks ass!
Track list:
Kenny Wayne Shepherd-Rudolph the RNR
Eric Johnson-The First Nowell (sic)
Jeff Beck-Amazing Grace
Brian Setzer orchestra-Jingle Bells
Joe Satriani-Silent Night/Holy Night Jam
Steve Morse-Joy to the World
Steve Vai-Christmas Time is Here
Joe Perry-Blue Christmas
Alex Lifeson-The Little Drummer Boy
Richie Sambora-Cantique De Noel (O' Holy Night)
Hotei-Happy Xmas (War is Over)
Album Concept: Steve Vai
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:38:14 +0000
From: "The Real Space Cowboy" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Dt. in St. Louis?
Message-ID: <199710151338.IAA20164@Walden.MO.NET>
> My friends and i are going to see Dt in St-Louis. There are a lot of
> bootlegs concerning Dream Theater, are we permitted to bring tape
> recorders to concerts?
WHOA! Now, maybe I am a dumbass and just missed something, but are
there any dates for St. Louis yet? I don't remember seeing any.
Dale R. Newberry
"People think I'm insane because I am frowning all
the time." - Ozzy Osbourne
"Bein' crazy is the least of my worries."
-Jack Kerouac
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:52:06 -0400
From: "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn73@erols.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Minidiscs, spelling... Ah, and some music stuff too.
Message-ID: <01bcd971$860c0dc0$a1a3accf@laurengl>
>"CD-R's aren't the same as CD-RW's. From what I've heard about CD-RW's
>(which isn't too much), is that they won't work in most players except
>for
>the CD-RW's. It's not the fault of the discs, just the players. In
>time,
>newer players will probably be designed to play them."
>
> oops, I didn't notice that "W" after the "R". :)
> Is that what I'm thinking, a rewrite able CD? If it is, can someone
>(privately) explain how that thing works?
> Now, to a completely (well, not completely) different matter: I heard
>DVD's can read CD's, but can't read CD-R's, right???
Some can read them. Sony's DVD player does read them as well as
Video-CDR's. Pioneer's LaserDisc/DVD player can read audio CD-Rs, but not
Video-CDR's.
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:18:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Tempest/mindspring/DT songs that don't stick out
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.971015101121.10179E-100000@bdmserver>
Surely Tempest isn't prog metal. It is Celtic prog. If you like Jethro
Tull and prog then Tempest is for you.
I would hope Mindspring changes the johndenver link soon else legal
problems and pure disdain could occur. Just think how many people are
entering in http://www.johndenver.com and getting mindspring? Mindspring
is bound to get a bad rap from this.
I was thinking about all the James Labrie DT albums and for me there is
1 song on each that it is difficult for me to become familiar
with. I dont really know why because they are all great songs but anyway
the songs are:
Images&Words:Under A Glass Moon
Awake:Scarred
FII:Just Let Me Breath
I don't know if it is because there isn't anything catchy in those songs
or what...
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 07:23:22 PDT
From: "Ken McWatters" <kmcwatters@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: rcb@vectorbd.com
Subject: Lynx users, music response, fan club
Message-ID: <19971015142323.20202.qmail@hotmail.com>
A few topics discussed recently:
Bert Baldwin asked if we could repost tour dates from rsabbs.com/dt
since lynx users can't navigate the bitmap in the title page. I know
they've been posted so far, but for future reference, I'll note that for
this and similar sites all it takes is a bit more time to type out the
pages you want. The latest tour dates are currently on the what's new
page, while the tourdates page isn't updated yet. Anyway, the URLs
you want which are accessible with lynx are
http://www.rsabbs.com/dt/whatsnew.html
http://www.rsabbs.com/dt/tourdates.html
Clark Abel gave a discussion on how he thinks music like rap and
country is just background music for their fans, and doesn't really
touch them. I have to agree, except that some people just get into the
lyrics alone.. and who wouldn't get teary-eyed about the story of Clint
Black's dog gettin' run over? :) Seriously, I do think that you could
quantify this.. this music likely "touches" a smaller percentage of its
listeners than DT, classical, jazz, etc. The power of "our" kind of
music is undeniable. I don't go to many classical concerts, but after
one I saw of Shostakovich symphony no. 5 I think, I saw among
the people leaving the auditorium this older woman who was openly
crying. That's musical power, and sadly I don't think many country or
rap (or even some pop) listeners will ever understand it.
About the fan club, C-man, etc. Yes, I remember C-man. Maybe he gave
that stuff away because the official fan club(s) weren't as well
organized back then, and we were the quickest outlet for their
promotional goodies. I'm saddened too that we're no longer on the
gravy train here, but oh well. I do agree with Kai that we don't have a
"leg up" on information like we used to, because we lost our contacts
like Jim Pitulski recently... but I'm certain we'll get someone else
(maybe even C-man) on our side soon enough. :)
Ken McWatters kmcwatters@hotmail.com
URL: http://www.angelfire.com/tx/kmcwatters.html
Fave new song: Anna Lee!
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:29:27 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Angra
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971015122816.3205A-100000@hoare.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Blevins, Mike wrote:
> >Some Angra news that I read today stated that Columbia was considering
> >signing Angra. I had once heard Sony was. I wish some company would sign
> >them so we could get their cds cheaper than import price...
>
> Actually, Columbia = CBS = Sony. That rumor is alive and well, but I
> don't know if anything will come of it. Consider this, though - they've
> been putting out CD's or Ep's like clockwork, about every six months. I
> ahven't heard about anything new, and it's getting close to that mark.
> That COULD be because the're in negotiations... or not. Just something
> to think about...
They're just finished their world tour (Oct, 4th) and they plan to
put out another album at the first half of 1998.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:27:08 +0900 From: Paul Dyer <dyer@taunet.net.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Angra Message-ID: <1335160868-116389266@smtp.taunet.net.au>
I have only heard Angra on a Judas Priest tribute thingy where they do "Painkiller":
"Fasta than a lay-zer Boolet, Laooder than an Ay-tom BomB" (heh heh)
There very impressive to say the least. Any sugestions on what album to start with???
Also what are the jams opinions of the following:
1) Conception?? 2) Cynic?? 3) Arcturus??
BTW, my comment that Denver died doing something he liked wasn't supposed to be taken as it makes his death better...just that it's better than dying unhappy or doing something you hate and wish you weren't doing in the first place. ie Being subjected to non stop Oasis until death. I shudder at the thought...
Cheers Paul D.
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 07:53:17 -0700 From: Markus Stahl <stahl@primenet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JP in Guitar World Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971015075317.007a0770@mailhost.primenet.com>
I picked up the new issue of Guitar World based on the front cover showing a picture of Dave Navaro and Flea and saying they will be playing on the new Janes Addiction album. TO my pleasent surprise there was an article with John Petrucci in it. It wasn't very long but interesting nonetheless. At the end of the article it states that starting next month John will be a monthly columnist! What a surprise.....
In addition to the magazin they included a cd sampler or new music. On it are various groups like Sevendust, Life of Agony, Robin Trower, and most notable our very own DT with the song BMS, along with a little snipped of the band in the booklet that accompanies the cd. Now if that's not promotion? There is also a 1/3 page ad for the new album in the mag as well. So they are getting out there, we just have to make people listen....and listen hard!!!
At the local Tower where I picked up the mag DT was at #19 on their weekly chart and as far as I could tell there was only one copy of FII in the store. But to show you how smart my local tower is, they have both Enchant and Divine Regal in the thrash/Death metal section! Thats all for now....
....see everybody in Hollywood on the 11th!
-Mark
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 09:57:58 -0500 From: svjohnson@amoco.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Nirvana interp.; Chicago DT show Message-ID: <199710151457.AA18555@interlock.amoco.com>
Hey alll! I completely disagree with this interpretation of "Smells." It is EXACTLY about being in your twenties. And looking back at your last few years. The whole grunge movement is about the disenchanted collegiates/post-collegiates left in a society "crippled" by the excess of the 80s. Nothing left for us when it's our turn to be living on our own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Keep in mind I'm not a Nirvana fan) The song is supposed to be about the angst of being a teenager - admittedly a little bit of a reach for guys in their twenties - but it conveys this emotion very clearly, as well as some anger and frustration. Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, too much text for Nirvana on this list. Has there been a meeting set for Jammers at the Chicago show? I'm pushing way up front. I'll probably be the only Black/Italian person there, so I'll be easy to find. :) Steve
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:06:27 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Angra Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971015135910.3895A-100000@hoare.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Paul Dyer wrote:
> I have only heard Angra on a Judas Priest tribute thingy where they do > "Painkiller": > > "Fasta than a lay-zer Boolet, > Laooder than an Ay-tom BomB" (heh heh) > > There very impressive to say the least. Any sugestions on what album to > start with???
Very hard to know.
They have two albums and one EP (I'm talking about widely know albums, not about the Evil Warning EP). The two albums are called "Angels Cry" and "Holy Land". AC has some similarities with "Keeper" era Helloween, if you know them, but AC has more classical music influences. HL has even more classical music influences (for instance, it starts off with a song composed by a Renascence composer called Giovanni da Palestrina). But it also has some of our brazilian rhythms. The EP is called "Freedom Call" and it has the Judas Priest tribute that you heard, and some cool versions of some songs, live songs etc.
> Also what are the jams opinions of the following: > > 2) Cynic??
Well, I'm also interested in this band. Any albums are recommended??
[]s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:18:57 -0500 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FAQing Sheet! Message-ID: <199710151118570630.02954209@smtp.enteract.com>
>From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com> >Subject: Date Service >>From: GGarces239@aol.com >>Does anyone have the dates for Texas? > > Yeah. E-mail d-man@dreamt.org
In case anyone was wondering, Merlo DID e-mail me a copy of the FAQ for= that. :)
- CWP http://www.prognosis.com/madsman someone@prognosis.com Go Home and Practice
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:33:22 -0400 (EDT) From: sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu (Stephen LaMonica) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spocks Beard Message-ID: <199710151633.MAA01251@polaris.sju>
Can anyone tell me about this Spock's Beard band? Is there any way to buy it in a Tower Records or something, or do I have to mail away for it...I have been hearing great things about them. One other thing....has anyone had a similar experience(I think I read one earlier this week)? I recently played Hollow Years for my girlfriend, and now she loves DT. She has borrowed(which in girl language means stolen :) ) all of my DT CD's! Just wondering if I am the only one who has experienced this "mysterious phenomenon" :)
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:03:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3117 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95q.971015125248.17428B-100000@markov.math.uwaterloo.ca>
> I go for the Killing Hand, but instead run into Eve... then it hits me, > Derek is a good keyboardist, but he just doesn't have the feel of Kevin > Moore. Kevin was just a phenomenon at writing. I just now realize how > much Kevin's influenced will be missed in Dream Theater's music.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who feels this way (though the last time I brought this up, I was flamed). Derek is a great keyboardist, and a great player... and I really like the jazz influence in some of his writing.
BUT... I just can't see Derek ever writing something that rivals Eve, WFS, or SDV. Or some of Kevin's keyboard parts within other songs (like OAMOT).
I mean, shit, Eve is just such a cool song. I don't know how to express the way I feel about it though... it's not my favourite DT song, and it's not the most complex... it's just different, and awesome. IMHO, of all the individual aspects of DT's music, Kevin's writing was the most original and most unique thing about DT.
Anyway, Derek is still cool, and DT still rule, but I don't like hearing this "Derek's playing is great, he totally fills the void", etc. stuff that some people have said, because I really don't think you can compare Derek's playing to Kevin's. DT aren't quite the same band now (but that doesn't mean they're any worse/better).
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:09:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: No te vi guey! Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.971015120616.13820A-100000@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
=09Hey, Marcelo, no te vi en la clase de intrduccion. Bueno, al=20 menos no vi a nadie con gorra de DT. Todavia crees que me puedes=20 conseguir el FII? Una pregunta mas: no fuiste tu hace un a=F1o a san=20 antonio a un concierto de g3, con otro guey (un guero) y el Monta=F1es? =09Escribeme en privado =09=09Mauricio
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:16:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.971015141442.10626B-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
nOK, I have to chime in here. I am blind and as a result, my hearing is more refined than others. It isn't better, just more refined. I can say that I can tell when a TV is on, and the sound that is produced is almost painful t my ears. It was especially bad in high school when the teacher would turn the tV on just before showing a video. I was in sheer pain from the high-frequency tone that was sounded. Nobody else heard it, though, and I was laughed at as a result, but still... I bet if I listened hard enough, I could tell the pitch of the sound.
Reach Damon Fibraio at damon@shell.monmouth.com keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality Deviant of Reality All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars. Neil Peart of Rush
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: jerome westfried <jerwest@bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ughhh...what lame lyrics Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.971015142443.37602A-100000@acs4.bu.edu>
Ok...I'm a new poster. I like DT a lot, and I think FII is a really good album and all...but when I saw someone include the line "how can you keep your head and not go insane when the light at the end of the tunnel is another train." I just got sick...it's just a lame re-enstatement of a David Lee Roth lyric that he used on the Skyscraper album. Plus, DLR phrases it much better..."when the light at the end of the tunnel is the front of an oncoming train." FII is very listenable album, musically, but the lyrics are the lamest. But I guess no-one listens to DT for the lyrics.
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:31:47 +0000 From: "Warlock" <musashi@musashi.gsgis.K12.VA.US> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: East Coast dates Message-ID: <199710151842.OAA29988@musashi.gsgis.K12.VA.US.>
Have any east coast tour dates for the FII tour been released? Namely in the Virginia area? -Chris "Have a good Drown as you go down all Alone. . . . . .dragged doen by the stone" Pink Floyd, "Dogs"
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:41:27 +0100 From: "Krister Mellum" <kristerm@online.no> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Scandinavia???? Message-ID: <199710151842.UAA20392@online.no>
When does DT come to Scandinavia????
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:48:38 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: East Coast dates Message-ID: <199710151848.OAA18151@stimpy.cs.wm.edu>
> > Have any east coast tour dates for the FII tour been released? > Namely in the Virginia area?
Congratulations, Chris. You just earned a FAQ. -Chris
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