YTSEJAM Digest 3099
Today's Topics:
1) Chicago Help! (also Milwaukee Help!)
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
2) Translation Made Easy
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
3) Cast
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
4) imports, Divine Regale, GnR?
by "Parker" <domine.mortis@usa.net>
5) imports, Divine Regale, and GnR?
by "Parker" <domine.mortis@usa.net>
6) Someone else likes Magma???
by Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
7) g3
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
8) oops
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
9) WDADU
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
10) MiniDisc
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
11) Killing Hand
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
12) WDADU... Import?
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
13) Live in Tokyo
by "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
14) Musical tastes continuation
by "Brown, Neal Patrick" <W059@ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>
15) 5 Reasons Why I Think FII is a Great Album / Derek's playing
by al587725@mail.mty.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli )
16) Metal/Rock Radio Show Survey
by Chris Aitken <aitkenc@ideal.net.au>
17) Toad's place...
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:04:02 -0400
From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Chicago Help! (also Milwaukee Help!)
Message-ID: <34404C32.32E9@enter.net>
Hi...
I hoping one of you Chicago ytsejammers might be able to help me out.
I'm planning and going out to see the DT show Nov 1 in Chicago at the
House of Blues. One problem! I live in PA and will be flying out to
stay at my brother's place in Mukwonaho, Wisconsin.
I'm looking for someone that might meet me before the show and either
help me find the show and or maybe give me a little tour of
Chicago..I've only ever drove around it.
This would be a GREAT HELP....because obviously I'll be absolutely lost
and it looks like the House of Blues in the thick of things in Chicago.
Please email privately if you are interesting in helping a fellow
ytsejammer.
Also if there is going to be a a show in Milwaukee I will be going there
too...so if this show is happening I would also ask for some help from
any Milwaukee fans too.
thanks,
Bruce Duesterhoeft
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:43:53 -0400
From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Translation Made Easy
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971012004353.0068f704@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>Somebody said:
>>Honci,
>> Megvettuk a papanak a CD-t: Barenboim (vagy valami ilyesmi) con-
>>ductolja a Rheingoldot, es Bayreuth-i felvetel, ugyhogy nagyon rossz
>>nem lehet. Harmincharom dollar volt, ugyhogy tizeneggyel kellene be-
>>szallnod.
><<snip>>
>
>haha. I bet I am the only person who is not Hungarian who understood this.
Pshaw. Any schmoe can translate that...
"Honey,
Large Friar Tuck a pineapple and CD: Baron Munchausen (vaguely salami
miasma) conducted a Golden Rhinoceros, in Beirut - I fallaffel, big hoagie
nagging rose name the hat. Harmonica-robot dollar volt, big hoagie Tiger
Woods kerosene sleeping-beehive."
Which, obviously means, if you read a little into it, that every Ytsejammer
is supposed to mail me $10. Or was that $20? That big hoagie metaphor is
throwing me off a little bit.
Brian Henderson
hender@wam.umd.edu
"Nodnol, Bulgaria -- rich in animal produce and mineral wealth, just south
of Bosnia." -- D. Lister
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 23:48:16 -0600
From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cast
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971011234816.0069a664@sysop.com.mx>
Ernesto wrote:
>BTW, this Tuesday a prog band from Mexico called 'Cast' is playing here in
>Panama. Has anybody heard of them? According to their webpage they've
>played in the States before...and they're listed at progrock.com too.
Cast is a band from Baja California, Mexico that has been making prog music
for more than 18 years! . They make good prog music with two singers. I've
five albums of them and all are very good CD's. They have a Live album
which contain live cuts from Argentina and Los Angeles. They are definetly
one of the best prog bands from Mexico. Just don=B4t miss the show!! :)
Also check some reviews of them at:
http://prog.ari.net/prog/GEPR/gepr.html
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 22:49:29
From: "Parker" <domine.mortis@usa.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: imports, Divine Regale, GnR?
Message-ID: <db01-BJLexb2605@netaddress.usa.net>
> Ah, wouldn't it be nice if that were the case here? If imports
> were cheaper than domestic releases?
Oddly enough, I've been trying to get in a cd of a certain
French band (anyone know Magma?), apparantly released or
rereleased a couple of months ago on cd for $10. $10! You
can maybe find an old cassette of theirs for that much.
> Subject: Divine Regal/TI's Black Umbrella
> A fairly new Metal Blade band called Divine Regal caught my eye
> in a magazine add saying that they are progressive
> Metal...Anyone know anything about this band?
Divine Regale has been around since at least the time I made up
my old prog-band list. The official web page I have is
http://pubpages.unh.edu/~reyancik/index.htm
but that may be seriously out of date.
> Continuing the "does anyone hear" stuff:
> -does anyone hear Guns n' Roses in the chorus of NM?
I hear Alice in Chains in the opening, Ozric Tentacles in
the soloing, indutrial in the "Keep your head up" part...
The GnR is probably from the fact that they actually used
'baby' in their lyrics. The closing chorus has a bit of
GnR's vocal harmonics to it, but I don't think it's prevalent
throughout the rest of the tune...
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 22:55:13
From: "Parker" <domine.mortis@usa.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: imports, Divine Regale, and GnR?
Message-ID: <ww03-BJLe4J2938@netaddress.usa.net>
> Ah, wouldn't it be nice if that were the case here? If imports
> were cheaper than domestic releases?
Oddly enough, I've been trying to get in a cd of a certain
French band (anyone know Magma?), apparantly released or
rereleased a couple of months ago on cd for $10. $10! You
can maybe find an old cassette of theirs for that much.
> Subject: Divine Regal/TI's Black Umbrella
> A fairly new Metal Blade band called Divine Regal caught my eye
> in a magazine add saying that they are progressive
> Metal...Anyone know anything about this band?
Divine Regale has been around since at least the time I made up
my old prog-band list. The official web page I have is
http://pubpages.unh.edu/~reyancik/index.htm
but that may be seriously out of date.
> Continuing the "does anyone hear" stuff:
> -does anyone hear Guns n' Roses in the chorus of NM?
I hear Alice in Chains in the opening, Ozric Tentacles in
the soloing, indutrial in the "Keep your head up" part...
The GnR is probably from the fact that they actually used
'baby' in their lyrics. The closing chorus has a bit of
GnR's vocal harmonics to it, but I don't think it's prevalent
throughout the rest of the tune...
____________________________________________________________________
Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:38:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Someone else likes Magma???
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971012003053.15810A-100000@parka.winternet.com>
On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Parker wrote:
> [...] a cd of a certain French band (anyone know Magma?),
Yeah, they're cool! What's been re-released? I've got
Ko:hntarko:sz and Udu Wudu. (pardon the ascii-clean umlauts.)
To tie into the 'pour your soul into your music' bit that's been
here the past couple'a days...
..You've gotta appreciate someone so into his music that
he invents a new language to sing in! (And he's a kick-ass
drummer, too.)
--Jay "that's Christian Vander, for the uninitiated" Omega
--NP: Caravan - Canterbury Tales (the Best Of Caravan) Disc 1
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:58:38 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: "That Darn Mailing List Thingy" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: g3
Message-ID: <19971011195946.AAA29695@sni.pananet.com>
so apparently they broadcast a g3 concert on the net...and nobody posted it
to the jam? waddup wit dat?:)
Anyhoo the page is at http://www.audionet.com/concerts/g3
however it doesn't seem to work...it doesn't seem to be archived, but the
page is still up there. I dunno, it didn't work for me, maybe it'll work
for someone else.
Ern
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:14:32 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: oops
Message-ID: <199710120614.BAA19423@Walden.MO.NET>
Damn, I sent that last message from my dad's address. Oops. I also
didn't necessarily mean to send it to the jam, either. Sorry.
Dale R. Newberry
"People think I'm insane because I am frowning all
the time." - Ozzy Osbourne
"Bein' crazy is the least of my worries."
-Jack Kerouac
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:23:38 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WDADU
Message-ID: <199710120614.BAA16898@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 11 Oct 97 at 9:05, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Definitly!! Tou see, i had all the official releases, and a
> bootleg, but i didnt wanted to buy WDADU because some friends told me
> that the singer had a horrible voice, and i was kind of waiting for a re
> release with JB on vocals. As you can see, the long wait between ACoS and
> FII made me buy it, and IT RULES, even though that album might be the
> "immature" one.
Well, I found out FII was coming out and had a DT resurgance and
bought it, and the more I listen to it, the more I like it. I have no
problems with Dominici's voice. In fact I like it. He reminds me of a
cross between Geddy Lee, Steve Perry and the singer from Stryper. All
stuff I like. Especially on "Only a Matter of Time." I LOVE that
track. I doubt they will re-record it, as that would eb a step
backwards.....
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
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Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:23:38 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MiniDisc
Message-ID: <199710120614.BAA16893@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 11 Oct 97 at 9:05, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > Whoo hoo! Another MiniDisc owner it's hard to find another person
> > with a MiniDisc player! Can you e-mail me a list of good downloads
> > for DT so I can record to MD as well? I LOVE my MD Player! :)
> > Andrew Fors
>
> yes but isnt the minidisc that comes with dt's cd playable on a regular cd player?
> whereas the actual "MiniDisc" is the thing that looks like a floppy?
Well, that technically is not a minidisc. It's just a 3 inch CD.
and yes they are playable in a regular player, except magazine-style
changers and some car players.
Yeah, MiniDiscs look like floppy discs, but smaller. I love mine!
:) Theya re wonderful things. SOOOOO much better than a casette, and
more convenient than a CD burner, with re-write capabilities.
NP: Another Hand-The Killing Hand
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
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Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:23:38 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Killing Hand
Message-ID: <199710120614.BAA16907@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 11 Oct 97 at 9:05, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Indeed. This version is amazing. When I heard the "when I go back
> again..." part I couldn't speak. Not a single mistake in the whole
> song...
I agree, I love the "Another-Hand" part at the beginning as well. I
haven't gotten my "When Dream and Today Unite" yet, so I can't
totally compare James to Charlie, but in "Fortune in Lies" and
"The Killing Hand" I think James sings with more feeling than Charlie
did, but that's just me. I do think Dominici was an excellent singer
in the studio, I've heard his weak points were live though. I'll see
soon. "Only a Matter of Time" is one of my fav. DT songs, and I'm
yeat to hear LaBrie sing it. Hopefully soon. Anyway, that's my 2
cents.
NP: Cover My Eyes - Dream Theater
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
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Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:23:38 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WDADU... Import?
Message-ID: <199710120614.BAA16903@btiserv.btigate.com>
Does hte import of WDADU have the liner with lyrics and stuff?
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
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Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:29:22 -0600
From: "Andrew Fors" <afors@btigate.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Live in Tokyo
Message-ID: <199710120619.BAA17203@btiserv.btigate.com>
On 11 Oct 97 at 9:05, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Ohh yeah!! I just remembered now! And do you notice that in that
> same video, on UaGM james skips one word in the passage that says: "i
> argue with the clouds (here he stops) beauty from my eyes"
> stealing
Don't forget the intro to a Pantera song in the YtseJam!
Andrew Fors
afors@btigate.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119
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Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
Centers our perspective
And pacifies our cries
Sometimes the anguish we survive
And the mysteries we nurture
Are the fabrics of our lives
"Lines in the Sand"
Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:16:08 CST
From: "Brown, Neal Patrick" <W059@ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Musical tastes continuation
Message-ID: <12OCT97.02450540.0065.MUSIC@ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>
Regarding the musical taste thread....my take on it is this. Last year,
I discovered Yes. I'd been a big Kansas and DT fan for a while, but I
was completely unaware of the whole progressive subgenre. I found Yes'
double-live album (Yessongs) and after I got used to it I played it
constantly. My roommates listened to a bunch of pop stuff--Bush,
Everclear (barf!!), Nine Inch Nails, Filter, shit like that. So whenever
they'd walk in the room and hear, say, "Close To The Edge," they'd be
like, "what the fuck IS that??" I tried so many times to explain to them
why Yes beats the hell out of Tupac....but it didn't work. Now what I do
is I tell everybody that the stuff I listen to is weird (well, they'll
think it's farkin' loony if all the ever listen to is Sheryl Crow) and
obscure, but it's really complicated and thoughtful. I also keep my CD
collection split into four sections: the King Crimson/DT/ELP/Phish prog
stuff, classical, jazz, and the few pop bands I feel have
merit--Metallica, Zeppelin, U2, Hendrix, Soundgarden, etc. And people
look at the prog section (considerably larger than the other three ;) )
and say, what the hell is this? Oh...that's a Jethro Tull album...it's
pretty cool, but there's only one track on the whole damn thing! If all
somebody ever listens to is three-chord nonsense, they can't comprehend
more complex music. (I'm trying not to sound snobbish, but I think I'm
failing miserably.) It's like with religion. You can argue all you like
about it, but talking about it doesn't change anybody's mind ever. Even
getting out something amazing like OFB's Metropolis or anything by the
Mahavishnu Orchestra (!--now there is some damn fast playing!) doesn't
change anybody's mind. In response, they'll just ask you to listen some
track off the new Spice Girls record. (*pardon me while I retch*) You
see what I mean? You have to just kinda play the good shit while they're
doing something else and then they realize how stoopid they've been =P.
One of my roomies this year is actually starting to like a couple of
Crimson tunes--even the psychotic ones, like "Fracture" and "Sex Sleep
Eat Drink Dream" (!). (This guy listens to Enya's "Memory of Trees" all
the fuckin' time....not really a bad album, believe it or not, if you on
once,ly have to listen to it once....he plays it at least once a day!!!
arrgh!) Anyway, you get the idea....
P.S. If DT does decide to play in St. Louis, you can bet yer left
you-know-what that I am gonna be there!! If they are and you wanna hang
out/need a ride/whatever, e-mail me:
w059@academic.truman.edu....especially if you're a jammer from
Mizzou...I'll be coming down I-70 to get home anyway, so I can give ya a
ride into town. =)
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 03:00:50 -0500
From: al587725@mail.mty.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli )
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 5 Reasons Why I Think FII is a Great Album / Derek's playing
Message-ID: <199710120800.DAA22334@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
I've found several reasons why I think that FII is a great album and how
you can appreciate it better :
1.- If I want to listen to heavy songs , I listen to The Mirror/Lie
2.- If I want to listen to prog at its best , I listen to ACOS
3.- If I want to listen to time sig changes , I listen to Take the Time
4.- If I want to listen to complex instrumental arrangements , I listen to
Metropolis
5.- If I want to listen to anything else , I listen to Falling Into Infinity.
By this I mean to say that I don't need what's already been done in
previous DT albums to be done again , it's there and I can listen to it
whenever I want. FII gives us fresh music , an evolution in DT's style and
the opportunity to diversify our musical tastes. Hear FII without comparing
and accepting what's been done and you shall enjoy the music of DT!
I would also like to know everybody's opinion on Derek in FII
because ever since Kevin left DT there has been all this talk about Derek
and how will he fit in the band. Well the album is out and it hasn't been
discussed much and I would like to see some talk about it. Personally I
think that Derek is amazing on FII and I really like his style.
Marcelo Martinelli
Monterrey , Mexico
-It dawned on me one day that I should not be making sandwiches for a living-
--- John Petrucci ---
-I may have wasted all these years
But they're not worth their time in tears- "Trial of Tears"
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:00:41 +1000
From: Chris Aitken <aitkenc@ideal.net.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metal/Rock Radio Show Survey
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971012190041.0083dc40@mailman.ideal.net.au>
All righty peoples :)
The latest results are now up on the web.
Remember, if you are on any other mailing lists, please feel free to post
this survey so EVERYONE can get a chance to help this survey & have their say.
http://www.ideal.net.au/~aitkenc/metalsurveyresults.html
Also, if you would like to give the Survey a plug on your own web site,
there are now 4 different graphics to do that with.
You can still vote if you havent already.
http://www.ideal.net.au/~aitkenc/metalsurvey.html
Thanks to everyone who has voted.
Cheers
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Chris Aitken Web Page
aitkenc@ideal.net.au http://www.ideal.net.au/~aitkenc
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Very funny Scotty - Now beam down my clothes !!!!
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:51:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: DragynLMC3@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Toad's place...
Message-ID: <971012075116_1688838736@emout11.mail.aol.com>
hey peoples,
I emailed Toad's Place to see about the DT show and they said...
Subj: **Dream Theatre**
Date: 97-10-12 04:11:37 EDT
]From: TOADS PLAC
To: DragynLMC3
DEAR DRAGON,
There are plenty of tix left but going fast. You can buy them at any
strawberries or ticketmaster outlet or charge over the phone here at Toads
between 11am and 6pm Monday through Friday. call 203-562-5589.
Check out our website at www.toadsplace.com
See You,
The TOAD
well dammit, whats wrong with these people??? arg, its just very very
annoying.... Yes, i plan on going :} whoo hoo! see yall there!
~Lisa the annoyed jammer(et?)
DragynLMC3@aol.com
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