YTSEJAM Digest 2965
Today's Topics:
1) Have You Seen Me?
by "W. Brian Henderson" <hender@wam.umd.edu>
2) Re: This'n'that
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
3) Re: Help out...
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
4) Berklee
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
5) FII Mirror Site
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
6) Re: UK Release - 20th October
by Andrew Berry <andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk>
7) porntoy lyrics
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
8) New Genesis Review (on Webpage, not here!)
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
9) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_=C6nima?=
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
10) good newz - bad newz
by yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net>
11) DT CONCERT REVIEW, Part II
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
12) Yes, TILES is a prog band from Detroit
by JE78674@ltu.edu
13) crazy koba's blowaway cd sale
by Thrak75@aol.com
14) DT in Brazil
by Dennis Ferreira <dennisf@achei.net>
15) * I feel good! *
by "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br>
16) Seven Wonders - Nearly 10 hours of bootlegs for $22
by "David Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
17) Levin + DT
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
18) FII samples page
by David Di Tivoli <dream@pronet.it>
19) Radio
by ~ME~ <breuric@tpgi.com.au>
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 20:14:37 -0400
From: "W. Brian Henderson" <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Have You Seen Me?
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970912201437.006a1ba4@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Here's a fun game -- is this person among us?
I was talking to one of my friends, who's currently going to Millersville,
and he happened to say this:
>A good story: I was in one class wearing my Rush shirt. I got to talking
>with this guy that had just transferred in from IUP. He said, 'Rush. That's
>all my room mate back at IUP ever listened to. Well, that and Dream
>Theater.' Note should be made that "Dream Theater" was said with a strong
>sarcastic nasal-y "oh, them, the high and mighty band." I laughed at that
one.
So, I immediately followed up by asking who this guy was, in case I knew
him. A while passed, and then I got this:
>Remember the Rush/DT dude at IUP? His name is Brian "Icorps/Icore/Icorn" or
>something like that (he didn't seem too certain). Anyway, the guy told me
>today that this guy was constantly reading "Rush Internet lists...."
Do you know this person? Are you this person? If so, spill the beans, ...
Brian Henderson
hender@wam.umd.edu
"He's an *evil* prince, dear...and part-time theater critic." -- Harry
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:34:27 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: This'n'that
Message-ID: <19970912234429.AAA13671@sni.pananet.com>
> Last night's edition of Metalla featured Savatage and their new album.
What
> I heard reinforced my opinion of Savatage - this sort of music just
doesn't
> do anything for me. They played a video (I think from Gutter Ballet) that
> contained almost all of the cliches I could think of for this genre -
long
> hair being waved around, wanky solos that are accompanied by lots of
> grimaces, tight trousers, shots of forests by night with flames
everywhere.
hmmm...reminds me of some video i've seen...hmmm, I think it was by Napalm
Death...'Pull me Over" or something like that...
:P
Ernesto
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:50:29 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Help out...
Message-ID: <19970912235400.AAA13887@sni.pananet.com>
> Ernesto Schnack and I are gathering people to help out DT with the
> promotion side of FII. This might even turn into something bigger than
> that, but for right now it's going to be just about FII. If you're
ok, due to the incredible reesponse we got from this (a whopping FOUR
replies), I'll follow up on this. This is something serious, or at least
it will be if enough ppl get interested. RIght now, we're getting ppl
together to help DT out...but after that, hopefully, it will turn into a
huge underground network. The basic idea is to get ALL the music-lovers on
the net together. This way all artists, by promoting themselves here, will
be given a fair chance. But we need more ppl...and I'd personally like
more ppl involved in the planning process.
This will be a big 'FUCK YOU' to the music industry. The net has made such
a thing possible. It's up to us to make it happen.
intersted? email John or me at:
>
> John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
> Ernesto Schnack ernie@pananet.com
>
Ernesto
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:51:44 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Berklee
Message-ID: <19970912235400.AAB13887@sni.pananet.com>
Well, it's official now...I will be going to Berklee in January
Bostonjammers, you have been warned
:P
with no fucking guarantee,
Ernesto
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 21:02:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: FII Mirror Site
Message-ID: <199709130102.VAA25335@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
I will shortly have a mirror site up for FII, in the US, off of a T1.
You can access it at http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/dt.html There
is a note there now stating that the site is down. I will remove that
when the server is up (it is being served by a different machine).
Hopefully we can get some more mirror sites up there as well...
-- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | It's all about you not me | Dream Theater: Falling Into Infinity | | It's all about the things that you're expecting me to be +----------+ | There's not enough time to live +--------------+ In Stores| | With all that you're expecting me to give | Sept. 23, 1997| +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+ Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Join Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:50:42 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Berry <andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: UK Release - 20th October Message-ID: <Marcel-1.26-0912085042-bc8evuQ@aberry.demon.co.uk>
In <URL:news:local.ytsejam> on Thu 11 Sep, djw_at_neon@smtpgate.walker.com wrote: > > I've just been told by a chap at HMV (I've been hassling him > for > weeks so - I believe this to be true) that FII will be released > in the > UK on the 20th October through Warner.
Thanks for the info - let's hope HMV have got it right...
-- +--Andrew Berry (webmaster, Metal Links) ----------------------------------+ | 4700 links to metal pages - http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk/metallinks/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Watch the sparrow falling, gives new meaning to it all. | | If not today nor yet tomorrow then some other day." | +-------------------------------------------------- - Dream Theater ------+
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:30:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: porntoy lyrics Message-ID: <199709130230.WAA03998@umbc8.umbc.edu>
> I have never before payed attention to Change of Season lyrics, and it > was only a few days ago when I read it for the first time. > When I listened to I&W (which is my fav) I saw that the best lyrics was > written by KM and JP - they were the best poets, don't know who wrote > Awake lyrics (I only have the album taped), but MP really surprised me. > I guess he is the best poet of them - even KM's lyrics is worse (though > I considered it to be the best).
I couldn't agree more. I have always though this, ever since I first heard the TDoE version of ACoS, then The Mirror and eventually the new ACoS confirmed it.
Kevin still deserves much credit, though, epecially for Surrounded and Don't Look Past Me.
Steve Z
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:21:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Genesis Review (on Webpage, not here!) Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970912232152.24b76880@access.mountain.net>
Someone asked a while ago if I'd mention when I put a detailed review of the new Genesis on my web page. Well, it's there.
Just go to http://access.mountain.net/~rael/reviews.htm and follow the links. Look for _FII_ there the weekend after it's release (probably).
Oh yeah, some DTC: Well, I really like "Hell's Kitchen" so far of the 3 new tunes I've snatched off the net.
Jam On,
Jonathan Byrne, 2L; WVU Collge of Law rael@access.mountain.net Album Reviews, Race Results, Commentary, and more at: http://access.mountain.net/~rael/home.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- "If something like this meant so much to you Would you walk away and leave it, Or die with the taste still in your mouth?" -Ray Weston and Brett Kull, "Those That Want to Buy", echolyn
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:15:12 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_=C6nima?= Message-ID: <19970913022644.AAA21976@sni.pananet.com>
> Tool. There, I said it. AEnima by Tool surprised the hell out of me. > Not for its instrumental virtuosity or anything, mind you. There's
yep, i've said once and i'll say it again: Ænima is one awesome cd. The songs are just excellently crafted to grab you from the beginning and let you go till they end...and a lot of the time staying away from traditional structure. The guitarist sure ain't no Vai, but over the years he's devoloped a very unique style (actually kinda Fripp-ish during the solos). The vocalist is not the best but has a very cool voice and sings very emotionally..and the lyrics are great too. And drummer is just incredible...he *is* a virtuoso on drums. In fact I believe he studied at some jazz conservatory. He's just amazing..and uses electronic percussion in a very imaginative way. And I personally consider Tool to be progressive. Not part of the 'prog rock' genre, but their ideas and songwriting are progressive and innovative.
They're much more than the creepy metal dudes MTV makes you think they are.
Ernesto
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:15:09 -0500 From: yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: good newz - bad newz Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970912231509.007baa70@mail.theonramp.net>
our local rock station here in Ft. Smith, Arkansas has been playing "Burning My Soul" this week. friends have been approaching me where i work commenting on how awesome this song is. kewl!
the bad newz is that i don't think there are going to be enuff cd's available on Sept 23rd for everyone that's showing an interest. i've checked with a few places to see how many they have ordered and my guess (and it's only a guess cos i don't count so good ;-) is that a whole lot more people are going to buy this cd then what's initially being shipped in.
hint: for those of us that didn't order FII in advance *yzzy slaps himself* be sure to get to your favorite rock shop early on the 23rd. ;-)
yzzy //Iz*zee//E*zee//E*ziz*ee//Y*z*z*y//Izzzzz
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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:21:51 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com> To: Freaks R Us <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT CONCERT REVIEW, Part II Message-ID: <33F465FF.3FF0BC68@geocities.com>
Hey there jammanoids!!!
I'm still kinda dizzy (just took a good shower, I was stinking like hell!!!), the concert tonight was great!
Dr. Sin opened again, and played a different setlist this time: they included their hit "Down in the Trenches", and also had a special guest appearance by Johnattan Mover (sp?, that guy from Satch's band), who played a song with them. It was a longer show than yesterdays, and they seemed to have fixed the problems with the sound, although the keyboards were still null, and the bass too low.
Now for DT: the setlist was exactly the same as Thursday's (wanna see it? Read the jams you lazy asses, I'm pretty tired to write it all down again.), with a little correction to the order played: swap "Peruvian Skies" and "Just Let Me Breath", and you have it (I was not sure of that yesterday). I think there was some sort of problem with JP's guitars and Derek's keyboards, they were sounding pretty weird sometimes... Myung's bass was a little higher today, but could be much more higher. LaBrie's vocals were awesome again, and I don't need to comment anything about Portnoy, he kick serious butt!!! (Yeah, he stopped his solo in the middle of "The Ytsejam" - actually, because he threw his stick to the air and did not reach it =) -, got a camera and started to film the crowd! Man, it was amazing! =) ) Besides the sound problems, the concert was GREAT, and the crowd was crazy like never before!!! Everybody jumping around, and singing all the songs along with LaBrie... it really kicked ass!!!
Damn... there'll be no more concerts around here... Now I'll have to wait 'till 98 to see them again (and let them know we'll be reminding them of their promise!!! =) )
-- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* vanzin@geocities.com *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:56:58 -0400 (EDT) From: JE78674@ltu.edu To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Yes, TILES is a prog band from Detroit Message-ID: <01INKQ0X4AN6934VSZ@LTU.EDU>
This is a reply to the guy who mentioned them before. A fellow Detroit area Ytsejammer, Andrew Garinger, has mentioned them and had spoken very highly of them. I am still to buy their first and so far only album under their own name. I believe it was an independant release....
Later,
Jeff E.
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 01:18:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: crazy koba's blowaway cd sale Message-ID: <970913011800_-996922197@emout18.mail.aol.com>
hey there. i'm back, and i'm still peddling my cd's. i've actually gotten a few customers, and i'd really like to get rid of as many as possible. if you are interested, or know of any friends that are, drop me an email. this is updated, with a few bonus additions. see ya.
ytsegoon
>the following items are up for grabs. all items include postage.
>$5 >-jimi hendrix "the ultimate bbc collection 1967" (boot) >-fight "immortal sin" (autographed) >-megadeth "sweating bullets" (maxi single) > >$8 >-vai "sex and religion" >-best of emerson, lake and palmer >-tom waits "small change" >-symphonic music of yes >-guns and roses "use your illusion 2" >-the alan parsons project "eve" >-megadeth "youthanasia" tales from yesterday- the yes magna carta tribute (NEW!) king crimson- "in the court of the crimson king" (NEW!) rage against the machine (NEW!)
>$12 >an evening of yes music plus (2 gold cd's) >yes "yessongs" (2 cd's, converted into a slim double jewel case)
open to best offer: tori amos- "inside the storm" #46.
the yes package (REVISED) both yes double cd's, the symphonic yes, and the magna carta tribute packaged together for $33, which would be 7 bucks off.
those with interest or inquiries are welcome to email me. peace out.
****************************************************************************** * david y. kobayashi the new york law school thrak75@aol.com dkobayashi@nyls.edu
"better to save the mystery, than surrender to the secret." -j. petrucci ****************************************************************************** *
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 02:45:27 -0700 From: Dennis Ferreira <dennisf@achei.net> To: metropolis@arastar.com Subject: DT in Brazil Message-ID: <341A60B7.21B4@achei.net>
I'm sorry about my poor english but .. do you speak portuguese? Well, they started with "A Change of Seasons" and in the middle of it they started another song, and another, and as you know they still mixing songs from piece to piece. La Brie was dressing a yellow Brazilian Soccer T-Shirt and his voice was perfect. Only now I realize Portnoy had cutted a lot of his hair down and so did Petrucci. They played "The Silent Man" including drums and the guitar solo became a electric guitar solo with a soft distortion. The crowd was getting insane cuz this was the first show of DT in Brazil and I believe they liked us and come back soon. La Brie was excited with the feedback from people. They played "Caught in a Web" slowlier and heavier. They played about 4 new songs. Well, Sao Paulo is always ready for DT concerts again, as always!!
Dennis Ferreira dennisf@achei.net Achei!! A internet come=E7a aqui. http://www.achei.net The Brazilian Search Engine
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 03:10:02 -0300 From: "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br> To: "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: * I feel good! * Message-ID: <199709130612.DAA29952@ibpinetsp.com.br>
Okay, people.. Just got back from the second DT concert here in Brazil. The setlist was exactly the same of yesterday's show (Vanza posted it), but with some particular details. After the (short) drumsolo at Ytsejam, Portnoy did the usual pause, got his handcam and taped the crowd. Don't need to say that he got an awesome return from us... :) Everybody screamin' Dream Theater, with the band doing the rhythm. Very cool... Then, MP felt like it was time to continue the song, and they started.. BUT it happened a very unusual "instrumental-disorder".. :) After a stop-and-go, they restarted. It was funny to see the guys with a little misunderstanding.. :) And after the enormous instrumental-jam-solo on Learning To Live, LaBrie forgot to come back to sing the end of the song, so we and Portnoy did it.
That's my little review.. Certainly will be more from the fellow brazilian jammers.. Anything else you guys want to know, just email me privately.
See ya'
Dan Souza soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br "Love is the dance of Internet." :)
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 03:03:21 -0500 From: "David Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Seven Wonders - Nearly 10 hours of bootlegs for $22 Message-ID: <19970913080447.AAA13365@hombre>
Hi, my name is Ryan Whitaker. I'm producing a CD called Seven Wonders, which contains all of Mike Bahr's past Dream Theater bootlegs (Subconscious, Acoustic Dreams, When Dream and Today Unite, Antiquities, Scenes from a Memory, Precious Things, The Darkest of Winters) and as a bonus the 2CD masterpiece bootleg, Mind Control, all on ONE disc in MP3 format, which translates to nearly 10 hours of original CD-quality music. And you can play all these songs from the CD without copying to your hard drive. Nearly 65 discs have been reserved. Don't miss out! For more information and comprehensive details on your order status, please visit: http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236
Thanks, D. Ryan Whitaker David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:20:46 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Levin + DT Message-ID: <01BCC055.F82EC8A0@Dukat.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Here's something someone posted on the Marillion list.
> this is from http://www.papabear.com/tlev.htm, Tony Levins home > page. i know where are a lot of DT fans here that might be > interested in this: > > In a few weeks I'll be going into the studio with two players from > the group "Dream Theater," Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci. We'll be > joined by an excellent keyboard player, Jordan Rudes - and I'm hoping > the result will be something worthwhile.
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:52:20 +0200 From: David Di Tivoli <dream@pronet.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FII samples page Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970913145220.00894100@pronet.it>
For me that's a joke.........
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 00:10:37 +1000 (EST) From: ~ME~ <breuric@tpgi.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Radio Message-ID: <199709131410.AAA10638@random.tpgi.com.au>
>I noticed on a recent jam someone said that their local rock station >had played "Burning My Soul," and that we should all send e-mail to >that station asking them to continue to play it. This sounds like a >good idea to me, and in fact, why not extend it further? The local >rock station here in San Jose, California (KSJO 92.3) has a web page >from which you can make song requests. The URL for requests is: > >http://www.ksjo.com/music/suggestions/suggestions.html > >I would encourage those of you who have an extra few minutes to go >to this web page and request Burning My Soul. You will be helping >Dream Theater by giving them more airplay, thus exposing them to a >larger audience. Does anyone else want to mention a local radio >station to contact? > >-Paul Humm >humm@levy.com
If any ones interested in helping DT on the radio in Australia heres a national staion - JJJ - 's request page - http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/requests.htm
and my local station Power FM - http://www.powerfm.com.au/pownowra.htm
Aussie jammers go to it!! (and anyone else who'd like - thanks....
BTW I have to listen to these two stations all day at work 5days a week and their music selection is really crap *most* of the time.... be compassionate , and help make my day :)
(I just requested Burn My Soul at both)
ta, zajk-
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