YTSEJAM Digest 3121
Today's Topics:
1) Roadtrip to see DT!
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
2) what do you get....
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
3) check out my dt page (the right url this time)
by mclarry <mclarry@iwvisp.com>
4) DT being LISTENABLE?? haha!!! : )
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
5) Re: New Ytsejam shirts
by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
6) Superior, ordering Angra, and some more stuff
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
7) Road Trip
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
8) Free!!! 125 sex channels when u join
by dianesextoy@13526.com
9) Singing in Angra
by edwilk@juno.com (Ed Wilk III)
10) Bootlegging, in general
by edwilk@juno.com (Ed Wilk III)
11) Superior - Behind , Fix for '96
by "Timothy P. Shough" <hounddog@nji.com>
12) Re: Free!!! 125 sex channels when u join
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
13) Re: Free!!! 125 sex channels when u join
by Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
14) Therion
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
15) Wake Up! CD for sale (Dream Theater)
by "Matt Wilson" <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net>
16) Re: Those lucky guys whose girlfriends like DT
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
17) Not called "yes"
by Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
18) www.johndenver.com
by Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net>
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:08:24 -0400
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, vanyel@crl.com
Subject: Roadtrip to see DT!
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971015190824.0068c6d8@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Paul quoth:
>If any Atlanta/Georgia/Southeast US Ytsejammers are interested in
>roadtripping up to see the Nov. 1st Chicago show -- it's a Saturday
>show, hooray -- please send me email. Mark Peters, Phil Carter, Eric
>Marlett, others who have emailed me recently, whatcha wanna do? :)
Yo. *raises hand* I'll go. Probably shouldn't (I can't really afford it)
but for Ged's sake, we never get any decent prog concerts round here (Fates
didn't play round here, I haven't seen any DT tourdates, and I'll bet my
copy of "Dead Winter Dead" that Savatage won't be touring anywhere near
here either).
Plus, the idea of hanging out with other 'jammers who listen to prog music
WILLINGLY (as opposed to my friends, who seldom do except when I force
them) -- well, the idea kind of rocks. I can see a van full of 'jammers
(the Notorius B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y. would probably be up for the trip --
Mark, you've got a van, don't you?) blasting down the road with DT
shattering windows of nearby cars. Heh, heh, heh.
Paul, I would've mailed this to you, but -- well, I work at an ISP, and
we've been getting all sorts of complaints (well, okay, only six different
ones) lately from people who haven't been able to access crl.com --
bouncing email, pings/traceroutes not accepted, the works. So I wanted to
make sure you'd see this.
Cheers,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who
no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired,
gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
Currently playing: Hilary Stagg -- "Sweet Return"
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:48:58 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: what do you get....
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971015194856.00694e44@mail.ici.net>
>"what do you get when you stick 50 programmers in a room?"
Bored to tears, more than likely. (I'm a programmer. I'm allowed to say
nasty stuff like that about them. :))
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_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________
E-Mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator ICQ: 2049374
______________________________________________________
There cannot be a crisis today; my schedule is already full.
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:02:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: mclarry <mclarry@iwvisp.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: check out my dt page (the right url this time)
Message-ID: <199710160002.RAA02773@odin.ax.com>
Ok this is the right url
http://members.tripod.com/~illusivedreams/dream.html
and this is my bands webpage
http://members.tripod.com/~illusivedreams/
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:10:31 -0700
From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT being LISTENABLE?? haha!!! : )
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971015171031.007ea830@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
>From: jerome westfried <jerwest@bu.edu>
>Subject: ughhh...what lame lyrics
> Ok...I'm a new poster. I like DT a lot, and I think FII is a really
>good album and all...but when I saw someone include the line "how can you
>keep your head and not go insane when the light at the end of the tunnel
>is another train." I just got sick...it's just a lame re-enstatement of a
>David Lee Roth lyric that he used on the Skyscraper album. Plus, DLR
>phrases it much better..."when the light at the end of the tunnel is the
>front of an oncoming train." FII is very listenable album, musically, but
>the lyrics are the lamest. But I guess no-one listens to DT for the
>lyrics.
Wow. I dont think that when I was new on the jam that Iwould have had the
gonads to post this.
Chances are that when he wrote the lyrics to the song, MP knew that he was
paraphrasing the words of another, in this case, David Lee Roth. He is
pretty knowledgable about other peoples music...There is no restriction for
using similar ideas in different contexts. Hell, lets face it, pretty much
EVERYTHING has been written about. Kinda reminds me of what my trumpet
teacher said to me a while ago. "The trumpet has been around for a long
time. Pretty much every technical study that could be written has been
written." So an overlapping of ideas in art, specifically music, is bound
to happen once in a while. We are all humans, we all think alike, so one
thought isn't necessarily copyrighted the second it is expressed.
BTW, did I mention that I COMPLETELY disagree with you about lyrics? : )
If you want powerful lyrics, listen to a song like TAMP, Voices, SDV, PS,
and so on. I wouldnt be able to stop if I were to start blabbering about
LTL. Now THERE is a powerhouse of emotion. So just because New Millenium
doesnt float your boat doesnt mean that DT sucks at writing. I tend to
think that DT's greatest asset (other than technical ability) is their
ability to write thought provoking lyrics.
And DT being *_LISTENABLE_*? hehe, Bush is "listenable". Hanson is
"listenable."
Dream Theater is more than listenable, and I dont particularly want to get
into this, but I trust you understand my gist.
IMHO, of course : )
Jon
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:51:16 -0500
From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: New Ytsejam shirts
Message-ID: <19971015195116.11191@Jupiter.mcs.net>
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 04:21:03PM -0700, RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU wrote:
>
>
> I have the design for the back of the new ytseshirt on my page, everybody go
> take a look and gimme your opinion! it's at www.j51.com/~mrasiel/another.htm
Great, but you saved the file in ALL CAPS (so it's
http://www.j51.com/~mrasiel/ANOTHER.HTM). I do like the new design,
though! :).
> Also, quick html question, I'm sure at least 80 billion of you know this, so
> if just *one* of those answers me, I'll be content: How do you get it so when
> you type in the URL the HTML file automatically comes up? I have to keep the
> file w/the address, or you'd see a funky FTP listing. Anyone?
Depends on your server. Typically, you'll need to name it index.html, or
index.htm (or default.htm if it's a fresh Microsoft install). Judging by
the home page of that server, you need "index.html".
-- Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring------------------------------
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:19:16 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Superior, ordering Angra, and some more stuff Message-ID: <3402D7D4.5C959D1D@geocities.com>
Hey there jammanoids,
> ------------------------------ > From: JB <beamup@vt.edu> > Subject: Stratovarius/Angra/Superior > Also, Superior... I've heard the clip of "Why", and rather like it... but > it's only a 50sec wav file, and I'd like to get a better listen before I > buy (with Shadow Gallery/Enchant/Angra I've had at least 3 clips to listen > to) Any opinions of Superior fans... any other clips people have/willing to > make?
I'd tell you to buy it immediately, 'cause it rulz. :) 50sec of "Why" is about nothing, that song is 10min long... :) Anyway, if you want a sound clip, I have a small (about 1,5 min) sample in my page. I'll put the link to the zip file, as everything there is in portuguese: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/superior.zip (it's in RealAudio, so it's a kinda small archive). About Stratovarius, "Abyss of your Eyes" is from "Visions", and the live version of "Uncertainty", if I'm not mistaken, is a bonus track of one of the versions of "Visions" (my bonus track is an AVI video of "The Kiss of Judas"). The album is great, I think everyone should take a look at it.
Also, to that guy who tried to find Angra: the only place on the INet I saw something from them was at German Music Express (www.musicexpress.com), but the prices are HIIIIIIGH.
I'll be ordering some stuff withing these days... Among the, Jason Becker, Matry Friedman and Symphony X, probably. And, Itchy, sorry, I'll order at CD Connection, it gives me the lower final price (price, S&H, and, most of all, TAXES around here...)
I'm in a writing mood now... :) To that guy who asked what Angra album to buy: buy anyone, they're all great stuff. Whatever one you chose, you won't be disappointed.
I've been visiting DR. Mosh's Ear Candy, and getting some stuff... Therion is quite interesting, although I think they could make a more mature sound. Their ideas are great, but can be better developped. Ah, of course, IMHO. :)
-- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* vanzin@geocities.com *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:44:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Road Trip Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971015184343.6852A-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Greetings for the first time in a long while, Are any northern California Jammers planning on trecking tO LA for the House of Blues show? If so, contact me privately at mattb@mbay.net. Thanks. Be well. Matt B
"No man is an island? Pok. Rubbish! Every one of us is an island. If it were not so, we should go mad at once. Between these islands are ships; airplanes; telephones; wireless; what you will, but they remain islands. Islands that can sink or disappear forever." (John Fowles, The Magus)
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 97 18:39:22 EST From: dianesextoy@13526.com To: Friend@public.com Subject: Free!!! 125 sex channels when u join Message-ID: <812312\123234237736128736.com>
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:44:24 -0400 From: edwilk@juno.com (Ed Wilk III) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Singing in Angra Message-ID: <19971015.215455.9902.2.EdWilk@juno.com>
>p.s. does the singer from Angra ever use his natural voice for more than 5 >seconds at a time? Not a criticism, it just sounds like 95% of the time >he's in falsetto to me.... still cool stuff though... love the music. >"Never Understand" is a great song...
Hey there.. Andre Matos, Angra's singer, uses his real voice a majority of the time. Supposedly he's a tenor, but he's got a great higher range..
Ed-San
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:46:02 -0400 From: edwilk@juno.com (Ed Wilk III) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bootlegging, in general Message-ID: <19971015.215455.9902.3.EdWilk@juno.com>
>Heh, unfortunately... no usually... so sneak that shit in! :)
Well, I've never booted a show, and don't plan to until I get to the DT show in Boston. :-) But, for any experienced bootleggers out there, what are some good recorders to use, and shit like that?
Ed-San
"People in prayer for me\Everyone there for me; Sometimes I feel I should face this alone; My soul exposed; It calms me to know that I won't." - John Petrucci
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:06:27 -0700 From: "Timothy P. Shough" <hounddog@nji.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Superior - Behind , Fix for '96 Message-ID: <3445A0D3.65E4@nji.com>
Hello all,
A few people have mentioned Superior in the past week or so, and I remember hearing a lot of great things about the band when I was last on the 'jam in 1995 (great to be back!). I haven't seen any postings by Bernd Basmer or Jason Skewes, so could someone tell me how to obtain a copy? Muchos gracias.
On another subject, is Fix for '96 worth getting? I really like FII (the background vocals are some of LaBrie's best) but miss the sustain and vibrato characteristic of his prior efforts. Before FII, it was obvious that LaBrie had studied opera, but the vocals on FII seem a little stale in comparison. How does FII compare? Any input is appreciated. Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:09:56 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Free!!! 125 sex channels when u join Message-ID: <199710160209.WAA19841@tx.cs.wm.edu>
> 110 WILD XXX RATED LIVE CHANNELS
Oh my goodness! Now the spammers are hanging out on IRC! Nothing is safe! (If you don't get it, you had to be there.) -d
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:10:44 -0500 From: Cappy <mgjones@Mcs.Net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Free!!! 125 sex channels when u join Message-ID: <19971015211044.23742@Jupiter.mcs.net>
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 07:01:56PM -0700, dianesextoy@13526.com wrote: > > STOP PAYING BY THE MINUTE!! .......FOR ONLY 5 BUCKS YOU GET > 110 WILD XXX RATED LIVE CHANNELS > 12 MULTIPLE GIRL CHANNELS - 2 CHANNELS OF REDHEADS AND BRUNNETTES [blah blah...]
Wha? Do they jam Dream Theater during the act or something??? :)
-- Mike Jones, mgjones@mcs.net __________ Cappy _________ cappy@progmetal.org Progressive Genius ( http://www.progmetal.org ) Progressive Metal Web Ring
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:18:23 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Therion Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971016001400.11504A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Marcelo Vanzin wrote:
> I've been visiting DR. Mosh's Ear Candy, and getting some stuff... > Therion is quite interesting, although I think they could make a more > mature sound. Their ideas are great, but can be better developped. Ah, > of course, IMHO. :)
Therion kicks major ass. You know nothing about music. :-) (just kidding -- remember when I said that I didn't like "Awake" and you'll underdstand).
Next time you came here at home I'll show you the entire album you comprove that "Theli" is one of the most interesting things that you may have heard. The opera vocals fit so well with rock that it is simply impossible to describe.
Get it and you'll see for yourself.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:22:08 -0400 From: "Matt Wilson" <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Wake Up! CD for sale (Dream Theater) Message-ID: <01bcd9da$4d639100$72bc440c@matt>
Hi Ytsejammers, The setlist for Wake Up! is as follows: CD1 (50:19) 1. Pull Me Under 2. 6:00 3. Take The Time 4. Caught In A Web 5. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream 6. Instrumental
CD2 (56:40) 1. Instrumental 2. The Mirror 3. Lies 4. John Myung's Happy Birthday 5. Another Day 6. Erotomania 7. Voices 8. The Silent Man 9. Metropolis (Part One)
Recorded live at the Urawa Bunka Center, Saitama, Japan, January 24th, 1995
$45.00
Seroius inquiries only please
E-Mail: Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net
Thank You For Your Time.
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:28:33 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Those lucky guys whose girlfriends like DT Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971016002454.11504C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, alex fraser wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Christopher R. Merlo wrote: > > > Two or three days later, I asked her what she thought about the > > > tape and she said that she liked some of the things I put there (Rush's > > > "Tears" for instance), but said that those Dream Theater songs were kind > > > of repetitive. :-) > > You're better off without her. :) > > just a little public service anouncement: > > don't *ever* listen to Chris Merlo when he gives advice about women (even > though he happens to be correct here.) honestly, there's no way he could > know squat about women. after all, if he did he'd already be dating his > roommate... right? ;)
Well, actually, I'm not with that girl anymore. She told me that she was not interested in our relation anymore, blah, blah, blah. But not being with her has its advantadges:
- I'm wasting *way* less money; :-) - I can go home after classes hearing to APSoG; :-) - I have more free time. :-)
[]s free :-), Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:57:49 -0500 From: Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Not called "yes" Message-ID: <199710160251.VAA115790@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Hey- Whoever wrote this:
Upon review of the info at this link, the question arises in my mind. Their new studio album (not "Keys To Ascension II") is called "Yes".
Is wrong. THe new is not called "yes." Go to the Notes from the Edge homepage and read all about Yes. Keys II is still coming out this fall along with another Yes album featuring Billy Sherwood. _____________________________________________________ "Pessmism protects me; limp hope won't let me down" -Enchant _____________________________________________________ Ryan Good - Music Stapher from WSUM - Madison's idea of College Radio! - The Unofficial-Official Madison Progressive Rock Monster Home - 608-285-8695 Radio - 608-262-1206 "Madison Student Radio: It's coming!" WSUM/MSR Homepage: http://msr.wisc.edu
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:50:59 -0400 From: Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: www.johndenver.com Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971015225059.00729524@ct1.nai.net>
Hi everyone... Upon learning of Mindspring Internet's use of the www.johndenver.com web site I emailed them in disgust at what appeared to be a publicity stunt aimed at john denver mourners...
Suprisingly enough, I got a reply today from the 'terms of service' guy at MindSpring...
Here is the reply:
>Hey Tim, > >Let me explain something. When we first started hosting domains, we had >folks that would just register a domain, and use it for email. For >example, if you sent something to joe@johndenver.com, it'd go through to >whomever own the account, via Mindspring. > >Since these domains were just for email, they needed to have a DNS entry, >so that mail would find its way there. Therefore, if you put in a domain >name in your web browser, and we hosted it and it was for email, it would >bring up our homepage. Not just johndever.com, but any others we hosted. >We do not do this for new domains, but several domains have been >"grandfathered" in. It's just the way DNS worked for virtual domain >hosting. > >Now let me ask you something, do you really think that we would use >johndenver.com to sell our services? We have over a quarter million >users, with nationwide coverage, national marketing campaigns, so why >would we try to cash in on the mourning John Denver fans? > >Needless to say, we are not taking down the domain. We do not own it, we >just host it. > >Jeff Pabian Terms Of Service/Abuse Engineer >Mindspring Enterprises, Inc. abuse@mindspring.net >http://www.mindspring.com/aboutms/policy.html >404.815.0770 800.719.4664
Ok..I believe them.. -NOT!-
.Tim
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