YTSEJAM Digest 3127
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Gwar is progressive.
by MrQ <mrq@mail.utexas.edu>
2) Billboard and DT
by Christopher Bellardine <chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
3) Gwar/Nirvana
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
4) Last Jam
by Chad Allen Klunck <cak6981@omega.uta.edu>
5) YNM
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
6) RE: Gwar, NDTC
by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3123
by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
8) mp3 problems
by JB <beamup@vt.edu>
9) ESP gig in West Midlands, England Wed 22nd October - NMC
by "Adrian Holmes GBC3F73F@IBMMAIL" <gbc3f73f@ibmmail.com>
10) Re: Derek Sherinian and FII
by Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
11) Re: Try Bismarck, ND radio....
by Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
12) Tour dates/Providence
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
13) Magna Carta bands
by Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
14) mailing list
by Jedi38@aol.com
15) DT on the radio
by Josh Wingell <wingell@ziplink.net>
16) JLMB solo
by sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu (Stephen LaMonica)
17) Re: New Phish tracks
by cn111@freenet.carleton.ca (Jean-Pierre Thibault)
18) Ticket available for LA show on 11/11
by fini@eci1.ucsb.edu (Paul T. Fini)
19) Savatage In Connecticut!!! WOW!!!
by MTeiper@aol.com
20) DT In VA
by mcrooks@cambridg.com
21) Data Compression
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:04:14 -0500
From: MrQ <mrq@mail.utexas.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Gwar is progressive.
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971016230414.0069334c@mail.utexas.edu>
>
>Someone asked, "how do they play with all that shit on?" The same thing
>could be asked of Peter Gabriel in Genesis days, "how does he sing with all
>that shit on?" So I'm thinking, Gwar is the continuance of old Genesis.
>They're not some tribute band, but they're doing new stuff with the same
>philosophy of what's important--the costumes.
>
>Genesis is considered one of the big progressive bands. So Gwar, a Genesis
>type band, must be prog too.
>
>Whattya think?
>
I think you need to get off the drugs son.
-"Q"
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THE VOID - your guide to progressive music on the web
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/club/4605
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 1:44:31 EDT
From: Christopher Bellardine <chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Billboard and DT
Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.877067071.chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
I just noticed that DT slipped from 54 to 114 in the charts since last week.
I think that totally blows. I'm really glad my local radio stations took my
15 requests to play some DT. Radio blows. Jewel is still at the top.
There's real talent in that band. Although I do like her voice.
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 00:48:45 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Gwar/Nirvana
Message-ID: <3446fc3b623f265@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> Well, actually "Rape Me" has the same exact rhythm as "Smells Like Teen
> Spirit" and is played in the same scratchy way. As for them ripping off
> Gwar of all bands I really doubt it. From what I've heard of Gwar I
> wouldn't consider them one of the most innovative bands out there.
Well, the song is "Pussy Planet" from the album "The Road Behind" - if you
really want, I can post a sample on a website. As for being innovative, not
especially, but once in a while they do something which lets you know that they
can actually play. I just think it's amusing music once in a while, when I'm
really tense and need something to laugh at. "Have You Seen Me" is a great song.
"Suckle...my bloated love knuckle...like Fatty Arbuckle...I'M GAY AND I'M
PROUD!" ;-) O, that floors me every time.
-Brian
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-John Myung of Dream Theater
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:48:44 -0500
From: Chad Allen Klunck <cak6981@omega.uta.edu>
To: The List to End All Lists <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Last Jam
Message-ID: <3446FC3C.227587D4@omega.uta.edu>
Err...I forgot to tell which song the background to the commercial was
from. It was 6:00.
Chad
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:00:53 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: "That Darn Mailing List Thingy" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: YNM
Message-ID: <19971016195423.AAA22583@sni.pananet.com>
I was wondering, has anybody here heard the original demo to YNM? I think
JP played it at some clinics or something like that? If so could those of
you who've heard it say exactly how its different?
juss curious
Ern
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 08:52:32 +0100
From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Gwar, NDTC
Message-ID: <9710170752.AA03430@star2.star-ag.ch>
At 16:42 16.10.97 -0700, Misha wrote:
>I wonder what it's like inside Gore-Gore the Dinosaur? =
>Anyway, my brother went to a concert, and he came back absolutely =
>COVERED in fake blood. The shirt is still pink...
>
Well, must be smelly, too. He should have changed it long time ago.
Jan
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 09:13:11 +0100
From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3123
Message-ID: <9710170813.AA04162@star2.star-ag.ch>
At 10:58 16.10.97 -0700, you wrote:
>> BTW, at one point James says: "I don't know, is it just me or this guy
>> here is third class with the guitar?" :)
>
>Ha ha. No. Actually JP is a first class guitarist :). What James said
>(this might be paraphrased--don't feel like digging out the tape to
>check) was: "I don't know, is it just me or does this guy's shirt clash
>with his guitar?" John always wore those funky looking shirts with
>patterns all over them during the IAW days.
>
>Jon Dery
I double checked this. You're absolutely right! Didn't listen close enough
the first time :(. Would have been funny though ;).
Thanks for that piece of information.
Jan
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 03:36:16 -0400
From: JB <beamup@vt.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: mp3 problems
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971017033616.007aa430@192.168.255.1>
I'm rather new to mp3's so maybe someone here can help out... I've
recently downloaded some mp3 samples (off web pages), and some work fine,
but others, upon loading up, seem to be corrupted...The correct song can be
heard (VERY FAINTLY) in the background, but in the (loud) foreground are a
bunch of blips and spatterings of random noise. Anyone else have this
problem? A good example is from the guy who had FII on his webpage
(elender.citadel.something) before it came out... all the FII and
Fix/Kassel clips in mp3 I got fine, however, when I tried to d/l the mp3 of
some band covering DT ("surrounded" by some other band), I had this
problem... same on the shadow gallery page... all the mp3's give me that
corrupted sound... I'm running a PC and using WinAmp (then tried them with
WinPlay and they wouldn't even start playing)... Any ideas? It seems like
too many occurrances to be a fault of the provider..
Thanks,
J
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 06:55:41 EDT
From: "Adrian Holmes GBC3F73F@IBMMAIL" <gbc3f73f@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ESP gig in West Midlands, England Wed 22nd October - NMC
Message-ID: <199710171056.DAA06854@odin.ax.com>
My band ESP have a major gig coming up next week at The Robin Hood in
Merry Hill, Dudley.
Any Ytsejammers based in the West Midlands in England please come along
and give us your support ! Entrance is only 2.50 UKPounds.
Mostly original material with a few 'choice' covers thrown in !
(Including some Marillion ! ! !)
Hope to see you there !
Ad. (official ESP web site at http://www.villager.net/esp)
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:43:01 +0200
From: Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Derek Sherinian and FII
Message-ID: <34474135.1299@Netvision.net.il>
Hi!
George said a few things which I must comment on:
I&W is indeed a lead-dominated album. (BTW you forgot TTT)
Awake is a guitar dominated album - not true.
It sounds guitar dominated because the keyboards are back in the mix.
There are some keyboard solos in Awake (6:00, Scarred), but not as many
as in I&W. But listen to CIAW or Voices. These songs wouldn't be the
same without the keys.
--
Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM
"I'm American, honey. Our names don't mean shit."
- Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction
"How can you keep your head and not go insane when the only light at the
end of the tunnel is another train" - Mike Portnoy
Visit my home page at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:58:33 +0200
From: Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Try Bismarck, ND radio....
Message-ID: <344736C9.611E@Netvision.net.il>
Andrew Fors wrote:
> Try living in Bismarck, North Dakota. We don't have a fucking rock
> station! We only have this classic rock bullshit and they won't play
> DT beacuse it's too heavy. Yet they play some Metallica. What a bunch
> of lamed braine shitheads. I bet if they gave it a chance.....
Hey, Andrew!
Try living over here (Netanya, Israel). We don't even have a station for
each kind of music. We have ONE station that plays mainstream and that's
it! Think of hearing MTV in the radio all day....
The pain!! the horror!! no!!!!!!!!
--
Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM
"I'm American, honey. Our names don't mean shit."
- Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction
"How can you keep your head and not go insane when the only light at the
end of the tunnel is another train" - Mike Portnoy
Visit my home page at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:13:32 +0200
From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tour dates/Providence
Message-ID: <3447485A.B7CD1FC7@westend.com>
Hi!
Hey everyone going to see DT today in Providence!
Write some reviews! And don't complain that they only play for one hour. It
seems as if they come back at the 25th of November (tentative date).
The RSABBS site still lists the European dates from April, really hot news. I
guess D-Man, Skadz, or someone else will post the dates here and I don't want
to clutter the Ytsejam... Look into the THE MIRROR-pages, I will include the
updated list in a minute or two.
http://www.westend.com/TheMirror/Termine.html
Later,
Steffen - THE MIRROR
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:17:26 +0200
From: Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Magna Carta bands
Message-ID: <34474946.7D58@Netvision.net.il>
Hey all!
I'm thinking of getting a new Magna Carta band CD. I have Shadow
Gallery's "Carved In Stone". What should I get?
Private E-Mail would be fine.
Thanx,
--
Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM
"I'm American, honey. Our names don't mean shit."
- Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction
"How can you keep your head and not go insane when the only light at the
end of the tunnel is another train" - Mike Portnoy
Visit my home page at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:40:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jedi38@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: mailing list
Message-ID: <971016205852_126361604@emout12.mail.aol.com>
I would like to get OFF the mailing list.
Thanks,
Jedi38@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:14:23 -0400
From: Josh Wingell <wingell@ziplink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT on the radio
Message-ID: <34471E5F.48CD8FAA@ziplink.net>
> -Misha
>
>..Wow! How about that! "New World Man" just came on WGIR, 101.1 NH.
I heard WGIR play "Burning My Soul" Wednesday night at about 11:30.
I thought that station was going down the tubes, and fast. But they
just jumped about 10 points in my book :) This is the first time
I have heard DT on the radio in a couple years. My GF heard
"Pull Me Under" on 94.1 (a station in RI) yesterday. It freaked
her out since she was listening to IAW all day. :-)
Btw, going to the New Haven show? I got my tickets! :-)
Josh
P.S. 'tis my first ytsejam post...go easy on me ;)
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:12:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu (Stephen LaMonica)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JLMB solo
Message-ID: <199710171312.JAA19817@polaris.sju>
Someone mentioned that the solo in JLMB alternates between speakers...well to
me, the reason would be(correct me if I am wrong) that it is actually a trade
off between guitar(left) and Keys (right)...it sounds as if they are doing a
sort of echo effect and then in the last run, they play it in unison. Does
this sound right to everyone....Derek
Korg often sounds like a guitar, which is why I think that there is that trade-
off going on...if you listen closely you can distinguish between the two.
Stephen La Monica
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:43:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: cn111@freenet.carleton.ca (Jean-Pierre Thibault)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: New Phish tracks
Message-ID: <199710171443.KAA15067@freenet6.carleton.ca.carleton.ca>
>Hey.
>Just a quick question: What are the tunes on the new live Phish disc going
>to be??
Got this from http://www.gadiel.com/phish/ :
New Live Album - "Slip, Stitch and Pass"
[INLINE]
Phish's new CD "Slip, Stitch and Pass" which contains songs recorded
at the
3/1/97 Markthalle show in Hamburg, Germany will be released October
28th.
One disc - 78 minutes long. Price $12.99
Song List: Cities, Wolfman's Brother > Jesus Left Chicago, Weigh,
Mike's Song > Lawn Boy > Weekapaug Groove, Hello My Baby, Taste
As you can see, Phish is finally putting Mike's Song on CD (they've been
playing it since 1985). It's worth getting just for that, IMO.
J-P
--
"I think, therefore I jam"
homepage and tapelist:
http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cn111/
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:21:10 -0700
From: fini@eci1.ucsb.edu (Paul T. Fini)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ticket available for LA show on 11/11
Message-ID: <v01530501b06d32316c0f@[128.111.29.61]>
Attention any L.A. area 'jammers who haven't yet bought a ticket for the
DT show at the House of Blues - I bought 3 but will now only be needing
2, so one is up for grabs! I'm offering it for $23, which is the base
ticket price plus TicketBastard charges.
Let me know ASAP if you or a friend need this ticket - I'm offering it here
first!
Paul
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fini@eci2.ucsb.edu Materials Dept.
voice (805)893-8869, fax (805)893-8971 MOCVD group
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:53:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Savatage In Connecticut!!! WOW!!!
Message-ID: <971017115247_1277708941@emout20.mail.aol.com>
Good Morning, Jammerz -
Well, here I am, working on only a handful of hours of sleep after getting
home at 4:00 A.M. following my road trip to Danbury, CT to see the mighty
'Tage on the opening night of their European warmup gigs! If you are
thinking about going to the Jersey or Virginia gigs but aren't sure... GO!!!
This was my first 'Tage show, and I was absolutely blown away. The band
didn't play the entire new album, as rumored, but they played a large portion
of it, which KICKED SERIOUS ARSE! I don't wanna wait til January to get this
in the States! WAAAHHHH!!!! :-)
Anyway, I am usually pretty good at remembering track listings in order, but
the new material threw me off last night. So, I'll tell ya what older tunes
they played, not necessarily in any order:
]From DWD: I Am (Jon on vocs... messed 'em up bad. Who cares? :-) )
This Is the Time (GOD song!)
Dead Winter Dead
]From HOR: Chance (First older song played... I remember that!)
Handful Of Rain
]From EOT: Edge Of Thorns (BIG crowd pleaser)
]From Streets: Jesus Saves (2nd old tune played... we helped on vocs! :-) )
Believe (Jon again on vocs... Gave me chills!!
Outstanding!!)
]From GB: Gutter Ballet (Set Closer... Jon/Zack vocs... Extremely Powerful
LIVE)
Temptation Revelation (Chris Caffrey was DA MAN on this
one!!!
So much so, that Al
Pitrelli gave him an "I'm not
worthy!" bow afterwards!)
]From HOTMK: HOTMK (Last encore... biggest crowd response... kicked my ass
all over the floor!)
I think that's it for the older stuff, but I was rocking pretty hard in the
pit - one or two could have eluded me. ;-) I must say that the comaraderie
(is that how you spell it?) at a 'Tage show was the closest to a DT show as
I've seen. There was a definite sense of "brotherhood" in the air last
night. What an amazing 2 Hour experience... Look out, Europe. That 'Tage
are coming and they mean business!!!
To those who were there... didn't the Soundscape singer look like Kenny G? I
couldn't shake that damn image the whole time they were playing! They were
pretty damn good, though. I bought their CD there. Pretty good prog metal,
folx. I have to listen to it and see if it's as good as they were in
concert.
' Nuff said. Killer show. I'm tired.
Madness Reigns (Still Basking In the Afterglow)... Matt T.
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:08:46 -0500
From: mcrooks@cambridg.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT In VA
Message-ID: <TFSJOUJL@cambridg.com>
The tentative dates for DT in Northern Virginia are November 20 or 21=2E=
=20
Nothing confirmed yet, but the club has been asked to hold those days=
=20
open while DT plans the last of the schedule=2E
=20
-MC
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:14:39 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Data Compression
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971013225758.3669B-100000@hoare.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, kylania wrote:
> > Lousy compression is when you pipe your shitty $20 boombox through a Pringles
> > can...
>
> See here: http://canada.cnet.com/Briefs/Glossary/Terms/lossy.html for what
> "lossy" means in the graphics world, I'm sure it's similar in the audio
> world.
Well, if you're interested in (lossless) Data Compression, I'm
starting a Data Compression homepage (I'm studying it). You can look for
it under <http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/compression.html>.
Please, send me any comments about it: its contents, its visual,
the deepness with which you'd like to see the subjects covered, the
grammatical errors (Yes! I do mind for spelling, but you know that English
is not my first language) etc.
Hope you help me to help you, Roger...
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Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
"Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters"
James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters
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