YTSEJAM Digest 2944
Today's Topics:
1) Pure art
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
2) DT Webring
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
3) LSOAR
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
4) Re: Greets/Original Musical Tastes
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
5) Marillion:Misplaced childhood
by Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi>
6) Re:Lemur Voice a clone?!
by Riffinator@aol.com
7) DT FII Lyrics
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
8) Listen Up Northen MA & NH Jammers!!!
by Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2921
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
10) LV and David Di Tivoli
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
11) More ranting on lyrics
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
12) Re: DT FII Lyrics
by "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
13) Another year older
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
14) Disappointment on the horizon (new DT samples).....Lasers Edge
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 12:04:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: Pure art
Message-ID: <01INCYOIETBM96W3HM@alma.edu>
Let me see if I can clear up some of my comments from yesterday. It's
very difficult to get everything I wanted to say down clearly in a long post,
particularly when my e-mail terminal won't let me edit a line once it's in.
I suppose my comments about pure art stemmed more from some other
things I've heard recently than from the actual lyrics I was talking about. I
should say again that I haven't heard any of the new material, so I'm not
going to make too big a deal out this until I have. I'm looking forward to
this album as much as anyone on the list, and I'm not just looking for a
chance to trash it. But I'm concerned by some general comments I've heard
lately that it sounds like the band is intentionally trying to do some songs
that have more commercial viability. Again, I don't know this to be fact, and
I hope it's not true. But to me, it seems practically sinful to even consider
what will sell when someone is writing music. I think pretty much anyone would
agree with me that this destroys any notion of pure art.
I basically lost what little respect I had left for Dave Mustaine
when I read the quotes that someone posted to this list last spring where he
said something to the effect of "This album will have four radio friendly
songs, four really heavy songs for the old fans, blah blah blah..."
How can you sit down with a piece of music, that is supposed to be an
expression of yourself, and say "Ok, now how can we make this more radio
friendly?" I think what's most shocking to me is the fact that no one else
seems bothered by this anymore. I don't think it's wrong to release a single,
maybe even make a video, and say, "Ok, here's what we're all about, if anyone
is interested, go buy our album. Maybe even to choose a song that would be
accessible. I recognize that a band needs to get new fans somehow. But to make
this a consideration in the creative process seems to me to corrupt that
process.
As far as lyrics go, something I meant to put in my last post but forgotto was this: I've always kind of imagined that 200 years from now, someone
might still be listening to Images and Words. I suppose that as a musician, my
goal, besides obviously to write something that I'm happy with, would be to
write something that people could always appreciates, and not just for the
next ten years. Even though learning to live (which is my all-time favorite
piece of music, by the way) is about AIDS, this is dealt with in a subtle way.
The more important message, which is (I think) about dignity and finding hope
in a hopeless situation, is timeless. Anyone can relate to that in any time.
Someone wrote me privately and agreed that if DT were going to write a song
about the state of the music industry, they would at least do it in a subtle
way, so that people had to say "Oh yeah, I think that song's about Kurt Cobain,
even though they don't actually say it." Putting a reference like that in
a piece of music dates it in way that only pop music is dated. Sure, no one
really writes much baroque any more, but it still has just as much musical
value. I wouldn't really call it dated.
One more thing about commercial success...I still say that if DT
DOES become popular, it will necessarily be part of a trend, because the masses
are obviously not interested in musical content. Sure it would be good for the
band, and I would like that, but how long would those fans stay around? Only
until the next trend. Some here would disagree with me and say that once people
have heard this music, they could never go back, but I don't buy it. I know
some passive DT fans who really only like the heavy stuff, and don't even know
how much is really in there. If DT achieves commercial success, this list will
be flooded with posts like "DT rulez!". Maybe that's selfish of me not to want
that, but I don't.
I sincerely hope I'm ranting about nothing, and that this album will
be just as rich as all of their others.
-Clark
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 12:13:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT Webring
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970907121134.28674C-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
This is for all the Ytsejam Newbies that have just joined...make sure ya
check out the Dream Theater Webring "Lifting Shadows off a Ring" at
http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN/lift.html
If you have a DT page feel free to submit it to the Queue!
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^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^
^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^
^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^
^ would have 4 sharps. ^
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^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^
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^ Eric Moegling: Manager for "Lifting Shadows Off A Ring" ^
^ The Dream Theater Web-Ring ^
^ emoeglin@wezl.org ^
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^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://opeckie.base.org ^
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 12:42:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LSOAR
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970907124134.29131B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Umm...we just changed the LSOAR homepage to:...http://www.wezl.org/lift
sorry for the inconvienience!
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^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^
^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^
^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^
^ would have 4 sharps. ^
^ ^
^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^
^ ^
^ Eric Moegling: Manager for "Lifting Shadows Off A Ring" ^
^ The Dream Theater Web-Ring ^
^ emoeglin@wezl.org ^
^ ^
^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://opeckie.base.org ^
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 12:39:35 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Greets/Original Musical Tastes
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970907122538.23915A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 6 Sep 1997, alves wrote:
> Hi guys,
>=20
> I realized, reading this list, the majority of the jammers has a more
> progressive taste.
> It=B4s interesting because here in Brazil the public of DT is basically
> formed by people who used to listen more heavy stuff.
=09You know, many, many people here in Brazil tend to think that
"noiser is better", in the sense that the heavier the songs you have, the
better they are. But since they know nothing about musical styles (I'm
not claiming that I do, but the fact here is that most people don't know,=
=20
for instance that the Progressive rock bands are worth listening, even if=
=20
they aren't noisy -- you know, those trends), they don't understand that
the middle section of Metropolis has deep progressive roots. In other
words, they like Dream Theater, but if you showed them some of the Dream
Theater influences, they would turn their faces and say "I don't give a
shit about this dumb band".
=09The fact is that only because Dream Theater has some heavy moments
(Pull Me Under, Take the Time, Mirror, Lie, Caught in a Web) that they get
airplay. If they didn't have those appeals, their fate would be oblivion.
So "sad, but true".
=09I know that I'm not being eloquent enough to type this, but I'm
sorry. I'm having the worst day in my life today (my girlfriend said that
she doesn't want me anymore).
> The amazing thing is that DT made the bridge between the styles and it ta=
ke
> people discover new and incredible things in both sides. =20
=09Let's hope that those closed-minded people here learn to
appreciate other forms of expression and take a good lesson from this. But
this will only happen if they buy I&W.
> Anyway, I don=B4t know if this "labels" make any sense nowadays. It was j=
ust
> my useless thoughts.
=09What can you expect from a band that mixes melodic heavy metal
with progressive rock? Would you expect people to promptly understand
this? :-)
> Up the irons, people of South America!!
=09I'd love to say "Metal Up Your Ass", but I don't know if that band
(you know who I'm talking about) would like to see this anymore. :-)
=09[]s, Roger...
-- =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D------------------------------
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 20:11:20 +0300 From: Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Marillion:Misplaced childhood Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970907171120.00664868@mbox.sci.fi>
Help ! Can someone mail me the songtitles to this album, I don't recognise like two of the songs in it and I don't have the songlist anywhere ! Good to see how many "virgins" we have here..HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you all ! And me too..=) Hi Bruce !
Satu
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 15:57:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Riffinator@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:Lemur Voice a clone?! Message-ID: <970907155600_1489359946@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Colonel Mustard wrote:
Ahoy,
What's this talk about Lemur Voice being a clone? I have to disagree thoroughly. Marcel has got a great soloing style - it's awesome, and it's not copying any of Petrucci's solos. I can't really see the reason for calling them a DT clone. To me they are an awesome prog metal band with a hell of a CD. Anyone agree/disagree?
I second that!! Just because they are a highly talented prog band with SIMILAR sounds to DT doesn't give anyone a legit reason to call them clones. Marcel does have his own style and it's definitely not a replica of Petrucci's.
-Drew
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 16:28:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Explore The Boundries) Subject: DT FII Lyrics Message-ID: <199709072028.QAA25242@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey,
In response to DT's lyrics deteriorating, I would have to agree. NOt that it makes any differnce. ON FII the lyrics tend to be unoriginal, with the exception of songs like Lines in the Sand, and Trial of Tears. Many times it sounds like the used the words they did just because it rhymed. Hell, an excellent example is "You Not ME" which they co-wrote with Top-40 hard rock guru Desmond Child. The album is very good. And Dream Theater Rules. But, I do miss the lyrics, mainly, of Kevin Moore. That's what it is, I miss his lyric's.
I'm going to go sulk now. No, I'm going to go listen to DT FII, again. :) --- "Life is cast in shadows, ,swodahs ni tsac si efiL" molded by an expert hand, ,dnah trepxe na yb dedlom and the scenes that play before us, ,su erofeb yalp taht senecs eht and are the tragedies of man." ".nam fo seidegart eht era
koggie@cyberspace.org is John R. Kotzian Check out the Elsinore homepage @ http://falcon.ic.net/~lloyd/page17.html
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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 17:05:15 -0400 From: Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Listen Up Northen MA & NH Jammers!!! Message-ID: <3413170B.3368@net1plus.com>
Rock 101 WGIR (101.1 FM) is playing its new music show tonight from 10:00 to Midnight. They played Burning My Soul last Sunday night and I'm sure they will not hesitate to play it again- especially with a bunch of (polite) requests. The phone number is 1-603-668-0234. I'm assuming that you should probably not request it until the show starts (WGIR WILL NOT play DT other than during this show- they told me.) Good luck and don't forget to request a Beck song as well! :-)
~-~Jon Dery~-~
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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 17:56:04 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2921 Message-ID: <01INDBOBHBSY00C84Y@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Hey guys, it's Josh here, catching up on jams from 1987...
I'm just now reading this scratched-CD thread and I notice that someone mentioned that their SONY player seemed to have more trouble than the other players. I have a SONY cd player also, and like every other SONY product I've ever used, be it telephone or walkman, performance is very dissappointing.
In fact, my player will often have trouble recognizing that there's even a disk in there. It's always the same disks, but there's never a problem on my friends' players. Not only that, but the tape deck w/ the recording function broke, so I can't even tape stuff.
Am I just unlucky or have others noticed shoddy quality w/this brand?
Joshua Rasiel rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 15:56:17 -0600 From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: LV and David Di Tivoli Message-ID: <199709072159.PAA16962@mailmx.micron.net>
> I can't really see the reason for >calling them a DT clone. To me they are an awesome prog metal band with a >hell of a CD. Anyone agree/disagree?
I very much agree. LV is not a dt clone at all. Marcel's style is very unique, and his constant use of harmonics rox my nadz. David Di Tivoli is the guy that made these accusations, and until he gets a shorter sig and stops having 5 posts in every jam all of which are 1 line long I think it would be a good idea if everyone ignores everything he says.
woot
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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 18:18:09 -0500 (EST) From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: More ranting on lyrics Message-ID: <01INDC98V97S99DPY0@alma.edu>
Ok, people are probably sick of this, but I've been thinking about it and I have to get this out. (No one around here listens to me, as you've probably all guessed). Here's why I like most of Dream Theater's lyrics, and why direct references to current events bother me. I tend to be an abstract thinker, and this is why music can speak to me in a way that is even more real than written words. I don't like to be told exactly what lyrics are about, and I don't neccessarily want to know exactly what the artist was thinking when he wrote something. To me, art is about two main things: for the artist, it's about expression, and for the listener (in the case of music), it's about interpretation. And the interpretation is every bit as important as the expression. It really doesn't matter what John Myung wrote LTL about, I know what it means to me and in a way, that's all that reallymatters to me. Lyrics that are extremely direct don't leave any room for interpretation. There's no grey area to find your own meaning. I haven't heard this DT song in particular, but this is why I find that alot of lyrics detract from the music for me. Music is perhaps the most abstract of the arts, and I like it that way. Many of the things that we like about music are hard to quantify or even explain the way we can with poetry, painting, sculpture, etc.. But lyrics that are too direct ruin this abstract quality. I prefer lyrics that contain alot of symbolism, and I find that vague lyrics conjure up imagery for me that I can't find when I'm being told exactly what the song is about. This is really just my personal taste, I suppose, but I know there are others on the list who feel the same way, and I'm just trying to explain myself better. I'm interested to hear others' thoughts on this subject. -Clark
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 16:22:28 -0600 From: "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT FII Lyrics Message-ID: <199709072228.PAA03442@odin.ax.com>
> In response to DT's lyrics deteriorating, I would have to agree.
Me, too. I figured out the lyrics to BMS over the RA line at hardradio, and they're not very good, IMO. Here's what I got from them anyway... Listen for yourself!
Burning My Soul - Dream Theater
Morning aside Ship on my shoulder
Lungs in my throat Tied to the boulder
It still ain't the same... Can't get any colder And you wonder why I can't cough!
I'm not in my 'jammies Napalm my back Me I'm forebodin' Knocked down the trash
You dropped the ball I picked up the trash And wasted all my hairspray!
Twisting... turning... Losing my teacup... tuning... Living... Learning... Impregnate pizza... Burning my soul!
I've seen a spleen And then he held me a grape He pulls up in a Kia Driving inside my head
Pick out the one Who stands before you and says "That tastes just like the last one..."
*chorus
Spying theater Throw caution to the wind But I found myself Beaten from within
I can't live my life You want me to envsion Psst Psst Psst (subliminal message: Growl for me grizzly...)
Beating your nun Controlling my life Heed my words Will give you more lice
So I hurt your feelings Well, I'm really sorry, But I don't give a shit, NO!
*chorus
Smile! KorgX3 KorgX3@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~korgx3/Enchant.htm - KorgX3's Enchant Page! Yay!
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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 18:59:13 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Another year older Message-ID: <199709072259.SAA21223@tx.cs.wm.edu>
Ytsejammer (YIT-say-JAM-mer): The sort of person who notices when a composer changes a song's time signature, just to fit it into a 30-second TV commercial.
Hey, folks. Today is a very special day for me, for two reasons. First, today is my twenty-fifth birthday. Certainly a milestone in itself. But equally as important to me, today is my second anniversary as a Ytsejammer. I received my first digest (somewhere in the 700s, I believe) on September 7th, 1995. I'm certainly not an old-timer compared to the likes of Mike Bahr, Bafu, Brian Cox, Mike Burstin, Skadz, et al., but I've been around long enough, I think, to have some unique viewpoints and insights about this mailing list. If you'll indulge my nostalgic mood, I will explain.
It's almost become cliche to say this, but this list is my family away from home. I mean that sincerely. When I joined this list, I was 23 years old, and away from home for the first time. I had just moved to Burlington, VT to start work on my M.S. in Computer Science. It was the first time I had celebrated a birthday without my parents. I was in a strange place (and soon to learn just how strange it was :). I barely knew anyone in town. And, I was new to the Internet. (My alma mater was a bit behind the times.) I found the Ytsejam (I still don't remember how), and signed up, hoping for some good conversation about good music, something sorely missing from my life since leaving Long Island.
Two months later, I was helping to plan Ytsecon II. This was an exciting time for me. I was learning a great deal about OFB (thanks for the acronym, Mike :), and actually scored my first DT bootlegs, thanks to Trey Allen. Now, in my previous life, I had never gone to a concert that was more than, say, thirty miles away from my house. And the DT show the night of Ytsecon II, December 27, 1995, at Malibu, certainly qualified. But during and after the Con, I decided that I would attend the next night's show in Old Bridge, NJ, with nearly-absolute strangers Skadz and Wacky.
A community was developing.
That night was amazing. Not only was I hanging out with all these cool people who I'd only known by e-mail address ("Wow, Bafu, you look nothing like I expected."), but the lot of us got backstage that night and actually met the band. I can still remember Skadz in the car on the way home saying little else other than "Dude, we met Dream Theater." (Well, that and wondering if the three of us had enough money for the tolls back to NY, but I digress.) The Ytsejam had arrived.
My first year as a Ytsejammer ended with me taking over the Official Dream Theater FAQ from Jason Skewes. This one decision had effects I never dreamed possible. But more on that later.
In September 1996, the start of my second and final year at UVM, an acquaintance named Richie Rivera, fellow jammer and fellow UVM student, brought his drums to Burlington. Together with his friend Chuck, we started an original prog-metal band called Nine Miles. And we were really good, if I do say so myself. But even better than this was the fact that Richie and I (and Chuck) became good friends. Richie and I even travelled to two of the Fix for '96 shows together.
Ah, the Fix shows. Now this was an event. Besides getting the chance to see some Jammers again, and meet some I hadn't met, I helped introduce Wacky and Binky, the two little lovebirds that live next door to Skadz now. :) Oh, yeah, and I met Mike Portnoy again. This time, we were able to make plans to seriously discuss the FAQ, which was a thrill for me. (I must have spent a week saying little more than "Mike Portnoy called me on the phone!" :)
This past summer, I got a chance to catch Fates Warning in Northern Virginia with a bunch of Jammers (Hi Sav, Jeannie, Kev, Taco, Pat D.) and even caught Mike Blevins' band Division as an opener (Hey, Mike, how do I order that CD?) I was also able to follow my other favorite band (Rush) around the Northeast and Canada because of other jammers, namely Skadz (who opened his home to me and my friend Brian for the Great Woods show), Syrinx (who drove to Toronto), and Rick Terry (who welcomed Syrinx and me to the Great White North). I would have never experienced most of these things if it weren't because of the nature of this list. I sure wouldn't have tried this with people from other lists.
Not because other lists are bad, mind you. It's just that this one... is my family. When I need a recommendation for new music to listen to, I turn to this list. When I need someone to listen, I hop on IRC and see who's there. And, when OFB is in trouble, we rally behind them. When they're performing in a nearby time zone, we hop into the cars and take off across the amber waves of grain. And when the new album finally comes out, we will be able to celebrate together all that we accomplished together. Us and the band.
My sincere thanks to all of you for being in my family. I wouldn't have gotten through my Master's program without you guys. I wouldn't have seen Fates, may not have even seen DT without you guys. I would have never heard Spock's Beard, or Mr. So&So, or Finneus Gauge, if it weren't for this list.
Thanks, gang. I know this year is going to be even better than the last two. See ya at Birch Hill. :)
-Chris
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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 19:11:03 -0400 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Disappointment on the horizon (new DT samples).....Lasers Edge Message-ID: <34133486.1A22@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm really worried that they are beginning to make the transition to
> conforming to grunge and crap like that. It will be particularly
> devestating if they start creating many songs with choruses constantly
> repeating, and from reading people's comments, it looks like that's what
> YOu Not Me and Burning My Soul are like. Damn, that sucks.
I agree. Upon hearing the first three songs from the HardRadio page I
feared for the worst. I heard three more (including the supposedly
"heaviest" one and the instrumental.."A New Millenium" and "Hell's
Kitchen"...and the god awful "Take Away My Pain") from this site that
has downloadable .ra files:
http://www.scream.no/sound/sound.html
ANM and HK were ok...not the stellar stuff everyone was hyping. When I
heard the three other new DT songs at HardRadio.com I was so disgusted
that yet another great band poised on exploding metal back into the
states has failed miserably at "updating" their sound! I mean these
almost put me to sleep. All I heard was a band that sounded average..if
it wasnt for LaBrie's voice I'd think this was just another band (which,
sadly, seems to have happened) And the arguments about these not being
cd quality is not relevant....when you wash your car its still the same
underneath all that grime.
If these three songs are ANY indication as to the direction of their
"new" sound then it seems they're going RYCHE down the toilet. yet
another disappointment to add to the QUEENSRYCHE, METALLICA, KING
DIAMOND scrap heap! Why, why, why????
Thank god seeing FATES WARNING live kicked my ass and reassured me that
the American scene is alive and kicking because if I'd seen these DT
songs live I'd have surely slit my wrists.
Well, I give them lots of credit for opening the floodgates (hell I'm
even from Long Island) but it looks like I'll have to get used to the
fact that the brilliance of WDADU won't be matched anytime soon :-( But,
on the brighter side is that bands like NEVERMORE, SYMPHONY X, ICED
EARTH, etc. are picking up the slack where DT trailed off (after I&W).
Now..onto better things.....
Lasers Edge! I placed my order on a Wednesday and got my cd's Friday. I
couldnt have gotten better service if I went to buy the cd's myself!!
Great prices too..although I think my request for 3 ICED EARTH "Days of
Purgatory" took Ken by surprise. Anyhow...he rules..plain and simple.
Definitely on my vendor list now (alongside Denis Gulbey at SENTINEL
STEEL...now his prices are incredible!).
In case your wondering I got (along with IE "DoP") LORD BANE "Age of
Elegance" (FINALLY!!!!!), ELEGY "State of Mind", THE QUIET ROOM
"Introspect", and ETERNITY X "The Edge". Even though the singer was the
biggest asshole EVER created..this disc is just AMAZING! Its too bad he
had to screw things up for his band cuz their arrangements are great.
I've always loved ELEGY and IE and was searching for LORD BANE for
years. The other two were just a shot in the dark..which is usually a
pleasant surprise.
Well thats it....Lasers Edge rules..new DT doesnt (hopefully the used
bin will be kind to me the week of Sept. 23rd)
also...NEVERMORE (w/ FLOTSAM AND JETSAM) and BRUCE DICKINSON are touring
the states now..go see 'em!!!!!!!!!!!
cheers,
Carlo (aka Fates, aka YtseSatan)
-- _ __| |__ "When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __| maybe then you'll begin to understand | | Life down here is just a strange illusion." | | |_|
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
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