YTSEJAM Digest 2925
Today's Topics:
1) Eland
by rbeall@fdldotnet.com (Grim88)
2) Help!
by "Mark Fitchett" <mafit@classic.msn.com>
3) Savatage's "Wake of Magellan" for sale
by Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de>
4) Snares
by Andrew Berry <andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk>
5) UAGM MIDI
by Francisco Miguel <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt>
6) Re: Help!
by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
7) Re: Snares
by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
8) Attn: Brian Reeves
by Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net>
9) Sorta Back from nowhere
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
10) San Diego Jammers
by bwrights@dnaent.com (Bill Wrightson)
11) Re: Vixen???
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
12) DT mp3
by fascia@eerie.fr
13) Keyboard Equipment For Sale
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
14) Re: virus hoaxes
by Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il>
15) Falling Into Infinity
by Jason Nixon <dumont@net-link.net>
16) Marillion in Rochester
by "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
17) YTSEJAM digest 2923 -Reply
by Jennifer Detjen <detjenjl@FLAGLER.EDU>
18) Question regarding Chromakey
by Morten Henriksen <mhenriks@lodde.hia.no>
19) Mike Portnoy
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:26:08 -0500
From: rbeall@fdldotnet.com (Grim88)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Eland
Message-ID: <199709021226.HAA22041@fdl.fdldotnet.com>
Whoever mentioned the band Eland a few digests ago, please Email me. I have
some questions I would like to ask.
Ryan Beall aka: Grim88 Look for me in #innmonine on Efnet
rbeall@fdl.fdldotnet.com grim88@hotmail.com grim88@as-if.com
http://members.tripod.com/~Grim88/index.html
"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall through an open
sewer and die." - Mel Brooks
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 97 17:09:22 UT
From: "Mark Fitchett" <mafit@classic.msn.com>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Help!
Message-ID: <UPMAIL06.199709021145580503@classic.msn.com>
Would someone be kind enough to send me Ytsejams 2917 and 2918. My ISP has
been mucking about with my E-mail address (in fact all UK MSN members
apparently) and I think this unsubscribed me.
Thanks for you time,
P.s. anyone found out yet about FII's UK release date?
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 97 13:52:18 +0200
From: Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, bglist@bigfoot.com, angra-l@parasite.cena.usp.br
Subject: Savatage's "Wake of Magellan" for sale
Message-ID: <9709021152.AA06355@zeusa1.desy.de>
Well I never got the check from some guy in the US so the promo fully
complete verion of "The Wake of Magellan" that I have is up for sale
again. I am in Germany but I will accept checks on American banks (or
other arrangements we can agree upon). I was thinking $25 for the
CD. E-mail me if you are interested. Thanks.
Jason
-- Jason Breitweg, breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg "The time long forgotten will soon come again, prepare for the meeting, the Gods of Metal reign" - HammerFall------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 11:08:11 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Berry <andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Snares Message-ID: <Marcel-1.26-0902100811-0b0evuQ@aberry.demon.co.uk>
OK... this might sound like a strange question, but here goes:
Can anyone who has listened to FII material comment on the drum sounds, especially the snare? A bad snare sound really puts me off a recording, and the snare on ACOS really annoyed me the first time I heard it - too much ring and too much of a note - and I still don't like it now. The snare sounds on IaW and Awake were both perfect, so I'm hoping the snare on the new album is along those lines.
I gather some people like snares to have a note and a ring to them... strange. ;-)
-- +--Andrew Berry (webmaster, Metal Links) ----------------------------------+ | 4700 links to metal pages - http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk/metallinks/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I'm closing all the doors while my frown remains, | | Until I reach my golden haven I'll let the sadness pass my way." | +----------------------------------------------------- Paradise Lost ------+
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 13:26:49 +0200 From: Francisco Miguel <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: UAGM MIDI Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970902112649.0066f1d8@mail.telepac.pt>
I recently downloaded a few different versions of the 'Under A Glass Moon' MIDI , but some of them have some really strange errors. Does anyone have a good MIDI file of this song or know where I can get one?
Thanks
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 97 15:00:52 +0200 From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Help! Message-ID: <9709021300.AA22921@star8.star8>
At 05:37 02.09.97 -0700, you wrote: > >Would someone be kind enough to send me Ytsejams 2917 and 2918. My ISP has >been mucking about with my E-mail address (in fact all UK MSN members >apparently) and I think this unsubscribed me. > >Thanks for you time, > >P.s. anyone found out yet about FII's UK release date?
Why? Is it to be released in the UK, too? ..just kidding.
j@n ================================================================== = Jan Ziese = +49 (0) 7738 / 99 858 = jzi@star-ag.ch = ================================================================== = Everything works if you let it = = (Travis Redfish, the greatest roadie on earth) = ==================================================================
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 97 15:07:02 +0200 From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Snares Message-ID: <9709021307.AA22969@star8.star8>
At 05:44 02.09.97 -0700, you wrote: > > >OK... this might sound like a strange question, but here goes: > >Can anyone who has listened to FII material comment on the drum sounds, >especially the snare? A bad snare sound really puts me off a recording, >and the snare on ACOS really annoyed me the first time I heard it - too >much ring and too much of a note - and I still don't like it now. The >snare sounds on IaW and Awake were both perfect, so I'm hoping the snare >on the new album is along those lines. > >I gather some people like snares to have a note and a ring to them... >strange. ;-)
Boy, I am glad that my ears (or brains?) are not sensitive enough to realize something like that. Would be too bad if I disliked ACOS just because of some snare that's ringing too much! ;-)
By the way: What exactly is a SNARE? (just kiddin'...)
j@n ================================================================== = Jan Ziese = +49 (0) 7738 / 99 858 = jzi@star-ag.ch = ================================================================== = Everything works if you let it = = (Travis Redfish, the greatest roadie on earth) = ==================================================================
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:29:00 +0000 ( ) From: Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net> To: DT Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Attn: Brian Reeves Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970902132748.9275A-100000@scc.net>
Brian, if you're out there, please e-mail me with your mailing address. I need to know where to send your CD!!!
Thanks, Dr. Teeth
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 08:32:57 -0500 From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sorta Back from nowhere Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970902133257.00e14c38@pop.enteract.com>
Hey yall,
I sort of have internet access again. You guys are making me go crazy thinking about this new album! I can't wait now... it's a matter of willpower not to ask some of my friends to send me a tape copy (if anyone wants to mail me a CD copy though, e-mail me and I'll happily supply you with my address). I am totally pumped for this new album!!!
A couple things: Dream Theater will be on tour again in the cold and icky months (screw you, CA and AZ type people who don't get bad weather. :) So it has become a pressing thought to me that we might consider making a new line of ytsejam shirts, in a very limitted run, on long sleeve t's instead of short sleeves. New design and everything. Anyone else think this might be a good idea? Something with Majesty symbols down one sleeve, or something cool like that...
And my new "end of post" idea: From now on I will include a piece of trivial music-world knowledge at the end of each post (if I can remember to do so). Since this is fun information, I'd like to see some other people do it too. I know some of yall are storing up nuggets of silly band facts and stuff. Spew away!
-- Jason Becker, while on tour with Cacophony, used to play an unaccompanied solo each night. The most interesting thing about the solo, besides the sick and twisted licks, was the end, where he'd play Eddie Ban Halen's "Erruption".... ONE HANDED, with a Yo-Yo in the other hand!--
- Chris
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:46:20 -0500 From: bwrights@dnaent.com (Bill Wrightson) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: San Diego Jammers Message-ID: <199709021346.IAA25956@lotus.dnaent.com>
Can anyone in or around San Diego fill me in on what (if any) good CD stores there are and where they are located. I was also wandering if there are any good concerts the week of September 14. I will be in town that week and any information I can get would be much appreciated.
Thanks, Bill Wrightson
*************************************************************************** ** Bill Wrightson email: bwrights@dnaent.com ** ** DNA Enterprises, INC. voice: (972) 671-1972 ext: 267 ** ** 1240 E. Campbell Road fax: (972) 671-1581 ** ** Richardson, Tx 75081 http://www.dnaent.com ** ***************************************************************************
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 10:11:11 -0400 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Vixen??? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970902101111.01026100@pophost.fore.com>
John Petrucci himself stated that he was not related to Roxy Petrucci from Vixen. Why would he lie about this. Can't we take his word for it?
KAI
At 11:50 AM 8/30/97 -0700, you wrote: > >>>I ran into one of the DJ's from our local rock station. Her name is Jean >Taylor, >>>and she used to be in the band Vixen > >Man I had that album! Don't laugh! I do remember the name Roxy Petrucci= but >dismissed it as coincidence that her name was the same as the DT guitarist= we >all love. Go figure. I think I got 50=A2 from the CD store for that >album..... > >Pauly > >-"You wanna tie me up with some of your ties, Ty?" > -Another good Caddyshack quote > >-"I've been living on the edge of a broken heart" > -Long forgotten Vixen lyrics > >
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:02:37 +0200 From: fascia@eerie.fr To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT mp3 Message-ID: <199709021502.RAA01145@solar5>
Hi,
can someone tell me where to find out some DT mp3 (especially some of the new album) and the date of the realese of the new album in Europe (France) ?
Thank you in advance.
Marc
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 97 10:22:11 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng" To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Keyboard Equipment For Sale Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+A+01oA@tcx.tcco.com>
After many years of gigs, my uncle is hanging up his keyboards in order to "get a real job". If any of you keyboardists out there are looking for equipment (Ensoniq VFX-SD, EV S18 speaker, etc), please email me and I will tell you what he's got.
I almost got him to goto the Fix for 96 show with me after he saw the "Live in Tokyo" video, but he said "that singer has the most annoying voice...".
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 19:06:26 +0300 From: Shai Yallin <Yallin@Netvision.net.il> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: virus hoaxes Message-ID: <340C3982.42B1@Netvision.net.il>
JamesAhab@aol.com wrote: > "I don't like Dream Theater that much, but; I had a pen and a piece of paper, > so, what the fuck!" - Kevin Moore
I think it's more like: "I don't like Dream Theater that much, but I had a pen and some papers, so what the fuck...."
But, what the heck......
-- Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM
"Yauza Yauza Yauza...." - Frank Zappa "You say you want everyone happy. Well, we're not laughing..." - John Petrucci, "Scarred"
Visit my home page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 12:54:43 -0400 From: Jason Nixon <dumont@net-link.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Falling Into Infinity Message-ID: <340C44D3.2547@net-link.net>
And now for my $.02 on the new Dream Theater...
1. A New Millenium --- This is an excellent song! It combines the sounds of both Awake and I&W in parts, and then goes off into it's own thing with even parts with just Myung and Portnoy that are DAMN groovy! NO ONE will be disappointed by this one! Superb guitar/keyboard harmonies in the instrumental section between John and Derek ala Metropolis... just fantastic kick your ass song man...
2. You Not Me --- Everyone has heard enough about this one or has heard it already. It is starting to grow on me...
3. Peruvian Skies --- The beginning of this song TOTALLY reminds me of "Bleeding Me" by Metallica, does anyone else agree? Well, it gets real Floydish throughout the first half and especially the chorus, but the second half it gets heavy and damn cool!!! The chorus is resung over a fast tempo with a take the time pace and it is GREAT!!!
4. Hollow Years --- Hmmm... I like this one. The Spanish guitar is classy with a nice feel to it w/ the keyboards... real commercial though... almost like "La Isla Bonita" by Madonna, or that one Bryan Adams song, I think "Have you ever really loved a woman " or something... but it is done in the style of DT and is REAL catchy so I like it, FOR NOW...
5. Burning My Soul --- Now this is another one that I really dig... The bass is really present on this album and totally on this song! It is REAL heavy and menacing... a really cool verse groove too, but it is almost like White Zombie, like the verse riff to "More Human than Human" if there was guitar with the bass... The chorus is so cool with a lot of energy ala TTT or UAGM and when KJLB sings "Burning my Soul..." I think it is MP who does backing vocals in baritone. Very cool solo by Derek in the middle too.
6. Hell's Kitchen --- YESSSSSS!!!! Great totally emotional instrumental! Very triumphant sounding, just great! especially the last 30 seconds or so. Just awesome... wait and see!
7. Lines in the Sand --- This is a very good prog/bluesy song with a lot of changes... I am sure this one has a lot of potential to be my fave, it is just gonna take some getting used to because it has such a new sound to it. Total Derek influence in this one. Doug P. rocks! Cool middle slow solo by Petrucci.
8. Take Away My Pain --- Isn't this one supposed to be sad, about JP's fathers death? But even if it is happy about death... This one is just commercial, happy in almost a cheesy way man... NO ONE is this happy about someone dying... THere is some sadness in the solo by JP though and that is a real bright spot in this song... Otherwise, I can really take or leave this one...
9. Just Let Me Breathe --- This one moves so fast it tears yer nads off!!! It is real cool, but just seems to move by so fast... and the vocals are all over the place, not sung but like talked in a fast pace, just REAL different... gonna have to be heard... Kick ass soloing once again though!
10. Anna Lee --- A lot like queen and Elton John like everyone else has been saying... This is another one I can take or leave though so far... haven't really gotten into it as much as the others... Begins with piano and then ends up with the whole band at the end...
11. Trial Of Tears --- WOW!!!!! Prolly my fave presently... just fantastic... made up of three parts 1. It's Raining... 2. Deep in Heaven 3. The Wasteland . Catchy in some parts and total soloing in others... in the beginning and end it is totally like Xanadu by Rush with the temple blocks Portnoy uses and like the effects... total new age... but damn great... I LOVE IT, AND YOU WILL TOO!!! hehe, :P
Well, there ya got it, my semi-brief summary of the new album... Hope I didn't piss anyone off! Hope someone found this post useful!
Jason (a.k.a. nixonburg)
PS.... No, I am not President Nixon's long lost son! :)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 12:20:27 +0000 From: "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Marillion in Rochester Message-ID: <199709021622.MAB75116@node1.frontiernet.net>
Hello all,
As my subject states, I saw Marillion on sunday night in Rochester (NY). All I have to say is that they are an amazingly powerful band live. I really don't know a lot of Marillion, I only have one cd (Afraid of Sunlight), but I decided to go to the show anyway. I didn't stay 'till the end 'cause I was with my sister and her friend, and they could only take so much of my kind of music. Actually they both said that Marillion was really good, but they're not much for watching bands live (more the dance club type). Anyway, I was really impressed with the club. It's called the Spectrum, and it used to be an old church. The entire time I was thinking that this would be a great place for DT to play. I think it held 1400 or so. So if that is the kind of size of clubs DT is going to play, I think it would be perfect. Nice big stage, and plenty of room in front of it. Anyway, that's all for now.
-Brian Anderson
p.s. J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets!! (yeah I admit it, I'm a Jets fan)
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 13:18:54 -0400 From: Jennifer Detjen <detjenjl@FLAGLER.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2923 -Reply Message-ID: <s40c1261.035@FLAGLER.EDU>
HOw the hell do I stop getting these cursed messages all the time??? I thought it was going to be cool seeing as my favorite band is DT but it just got really irritating when I got back to school from my loving summer break to find 487 postings of Ytsejammer stuff piled up in my mailbox! Could someone kindly write me how I could get off of this mailing list?? Thanks.
Let light surround you, Jenni
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 19:30:25 From: Morten Henriksen <mhenriks@lodde.hia.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Question regarding Chromakey Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19970902193025.2fe76864@mail3.grm.hia.no>
Hi everyone!
I've been on a long holiday away from computers and stuff. So now I need some information about Chromakey. I've heard some rumours about a CD release in May, but I don't know if this has happened. I've tried the Chromakey home page but the news was last updated 4.Feb '97, so that didn't help much.
Please, someone help me
Cheers, Morten Henriksen mhenriks@pc.grm.hia.no
------------------------------------------------- "Head in my hands - Dripping tears in the sand The roar of the lions As the victim lies damned and alone......."
ARENA "Solomon" -------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:35:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Portnoy Message-ID: <199709021735.NAA26210@umbc8.umbc.edu>
> Steve Z wrote- >> I don't know about that part.but there is a part in ACOS<in "The >> Crimson Sunset" <where he goes into 12/8 and hits the hat on the second >> eighth note of each triplet> and his timing gets way off. > > Are you nuts?!!?!?!?!!!
No.
> There is nothing wrong with MP's timing here.
Yes, there is. He starts off fine, but by the end he is rushing. He goes in and out of time, and he is NOT doing 128th-note syncopations.
> If there were he would have recorded it over!!!!!
Then tell me why, in the same part, they didn't rerecord James' vocals. In the "life goes on the offbeaten track" and "even though I'll be gone..." parts his pitch is bad. His voice sounds tired, and he is flat.
Bands do NOT catch everything. When you're recording a 23 min.+ song, especially.
> Duh!!!!
Duh, yourself.
> I have been quiet about all the MP bashing on his time and timing.
And I would have said no more myself if your rebuttal had not been so arrogant.
> I am a drummer and have been for 15 years and play in a lot of > situations. I can read music but most of all I can count.
Good for you. I wish you much success.
> If you can count this over you'll see you don't know what > the hell you were talking about.
just because YOU don't know what the hell I'm talking about doesn't mean that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
> the timing or MP "made a mistake" is utter Bullshit!!!!!!!!!! IF THERE WAS A > MISTAKE IN THE STUDIO THEY WOULD HAVE RECOREDED THE SONG OVER. IF THEY LEFT > IT ON THERE IT WAS INTENDED TO BE HEARD THAT WAY. NO MISTAKES!!!!!!!!
Bullshit. Everyone makes mistakes. When you're in the studio and have deadlines and it's 4 in the morning and you have to record a difficult drum part, you do the best you can. Maybe it's not perfect, but there comes a point where a drummer will say "close enough." I don't claim to know what the situation was at this point of recording ACoS, but I still contend that the timing wavers here.
> By the way,I have been in the studio before.So I do have real perspective on > what goes on in there. They don't let obvious mistakes on the record.
If that were true, there are many bands out there from whom we never would have heard anything, the very least of which being Led Zep and Nirvana.
Who are "they", anyway?
I NEVER said it was an "obvious mistake." It is a difficult part that, as it exists on record, is perfectly acceptable to the casual listener. Upon closer scrutinization, however, timing imperfections can be heard.
Steve Z
------------------------------
End of YTSEJAM Digest 2925 **************************
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Thu Apr 01 2004 - 17:59:49 EST