YTSEJAM Digest 2921
Today's Topics:
1) FII track order/WARNING!
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
2) Broken Glass demo tape now available!!!
by Jeff Perrot <jperrot@siue.edu>
3) Are There Any Australians On YTSEJAM?
by Jason Keily <s342953@student.uq.edu.au>
4) Savatage/FW News
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
5) dyslexic
by Raivo Hool <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
6) New purchases/special recommendation
by "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
7) ARKHE', JAG PANZER, THE QUIET ROOM, HAMMERFALL, SYMPHONY X, ...
by "Michael Kohsiek" <MKOHSIEK@jurs1.jura.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE>
8) CD scratch
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
9) album cover
by Thrak75@aol.com
10) Psyco Drama
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
11) Re: CD scratch
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2920
by Matt Robbins-McDaniel <cfi@disknet.com>
13) Fates in Finland
by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
14) New DT
by "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net>
15) Re: Savatage/FW News
by "Christian Albert Schulze a.k.a. KillMary" <caschulze@mindspring.com>
16) Europe
by "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net>
17) Re: Savatage/FW News
by "Christian Albert Schulze a.k.a. KillMary" <caschulze@mindspring.com>
18) woot and TAMP
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
19) Re: CD scratch
by Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 10:02:43 +0000
From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FII track order/WARNING!
Message-ID: <340A92BF.427B@westend.com>
Hi!
Just wondering... I saw Ernie's review and saw that the
song order was exactly like the one Mike posted. BUT the advance
tape has a slightly different order: NM, YNM, PS, HY, JLMB, AL,
side B: BMS/HK/LITS, TAMP, TOT.
I think they sorted the songs this way to fit them best on the
tape. So far, so good, could be done just for the advance tape, but
there is a soft fade from the end of TAMP into Trial of Tears,
and you don't do that just for an advance tape. Could be the final
*MC* version, meaning that they didn't cut anything.
BTW, everyone who has copies of the live versions with the new songs,
please do yourself a favor and *DON'T* listen to them anymore. I
did and now I have *TERRIBLE* problems getting used to the final
versions. Especially LITS got totally rearranged and some parts are
cut, so now for me everything is in the wrong order. So forget the
old versions and listen to some other stuff while you are waiting for
the new album. Seriously!
Later,
Steffen - THE MIRROR
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 03:12:16 -0500
From: Jeff Perrot <jperrot@siue.edu>
To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Broken Glass demo tape now available!!!
Message-ID: <340A78E0.98858F80@siue.edu>
Hello fellow Ytsejammers,
I just wanted to inform you of my band's recent studio release! We are
a St. Louis band called Broken Glass. We play several different styles
of hard rock, and on this album you will hear them all. I wanted to
tell you guys (and girls) because of our _progressive_ potential on a
few songs. Please check us out. I just got done putting up both wave
and Real Audio clips. Enjoy, and please let me know what you think!!!
Thanks!
Here's the page:
http://www.siue.edu/~jperrot/brknglass/ordertape.htm
Jeff Perrot
Broken Glass drummer
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 18:36:50 +1000 (GMT+1000)
From: Jason Keily <s342953@student.uq.edu.au>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Are There Any Australians On YTSEJAM?
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970901182820.30362A-100000@student.uq.edu.au>
I have just recently joined the Ytsejam mailing list, and I was
wondering if there were any other Australians who shared my love of Dream
Theater. They are one of the best bands I have ever heard.
_____________________________________________________________________________
DREAM THEATER, THE WORLD'S GREATEST BAND
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| JASON KEILY |
| s342953@student.uq.edu.au |
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 97 09:57:40 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Savatage/FW News
Message-ID: <M.090197.115740.54@wxs1-2.worldaccess.nl>
Er...am I stupid or wasn't Queensryche the first band to play an entire album
(during the 1990 "Building Empires" tour they played all of "Operation
Mindcrime"). So that beats Savatage, Fates Warning *and* Marillion.
Just my two cents (Dutch cents, not dollarcents). :-)
-- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" Gwar FUQ & Atari ST Emulation FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Keyboard not found. Press any key to continue." | \--------------------------------------------------------------/------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 13:16:21 +0300 (EET DST) From: Raivo Hool <raitz@guvatrak.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dyslexic Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970901131426.12558A-100000@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
> If you're cross-eyed and have dyslexia, can you read all right?
Q: How do you recognize an agnostic dyslexic insomniac? A: He stays up all night wondering if there truly is a Dog.
Raitz
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 13:52:22 +0200 From: "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de> To: "The Ytsejam Crowd" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New purchases/special recommendation Message-ID: <9709011153.AA27899@server3.software-ag.de>
Hi all
more new CDs moved from my local CD dealer to my room at the weekend. No really new stuff, so I won't provide reviews - if you want any infos about them, drop me a line. I will, however, write a bit here about one of the bands, because I'm sure some of you people will like the very unusual music they make.
First the new arrivals:
Alastis - ...And Death Smiled Samael - Ceremony Of Opposites Celestial Season - Solar Lovers Summoning - Lugburz Elend - Lecons De Tenebres
Anybody who likes music that is almost classical, yet at the same time dark, heavy and extremely beautiful should listen to Elend. Best described as dark wave/gothic/black, this unique band don't use any of the instruments you woud normally associate with this description - no guitars, no drums, no bass. Instead you will hear all manner of keyboards used very ochestrally, together with violins, male vocals and screams (real screams, not black metal grunts), and soprano solos (only one singer on this album, but two on the second). The lyrics are in English, French and Latin and are a sort of luciferian cycle based on Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost. This must be the most beautiful and soothing 'metal' music I've ever heard. Elend's CDs may be difficult to find Stateside, but try and get a listen - you will be doing yourself a big favour.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Fredrik Thorendal - Sol Niger Within
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:02:31 100 From: "Michael Kohsiek" <MKOHSIEK@jurs1.jura.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ARKHE', JAG PANZER, THE QUIET ROOM, HAMMERFALL, SYMPHONY X, ... Message-ID: <992A3BE71ED@jurs1.jura.uni-osnabrueck.de>
Hi Metal-Heads!
You want to read everything about the new CD's from
SAVATAGE
ARKHE
THE QUIET ROOM
HAMMERFALL
JAG PANZER
GAMMA RAY
and many more? Then check out my homepage at
URL: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/5007
Always, always metal on!!
Michael
*************************************************** * Homepage * * http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/5007 * * * * "So where do we begin * * and what else can we say? * * When the lines are all drawn * * What should we do today?" * * * * Michael Kohsiek * * Blumenesch 8a Siegerlandstr.15 * * 49078 Osnabrueck 48527 Nordhorn * * Tel.: 0541/43771 05921/722272 * * Germany * * * ***** "still writing letters in my head..." ******
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 09:02:55 -0400 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CD scratch Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970901090150.0068576c@mail.ici.net>
>Aaaaaarrrrgghhh!!!! my car's cd player has scratched the hell outa my I&W >cd. *SCREAM* this really sux. looks like my Sony cd player is going to >the shop while i shop for a new cd. i really hate to think of what the cd >that's currently in the car must look like
Your CD player scratched the CD? How? I'm serious here, if you get a diagnosis like that from whoever fixes that for you, please let me know. I've *never* heard of that happening, and I used to sell the things. :)
To tie this in with the virus hoaxes, this reminds me of a guy who swore his computer caught a virus that made his 3 1/2 floppy drive "stick its pins" into any disk, thus ruining it. Even insisted he'd mail examples to anyone to prove it. Took us quite a few posts to explain that a floppy disk drive doesn't *have* any such pins.
Unless he had one of them new-fangled dox-matrix disk drives. :)
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________ E-Mail: psull@ici.net WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator ICQ: 2049374 ______________________________________________________ If you're cross-eyed and have dyslexia, can you read all right?
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 10:14:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: album cover Message-ID: <970901101423_1952362227@emout08.mail.aol.com>
.............finally, a GOOD album cover. i love storm.
ytsegoon
****************************************************************************** * david y. kobayashi thrak75@aol.com
"better to save the mystery than surrender to the secret." -j. petrucci ****************************************************************************** *
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 97 14:15:20 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: Psyco Drama Message-ID: <M.090197.161520.25@wxs2-16.worldaccess.nl>
For those among you who want to listen to something outside of more usual bands the likes of Fates, Queensryche and Rush, I'd like to recommend a band called Psyco Drama, who have recently released their second album, entitled "Bent" (maybe Derek would like it, too :-) ). Their first album, "The Illusion", was released on Leviathan, but this second one is out on Massacre. I am unfamiliar with "The Illusion", but "Bent" is a seriously excellent album, prog metal enriched with a killer groove. Good singer, too. Do yourself a favour and have a listen (but don't pick out the one weaker track, "Change") -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" Gwar FUQ & Atari ST Emulation FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Keyboard not found. Press any key to continue." | \--------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 12:21:29 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: CD scratch Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970901121825.29567A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Pat Sullivan wrote:
> >Aaaaaarrrrgghhh!!!! my car's cd player has scratched the hell outa my I&W > >cd. *SCREAM* this really sux. looks like my Sony cd player is going to > >the shop while i shop for a new cd. i really hate to think of what the cd > >that's currently in the car must look like > > Your CD player scratched the CD? How? I'm serious here, if you get a > diagnosis like that from whoever fixes that for you, please let me know. > I've *never* heard of that happening, and I used to sell the things. :)
Well, I have some CDs that are scratched and then my CD player skips some tracks (of course, I hate that).
So, I'd like to know from you guys: have you ever used those "CD repair kits" with success?? I know that there are at least two products (but maybe, much, much more) called "CD Saver" and "CDTek" that claim to remove every single scratch of your CDs and let them play smothly in your CD player.
Is this truth???
Thank you very much for any reviews/experiences, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 11:24:10 -0500 From: Matt Robbins-McDaniel <cfi@disknet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2920 Message-ID: <340AEC2A.7F49@disknet.com>
> Sorry to disappoint you dude, but Fates are not the first band ever to do > this, in recent memory Marillion performed the whole of the 'Brave' album > 72 odd minutes, during the 'Brave' tour, they did film the last gig of the > tour, but that was only for Mexico PPV TV, which subsiquently was > bootlegged many times. > But they did make a movie based on the 'Brave' album.
I don't know who did it first, but Queensryche has also done this in the past with their Operation: Mindcrime album. Not only that, but they released the boxset "Operation: Livecrime," which included a CD and Videotape of a concert off the Mindcrime tour (with the exact same tracklisting as the studio CD. Great concept. I'd like to see Savatage do it with their Dead Winter Dead album.
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 08:44:40 PDT From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates in Finland Message-ID: <19970901154440.17239.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey Jammers.
Sorry for the NDTC folks, but I gotta ask this:
Can anyone of you finnish jammers tell me, where I can find Fates Warning records in Finland?Iīm particularly interested of obtaining Apsog(Thanks to Dr.Mosh for putting those clips of it to his page.Very cool!).I canīt find it anywhere! E-mail me privately, please. -Vilzu-
"I can learn to resist,anything but temptation" Rush:"Resist" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 10:52:00 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New DT Message-ID: <340AE4A0.4EA7CCA3@netins.net>
Howdy all, Does anybody have any good wavs or mp3s of 'burning my soul?'. I'm thinking about putting together a little demo CD for a couple of local radio stations. I downloaded one mp3 off of somebody's site but it sounds like it is a bootleg and the quality isn't the best. I'm hoping to throw BMS and YNM on a CD and distribute it a little. I called one station yesterday to request it and they had no idea what I was talking about. Appearently East West doesn't find it neccassary to send out many promos. So, I thought I'd do it for them. With the cost of blank CDs being as low as it is I figure it's worth it. I already have YNM off of Dr Mosh's site, but if anybody out there has any other higher quality wavs or mp3s that I could send out, let me know.
thanks todd
Todd O. Klindt, MCSE
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christian Albert Schulze a.k.a. KillMary" <caschulze@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Savatage/FW News Message-ID: <199709011556.LAA17723@brickbat9.mindspring.com>
Richard Karsmakers: > Er...am I stupid or wasn't Queensryche the first band to play an entire= album=20 >(during the 1990 "Building Empires" tour they played all of "Operation=20 >Mindcrime"). So that beats Savatage, Fates Warning *and* Marillion. > Just my two cents (Dutch cents, not dollarcents). :-)
Well, now that we're on that subject, didn't The Who play the whole Tommy opera when they first released the album? What year was that... 1273 A.C.? :-) (probably like 1970, I'm just guessing...) Let's not forget Pink Floyd's The Wall either... but that was more recently... like 1979 A.D. ;-)
I think there are a lot of albums that, albeit not being concept albums per se, should be played as a whole... I was quite pleased when on Queensr=FFche= 's Road to the Promised Land tour they played the whole album... though not in the original sequence, and they had songs from other albums in between... but it was still pretty cool.
I'd really like to see DT play Images and Words from start to end someday... It probably won't happen, but I'm so used to listening to the whole CD - I have no idea how many times I did that already (I'm not a Shuffle button kinda guy)... so it's like I feel one song calling for the other... and Awake is starting to feel the same way ;-)
I like the album cover for FII. Change is good. Let's have confidence in the boys. They know what they're doing.
~KillthatwhorefromtheundergroundMary
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 10:56:38 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Europe Message-ID: <340AE5B6.9C73EC51@netins.net>
Hi again, I'm gonna be over in Germany and Holland in October and I was wondering if there's any music or special european copies of CDs I should get. I'm already gonna look for Symphony X since their German import is about $30 I think I'll just wait until I'm over there and get it myself. I know I'm gonna be spending a couple of days in Munich, does anybody have any suggestions for tourist stops? If there's anything a music lover such as myself can't live without, let me know.
thanks todd
Todd O. Klindt, MCSE
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christian Albert Schulze a.k.a. KillMary" <caschulze@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Savatage/FW News Message-ID: <199709011558.LAA18539@brickbat9.mindspring.com>
On the subject of playing entire concept albums...
Oh! I forgot Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon from 1973. I know they played the whole thing because I read on an interview that David Gilmour said that they were playing it on the Division Bell tour for the first time since 1973... Since I don't know exactly when Tommy came out, this might be the first one... but I think Tommy came out first.
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 18:25:20 +0000 From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: woot and TAMP Message-ID: <340B088B.919@westend.com>
Hi!
I was just writing a short review of TAMP for the actual newsletter of the German fanclub, when I read your mail (YJ 2906) so I thought I should warn you.
TAMP is NOT emotional at all ;-) The live version many of you have heard is totally different to the final version! I did *not* like the live version, because it was very predictable and boring. And *I* thought it was still too happy for the sad lyrics.
Now when I heard the studio version, I had to laugh: How do you call this? Soul? Adult contemporary? Anyway, it's less dynamic, more laid back, and even more happy than the old version. I had to smile all the time I heard this one! I think I really like it. I just don't understand what it has to do with JP's father's death...
Later,
Steffen - THE MIRROR
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:52:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: CD scratch Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970901113808.11126A-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Pat Sullivan wrote: > >Aaaaaarrrrgghhh!!!! my car's cd player has scratched the hell outa my I&W > >cd. *SCREAM* this really sux. looks like my Sony cd player is going to > >the shop while i shop for a new cd. i really hate to think of what the cd > >that's currently in the car must look like > > Your CD player scratched the CD? How? I'm serious here, if you get a > diagnosis like that from whoever fixes that for you, please let me know. > I've *never* heard of that happening, and I used to sell the things. :)
I don't know exactly how, and I'd imagine it would vary depending on what sort of mechanical gadgetry was inside the player, but it can happen. My copy of 'Awake' has a perfectly-circular, on-center scratch, right at the end of 'Caught it a Web'. My Sony boom box gets there and stops; my Fisher discman and Pontiac-stock in-dash player cruise through it, but play 'ca-au-au-au-ght i-in a-a-a w-e-e-e-eb, re-e-e-e-f-u-uused by-y the world'; and my Onkyo changer at home plays it just fine. But anyway, I would assume a circular scratch could only be made by a CD player, since I take good care of my discs (no frisbee games or gravel in the jewel cases :)
And x-105 in Minneapolis is doing an '80's weekend'. Which means I've gotta wait another whole day before I even have a _chance_ of hearing the new DT. Augh!
--Jay "but it was kinda cool to hear '18 and life' on the radio" Omega --NP: Shadowland - Ring of Roses
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