YTSEJAM Digest 2977
Today's Topics:
1) re: YTSEJAM digest 2974
by mwal@econ.vu.nl
2) Where Are You Now (revisited)
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
3) Australian FII release date.
by Chris Groves <cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au>
4) UK Jammers, FII double CD
by David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
5) UPside your head!
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
6)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
7) Polite Musicians
by Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com>
8) Re: CDNow and FII
by brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com
9) Want a band!
by Sami Poimala <spoimala@silmu.cc.jyu.fi>
10) Two things
by "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
11) DT notes for keys?
by Sami Poimala <spoimala@silmu.cc.jyu.fi>
12) Re: Petrucci's style
by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
13) Re: Another One Bites The Dust...
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
14) Re: Album covers
by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
15) Japan release
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
16) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2976
by Mike Muscarella <MuscarellaM@HARTWICK.EDU>
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 97 9:57:04 MET
From: mwal@econ.vu.nl
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: YTSEJAM digest 2974
Message-ID: <vines.Y+I8+zRv5oA@ecu.econ.vu.nl>
>The only thing that I don't like about Spock's Beard is their choice of
>words on the first album. One song is called FU and contains the word
>"fuck" about 10-12 times. This bugs me (even though the vocal melody by
>which it is sung and music is great). I hate to hear prog groups use words
>like these. And I don't say this from a moral point of view, either. So
>if you don't like my opinion, please understand where I'm coming from.
My copy has a sticker on it that says something like "If you are likely to be
offended, you are very sad and should not buy this cd".
But I agree with you that words like fuck don't belong in prog lyrics. A song
from Dreamt Theater with rap-music wouldn't fit either.
Marc
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 04:06:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Where Are You Now (revisited)
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.970917035520.118518A-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
Whoever was raving about "Where are you Now" not
> making the cut - I can't believe it either.
That was me. Don't even get me started :). I actually played the .ra file
of it over the phone to a friend of mine in Arizona (actually, he was the
one who first turned me on to DT all those years ago) and he was
speechless. AT first I only played him until after the first chorus and
asked him, "Well, what do ya think?" He said, "Put it back on." I said,
"Well, okay, but what do you think?" He said, "Put it back on....NOW!!!"
Afterwards, even with the shitty sound quality, he said, and I quote,
"(silence) Rich, that was the most (silence) incredible thing I've ever
heard." He went on to say that it just might be one of his favorite DT
songs, just on that one listen.
Oh yeah: it's a good thing this song came around when it did. If I
wasn't spending all my free time listening to it, I might have been
tempted to respond to the
"Motley-Crue-can't-evoke-emotions-with-their-music-so-they-have-to-swear"
message that was posted here. We wouldn't want that, now would we?
Richie
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 18:25:22 +1000
From: Chris Groves <cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Australian FII release date.
Message-ID: <l03020900b04544288292@[131.217.133.99]>
Hi, according to a local Brashs, 'Falling Into Infinity' will be
released in Australia on the 27th of September, not sure if this is an
import or not, a friend saw an AD for it, and told me.... Brashs
advertising Dream Theater.... all Australians now ask if wonders will ever
cease.
Seeya!
Chris Groves.
cdgroves@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 05:33:30 -0400
From: David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: UK Jammers, FII double CD
Message-ID: <199709170540_MC2-20CB-1027@compuserve.com>
I have just spoken to a friend of mine that deal with some mail order
company that does A LOT of prog stuff. When he asked about FII the guy
said that it wasn't being released in the UK, but then added he will
be getting some from somewhere and that they will be about $20,
"that's a bit expensive, is that because it's an import" my friend
said "oh it's a double CD" came the reply "I will have it about 5 days
after the US release date.
I seriously hope this is true, I give it a high probability as this
guy really knows his stuff (according to my friend).
I haven't got a contact number just yet but as soon as I do I will
confirm it myself and let all interested know.
Also he will have the Rudess & Morgenstein project soon.
Dave
Boston, England.
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:42:27 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: UPside your head!
Message-ID: <341FD033.1E4D@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Rick wrote:
> Now class, please inform Mr. Glover where the Majesty logo is.
class? Class? CLASS, SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
Actually, believe or not, there's an UPside to Nutscrape hogging the
color map! Not sure about other platforms, but if you run Netscape with
the -install option, it runs with its own, private color map.
At first, this may cause several anurisms as you switch between Nut and
Non-Nutscrape apps. But the UPside is you can see all the subliminal
advertising that you've been missing since about 1969 :)
See, there was this commercial for Lincoln way back when, right? Right!
Over the hood of black Continenta was draped a gorgeous blonde, to
entice you into buying the car. So you figure the subliminal message is
"the possibility of sex sells cars", right?
WRONG!
What they found out shortly afterwards, was that whenever people saw
large black cars driving by, they immediately wanted to have sex...
Powerful stuff, eh?
This post was brought to by the number 69 :)
Buh bye,
JP
-- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*"Drifting with the current This stream of life flows on" -- John Myung
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 08:54:30 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199709171254.IAA29106@wi.cs.wm.edu>
> From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> > Subject: FW opening for DT????? > =
> Anyone else hear about this?! Damn I hope this is true..mainly cuz I > know that FATES will be playing a lot better venues (remember the Lodow= n > fiasco...what a nightmare!)
Wow. (Not much else to say, is there?)
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> From: "Rainer" <rpandean@mail.usyd.edu.au> > Subject: Guitar and Petrucci > =
> Just interested in knowing how many guitar players there are on this li= st.
Too many. :)
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> From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: WFS, FII review, ANM, cuss words > =
> > WFS is one of the most beautiful pieces of music that DT has ever > > composed (IMHO). I replay the track over and over before hitting LTL=
> > which is a great track as well. But just one question...Why is it th= at > > for the three versions I have heard on bootlegs, it is never played a= s > =
> Well, those versions seem to be recorded while they were still looking = for > KevMo's replacement, because there are zero keyboards in there. I don't=
> think they've played WFS on stage since Kev left (I could be wrong). In= any
They have (for instance, Birch Hill 12/96), and they've done it acoustica= lly.
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> From: "The Artist Formerly Known As woot" <woot@crypted.com> > Subject: backing vocals and chapman stick > =
> Can somebody post a list of where on FII JM uses a stick? =
MP discussed this in the IRC chat, so wherever the transcripts of that wo= und =
up... http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/portnoy.txt has a text-only version. = You =
can try there.
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> From: djw_at_neon@smtpgate.walker.com > Subject: JLB... > =
> I finally got to hear "Eve" and "To Live Forever" - I must say t= hat =
> TLF may well be my fave DT song ever...er...it rocks..!
Told ya. :)
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cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gate= s d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a be= d http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Pear= t -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions Lis= t http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 07:55:59 -0500 From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Polite Musicians Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970917075557.0068f734@enteract.com>
>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 14:12:36 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Christian Albert Schulze a.k.a. KillMary" <caschulze@mindspring.com> >Subject: .02 cents > >On to some hot topics!!! > >1) Is KJLB an asshole? > Maybe. Maybe not. Neil Peart is known for being rude to fans. Geoff Tate >always seems to be an asshole in his interviews that I have read/seen. > Okay, I'm going to step in and take the defensive on this one. I don't know which interviews you've read/seen, but in my experience, Geoff seems to be a cool person. I've met him twice in person, backstage at shows, and both times he was very friendly, chatting up with the fans and taking a lot of pictures. On Politically Incorrect, he didn't actually say much...I think he preferred to watch the politicians bitch each other out. :) And the day before the HITNF tour in Chicago, they had a radio interview/contest, and I sat there and laughed through most of it! (especially when the DJ got him to say "empire") Maybe he's been cranky a few times (hey, the band's been together for about 15 years, there are times when you're going to get sick of hearing the same questions) but, from my experience, the whole band is very cool. So there are my 0.0125 cents....
-Maddy
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 08:56:54 -0400 From: brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com To: " - (052)ytsejam(a)ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: CDNow and FII Message-ID: <0010200001322442000002L022*@MHS>
> From: "Tom Baddley" <tbaddley@ontheair.com> < Subject: CDNow's "Customized" Email Update > < CDNow has a service that allows them to update you via Email > upcoming and recent releases. Supposedly, this is customized < according to the type of music that I like. Of course, there > was no catagory for the type music I listen to, so they send < me the generic Pop/Alternative new releases. Falling Into > Infinity was not on there among all of the other September < releases (and they even had a new Jackson Browne CD listed... > so they can't possibly claim DT is too obscure). < > Anyway...it bothered me enough to send a complaint to their < customer service department. Here is the email that I sent > them, and the response they gave me.
Now that's very interesting. I got an update from them almost two weeks ago, and batting number one in the "Open for Adavance Ordering" section was FII. Needless to say, I was pleasantly surprised. Maybe you need to try another music category. I don't remember what mine is, but it's probably something like Hard Rock/Metal.
And in other news, BMG's album selection this time around was a two disc sampler from Metal Blade. It's got two tracks by FW including APSoG II, a track by GC (Evil Twin), and a track by Helstar. I'll be sure to post a review when it arrives.
"Briiiaaaaan!!" "Kiiirrrrrrk!!" - Joe, Wings - Khan, Wrath of Khan brian.kirk@usvgi.mail.abb.com Write me. If you dare!
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:17:18 +0300 (EET DST) From: Sami Poimala <spoimala@silmu.cc.jyu.fi> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Want a band! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970917161458.32490B-100000@silmu.cc.jyu.fi>
Hi!
I'm a keyboardist from centre Finland and I'm looking for a heavy band. Of course, the style should be something like DT, but also straighter line is OK.
My other favourite bands are: Stratovarius, Black Sabbath, Fates Warning, Savatage etc.
So, if You are from Finland and lookink for a keyboard player, I'm the one for You!
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:17:52 +0200 From: "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de> To: "The Ytsejam Crowd" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Two things Message-ID: <9709171323.AA28171@server3.software-ag.de>
Hi all
once again I'm looking for some info about a band. This time, the band comes from America and is called 'Tesseract'. Their web page describes their sound as 'pompous dinosaur progressive art rock'. They also use analog keyboards and a violin. Has anybody seen them or heard the album? Considering how much I like Spock's Beard, this could be a band for me (their favourite links on the web page also include ELP, Genesis and Gentle Giant). Please help!
The second point: my trusty CD dealer has just sent me an e-mail (now that's what I call service) to let me know that the new Vanden Plas album "The God Thing" has arrived, and that he expects to see me later this afternoon. Expect a review in the next couple of days.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Lake Of Tears - Headstones
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:19:00 +0300 (EET DST) From: Sami Poimala <spoimala@silmu.cc.jyu.fi> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT notes for keys? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970917161721.32490C-100000@silmu.cc.jyu.fi>
Hello!
Does anyone know whether there are some DT notes in the market - for keyboard? I have looked for a long time, but I've reached only guitar tablatures. So, if you know some notes, plese, contact me!
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:03:03 -0500 From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Petrucci's style Message-ID: <19970917135839804.AAA230@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
Rainer wrote:
>Seems like most subscribers are keyboard or bass players. What do you guys >think of Petrucci's guitar style?
I love it. No doubt about it. It's intelligent writing, with a good mix of shred and melody. (After all, shredding *is* melodic, it's just played at light speed) I feel that most of the time I'm saying, "Hey - that's exactly what I wanted to hear right there." In my earlier guitar playing days, solos were just noise that I couldn't play. As years passed and I improved speed and agility I found I could crank out solos like some of the people I was listening to at the time. Petrucci certainly puts up a great challenge because of the length and clarity of his runs, and as far as what I look for in style, he delivers. Thank you for listening to my life story. :) · • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:45:39 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Another One Bites The Dust... Message-ID: <341FDF03.2DDA@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Brain wrote:
> Anyhow, I'm thinking about doing the sub position, but I'd like to toss the > question out to the 'Jam community as a whole. What do you kids think I > should do?
Take the job, give the appearance of conformance, then.....
Lock the doors to the studio, turn the transmitter power way up, slap FII in, ignite a cigar, put the feet up on the desk, and enjoy. Mission accomplished :)
>> Rachel A. Weintraub raw@wmuc.umd.edu >> Assistant Program Director, 650 WMUC AM
Well, there ya go, the reason why she's still an assistant! And somehow, a user id of 'raw' just doesn't fit given her response :)
>> Check out WMUC's Web Page: www.wmuc.umd.edu
Uh, yuh, I'll be sure and head right on over, hun :) Soon as I finish the directing the lint cleaning program that airs weekly in my navel...
You know, I just started thinking back to when I grew up (back when the thought of any Year 2000 software problems were a joke :) How little it actually mattered if the groups we were into got airplay!
We already had the albums and we went to see them live when they came around. We all hung out together, played the music and just didn't care what other people thought or why they couldn't get into it. It wasn't our goal to enlighten the world. But they played it on the radio anyways :) As much as we tried to stop them :)
> Take it easy, and everyone have some fun on the 23rd!!!!
> -Shane
Best advice I've seen!
Regards,
Jon
*------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
"Drifting with the current This stream of life flows on" -- John Myung
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:12:55 -0500 From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Album covers Message-ID: <19970917140832275.AAA137@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
Shane Liebling wrote: >I think the cover of an album is one of the most intergal parts of the >ALBUM itself. When one picks up a good album, the entirety of it as a >whole are going to lead toward a certain theme, and I am not just talking >about concept albums, though I might later. A good album is made up of >numerous parts, the music, the lyrics, the production, the booklet, etc. >But the cover is the coup de grace. With a good cover everything is >brought into focus and the true essence can be, in a sense seen in the >album in addition to being heard. Agreed. All I know is that real band who give a shit about their presentation (which they should if they have brains) have good album covers. Take a look at some crap bands... you know most of them out there right now. They usually consist of a one page polaroid of a pile of dirt with the band's name written on it in pink crayon. Also, to add to the best album covers of all time list that someone posted:
• Benediction : Transcend the Rubicon (British death metal band) • Manowar : Kings of Metal, The Triumph of Steel, Louder Than Hell • Any Molly Hatchet album I can think of... though I don't own any. • Iced Earth : Burnt Offerings, The Dark Saga, Days of Purgatory - AND OF COURSE - • DT : I&W (do I really need to write that one out? :) ) · • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:29:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Japan release Message-ID: <199709171429.KAA10249@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
I was just wondering if you could tell me the release date in Japan. I was hearing that it was delayed a while back. Any info., would be great.
mad CD reviews to come............
-Al -- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 11:10:13 -0400 From: Mike Muscarella <MuscarellaM@HARTWICK.EDU> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2976 Message-ID: <01BCC35A.47697DA0@MUSCARELLAMN1.hartwick.edu>
Replying to Rainer's question about guitar players....
I am a guitar player with influences from the likes of Vai, Satch, = morse, bettencourt, but my #1 is Petrucci. I really feel that he has a = unique sensitivity with the instrument, and i agree, Awake was his = first truely "unique" album. I will be interested to see how many other guitarists come out of the = woodwork.
Mike Muscarella > guitarist, 'Round About Midnight.
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