YTSEJAM digest 3123

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Oct 16 1997 - 10:08:54 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) cursing?
     by Chris Daley <cdaley@gmu.edu>
      2) Yes "Yes II"
     by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
      3) Superior on the jam
     by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
      4) Try Bismarck, ND radio....
     by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
      5) Learning to Breathe?
     by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
      6) GF's and DT
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
      7) Re: Try Bismarck, ND radio....
     by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
      8) Re: GF's and DT
     by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
      9)
     by Paul Dyer <dyer@taunet.net.au>
     10) Hollow Years
     by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE>
     11) Re: Hollow Years
     by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
     12) Re: what do you get....
     by "Vee Harwell" <vharwell@coggins.com>
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3121
     by "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com>
     14) DT-Show 05/18/93
     by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
     15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3106
     by Rahel Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch>
     16) JOIN UP FOR DT-SHOW IN EUROPE!!!
     by Rahel Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch>
     17) Opeth
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
     18) A sad, sad day!
     by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:59:21 -0400
    From: Chris Daley <cdaley@gmu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: cursing?
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971016005918.007ee100@mason.gmu.edu>

    Hmm...wonder why some people are worked up over the 'fuck' in BMS.... did
    anyone have a fit when they sung 'can't let them rape me again' in Scarred?
    Chris. (two liner!) :>

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:00:39 -0400
    From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Yes "Yes II"
    Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971016010039.006cd814@pop.wam.umd.edu>

    >Hey-
    > Whoever wrote this:
    >>Upon review of the info at this link, the question arises in my mind.
    >>Their new studio album (not "Keys To Ascension II") is called "Yes".
    > Is wrong. THe new is not called "yes." Go to the Notes from the
    >Edge homepage and read all about Yes.

    Yah, but it would be funny, wouldn't it? If one is to look at the website
    I (being the 'whoever') pointed out -- it says it's called "Yes", twice
    actually. Here's the quotes if anybody didn't feel like checking for
    themselves. It's labled as "OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE!", and who's to *not*
    believe an exclamation point? Ah, the quotes...

    >The new disk, titled simply YES, is due on November 25th on Beyond Records,

    >"This is another great chapter in the saga of Yes," says long-time member
    Chris Squire. "We came of age in the '70s and had a rebirth in the >early
    '80s. And now with our new album, Yes, we're feeling stronger as a unit
    than we have in a long, long time. And I think it's going to be >contagious."

    So I go to Notes From The Edge, and, apparently all that's been changed
    now. My info was out of date, I'll admit it. The new title is "Yes Yessy
    Yes Yes The New Yes Album Yessum Yessiree". I kid you not (although, IMHO
    that's a lameass title - put me on the record, there, bookkeeper). And
    Roger Dean, since he's now in the hospital with testicular cancer, was
    forced into letting his five-year old son, Dean "The Drooling Machine"
    Dean, do the cover art in his place. Dean Dean's work has been compared in
    many artsy circles to that of a young Jackson Pollack on a wicked acid
    trip. Either that or Kikomiko, New York's own Painting Gorilla. See, this
    is research I should've done in the first place *before* I made a fool of
    myself in public! I apologize for wasting everyone's time...

    Brian Henderson
    hender@wam.umd.edu

    "Broccoli, get me some rope." -- Grasshopper Man

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:00:08 +0100
    From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Superior on the jam
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971016080008.00809cb0@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>

    Hi all!

    As there were a few people mentioning our band and talking about
    that they wouldn't know what's up with us... here are a few news
    about SUPERIOR. :)

    We are still working at the new songs for our 2nd album that will
    probably be out in March/April next year. We'll be in studio again
    in January and record 11 songs for this one. I don't know 'til now
    if they will all appear on the CD but at least 10 will definately
    be on it. We wanted to go to studio in December but this wasn't
    possible for some reason.

    In November we'll do a tour with Vanden Plas in France. Two
    weeks on the road again. Finally! :) Maybe we'll be able to
    add another concert in Italy (Milano) but that's not confirmed
    'til now. For tourdates have a look at our site at
    http://gaia.owl.de/~fine/superior.html

    If there are any questions about the band just feel free
    to email me at basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de

    DTC: I still love FII. :)

    Bye

    Bernd

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    | | Bernd Basmer |
    | _I_ | Guitar - Superior |
    | <*,*> | |
    | [( )] | For Info about Superior have a look at: |
    | -"-"- | http://gaia.owl.de/~fine/superior.html |
    | Punk Owl | |
    | | http://www.hlti.fi/~opk/bernd/ |
    | | Email: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de |
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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:46:10 -0600
    From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Try Bismarck, ND radio....
    Message-ID: <199710160636.BAA21865@btiserv.btigate.com>

    > I live in Austin TX and hve yet to hear bms here. I happened to be taking
    > a trip through Dallas last week and did not expect to hear dt there either.
    > But during my drive through DFW between 2:00--4:00 am last Thursday morning
    > I heard bms on both kegl and qtxq. I was elated!! I couldn't believe it!
    > OH, and BTW: Austin radio sucks!!!!!

       Try living in Bismarck, North Dakota. We don't have a fucking rock
    station! We only have this classic rock bullshit and they won't play
    DT beacuse it's too heavy. Yet they play some Metallica. What a bunch
    of lamed braine shitheads. I bet if they gave it a chance.....
    Andrew Fors
    afors@btigate.com
    http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
    -----------------------------------
    Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
    Centers our perspective
    And pacifies our cries
    Sometimes the anguish we survive
    And the mysteries we nurture
    Are the fabrics of our lives

        "Lines in the Sand"
            Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:46:10 -0600
    From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Learning to Breathe?
    Message-ID: <199710160636.BAA21870@btiserv.btigate.com>

      Has anybody else noticed the re-used keyboard 'riff' in Just Let Me
    Breathe from "Learning to Live?" It's used right at the end, sounds
    to me just like the one used in "Learning to Live" as well as "Wait
    for Sleep." Somebody tell me I'm not crazy. :)

       
    Andrew Fors
    afors@btigate.com
    http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
    -----------------------------------
    Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
    Centers our perspective
    And pacifies our cries
    Sometimes the anguish we survive
    And the mysteries we nurture
    Are the fabrics of our lives

        "Lines in the Sand"
            Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity

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    Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:59:05 -0700
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: GF's and DT
    Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-971016065905Z-60865@ms.Kallback.com>

    >She has borrowed(which in girl language means stolen :) ) all
    >of my DT CD's! Just wondering if I am the only one who has experienced this
    >"mysterious phenomenon" :)

    Just be greatful that she likes DT!
    That would be the coolest thing to have a GF/SO that likes DT!

    Or even a GF.

    Gotta go join Lowered Expectations,
    Trevor

    >
    >

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:09:53 -0500
    From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Try Bismarck, ND radio....
    Message-ID: <19971016020953.20917@Jupiter.mcs.net>

    On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 11:53:41PM -0700, Andrew Fors wrote:
    > Try living in Bismarck, North Dakota. We don't have a fucking rock
    > station! We only have this classic rock bullshit and they won't play
    > DT beacuse it's too heavy. Yet they play some Metallica. What a bunch
    > of lamed braine shitheads. I bet if they gave it a chance.....

    Metallica has gotten to that stage where they are as acceptable as your
    every day "pop" music by radio stations and to them is no longer considered
    "metal" (because NO...they couldn't play metal!). Megadeth has sortof
    gotten to this stage, too. I hear Metallica so much on Rock 103.5 here in
    Chicago that I can hardly stand them anymore. (*groan* ... "not ANOTHER
    Metallica song!"). Besides, they usually only play the later stuff (Load,
    Black album). Where's the Kill 'em All, RTL, or MOP?

    Anyway, I have to recommendations for anyone in the boonies...download that
    real audio and check out one of the following:
            http://www.hardradio.com
            http://www.rebelradio.com

    For Rebel Radio, Dream Theater is listed in their play list (and they seem
    to be pushing them a bit, note the "Keep an eye on these heavy hitters!!!"
    section of their playlist - http://www.rebelradio.com/playlist.html ).
    Plus you can always call them up and request it.

    -- 
    Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org
    Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring
    

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:12:58 -0500 From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: GF's and DT Message-ID: <19971016021258.08762@Jupiter.mcs.net>

    On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 12:06:14AM -0700, Trevor W. Hoit wrote: > > >She has borrowed(which in girl language means stolen :) ) all > >of my DT CD's! Just wondering if I am the only one who has experienced this > >"mysterious phenomenon" :) > > Just be greatful that she likes DT! > That would be the coolest thing to have a GF/SO that likes DT! > > Or even a GF.

    Haha....hear ya there. That same DT concert I mentioned a few posts back, I asked this girl out that I went to it with and got shot down. *sigh*. She's now married.

    Some guys have all the luck... ;)

    -- Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:07:19 +0900 From: Paul Dyer <dyer@taunet.net.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <1335097257-120215123@smtp.taunet.net.au>

    Christopher P,

    Thanks for the info on Angra I might just have to 'invest' in both albums to satisfy my tastes.

    You seem to know a lot about a lot of bands!

    I didn't mind the new Conception album. I mean, it's no "in your Multitude" by any stretch of the imagination. I also like the singer <Roy Khan??>. He has a powerful but 'real' voice.

    I love Cynic. Everything you said was true.

    As for Arcturus, the lead guitar is by a bloke named "August" who is in some Norwegian Prog band (who's name escapes me). it is, however, blistering. Another band of that style (but not so shredding)is a Swedish Band called "Opeth". Have you heard?? If so what did you think??

    Cheers

    Paul D.

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:37:51 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hollow Years Message-ID: <344650EF.BBE@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>

    Hi

    Dose anybody know the release date for Hollow Years single in Europe ?

    Will "Where Are You Know" be the B-side ? I hope it so much.

    ------------------- BTW, my top 10 albums of the week :

    1)Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity 2)Fates Warning - Parallels 3)Royal Hunt - 1996 4)Jean Michel Jarre - Zoolook (24 bit digital remastered) 5)Shadow Gallery - Carved In Stone 6)Genesis - Calling All Station 7)Enchant - A Blueprint Of The World 8)Tony Macalpine - Permonition 9)My Dying Bride - The Angel & The Dark River 10)Tangerine Dream - Rockoon

    ARASH

    P.S. My Page don't work because the Server is down :-(((((((((((((((((

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://lionel.kr.fh-niederrhein.de/~ashouria/index.htm | | | | by Arash Ashouriha | | | | ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de | --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 97 10:53:42 +0100 From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Hollow Years Message-ID: <9710160953.AA03283@star2.star-ag.ch>

    >Hi >Dose anybody know the release date for Hollow Years single in Europe ? >Will "Where Are You Know" be the B-side ? I hope it so much. > ------------------- >BTW, my top 10 albums of the week : > > 1)Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity .. >10)Tangerine Dream - Rockoon > > xxx@xxx.de

    Here we go for the FAQ. Holy shit, those stupid Krauts. Yes, I may say so, because I'm one of them myself. Being a programmer, too, I really got it hard. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------ - Jan Ziese - +49 (0) 7738 / 99 858 - jzi@star-ag.ch - ------------------------------------------------------------------

    Don't take this too serious, OK? Just trying to get some fun out of EVERYTHING... ------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------------------------------------------------------- --- -- Jan Ziese - jzi@star-ag.ch -- -- - -- STAR AG - Wiesholz 35 - CH-8262 Ramsen - Switzerland -- - -- -- Tel.: +41 (0) 52 - 742 92 51 - Fax: 742 92 92 -- ---- ------------------------------------------------------------ ----- ------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:55:10 -0400 From: "Vee Harwell" <vharwell@coggins.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: what do you get.... Message-ID: <97Oct16.075005edt.18434@whessoe.coggins.com>

    -----Original Message----- ]From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 7:55 PM Subject: what do you get....

    > >>"what do you get when you stick 50 programmers in a room?" > >Bored to tears, more than likely. (I'm a programmer. I'm allowed to say >nasty stuff like that about them. :)) > And at least 25 arguments......

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:25:28 -0500 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3121 Message-ID: <199710160725280720.06E60651@smtp.enteract.com>

    >From: Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: www.johndenver.com

    >Ok..I believe them.. -NOT!- > >.Tim

    This has gone on long enough. You have no idea how domains work, sir.= I've worked at an ISP for over a year, and what Mindspring said is= EXACTLY the normal way of doing things. They risk legal repercussions if= they were to take that domain down, since it's ownedby a user. If you= can't afford full virtual hosting, and you want to run a web page off a= domain, most ISPs offer what's called domain aliasing, which means they= alias domain "X" to their own domain, so that you can use= http://www.domainX.com/~username as your web page. There is nothing= abnormal or immoral about what Mindspring's doing, and besides, it doesn't= belong on the jam.

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 97 14:28:03 +0100 From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT-Show 05/18/93 Message-ID: <9710161328.AA12889@star2.star-ag.ch>

    Weird question:

    I'm actually listening to an italian DT bootleg CD called 'Dream out loud' (Where do they always get those names from?). Pretty decent quality, pretty good performance, pretty nice LaBrie-blunders :)

    What I'm interested in is if any of you happen to know where the show took place. It just states 'NY' on the cover, and I think James at one point says something like 'Come on Buffalo'. Could that be? Maybe one of you was even there? The date was 05/18/93, Galactic Cowboys being opener.

    BTW, at one point James says: "I don't know, is it just me or this guy here is third class with the guitar?" :)

    Hope this isn't in the FAQ :) Thanks, Jan ================================================================== = Jan Ziese = +49 (0) 7738 / 99 858 = jzi@star-ag.ch = ==================================================================

    ------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------------------------------------------------------- --- -- Jan Ziese - jzi@star-ag.ch -- -- - -- STAR AG - Wiesholz 35 - CH-8262 Ramsen - Switzerland -- - -- -- Tel.: +41 (0) 52 - 742 92 51 - Fax: 742 92 92 -- ---- ------------------------------------------------------------ ----- ------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:45:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Rahel Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3106 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971016144214.20252A-100000@dwarf.studi.unizh.ch>

    Hi there I'm looking seriously for anyone from Europe who would be interested to visit one or more of the DREAM THEATER SHOWS in Germany if the band is gonna play any dates in december. Who would join me??? Accomodation in youth hotel, at another ytsejammers(?), in the train while riding it etc... I'M LIVING IN SWITZERLAND, AM 23 YEARS OLD.

    please contact me under choonkang@the.site.ch allow some time for replay, I'm on the net once or twice a week.

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:49:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Rahel Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: JOIN UP FOR DT-SHOW IN EUROPE!!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971016144852.20252B-100000@dwarf.studi.unizh.ch>

    On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Rahel Choon-Kang Walther wrote:

    > Hi there > I'm looking seriously for anyone from Europe who would be interested to > visit one or more of the DREAM THEATER SHOWS in Germany if the band is > gonna play any dates in december. Who would join me??? > Accomodation in youth hotel, at another ytsejammers(?), in the train while > riding it etc... > I'M LIVING IN SWITZERLAND, AM 23 YEARS OLD. > > please contact me under > choonkang@the.site.ch > allow some time for replay, I'm on the net once or twice a week. > > >

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:59:44 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Opeth Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971016105434.13188A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Paul Dyer wrote:

    > Another band of that style (but not so shredding)is a Swedish Band called > "Opeth". Have you heard?? If so what did you think??

    Yes! Yes! Yes!

    Reeeeeeeally cool material. The songs are darker, atmospheric, melancholic, depressive. If you're ok with that and with black metal-ish vocals and don't mind hearing *a lot* of acoustic guitars among your heavy metal, definitely get "Morningrise". Masterpiece. I'm writing an Opeth Homepage and I'll put it on-line really soon (I hope).

    Hope this helps, Roger...

    P.S.: I recommended Opeth to many people and everyone keep telling me that Opeth is growing on them. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:19:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A sad, sad day! Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.971016081421.34117A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>

    Hey 'jammers! I've been quiet lately because I'm perpetually 21 jams behind. (That's the limit on my e-mail account before it won't run any programs and says I'm OVERDRAWN. ;) But anyway, I just wanted to know if I'm the first one in this category: crushed FII tape. Yes, my loving husband taped me a copy so I could listen to it in the car (he keeps the CD 'cuz he has a car CD player :P ), and I've been listening to it since the 23rd. Well, last night my player refused to even rewind past a certain point. I was stuck in traffic, so I figured I'd look at it. The tape was bent, crushed, and otherwise mangled for about 20 feet. I don't know what happened! So has anyone else burned through a tape yet? Btw, honey? I need a new tape. ;)

    -Nicole/Kirby

    Nicole Rene Stachowicz McWatters | The sleep is still in my eyes Undergrad Professional Writing Major | The dream is still in my head University of Houston-Downtown | I heave a sigh and ... smile stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu | And lie a while in bed. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039 | Kirby on irc.dreamt.org | "Soliloquy" _2112_ by Rush

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