YTSEJAM Digest 2937
Today's Topics:
1) Lemur Voice and shtuff...
by Riffinator@aol.com
2) Pointless followup
by Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
3) YNM & Galactic Cowboys
by Renob125@aol.com
4) Rudess/Morgenstein
by Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net>
5) FII album cover?
by Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu>
6) WatchTower
by "Anthony N. Sciamanna" <st96d6z4@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu>
7) Lang, Hanson, Prog...how's that for odd matchups
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2934
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2936
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
10) Re: Eckie's rant
by "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
11) Crimson Glory is back!
by Perk1994@aol.com
12) Re: STOP
by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
13) Gridiron Kings of the 'Jam (current status)
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
14) Re: DT Bootleg discography
by s963713@ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp (SUZUKI Jun'ya)
15) New Stratovarius site on the web
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi>
16) Patrick Taylor
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
17) WDADU
by "David Rothlisberger" <drothlis@clear.net.nz>
18) re: samplers
by yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net>
19) Re: WDADU
by Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch>
20) faqqin faq...
by erw <opk@hlti.fi>
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2935
by "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer2@worldnet.att.net>
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 23:13:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Riffinator@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lemur Voice and shtuff...
Message-ID: <970904231142_609760234@emout03.mail.aol.com>
Hey all, this is only my second time posting, but I've been reading the jam
for quite some time now. I just wanna say to those who still need a prog-fix
before FII hits the shelves, go get Lemur Voice's cd "Insights", if you
haven't already. It kix ass! The CD sounds a lot like a combination b/t I&W
and Awake. Lots of jaw-dropping instrumental, odd-meter, heavy sh*t on this
album, esp. the songs Intuition, Akasha Chronicles, More of Nothing, and
Prime of Passion. Well, nuff said about that before I start naming half the
damn songs on the album! Anyway, it took me a while to find the CD but it
was definitely worth it IMO.
Also, I'm just curious, do any of you jammers live in SC (or the southeast
for that matter)? I'm at USC right now trying to get a band together. Email
me if interested.
-Drew
"Let Nothing Bleed into Nothing and Did Nothing at All" -APSoG
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:18:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Pointless followup
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970904221346.11580A-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
Heard the commercial again. They mention the boys!
"...Aerosmith" <soundbite> "and all new... Dream
Theater" <soundbite>.
Excellent!
--Jay "did I mention 'Woohoo' before?" Omega
--NP: Megadeth's "99 Ways to Die" on x-105
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 23:29:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Renob125@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YNM & Galactic Cowboys
Message-ID: <970904223809_601232202@emout15.mail.aol.com>
A jammer wrote:
>> Maybe it's just me, but this song sounds like it's off of "Space in Your
>>Face" by the Galactic Cowboys...um...but...like...heavier and better and
>>stuff.
I noticed GC similarities at the end of You Not Me. At times the song sounds
a LOT like Psychotic Companion, especially the guy talking at the end. "I'm
going to Hawaii, I'm going to Hawaii." The guitar/keyboards is very
reminiscent
too, at least to me anyway.
Pauly
"Now that you're on the beat, I hope we're going to see lots of gratuitous
sex
and violence"
"I hope so too."
-James Bond replies to Q's wish in Never Say Never Again
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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 23:33:08 -0400
From: Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rudess/Morgenstein
Message-ID: <340F7D74.5A055408@snet.net>
Just talked (E-mail) with Jordan Rudess and I thought I would pass this
information along to you 'Jammers
The Rudess Morgenstein Project will be playing in NYC at Irving Plaza on
Sept 11th opening for Marillion. Show time is 9:00. IF YOU HAVENT SEEN
THESE GUYS AND CAN GET TO THIS SHOW DO IT - THEY ARE EXCELLENT. Also,
although I am not familiar with Marillion, I hear they are also very
good.
He also said their new album is shipping later this month!!!!!!
They are presently in Holland for a Music Fair and some interviews.
He said he has heard the new DT album, and said "It sounds great! More
song oriented with the prog edge still totally there..." This makes the
wait for the new album even more unbearable.
-- Michael PomerleauE-mail: (Home) michael_pomerleau@SNET.NET OR mpomerle@ct1.nai.net (Work) michael_pomerleau@adc.com
Visit My Home Page at http://w3.nai.net/~mpomerle
Who knows where the Cold Wind Blows... I ask my friends, but nobody knows... WHITESNAKE . . . 'Love ain't no Stranger'
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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 22:32:40 -0700 From: Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FII album cover? Message-ID: <340F9978.7E89@sunflowr.usd.edu>
I heard that someone has a pic of the new DT album cover on their web page and that it was posted on one of the Jams recently. I couldn't find that posting. Could someone please enlighten me?
Thanks
Steven Thum sthum@sundance.usd.edu
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:02:28 -0500 From: "Anthony N. Sciamanna" <st96d6z4@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WatchTower Message-ID: <v03007800b035417830cb@DialupEudora>
To whomever was asking about WatchTower: They have gotten back together and started work on their third album (which they started writing in '91). Jason McMaster (who was the original vocalist and left to form Dangerous Toys) is back in the band. You can find more info. at: http://www.spasticink.com
-Anthony Sciamanna
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 97 23:02:48 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lang, Hanson, Prog...how's that for odd matchups Message-ID: <340f8468026f002@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> What is the problem with Hanson? You could say they are a product > of midia, commercial sound, etc. Hell on it!!! When I hear their songs I > feel happy, they put me up. I don't even care for how they are classified > by you, I like them and just it. Such as johnny Lang, a blues guy by > definition. It has all the qualities to make his music sound bluesy, > except the fact he isn't black for some guy here... :-D Can't you see > quality or felling on other kind of music not progressive or progressive
There's not a problem with Hanson in and of themselves...live and let live. My point was just that the reason they're popular is not their music, which is standard pop fare. It's because of the gimmick - their ages. Lang is the same. I've heard countless blues players that are WAY better but don't have half the exposure, including some personal friends of mine. He's big for two reasons: his age, and the fact that his dad is buddy-buddy with a record company bigwig.
As for only liking prog, I actually don't like most prog. I find DT to be a wonderful band (my second favorite) with lots of emotion, but to me that's an exception in the prog world (of course, some people don't even consider DT prog, but that's another story). I think most "prog" bands are boring. My favorite musicians are Zeppelin, DT, Pearl Jam, U2, Al Stewart (a great acoustic player), Megadeth, Sabbath, Allman Brothers, BB King, Little Walter, etc....
-Brian
******************************************************************************** Official Countdown to release of Dream Theater's "Falling Into Infinity": 19 Days and counting! ******************************************************************************** "The sweet taste of vindication turns to ashes in your mouth." - Dave Mustaine ********************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:03:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2934 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.970904235020.94168C-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
Just a quick note: if you're going to get on East/West's case about supporting the DT album on radio, make sure to contact their RADIO PROMOTIONS department. Also, here's an idea. As you may or nay not know, I'm an avid reader of Metal Edge magazine, which I consider to be the premier hard rock magazine in the country. They are the only one of the magazines from the 80s (RIP, Circus, Hit Parader, etc) that continue to give constant and favorable coverage to my favorite bands (meaning they didn't sell out when grunge and alternative hit). What's my point? Well, as luck would have it, they have an e-mail address. I propose that we, the Ytsejam Collective, e-mail Metal Edge and demand coverage for DT to coincide with the new album. It is my understanding that in the new issue there will be some sort of feature story on the boys, but let's make sure that editor knows how large the DT fan base is. In the past, they have always been favorable to DT, so it seems like a pretty safe bet that it won't take much arm-twisting to convince them do a lot of stories on them: they just need to know that the people want to read it. Here's the info:
Editor: Gerri Miller (female)
Suggestions: Be polite. Don't say "Why don't you fuckwads print more DT?!!!" Be professional. Inform her of the new album and remind her that Metal Edge has always been cool to DT in the past and you would very much like that trend to continue. You could even mention the Ytsejam. You get the idea. Bottom line: be cool, but not pushy.
Also, all of you aol-ers out there, Metal Edge has their own folder. Just do keyword: MMC, then go to hard rock/heavy metal, and it will be mixed in with all the band names.
Well, that's about it. Let's get this show on the road!!!
Richie
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2936 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.970905000910.94168E-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
I visited the hardradio webpage, to try and listen to DT's new songs Burining my soul, and Peruvian Skies, but my Real player kept producing an error message of " FILE NOT FOUND USING HTTP ". I visited the error page at real audio, but this did not help me. Has anybody else had this problem, or is it just me because I am behind a fire wall?
Hey! I had that same problem! What's up with that? I still haven't heard "You Not Me." Help!!! Anyone know of any sites with .wav files of any new stuff? At least that still works.
Richie
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 23:15:03 +0000 From: "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Eckie's rant Message-ID: <199709050413.XAA08118@Walden.MO.NET>
Preach on brutha Eckie!!!
Dale R> Newberry
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:13:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Perk1994@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Crimson Glory is back! Message-ID: <970905001126_534130429@emout08.mail.aol.com>
Hello everyone, Just coming out of lurker mode to tell you all that I just received a demo copy of four new songs for the forthcoming Crimson Glory album and they truly kick ass. Wade Black, the new lead singer, is a cross between Rob Halford (his nickname, according to guitarist Jon Drenning, is Judas) and Udo Derkschneider (sp?) of Accept. He has much better range than Midnight. Jon and Jeff Lords are writing all of the stuff and it is still undecided who will be in the band besides those two and Wade. The four songs I have heard are typical Crimson Glory songs that fans of their first two albums will certainly love. Jon also told me that there will be an official Crimson Glory website on the Internet real soon. I hope to be doing stuff for the site. The site will have soundclips from the new album and all of the rest of the news about the forthcoming release. As soon as the site is up, I will post the URL.
Later, Adam Perkowsky
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 97 08:30:11 +0200 From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: STOP Message-ID: <9709050630.AA12291@star8.star8>
At 13:30 04.09.97 -0700, you wrote: > >Please stop sending digests. > >Thanks. >RGabr69143@aol.com
I think somebody's CAUGHT IN A WEB!
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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 23:25:36 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Gridiron Kings of the 'Jam (current status) Message-ID: <340D02E0.5922@phnx.uswest.net>
Ytse-Survey Int'l is once again conducting a survey on the 'Jam, this time to find out which NFL team is the most popular amongst the best MUSIC fans in the world. So far the entries are thus:
1) STEELERS (6 votes) 2) Eagles (5) 3) Cowboys (3) Redskins (3) 5) Bills (2) Cardinals (2) Dolphins (2) Giants (2) Jets (2) Vikings (2) 11) Broncos (1) Chargers (1) Chiefs (1) Jaguars (1) Packers (1) Patriots (1)
What's with the Pennsylvania domination here? Steelers and Eagles taking control early.
Thanks for all of the entries (35, so far) and keep them coming! E-mail to address listed below. ______________________________ Steve Young (no, not that one) syoung@phnx.uswest.net
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:40:48 +0900 From: s963713@ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp (SUZUKI Jun'ya) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT Bootleg discography Message-ID: <199709050640.PAA04509@icho.ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp>
Hi there and hello Mike,
> Bruce Forst mentioned in a recent Jam that the boot discog on Mike >Burstin's page was horribly out of date. This is true. I created from >scratch a pretty thorough and current DT boot discog called the Advanced >Dream Theater Bootleg CD Guide, it can be found on my homepage at: >=09 > http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/prism.html > > I hope you find it helpful.
I checked it and found some incorrect information on the explanations of "Dream in Progress", "Excellent", "Live in Long Island" and "Mission: Impossible" CDs.
Need more info? Visit my www site at:
http://www.ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp/~s963713/html/dt/dtboots/dtboots.html
Take Care,
Jun'ya ---------------------------------------- SUZUKI Jun'ya http://www.ipe.tsukuba.ac.jp/~s963713/
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Date: 5 Sep 97 10:02:57 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi> To: Ytse Jam (Dream Theater Mailing List) <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Stratovarius site on the web Message-ID: <0021D07F0300000101003B4555042E@mlespser1001.metsaliitto.fi>
Hi!
Take a minute of your time and sign the guestbook at the new Stratovarius website "Visions" at http://www.netti.fi/~beavis. Let us know how do you feel about the site and the band.
Have fun!
_Mape_ and Juha
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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 02:56:12 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Patrick Taylor Message-ID: <340FBB1C.3F58@auburn.net>
Patrick - I lost your address - please email me.
Sorry about the clutter, Mark Peters swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:11:56 +1200 From: "David Rothlisberger" <drothlis@clear.net.nz> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: WDADU Message-ID: <199709050821.UAA28829@fep1-orange.clear.net.nz>
I've got a question:
Is there any difference between the original version of WDADU, and the re-release? I've heard that the 1996 (?) version is remixed or something... And if there _is_ any difference, does one sound "better" than the other one???
Thanks,
David Roth drothlis@clear.net.nz
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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 03:29:42 -0500 From: yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: samplers Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970905032942.007cd360@mail.theonramp.net>
> In conjunction with the local Elektra rep we've aquired some >money to fund the event, which means pizza and beverages, Giveaways such >as, 4 song samplers
if anyone has an xtra demo, our local radio station hasn't received one yet. *hint*
a lot of things haven't been delivered to our area due to the UPS strike. cud be that the station's demo is still lying around in some warehouse somewhere. now if i just knew where that warehouse was.... *grin*
yzzy //Iz*zee//E*zee//E*ziz*ee//Y*z*z*y//Izzzzz
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 97 10:31:28 +0200 From: Jan Ziese <jzi@star-ag.ch> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: WDADU Message-ID: <9709050831.AA13227@star8.star8>
At 01:30 05.09.97 -0700, you wrote: > >I've got a question: > >Is there any difference between the original version of WDADU, and the >re-release? I've heard that the 1996 (?) version is remixed or something... >And if there _is_ any difference, does one sound "better" than the other >one??? > >Thanks, > >David Roth >drothlis@clear.net.nz
YES, and do they have another cover? B/c the music sounds like sweat from one's armpit to me! ;-) ================================================================== = Jan Ziese = +49 (0) 7738 / 99 858 = jzi@star-ag.ch = ================================================================== = People, eat shit! 100.000.000.000 flies can't be wrong! = ==================================================================
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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 12:08:11 From: erw <opk@hlti.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: faqqin faq... Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19970905120811.0c27c586@hlti.fi>
Hey hoy!
The YTSEFAQ version 0.9 is now finished witl LOTS of working last night.. go and se for yourself http://www.hlti.fi/~opk/ytsefaq/ it is pretty bandoriented rigth now.. but more things will be added, ..which brings to my mind:
Could someone please mail me the original -ytse and jam -I'd put them in a trash can -how many whatevers does it take to change a lightbulb (yups I managed to miss all 777 reposts of it :) -any other "legendary" posts, thank you.
Oh yah.. while you're there... go and see http://www.hlti.fi/~opk/samples/
Amorphis : live mp3 Stratovarius : live jam mp3
O-P Komonen
E-mail: opk@hlti.fi Phone: +358-3-6715036 URL:http://www.hlti.fi/~opk/ Da official ytsefaq http://www.hlti.fi/~opk/ytsefaq/
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 02:55:57 +0000 From: "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer2@worldnet.att.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2935 Message-ID: <19970905095528.AAA25442@default>
> From: David Di Tivoli <dream@pronet.it> > To: ytsejam@ax.com > Subject: Mayadome > > I have seen post about Mayadome...but is this band a good band? >
Ummmmm....Hmmmmmmm..........
I just took the time to compose a review of Mayadome for ya a couple days ago.
I E-Mailed it to you.
You received it.
Did you bother to read it?
'nuff said
Ytsejammer
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