YTSEJAM Digest 2960
Today's Topics:
1) Re: hmmm...
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2957
by "Scott/Curt Hansen" <curth@execpc.com>
3) Baltimore prog festival
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
4) last one:)
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
5) Radio Play
by JamesAhab@aol.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2958
by "Scott/Curt Hansen" <curth@execpc.com>
7) FII Cover
by "Davide" <dada@iname.com>
8) Re: Heard that the new savatage bites
by eckie@asu.edu
9) rebuttals and scoffings at Elektra
by JB <beamup@vt.edu>
10) Label (Mike Bahr), CD, cover, Majesty logo, etc.
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
11) UK Release...
by djw_at_neon@smtpgate.walker.com
12) Re: No real DT content...
by Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>
13) Savatage
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
14) More finneus gauge news!
by "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com>
15) Australian FII release.
by Chris Groves <cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au>
16) crown jewel
by "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
17) FII in MP3
by "Gartranvistalorius" <woot@crypted.com>
18) Ytsejam Fantasy Football League: Week 2
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
19) AOL DT chat....
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:19:32 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: hmmm...
Message-ID: <19970911042129.AAA27678@sni.pananet.com>
> Surrounded in which all you hear is keyboards and vocals. Awake may be
more
> guitar-oriented, and only for a few songs, but at least it doesn't forget
the
> other instruments, and I think they all stand out ('cept bass, which
never
> does).
..until Sept.23rd mwahahahahahah!:)
as i already said, there's a lot of keys on Awake, just poorly
mixed...there's the intro and solo to 6:00, intro to CiaW (it's the melody
apart, most important, but doesn't seem so because it's so low), unison
stuff in middle part of CiaW, melodies on IF pre-choruses, piano on
Erotomania (TSM part) verses on Voices, i could go on and on...
Ernesto
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:25:33 -0500
From: "Scott/Curt Hansen" <curth@execpc.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2957
Message-ID: <199709110524.AAA27870@mailgw00>
Albert Balkiewicz wrote:
>Ok, here is the scenario, and looking out to the Ytsejam
>community to help me out with this....
>
>Half Naked is beginning their reunion tour on Thursday.
>The problem is I have a head cold, and I'm congested up
>the ass, which can be a problem for a singer....
>
>So here is my question to you:
>
>How can I clear this up, or what should I do so that
>everything is ok when I go on on Thursday???
Send Pat his tapes so he'll remove that curse he put on you! :)
(Sorry...couldn't resist!) :) :) :)
Scott Hansen
curth@execpc.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:24:44 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Baltimore prog festival
Message-ID: <19970911043125.AAA28113@sni.pananet.com>
Hey I found this site: www.progrock.com
seems more progrock rather than progmetal oriented, but anyways, here's
something you Marylanders might find interesting:
Oct 18: The Orion Space Rock festival
place: Orion Sound Studios.
bands:
Alien Planetscapes
Architectural Metaphor
Quarkspace
Escapade
Fingerpaint
check out the site..a lot of VERY obscure bands there
Ernesto
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:36:18 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: last one:)
Message-ID: <19970911044132.AAA28293@sni.pananet.com>
wow, there's also a german progressive rock festival at Bruchsal, on Sept
20-21...interesting
Ernesto
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:53:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Radio Play
Message-ID: <970911015326_1751291235@emout19.mail.aol.com>
I guess WYSP in Philadelphia is the only radio station that hasn't played
BMS! I e-mailed them 12 days ago, then again 5 days...NO REPLY! So, please,
e-mail them at WYSP94@aol.com and request it, thanks.
This makes me one of few who has not heard ANY of the songs...but I am
thankful. I'd much rather pick up the CD on the 23rd (yeah, like any of the
stores around here will have it!) and listen to every song for the first time
instead of hearing certain songs on allocated days on MP3s, promo CDs, radio,
etc.
Take care peepz
NP- Damn the Machine: Honor
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:51:12 -0500
From: "Scott/Curt Hansen" <curth@execpc.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2958
Message-ID: <199709110554.AAA28930@mailgw00>
To James Ahab and/or anyone else who cares - you're summary of what
happened between 89 and 91 is close though there's a few things to clarify:
Charlie was not only fired due to the direction he wanted to go in, but his
singing style (and range) didn't fit what they wanted, he wasn't much of a
front man and there were some personality conflicts between him and the
others. John Arch (close friend of the band who had left FW not long
before) was the first notable person that they worked with after Charlie -
among other things, he didn't work out due to his wanting to focus on his
family. Next up was Steve Stone who was fired immediately after the
dreadful 6/9/90 gig (his first and only) with DT - known to Mike P. as the
"Steve Stone fiasco". John Hendricks <sp?> came next - dunno what happened
with him. They then got Chris Cintron who seemed to be the right man and
was a few short days away from becoming the official singer when James'
demo landed in their laps. You know the rest...
Hope you all enjoyed this little ditty of DT history...
Scott Hansen
curth@execpc.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:01:35 +0200
From: "Davide" <dada@iname.com>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FII Cover
Message-ID: <199709110601.IAA29520@dante.iol.it>
I wonder if someone know a link where i can see the new album cover!
Thanks
Davide
P.S.: Till now I heard only two tracks with the final production: "Burning
my Soul" and "Hollow Years". I find both of them fantastic!
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:35:51 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Heard that the new savatage bites
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970910223352.18618F-100000@general1.asu.edu>
> jammers,
> I'm a HUGE savatage fan, but I'm kind of feeling ill in my stomach
> after hearing two bad reviews of the new savatage, and this is by
> "savatage fans". They say that it starts off promising then just
> falls flat, and that "Dead Winter Dead" was much better. They say
> that Zach does too much shouting as opposed to singing. Oh well, I
...
:)
Have you been keepin' up with the jams recentlY? The "fans" on this list
are already sayin' this FII album sucks (Yeah, a small minority I know, but
damn, when they say something the rest of the jam collapses on 'em).
Opinions are like nipples.
They should never be pierced.
~Eckie
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 02:06:28 -0400
From: JB <beamup@vt.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: rebuttals and scoffings at Elektra
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19970509020628.007a6c20@mail.vt.edu>
http://www.elektra.com/metal_club/dream/season.html... look at it... it's
got the album picture there (for ACOS), yet the first thing they type is :
Produced by ... Dream TheatRE... ugh.
anyway, about the lyrical stuff...
>Some of this doesn't make sense. I won't try to refute statement that the
>Awake lyrics went downhill, being that everyone is entitled to their own
>opinion, but I will say that I disagree by about 1000%. Compared to I&W,
>the lyrics are very dark and depressing, but the writing is just as
>emotional, moving, and eloquent - and this is coming from a guy who
>despises literature. Again, that's just my opinion, so I won't go on too
>long about it.
my point was.. (no I wasn't saying that it dropped off staggeringly from
I&W to Awake, just seemed like there were less songs whose lyrics really
hit me as being very thought provoking... (though I did say that "a few
from awake" were included in that "good" assessment... i.e. CiaW, LSoaD,
Scarred).. this was meant (though possibly not clearly stated) that KM's
lyrics dropped off somewhat in Awake as well... don't find any of his songs
in Awake to be nearly as good as those in I&W... (in fact none of those I
mentioned are KM songs, whereas the ones I mentioned from I&W in my
previous post were mostly his I believe...)
anyway, on to the next...
>The point that I can factually rebut, is the comment about the lyrical
>quality dropping off after Kevin left. How can you make that point, when
>we haven't really been exposed to anything POST-Kevin. Kevin was an
>integral part of Awake, lyrically. ACOS doesn't count, since it was penned
>by Portnoy, and while Kevin was in the band. Unless you already have the
>lyrics to FII, I don't see how you can make this statement.
Again, my main point was the general dropoff of KM in Awake and then onto
FII (w/o KM)... I know ACOS was during KM... I was speaking from the 3
songs I'd heard up to that point of FII (most prominently YNM)... so I
wasn't as confused as you may have thought :) Anyway, that comment was
before hearing "Take Away My Pain"... DAMN... that's an awesome song...
it's been going through my head all day... so anyway, things may change...
lyrics can "grow on you"... so I was just speaking of my
first-week-of-listening critique.
***WOHOO*** just got the DT radio promo today.... I think (*Gasp*) I'll
wait until my thursday night radio show before listening to any of it...
that way I can be just as surprised as my listeners... call me crazy, but
hell, I'd never get any work done tomorrow if I did open it...
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notes from the desk of Virginia Tech
Jason Brindel Computer EngIneering
(540) 961-7262 & VT a cappella
beamup@vt.edu (JUXTAPOSITION)
www.vt.edu:10021/B/beamup www.vt.edu:10021/org/juxtap
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New Dream Theater CD, "Falling Into Infinity" releases Sept. 23!!!!!
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"You took away my hero, will you take away my pain?
Take away my pain, let the cold inside,
it's time to let it rain .... .... I'm learning to survive,
without you in my life, till you come knocking at my door."
-Take away my Pain (Dream Theater)
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:12:22 +0200
From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Label (Mike Bahr), CD, cover, Majesty logo, etc.
Message-ID: <3417B5F2.7C44D1C3@westend.com>
Hi all!
I just got a nice promo pack from EastWest Germany, including, no, not a
promo, the final version of FII!
Mike Bahr: They are still on EastWest, but since EastWest is an Elektra label...
For all of you who missed the Majesty logo on the cover (myself included!),
it's there! It's in the black area below the blue rings , in dark grey. Damn,
I hope you know what I mean, I'm somehow too excited to find the right words...
I hope that I find the time to include the cover somewhere on my homepage, so
just in case, check out the THE MIRROR-pages:
http://www.westend.com/TheMirror
Follow the link that says something like "cover" ;-))
BTW, maybe Storm got tired of the shareware font ;-), FII is written in
another Sans Serif Italic font, but sharp, not blurred as on the postcard.
Later,
Steffen - THE MIRROR
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 97 08:59:36 -0800
From: djw_at_neon@smtpgate.walker.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: UK Release...
Message-ID: <9709118739.AA873972007@smtpgate.walker.com>
Hi,
I've just been to Electra's DT home page and they've got a "Coming
Soon..." for FII and a very small thumbnail. The release info on
Electra's New Release page just says August (which is obviously
bollox). I've just registered for their chat room and asked about a
UK release...
And so it is that the waiting starts....
Dave (a UK Jammer).
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:16:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: No real DT content...
Message-ID: <199709111416.KAA07745@clipper.hq.tis.com>
>
>I just wanted to announce that my ytsejam folder has now reached 30 meg.
>
>I lost about 200 of them when the box I was on lost its HD and there was
>no backup(suck.suck.suck)...
>
>I wish I could remember what number I started at... it was a damn long
>time ago.. I would imagine around 300 or so... ( I think it was in '94 or
>'93)....
>
If you ever want those band issues again, I have all the Ytsejam
digests back to about #65 (during the spring of '93 sometime on good ol'
bnf.com). :-)
Steve
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:29:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Savatage
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970911102513.27646D-100000@bdmserver>
When I first started seeing posts about Savatage playing 3 east coast
dates I was like "They wont be playing anywhere near me, too bad they
aren't playing Jaxx." A couple of messages later and someone mentions
that they are playing Jaxx on October 18th... I am psyched! And October
18th is a Saturday and that means no DC beltway rush hour traffic...
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
|===================================================================|
| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| New Dream Theater-September 23, 1997 *** Washington Redskins 1-1 |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files *** Go Orioles |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:36:25 -0400
From: "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com>
To: "A Ytse Besides Itself" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: More finneus gauge news!
Message-ID: <199709111539.LAA25103@brickbat8.mindspring.com>
For all of you in the Philadelphia Area, here's a great chance to see/mee
finneus gauge...
>We have just confirmed an in-store performance at Tower Records in
>Northeast Philadelphia for Friday, October 17 at 8:15pm. The band will be
>playing some new songs as well as some from "more once more" during the
>45-minute set. Tower Records is located on Roosevelt Boulevard in the
>Great Northeast and they can be contacted at (215) 676-1578.
>
>Hope to see many of you there!
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e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com
erotomania! = http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx
offical lemur voice hompage:
http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/lemur.htm
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:08:29 +1000
From: Chris Groves <cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Australian FII release.
Message-ID: <l03020900b03dc76a05d6@[131.217.133.77]>
Does anyone know whether 'Falling Into Infinity' is a local release, or
whether yet again, we'll have to put up with costly USA imports? The fact
that Dream Theater is now on Elektra, as opposed to East/West (I read this
in an earlier post?) is interesting, and could have some bearing, yet
perhaps not, as every damn East/West CD I see aside from the Dream Theater
discs are on local release (Tori Amos, etc.).......... anyone know?
Thanks.
Seeya!
Chris Groves.
cdgroves@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:59:00 -0400
From: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: crown jewel
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=BDD%l=BDD/MSMAIL/001DFCA9@nt_mail.bdd.com>
Hello,
Just recently subscribed to the Ytsejam, along with getting a job and
this computer, and I'm enjoying it immensely. Reading it today, I
noticed that JamesAhab@aol.com (I don't know how to take lines out of
people's messages for my own nefarious purposes just yet) called John
Petrucci the "crown jewel" of the band, with the disclaimer "not to take
away from the others." He shortly followed this with a comment
concerning the generalized sound of the band, pointing out that the
"bass never stands out."
]From my bass-centric position as a bassist myself, I have to question
what exactly these above quotes mean. Being a huge Rush fan, Geddy Lee
is quite the exception to most bass players outside of jazz, in that the
bass in Rush music does stand out in the mix. A good bassist, though,
in most cases, does not and should not stand out--it's the nature of
being a rhythm instrument. With that in mind, though, while using the
same disclaimer and not take anything away from Mr. Petrucci, who never
fails to impress, I can immediately think of several bands with
guitarists who stand out and play music along the lines of JP. In that
same vein, then, I cannot think of a single bassist who plays lines as
complex and interesting as John Myung does, while at the same time
utterly succeeds in holding down the bottom end. It's not even that
nobody is similar (because, IMHO, JP stands out among all those like
him)--what amazes me is that nobody comes close to JM. Nobody is doing
it, largely because nobody can.
As a crown jewel along the lines of musicianship, then, I just worry
that JM might be getting sleighted. If, however, if "crown jewel" is
meant as the jewel the shines the brightest among other priceless
jewels, then yes, as the guitar is most prominently heard of all the
instruments (by nature of its role in the music), then, I would have to
agree with James.
That's all for now. (I feel like I should be quoting lines from songs
now, which everybody seems to do, but frankly, I don't see why.)
Yet another Matt
(Tedescom@BDD.com)
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:06:44 -0600
From: "Gartranvistalorius" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FII in MP3
Message-ID: <199709111810.MAA17700@mailmx.micron.net>
Anybody know the capacity of the site that has FII in MP3 format? I've
been getting the "too many users" message this whole time. Are there that
many users or is it a low capacity server?
I must also compliment Arash on his improving use of English. I've heard
that English is one of the hardest to learn because of weird letters left
over from olde english (e.g. knight) and multiple meanings for words (how
many defitions does "run" have?)
It rolls down stairs
It comes not in pairs
Runs over your neighbor's foot.
It's great for a snack
And fits on your back
It's woot! woot! woot!
woot™ from Blammo!®
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:12:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
To: "Yzerjam: the Mailing list for DT/Red Wing Fans Worldwide" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ytsejam Fantasy Football League: Week 2
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970911134336.12490A-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
submitters note: Due to some suggestions (1 actually), I'm
making this a little shorter.
Week 2 of the YFFL was as surprising as the NFL's Week 2 was. Pat
Daugherty's Patsville Predators were beaten on Monday night performance
by Jeff George by Robert Rivers' Hampshire Hounds 61-58. The 58 points
scored by the Predators would have won 3 other games in the League this
week. The brothers matchup of Jeremy Hallum's BU Blazars, and Ryan
Hallum's Purple People Eaters was won by the Blazars 67-56 on the
strength of the Patriots D. Heath Augustover's Northeast Storm
destroyed Jason Hartman's Glen Burnie Liquid Shadows 72-38 to go to 2-0
in division play. J. M. Blevins' London Ultraviolence beat Dana
Boisvert's Mill City Birds of Prey 50-40, and Kevin Madden's Cape St.
Clair Musicsnobs squeaked by the Alabama Lines in the Sod owned by Mark
Peters 35-30. Both winners are now 1-1 and both defeated are still
looking for their first win.
So after two weeks, here are the standings and points.
West Points East Points
Blazars 2-0 129 Northeast Storm 2-0 141
Hounds 2-0 111 Predators 1-1 156
Musicsnobs 1-1 89 Ultraviolence 1-1 105
Lines in the Sod 0-2 65 Liquid Shadows 1-1 88
Birds of Prey 0-2 63 People Eaters 0-2 105
Next week:
Hounds vs. Lines in the Sod
Blazars vs. Birds of Prey: Both games feature a winless vs. an
undefeated team in the West. Important divisional matchups.
Northeast Storm vs.Ultraviolence: Big point scoring game between the #2
and #5 point scorers in the league. Northeast Storm needs to win to stay
1 game up on the #1 scoring Predators.
Musicsnobs vs. Liquid Shadows: Big game for both teams to stay 1 game
back of the leaders.
Predators vs. People Eaters: Predators will want to come back after a
close game last week. The People Eaters can score points though, should
be the closest game of the week.
-jeremy
+=====================================================================+
# grad student, Boston U. # "You've seen our Moon, #
# Boston, MA 02134 # Now see our Johnson!" #
# Astronomy # -seen on T-shirts all over Vikingland #
#<*> Jeremy Hallum <*># referring to QBs W. Moon and B. Johnson #
#<*> jhallum@bu.edu <*># Bleeding Purple since the tender age of 6.#
#<*>jhallum@dreamt.org <*># http://bu-ast.bu.edu/~jhallum/ #
+=====================================================================+
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:27:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: DragynLMC3@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AOL DT chat....
Message-ID: <970911142539_1088742309@emout06.mail.aol.com>
</lurker mode>
hi all!
Im just writing to invite all you poor AOL freaks to come and hang out in a
Dream Theater chat room... its usually kinda lonely in here, so company will
be really appreciated ;}
I usually name the room Dream Theater (big shock i know) and its listed
(hopefully) under Arts and Entertainment in the members section. Or, instead
of browsing for it simply use- "aol://2719:62-2-Dream%20Theater" (without
quotation marks) as a keyword and it will bring you right into the room..
Sorry about taking up space and all that! ;}
~Lisa
<lurker mode>
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