YTSEJAM Digest 3095
Today's Topics:
1) WHOA!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) Another Setlist
by Christopher Bellardine <chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
3) Re: gratitude
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3094
by Chris Ptacek <someone@prognosis.com>
5) Savatage thread
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
6) DT Tour dates URL
by Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
7) Skyway of Nightmares (Not the bootleg...)
by Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
8) DT in Switzerland??
by "Pedro Ordonez" <pedrord@quik.guate.com>
9) Chart position in Norway
by "Einar B. Gilberg" <einarg@colargol.idb.hist.no>
10) Re: Is it just me or what?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
11) Divine Regal/TI's Black Umbrella
by Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
12) Re: Divine Regal/TI's Black Umbrella
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) Re: Musical Tastes and Schtuff
by Clark Abel <99able@alma.edu>
14) Re: gratitude
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
15) LitS, NM, Boston CD stores
by "Kristof Redei" <totikus@hotmail.com>
16) Titotol
by "Kristof Redei" <totikus@hotmail.com>
17) Sorry....
by "Kristof Redei" <totikus@hotmail.com>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3094
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:58:25 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WHOA!
Message-ID: <199710101858.LAA24863@gms.gmsnet.com>
What is this? Skadz volunteering his services??? Don't you get enough
e-mail you mutherfucka?!?!?! HAHAHHA
-The Doc
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 97 14:59:20 EDT From: Christopher Bellardine <chris154@clam.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Another Setlist Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.876509960.chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
Metropolis New Millenium Scarred Take the Time YtseJam (with Drum Solo) Surrounded Another Hand?Killing Hand Lines In The Sand Mirror/Lie Burning My Soul Hells Kitchen ACOS (about 15 mins. worth) Take Away My Pain Afterlife Pull Me Under To Live Forever Trial of Tears (with Extended Guitar and Keyboard Solo) Encore:: Wait for Sleep/ Learning to Live
DT question of the Day:: Did you ever find yourself in a musical conversation with someone you barely know (let's say at the local gym or bar), and you instantly ask that person if they have ever heard of DT? Next thing you know is that they haven't, and you are now bragging about them and in essence promoting them. You find yourself becoming really disappointed by the groups they mention (ya know the average shitty but high selling groups), and you get a real resentment towards radio because DT is SO fucking underplayed on the radio. I actually get pissed off by this. When someone tells me how good a group like Blurr is or Oasis, I want to break out my collection of DT, and Mechanically restrain them to a chair while I play EVERY fucking piece of DT material I have. Hopefully by the end of the musical session, they will never even attempt to tell me how good one of these high selling piece of shit bands are. Oh, yeah: I think I am becoming obsessed with DT, and I may need therapy for this issue or maybe a 12 step program (YtseJammers Anonymous).Enough already out of me, I gotta go get those mechanical restraints.
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 12:04:56 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: gratitude Message-ID: <199710101904.MAA24918@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Eric Rodger said: > > >You guys are seriously missing the point. Sure, I can afford $15. And
No KAI, YOU are missing the point, you're fucking NOBODY, that's the point.
No one owes you shit, pull the fucking Johnson Easyflow bottle outta your mouth. I didn't know you like powdered milk...
I don't need to tell you how long I've been on YTSEJAM. And we did this for the love of the band and the music.
>yeah, I'll probably join the fan club just to get this year's little bonus. > The real point however, is that I feel we are the fan club. But I can't >get any of you to agree with me. Maybe most of you haven't been on here
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:24:28 -0500 From: Chris Ptacek <someone@prognosis.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3094 Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971010192428.00bb26f4@pop.enteract.com>
>From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) >Subject: who da fanclub
That was a perfect post.
>From: Chris Daley <cdaley@gmu.edu> >Subject: Is that guy wearing a blouse??? > > I don't know who asked the original question...but on JLMB at around 1:13, >the sample is echoing what James had just sung, "Step right up folks" >I'm sorry if this question has already been answered... but atleast this >message is short, right? :> >Chris.
I was under the impression that this was sort of a joke (The "Is that guy wearing a blouse?" thing). That sample you're referring to in JLMB, is clearly saying "Step Right Up, Folks".... sounds sort of like Billy Crystal to me.
>From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> >Subject: Re: Status Seekers > >I want to let it be known that Chris and I have been crossing emails (some >private), and that I consider it all water under the bridge. He threw some >nasty personal attacks at me publicly, as did a few other people, namely >Graham. But after calming down and weeding through the insults for the >relevant information, it's become obvious that it was me who blew up first, >and got really bitchy about the subject, and in turn, didn't post very >intelligently. I stand by my point of view, but it looks pretty obvious >that I'm the minority here now.
I'm glad to see that some people can accept an apology and move on, rather than trying to use things against others and attempt to earn pity. I too stand by everything I say, with the exception that I should have been more polite in my post, so I wouldn't feel like vomiting when I read this stuff. Seriously though... no hard feelings, but the opposing viewpoint had to be shared, Kai. It simply should have been done in a more civil manner initially (like in my SECOND post).
Take Care
- CWP
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:59:53 -0400 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage thread Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971010195953.006af4c8@pop.pipeline.com>
Mike, guitarist stage left, said: >The reason I got was, since there are no bonus tracks or anything, the >label in Japan wanted the time to sell the domestic version of it, >without the US import undercutting the price.
Ah, wouldn't it be nice if that were the case here? If imports were cheaper than domestic releases? I realize the price issue involved here; it's just odd to read that an import cd costs less than a domestic one somewhere in the world.
Hopefully they will sell copies of the cd at the show. I know. Doubtful. I did see the Savatage "Live in Japan" cd at the Annapolis Circuit City, if any locals want it.
A preshow for us jammers would be cool, but only if we get special recognition by the restaurant owners...right Kai? (Just busting a few balls)
CD of the Day - Coverdale Page - Coverdale Page Green Bay Packers - The Quest to Repeat - Detroit Red Wings 4-2 3-0 at Chicago vs. TB
Kevin
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 20:04:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Tour dates URL Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.971010200319.2535A-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>
If someone could post the RSABBS.COM Tour dates page on the 'Jam, I'd appreciate it. I'm stuck using Lynx for awhile here, and it can't handle the ISMAP at the front page of www.rsabbs.com/dt. Thanks in advance!
In the CD player now: Nothing. My sister's playing the piano. :)
-- Bert Baldwin
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 20:10:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Skyway of Nightmares (Not the bootleg...) Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.971010200812.2554A-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>
If anyone's interested, I wrote a song last year called Skyway of Nightmares (quite a coincidence, eh?). It's about 5 mins long, and was written for solo piano performance. If anyone's interested in hearing it, you can respond to me by private e-mail to rcb@vectorbd.com. I'll probably put it on a .wav file or an mp3 file or something like that... I can e-mail it to you. IMHO, it kicks some serious butt.
-- Bert Baldwin
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:46:33 +0000 From: "Pedro Ordonez" <pedrord@quik.guate.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in Switzerland?? Message-ID: <199710102047.OAA04396@mails.quik.guate.com>
Hi!
Just read DT will play in Holland in December. I am wondering if there are any swiss jammers and if anybody knows if they will play in Switzerland or Austria in December?? Thanks *************************************************** * Pedro Ordonez * * Guatemala * * email: pedrord@quik.guate.com * ***************************************************
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 21:50:40 +0100 From: "Einar B. Gilberg" <einarg@colargol.idb.hist.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Chart position in Norway Message-ID: <343E9520.E67D337@colargol.idb.hist.no>
Dream Theater is on 31th place, falling down from 20th place last week. The list was found on http://www.vg.no/rampelys/musikk/lista/html/index.html and is published by Norway's best-selling newspaper. This list is based on last week sales from about 100 stores.
-Einar -- Einar B. Gilberg tlf : +47-73 51 05 31 Kalvskinns gt. 3 fax : +47-73 51 05 31 N-7012 Trondheim e-mail: einarg@colargol.idb.hist.no NORWAY www : http://www.colargol.idb.hist.no/~einarg
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 20:27:06 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Is it just me or what? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971010201937.2284A-100000@hoare.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Mauricio Martinez Villarreal wrote:
> Is anyone a little bothered by some of Dominici s vocals on WDADU? > I mean, i like the songs he sings that Labrie hasnt sung yet. Example: I > find the vocals annoying in Killing hand, and a fortune in lies, but not the > other songs. In TKH Dominici rushes some lines and sometime his voice > falls out.
First: James Labrie *has* sung all the songs on WDaDU. To a proof of this fact, I refer you to some bootlegs, especially Mike Bahr's "When Dream and Today Unite".
And there's even a killer version of "The Killing Hand" on "Live at the Marquee". The very *BEST* live performance that I have seen from LaBrie. Of course, there's a studio involved, but even then, the CD is cool.
> Has anyone else noted this, or is it just me? > Mauricio
Maybe you've missed some messages bashing Dominici a few 'jams ago... But I'd definitely love to see a re-make of WDaDU.
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 04:45:56 -0500 From: Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Divine Regal/TI's Black Umbrella Message-ID: <199710102239.RAA30482@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
A fairly new Metal Blade band called Divine Regal caught my eye in a magazine add saying that they are progressive Metal...Anyone know anything about this band?
Also, is there any Thought Industry fans out there? If so, talk about their new album, Black Umbrella. I heard that it's awesome. Let me know!!! _____________________________________________________ "Pessmism protects me; limp hope won't let me down" -Enchant _____________________________________________________ Ryan Good - Music Stapher from WSUM - Madison's idea of College Radio! - The Unofficial-Official Madison Progressive Rock Monster Home - 608-285-8695 Radio - 608-262-1206 "Madison Student Radio: It's coming!" WSUM/MSR Homepage: http://msr.wisc.edu
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:57:45 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Divine Regal/TI's Black Umbrella Message-ID: <199710102257.PAA26690@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Ryan Good said: > >A fairly new Metal Blade band called Divine Regal caught my eye in a >magazine add saying that they are progressive Metal...Anyone know anything >about this band?
Good band, opened for Fates warning on the East Coast recently... Hard to pin the sound down. A lot of reviews of them were posted a couple months back of them. A lot of Rush influence, Crimson glory some say.
> >Also, is there any Thought Industry fans out there? If so, talk about their >new album, Black Umbrella. I heard that it's awesome. Let me know!!!
Well, the new Thought Industry stuff hasn't impressed me at all, they are definitely moving towards a more alternative sound.
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:09:52 -0700 From: Clark Abel <99able@alma.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: 99abel@alma.edu Subject: Re: Musical Tastes and Schtuff Message-ID: <343EDFF0.2BD@alma.edu>
Hmmm.... The prevalent opinion on this list when it comes to other people's music tastes seems to be divisible into two categories: either "metal rules and everything else sucks! No, really, I'm just kidding. It is true though!" or the flip side: a militant devotion to open-mindedness that precludes forming any kind of opinion about anything that anyone might possibly have ever called art, on the premise that all art is equal because it's all someone's expression and as long as it touches one person then it is the most beautiful thing in the world. (This is a poor attempt at humor on my part, don't take it TOO seriously) Anyway, I just thought I'd post some thoughts on this, so it's pretty safe to assume that this is going to be another one of my ridiculously long posts. First of all, these are just some thoughts, I'm not even necessarily saying that all of this is 100% true. There have been a few posts lately about how people who like pop music just have different tastes, and how the music is really no less valid than Classical, jazz, fusion, prog, etc in terms of artistic merit, as long as these people like it. And I agree with this logic, from a certain point of view. But there really is no right answer to the question of whether one form of music is "better" than another, so I think it's worth exploring a different point of view. Look at a modern day, in-their-late-teens-or-early-twenties-pop- country-music-fan. My intitial reaction to all country-pop that I've ever heard is that it is utter garbage, and that it sets new standards for tackiness and piss-poor song writing. And on the one hand, that opinion is probably not justified. I COULD give you a bunch of impressive-sounding reasons explaining why I think it's garbage, but there's no point. No matter what I say, someone would just say "It doesn't matter what you think, someone loves that music just as much as you love your Dream Theater and that makes it just as valid". Now I want to make it very clear that I'm not necessarily disagreeing with this. It certainly is a sound argument, and there's really no good answer to it. But on the other hand, do you think the average country fan really does get as much out of that music as some of us do out of DT? Has anyone else ever tried to talk about music with a country fan, or a rap fan, or an Oasis fan? I have, on numerous occasions. And without fail, they have never had any idea what I'm talking about. Now I'm not saying that anyone needs to know what a quarter note is, or understand odd time-sigs or polyrhythms, or even really analyze the music at all, to appreciate it the way a musician does. Lord knows there are thousands of musicians who know hundreds of times more about music theory than I do, but I wouldn't concede that they neccesarily get even more out of music than I do (though some of them probably do). But no one who listens to country or rap has ever said ANYTHING to me that really convinced me that it was very important to them at all. Example: I asked this girl who liked country music (and Hole, incidentally) what it was that she likes so much about this music (she had already given me the line about how her music was just as important to her as mine was to me). She told me that she just really likes the way it sounds. When I probed her for a better answer, she just said something about liking "the beat". So I explained to her that there was this band called Dream Theater, and they have this song called Learning to Live. Then I tried to explain to her that when I close my eyes and listen to this song, that certain parts of it touch something deep down in my subconcious, and that it brings out feelings in me that nothing but music can bring out. I tried to explain to her that when John Petrucci hits certain notes in this song, I have no choice but to conclude that he is pouring every ounce of his soul into that guitar, and absolutely singing through it with all of his heart. I tried to explain to her that this music created such a powerful emotional response in me that it was actually accompanied by physical reactions to the music that I couldn't explain. At this point, based on the look on her face, I decided to leave out the part about how when he hits those same certain notes, it seems to me that my whole being *is* that note. Needless to say, she thought I was crazy. As do, perhaps, some of you. I've had essentially this same conversation with a number of other people who like various types of pop music. And I can't help but conclude from this that none of them have ever gotten anything out of that type of music even approaching the sheer joy that I have out of the music I love. Now I realize that I can't possibly say anything for certain until I have interrogated every living Clint Black fan, because one of them somewhere might have had a similiar experience with good old Clint. But frankly, I doubt it. I also realize that this does not make me better than any of these people, since it probably sounds that way, and in a way, it doesn't make DT any better than Clint Black (random example, BTW). But in a way, it kind of does. It seems to me that there is nothing in that kind of music to create that type of response in anyone. From what I can gather, your average country or rap fan listens to music all the time the way I listen to it when I'm typing or reading email. It's just there. It's just sound in the background. And it sounds good, but ultimately, that's all it does. And maybe some people will think I'm crazy, but when I REALLY listen to music, I absolutely feel like I'm a part of it, and that I'm somehow inside of it. It takes on a reality of its own, and becomes something more real than just catchy sounds. I can't explain it any better than that. But have you ever heard anything like that from a Snoop Doggy Dogg fan? I know some country and rap fans really get into the lyrics, and then they always point to some sappy song about lost love or your homey gettin' gunned down in a drive-by to prove how that music is "emotional", too. But I'm talking about something more than that. I hope that this doesn't make me sound too close-minded, even though it probably does. Again, I'm not even sure I believe everything I wrote here, I'm just kind of thinking out loud (or on the keyboard). So please respond, but don't flame, because I'll tell you right now that I won't even try to defend any of this. How's that for a disclaimer? I will, however, try to clarify my thoughts wherever anyone might like me to. Jam on. -Clark
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:31:21 -0400 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: gratitude Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971010193121.010bc100@sol.eng.fore.com>
>No KAI....you're fucking NOBODY, that's the point.
That's a bit extreme, dontcha think? Granted, the woman's sex drive ain't what it used to be, but she still likes to do the bone dance every once in a while. I'll try to remedy the situation ASAP.
KAI (trying to make light of the past week)
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:33:50 PDT From: "Kristof Redei" <totikus@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LitS, NM, Boston CD stores Message-ID: <19971010233351.26436.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi jammers,
Continuing the "does anyone hear" stuff: -does anyone hear Guns n' Roses in the chorus of NM? -does anyone hear what that noise is around 8:40-8:45 in LitS?
Also, if any Boston jammers could write to me about CD stores with a good selection of new/used and import prog, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------- |Kristof Redei totikus@hotmail.com | |"Sometimes the anguish we survive | | And the mysteries we nurture Dream Theater | | Are the fabrics of our lives..." "Lines in the Sand" | ---------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:41:29 PDT From: "Kristof Redei" <totikus@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Titotol Message-ID: <19971010234129.22649.qmail@hotmail.com>
Honci,
Megvettuk a papanak a CD-t: Barenboim (vagy valami ilyesmi) con- ductolja a Rheingoldot, es Bayreuth-i felvetel, ugyhogy nagyon rossz nem lehet. Harmincharom dollar volt, ugyhogy tizeneggyel kellene be- szallnod. Itt a Hugoek azt mondogatjak, hogy varjuk meg a kovetkezo hetveget az odaadassal, mert akkor te is itt leszel, es ne hagyjunk k i teged a dologbol. Mondjuk en nem szeretnem ha a Papa itt szenvedne Rheingold nelkul egy hetig amikor ott van a szekrenyben. De egyebkent most jutott eszembe hogy meg ki van veve egy rheingold a konyvtarbol. Mindegy, nyugodtan ird meg ha a zt gondolod, hogy majd jovo hetvegen adjuk oda. Nagyon hianyzol. Legyszi irjal, pl. mit jatszottal penteken. ---------------------------------------------------------- |Kristof Redei totikus@hotmail.com | |"Sometimes the anguish we survive | | And the mysteries we nurture Dream Theater | | Are the fabrics of our lives..." "Lines in the Sand" | ---------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:44:36 PDT From: "Kristof Redei" <totikus@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sorry.... Message-ID: <19971010234437.12398.qmail@hotmail.com>
Sorry about that last message, that wasn't intended for the jam, I accidentally sent it there. Sorry again. ---------------------------------------------------------- |Kristof Redei totikus@hotmail.com | |"Sometimes the anguish we survive | | And the mysteries we nurture Dream Theater | | Are the fabrics of our lives..." "Lines in the Sand" | ---------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 21:58:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3094 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.971010214331.109468A-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Fri, 10 Oct 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > I just picked up a Southern California magazine called BAM and I saw an ad for a show featuring the band AMBUSH. Does anyone know what they sound like? They look a lot like the old Crimson Glory - big hair, cool masks, etc... If they sound anything like Crimson Glory, I'd like to get their CD(s). > Oh my God!! I know exactly who they are. I caught them when they were part of the Roxy's glam night over the summer which was headlined by the reunited Pretty Boy Floyd. Anyway, Ambush is very hard to describe. Sonically, they kind of remind me of black album Metallica. Pretty heavy, or at least they were the heaviest band of the evening. They do wear these really cool/weird outfits that incorporate masks and space-age clothing. They also have a backdrop on their stage with a larger-than-life drawing of each member. Of special note is the theatrics they use in their show. They do some moves together in unison (ala KISS and Warrant) but what that really takes the case is the "martial art scene." During one of the songs, this guy wearing a lot of make-up appeared on the side of the stage and began twirling this spear. One of the guitar players (who could stand to lose 20 pounds, IMHO) puts down the guitar and struts over to him and the two engage in a mock fight. Not to spoil it, but the guitar player wins :) To answer your original question, I have no idea if they sound like King Crimson since I don't know what King Crimson sounds like.
Richie
P.S. BTW, BAM SUCKS!!!! Before alternative hit, they were a really cool mag. They loved hard rock/heavy metal stuff. Now, they completely sold out and talk shit about the same bands that they used to drool over. They lost my respect. For a better mag, check out Rock City News, if you can find it.
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