YTSEJAM Digest 3122
Today's Topics:
1) ACOS TAB Project
by "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com>
2) A hypothetical situation....
by Loren Caler <lcaler@flash.net>
3) Re: Superior - Behind , Fix for '96
by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
4) DT Not on 'til midnight in providence
by Paul Drapeau <drapeau@cs.uri.edu>
5) Re: www.johndenver.com
by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
6) Re: A hypothetical situation....
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
7) Mindspring - Again...
by "Adam" <alpineone@mindspring.com>
8) all caps urls
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
9) Re: A hypothetical situation....
by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
10) Re: DT Not on 'til midnight in providence
by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
11) Re: A hypothetical situation....
by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3121
by Buck Stodgers <stodgers@nations.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3112
by "Parker" <domine.mortis@usa.net>
14) Road Trip for DT?
by JE78674@ltu.edu
15) Oncoming trains...
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
16) Nirvana ripoff...
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
17) X-Mas music
by kylania <kylania@radiks.net>
18) johndenver.com
by kylania <kylania@radiks.net>
19) 2112, the band
by "Parker" <domine.mortis@usa.net>
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:10:36 -0500
From: "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ACOS TAB Project
Message-ID: <199710160317.WAA28873@frost.snowhill.com>
Just to let you guys know two things:
1) I have Petrucci's copy ready to be sent off. Will get that in the mail
this weekend. I'm sending him the Bucket O'Tab version. Keep your fingers
crossed that a) he'll get it, b) he will approve, and c) he'll send back
corrections.
2) The TAB files can now only be found at Kevin Hammers sight. I haven't
sent him an update to part I (which contained one typo). I'll let you know
when that is available. Find the files at:
http://www.getaway.net/khammer/acos/
Kevin has plans for a Dream Theater TAB Project site (which will contain
tabs for guitar, bass, drums with improved MIDI). If you would like to be
involved or have ideas, please email either of us.
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__\/__ "The Mad Tabber"
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:20:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Loren Caler <lcaler@flash.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A hypothetical situation....
Message-ID: <199710160320.WAA15817@endeavor.flash.net>
Now this is just like the title says: A HYPOTHETICAL situation.
I was just sitting here listining to WDADU and was thinking to myself, "What
if Kevin Moore, after hearing FII, decided he wanted to come back to the
band?" What would the group say? I mean he is after all an original
member. I'm curious, if I was in the band, what I would think. Be a pretty
strange situation don't you agree?
-Loren
Now playing : Mew Millennium (Boy am I getting good at spelling that)
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:29:20 -0500
From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Superior - Behind , Fix for '96
Message-ID: <19971015222920.56673@Jupiter.mcs.net>
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 07:18:24PM -0700, Timothy P. Shough wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> A few people have mentioned Superior in the past week or so, and I
> remember hearing a lot of great things about the band when I was last on
> the 'jam in 1995 (great to be back!). I haven't seen any postings by
> Bernd Basmer or Jason Skewes, so could someone tell me how to obtain a
> copy? Muchos gracias.
You can find everything you need from their web pages:
Bernd Basmer
http://gaia.owl.de/~fine/superior.html
Jason Skewes
http://www.startext.net/homes/jskewes/superior.html
-- Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring------------------------------
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:29:13 -0400 From: Paul Drapeau <drapeau@cs.uri.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Not on 'til midnight in providence Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971015232913.0069f7c8@cs.uri.edu>
Just an FYI for all you people going to the Providence show friday...
My house-mate just got off the phone with WHJY Dream Theater will not be going on stage until midnight at the Lupo's Show...
I personally think this whole 1 hour set thing is bullshit but what can you do?
-Paul
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:46:04 -0500 From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: www.johndenver.com Message-ID: <19971015224604.05575@Jupiter.mcs.net>
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 08:10:01PM -0700, Tim Lodge wrote: > Suprisingly enough, I got a reply today from the 'terms of service' guy > at MindSpring... > > Here is the reply: > > >Hey Tim, > > > >Let me explain something. When we first started hosting domains, we had > >folks that would just register a domain, and use it for email. For > >example, if you sent something to joe@johndenver.com, it'd go through to > >whomever own the account, via Mindspring. > > > >Since these domains were just for email, they needed to have a DNS entry, > >so that mail would find its way there. Therefore, if you put in a domain > >name in your web browser, and we hosted it and it was for email, it would > >bring up our homepage. Not just johndever.com, but any others we hosted. > >We do not do this for new domains, but several domains have been > >"grandfathered" in. It's just the way DNS worked for virtual domain > >hosting.
Suppose I'll finally pop in here....
In their defense, they don't point new domains to their server (that's a good thing), and they can't just change the way something works on a customer (see his "grandfathered" in). There were (still are?) several ISP's that did this same sort of setup (I believe Earthlink does this). I personally don't like this and they don't need to do it for supporting email (they don't even need an IP address assigned).
The domain is owned by Art Jackson (according to InterNIC), not MindSpring, so they are correct when they say they don't own it.
Therefore I would recommend NOT sending all your disgust messages to MindSpring. This would be the same as someone emailing hate letters to your ISP because you had registered the domain name mikeportney.com and then he died.
-- Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:40:10 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: A hypothetical situation.... Message-ID: <19971015174218.AAA21973@sni.pananet.com>
> I was just sitting here listining to WDADU and was thinking to myself, "What > if Kevin Moore, after hearing FII, decided he wanted to come back to the > band?" What would the group say? I mean he is after all an original > member. I'm curious, if I was in the band, what I would think. Be a pretty > strange situation don't you agree?
Well, first of all, i don't think Kev would do that even if he wanted to, unless DT were looking for a new keys-man. If he actually went ahead and did that, i'd say no because
A) he left the band suddenly, right before a major tour...kinda sucks dontcha think?
B) It'd a great diss on Derek, especially after he's integrated into that band and added so much to their sound.
It would suck to say no to friend, but at the same time, him trying to get back in all of a sudden would kinda suck as well.
Kevin ain't comin' back:) I'm really looking forward to hear chromakey though. (Even though I'll probably have grandchildren by the time it comes out.
Ernesto
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:47:55 -0400 From: "Adam" <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mindspring - Again... Message-ID: <01bcd9e6$4969b0a0$4c2079a8@wingate.mindspring.com>
>Ok..I believe them.. -NOT!-
Alright, to clarify once again for those who don't know how DNS works - the guy who wrote this message is obviously among them. When someone registeres for Domain Hosting through Mindspring, or any ISP, and doesn't put a page up but just uses the domain name for email, guess what comes up. The default homepage for the host of that domain - in this case mindspring.com. It's generally not a good idea to flame anyone or anything until you actually know what you're talking about. Jesus...
Adam
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:47:13 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: all caps urls Message-ID: <01IOUR6UQWMC003E4U@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
doh!
I actually *knew* about the case sensitivy of the file name, and simply funked up when I gave it to you guys. Thanx to all who reminded me...
on the other hand, all y'all who answered the index.html question: I am forever in your debt.
Joshua Rasiel rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:57:19 -0500 From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: A hypothetical situation.... Message-ID: <19971015225719.32900@Jupiter.mcs.net>
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 08:35:22PM -0700, Loren Caler wrote: > > Now this is just like the title says: A HYPOTHETICAL situation. > > I was just sitting here listining to WDADU and was thinking to myself, "What > if Kevin Moore, after hearing FII, decided he wanted to come back to the > band?" What would the group say? I mean he is after all an original > member. I'm curious, if I was in the band, what I would think. Be a pretty > strange situation don't you agree?
Honestly? I would at most let him guest play on one song, probably. I think Derek is doing a great job with Dream Theater, and it wouldn't be fair to him to suddenly say "Sorry, Derek, but Kevin's coming back...it was nice while it lasted...don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." Don't get me wrong, though, I think Kevin Moore is awesome. The only way I would let him back in the band as a full member, though, is if Derek decided to leave, or the rest of the Band didn't think he was cutting it. However, I feel the latter is far from the truth (and also hope he doesn't have any plans of leaving anytime soon).
I really like Derek's influence on FII. It brings a welcome change (IMHO) to Dream Theater's sound, and I can't wait to hear what they will come up with next. I can't say Kevin is better or Derek is better, just that they are different and create different influences on the sound.
I just hope that due to many people's less then favorable view of FII because of the different style, doesn't cloud their judgement of how good Derek is.
On a related note, however, I think FII kicks ass and it is a welcome addition to my Dream Theater library. (I'm still going to probably have to say Awake is the fav for me, though).
-- Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:02:05 -0500 From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT Not on 'til midnight in providence Message-ID: <19971015230205.06387@Jupiter.mcs.net>
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 08:50:07PM -0700, Paul Drapeau wrote: > > Just an FYI for all you people going to the Providence show friday... > > My house-mate just got off the phone with WHJY Dream Theater will not be > going on stage until midnight at the Lupo's Show... > > I personally think this whole 1 hour set thing is bullshit but what can you > do?
Bummers. I saw Dream Theater on the Images & Words tour in Toledo at some club (Roxanne's or something like that). Galactic Cowboys opened up, then their was something like a 1 hour pause between bands and DT came on at midnight and jammed until around 2 in the morning (made that 3.5 hour drive back so I could get to my 7am job real fun!).
-- Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:05:35 -0500 From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: A hypothetical situation.... Message-ID: <19971015230535.39361@Jupiter.mcs.net>
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 09:03:05PM -0700, Ernesto Schnack wrote: > > Kevin ain't comin' back:) I'm really looking forward to hear chromakey > though. (Even though I'll probably have grandchildren by the time it comes > out.
Has anyone tried a petition to get Kevin to release ChromaKey? ;)
-- Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 23:54:51 -0700 From: Buck Stodgers <stodgers@nations.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3121 Message-ID: <343F22BB.3E1B@nations.net>
Hello, Two quick notes: 1) The girl I started dating down here listens to Phish, Widespread Panic, and the like. I played BMS and PS for her and she liked it. She also likes QR's Promised Land CD and Type O now. Dear God, I may have another convert on my hands... 2) I second the query for Spock's Beard album info. Is this mail order only? Private mail please. Thanks all! -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:stodgers@nations.net To view the list: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ytselist.txt -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://idt.net/~rmerri9/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:stodgers@nations.net **************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:02:10 From: "Parker" <domine.mortis@usa.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3112 Message-ID: <ww03-BJPeck2767@netaddress.usa.net>
Skip this if you don't want to see someone let off some steam. > We got ragged on in the biweekly email list SFK (note I did not > write this, so dont flame me): > > start----- > Can someone explain to me why Dream Theater fans are so anal? In > the DT newsgroup/mailing list they've been falling all over > themselves to rip apart and over analyze the new album, which I > think is great. Over indulgent threads from the use of the word > "baby" to Desmond Child helping out make these DT fans look as > bad as Trekkers! - AWRIGHT!!! Now not only am I anal AND hyperpretentious, but I'm being quoted by some nit I don't know on an email list I probably wouldn't give two shits about on a comment I made half-jokingly only 2 or 3 days ago. Since I only rejoined this list within the past week, I must have done it only for the sheer joy of tearing into the new release with a pack of fellow rabid transcribers agonizing over whether JM is playing a G or a G# at 5m12.6s into Trial of Tears. What does SFK stand for, anyways? Stupid Fucking Kids? - Rant mode off Dom`ny
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:13:28 -0400 (EDT) From: JE78674@ltu.edu To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Road Trip for DT? Message-ID: <01IOUS5OLX4O9354X8@LTU.EDU>
Hey, if any of you guys are going to want to come to Detroit, there are about 10 of us from here getting together for the show. Let us know if you want to hang with other Jammers in Detroit!
Later,
Jeff E.
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 23:35:37 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Oncoming trains... Message-ID: <344599985e58442@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
> good album and all...but when I saw someone include the line "how can you > keep your head and not go insane when the light at the end of the tunnel > is another train." I just got sick...it's just a lame re-enstatement of a > David Lee Roth lyric that he used on the Skyscraper album.
Ummmm, wrong. DLR may have used it, but it's an old saying - he was just as guilty of ripping it off as DT is. And BTW, I often listen to DT for the lyrics. Not to say that the music isn't great, of course.
Also, the intro of You Not Me reminds me of Vaseline by STP.
-Brian
******************************************************************************** "I may have wasted all those years, but they're not worth their time in tears." -John Myung of Dream Theater ******************************************************************************** Dream Theater North American Tour pre-show gatherings info:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3771/dt.html ********************************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 23:36:57 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Nirvana ripoff... Message-ID: <344599e65e58471@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Just a quick note about Nirvana and their crappy music. Not only does their song "Rape Me" have ridiculous lyrics, but the riff is ripped off from a Gwar song...and I mean ripped off. Note for note, same rhythm.
-Brian
******************************************************************************** "I may have wasted all those years, but they're not worth their time in tears." -John Myung of Dream Theater ******************************************************************************** Dream Theater North American Tour pre-show gatherings info:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3771/dt.html ********************************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:37:41 -0500 (CDT) From: kylania <kylania@radiks.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: X-Mas music Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.96.971015233459.22155A-100000@sr.radiks.net>
Hi all, sorry if these are repeats.
I got Merry Axemas and TSO today. Best Buy had 19 copies of TSO, but not on the shelves.. they had them in back. Still got my copy though!
Anyone else notice how much Satch's tone during the Silent Night Jam matches JP's tone? Pretty cool.. almost sounds like JP in some parts!
Well.. back to Lands of Lore...
Dave -- "They just took away all my promises, make them take away my pain. You took away my hero. Will you take away my pain?" -J. Petrucci for J.E. Petrucci
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:49:26 -0500 (CDT) From: kylania <kylania@radiks.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: johndenver.com Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.96.971015234138.22155C-100000@sr.radiks.net>
> >just host it. > > > >Jeff Pabian Terms Of Service/Abuse Engineer > >Mindspring Enterprises, Inc. abuse@mindspring.net > >http://www.mindspring.com/aboutms/policy.html > >404.815.0770 800.719.4664 > > Ok..I believe them.. -NOT!- > > .Tim
Tim,
Please. Not only do I work for an ISP, and can assure you this is EXCATLY how some ISPs work virtual domains, but I have talked to Jeff before and he's a great guy, he's helped me deal with abusive users from Mindspring before. Lay off Mindspring if you don't understand how the internet works. You want someone to complain to, complain here, ask The Arthur Jackson Group why they registered johndenver.com YEARS ago, but leave Mindspring alone. They are one of the best national providers and don't need uninformed users tarnishing their name (some of their users are doing a good enough job already).
The Arthur Jackson Group (JOHNDENVER-DOM) 4279 Roswell Road #102-111 Atlanta, GA 30342
Domain Name: JOHNDENVER.COM
Record last updated on 26-Mar-97. Record created on 14-Jun-95. <<---- Note when it was created!! Database last updated on 15-Oct-97 05:15:24 EDT.
Dave -- "They just took away all my promises, make them take away my pain. You took away my hero. Will you take away my pain?" -J. Petrucci for J.E. Petrucci
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:56:55 From: "Parker" <domine.mortis@usa.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 2112, the band Message-ID: <ww03-BJPe542680@netaddress.usa.net>
I'm curious if anyone can tell me what I missed tonight because I was lucky to have 2 quarters to rub together and not the $2 I would have needed to go see 2112 (Rush tribute band), along with Simon Bar Sinister (pretty cool local band) and Little Green Men (never heard of them). Any opinions on these guys abilities? Dom'ny
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