YTSEJAM Digest 2985
Today's Topics:
1) Tempest
by "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2984
by "Rob Doyle" <c694232@showme.missouri.edu>
3) And yet another quick review!
by onion@pangea.ca
4)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
5) Falling Into Infinity
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
6) FII-- Love those MP3's
by Ricardo <fargo@brown.edu>
7) Re: And yet another quick review!
by Eckie <eckie@asu.edu>
8) Re: Rudis/Morganstein CD review
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
9) Boston CD Stores (NDTC)
by Kamaras Katalin <kamaras@sunserv.kfki.hu>
10) Tool??
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
11) The triumphant return of the Lemurs
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
12) lines in the sand
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
13) DT on the Radio - Keep it up!!!
by Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net>
14) Re: SNES/Genesis
by "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
15) Dickinson
by "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
16) CD for sale Yes- Keys To Ascension
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
17) The Emulators
by Eckie <eckie@asu.edu>
18) Artension keyboardist
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi>
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:40:01 +0000
From: "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tempest
Message-ID: <199709182342.TAB73720@node1.frontiernet.net>
>I know Tempest isn't really prog metal perhaps Celtic prog but does
>anyone have their new cd? How's it compare to their first effort.
>According to the Magna Carta site, Tempest is on tour.
I don't have their CD, but they are on tour. I just saw them
last tuesday night. It was in a local bar . . . not many people
there, maybe 40 if you count the bartenders, waiters, and sound
people. I think there were some Magna Carta people there too, since
Magna Carta is based around here (Rochester, NY). Anyway, I don't
really know what to say about their music, since it was the first
time I've ever heard them. Alls I can say is that they sound like
they're described: Norwegian Folk Celtic Rock. With an electric
Violin (or fiddle or whatever) and a double neck electric Mandolin in
the band, you can see where they would sound like folk rock.
I don't know what to say . . . I guess I enjoyed the music . . .
something different. But they were definately talented, I can say
that. Oh well, I may have to order one of their albums sometime.
-Brian Anderson
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 19:47:18 -0500
From: "Rob Doyle" <c694232@showme.missouri.edu>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2984
Message-ID: <199709190046.TAA72688@sp2n09.missouri.edu>
To Parmet and anybody else wondering-
Metropolis is by a German director named Fritz Lang who
made the movie in 1926 and subsequently had it hacked to absolute
pieces by American "editors" (what they called psychopaths back then)
and it was released with TWO HOURS cut in the U.S.
anyway- you can still get it now at video stores (sometimes)
in a slightly different version that was put together by producer/composer
Giorgio Moroder- it has a rock sound track and has a lot of frames actually
tinted, as Lang had indicated was originally an intent of his.
Anyway- the point is- Metropolis is actually the name of the city
that the rich people live in - while the working class- the slaves-
toil endlessly in the depths to keep the city running for those elite few.
The robot, who has no official name, but was dubbed "the Maria robot"
as it eventually takes on the likeness of a girl named Maria- was the
basis for C-3PO and a host of other "robot" movies.
Incidentally, the movie is being restructured at a museum in Germany who
have tried to re-create many of the lost scenes, since after being cut, the
prints
were badly burned, through old out-takes and still photographs.
Check it out- it's worth it.
But there are too versions out there- beware- personally, I prefer the
newer
1984 remaster- but if you get a chance to see the original (shorter) B&W
version
do it!
Sorry if this is too long
-Sarcophage
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:51:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: onion@pangea.ca
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: And yet another quick review!
Message-ID: <199709190051.TAA25612@surf.pangea.ca>
Hey fellow jammers,
Listening to FII right now, although I have had a three song promo for about
a week and a half now. My only opinion of it is......brilliant!
The production is excellent, I can hear JM, and it's a total band effort. I
think every open-minded DT fan is going to dig it.
I also think the boys have a hit on their hands with YNM. Any song that
stays in my head for a week non-stop.....
I manage a record store in Canada, and I'm determined to get this CD in the
Top fifteen the week it comes out, maybe even the top 10! I have a lot of
cool prog customers who I know will buy it, and some of my regulars (who
don't even like DT) really liked BMS and YNM. Unfortunately, we are
competing against the Bjork and Boyz II Men in the same week. Yuck.
I also stock every available domestic and import CD that I can get. How
many votes do I get for the coolest record store.
Enjoy the CD's jammers! Can't wait to hear your comments in the next week!
Ian
Musiplex home page: http://www.plexxus.mb.ca/
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:56:14 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <199709190056.UAA12547@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> Subject: Just Let Me Breed :)
>
> thing I noticed was a movie done in 1926 called METROPROLIS!!!! Now I
> have to go find this to see if Metropolis is the name of a robot in it,
> which would, of course, add new meaning to "Metropolis watches and
> thoughtfully smiles".....
It would be even cooler if there were twin robots named... oh, never mind.
----> From: Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl> > Subject: Lemur Voice update, The gathering > > Anyway, we have six titles so far, they are: > > - Parvedian Trust
Poor Vanessa. (Sorry, Marcel, couldn't resist that one. :)
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> From: Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu> > Subject: Jordan Rudess > > Rudess turned DT down to play with the Dregs. To tell you how good he > is, he did not have much time to rehearse with DT for the few shows he > played, so he sight read all the keyboard parts on stage.
Ow, my head hurts just thinking about that.
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 97 20:59:19 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng" To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Falling Into Infinity Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+lqQ6oA@tcx.tcco.com>
After listening to the CD 6 times, it finally got me hooked. I think it's definitely more "accessible" for the average listener.
My only complaint is on "Take Away My Pain". I think the live version from the Fix for 96 show was so much more passionate. On the CD, it sounds like just another ballad. I definitely think it will become one of my favorite CDs once I get more familiar with the songs.
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:05:22 -0400 From: Ricardo <fargo@brown.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FII-- Love those MP3's Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19970918210522.006b9930@postoffice.brown.edu>
Well. I downloaded the 44 KHz MP3 files for all of the new songs of off FII(From a Web-Site in Hungary), and finally hooked up my computer to my stereo. All I can say, is that I am thoroughly impressed with the material on FII. Result: I'll by this CD in a new yourk minute!!! I must admit, when I was introduced to the low-quality version of "You Not Me", I was a little bit worried. I thought for a second that they had gone low-fi. That, however, is not the case. I love this CD!!!!!! I have been listening too it day in and day out for the past 3 days!!! For those who were worried about Derek, don't. He has certainly found his niche. Anyway, I don't want to get into it too much. I'd rather wait for the real CD to come out. So until then,
Mata Atode
Rick
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:24:39 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@asu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: And yet another quick review! Message-ID: <3421D457.EB92E468@asu.edu>
> I manage a record store in Canada, and I'm determined to get this CD in the > Top fifteen the week it comes out, maybe even the top 10! I have a lot of > cool prog customers who I know will buy it, and some of my regulars (who > don't even like DT) really liked BMS and YNM. Unfortunately, we are > competing against the Bjork and Boyz II Men in the same week. Yuck.
WOO! Okay, here's a thought...it's cheating, but for a good cause.... ;D
When it comes out, advertise that DT is the number 1 new release, ahead of Butts II Moose and Bjoke, and if people ask you what the hell is up with that, then well, KICK THIER ASSES....no no no, tell them DT is the "next big thing" and everybody seems to be buying it before everybody else knows about it (We all know how cool those people are who buy albums from bands that aren't well known and then say they suck after they make it big....)
Heh heh heh, that'd be cool.
~Eckie strikes AGAIN
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:26:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rudis/Morganstein CD review Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970918212640.096f5eb0@access.mountain.net>
At 09:17 PM 9/17/97 -0700, someone wrote: >Damon didst say unto the masses: >> I just have to >> wonder though: are there any other keyboard-based prog rock bands besides >> Rudis/Morganstein, ELP, and Magellan? I am completely hooked on keyboard >> oriented music that is progressive. Somebody point me to more of this stuff. > >Here we go... > >One word: "Mastermind". The only band I think of as 'keyboard metal.'
Uh, um, well, actually, Mastermind's "keyboard" stuff is actually Bill Berends playing MIDI guitar. No real keys, at least on the two albums I have.
>If you can find it, the British band "Shadowland" is awesome; it has Clive >Nolan on keys. Clive is also keys for >"IQ", "Pendragon", and "Arena", but they aren't keyboard-driven the way >Shadowland is.
I guess two out of three ain't bad. :) Actually, the keyboard player for IQ is Martin Orford, not Clive (tho with all the projects he has, it's an easy mistake). I own both the first Arena album and Shadoland's _Mad as A Hatter_ and find nothing special about the keyboard playing on either one. Same with the one Pendragon I heard. I guess that's just me, tho'.
Just thought I'd clear that up.
Jonathan Byrne, 2L; WVU Collge of Law rael@access.mountain.net Album Reviews, Race Results, Commentary, and more at: http://access.mountain.net/~rael/home.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- "If something like this meant so much to you Would you walk away and leave it, Or die with the taste still in your mouth?" -Ray Weston and Brett Kull, "Those That Want to Buy", echolyn
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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:40:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Kamaras Katalin <kamaras@sunserv.kfki.hu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Boston CD Stores (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970919033726.25666A-100000@sunserv.kfki.hu>
Hi!
Does anyone know a CD Store in the Boston area where I could get the Japanese Version of FII? Also, does anyone know when it will be released? Thanks.
Kristof kamaras@sunserv.kfki.hu
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 22:47:37 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tool?? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970918224222.11644C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Ok, ok...
I *know* that Tool has been discussed a lot here, but I didn't care for those reviews until I saw their video "Aenima". It is really strange, but very interesting. And not very heavy (like I like :-) ). So, I'd like to know what you can say about this weird band and what I should try to hear first.
I've seen some reviews from "common" people on some webpages. Comments ranging from "They're *THE* greatest band in the F@CKIN' world" to "Please, do yourself a favour and don't buy their trendy album". I must say that I got a little confused. Could you clear this situation to me, please? Any comments are welcome.
The only things that I know is that they have 2 albums and that everyone seems to find their songs strange, with unusual lyrics (are the lyrics interesting?)
Thank you very much for any comments, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 22:44:42 -0400 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The triumphant return of the Lemurs Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970918224442.00691cdc@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Our resident Lemur, Marcel, quoth:
>Long time ago !!!! I've been off the web for a while, I was really busy >lately, but I am back now, The homepage is also updated with some things, >nothing special, but we are making arrangements for our forthcoming release >(second album !!!!!!!!)
Wahoo! Marcel, keep the updates coming to the 'Jam. A new Lemur Voice album would be really high on my want list. Is there a working title for the disc yet?
>Well, we did write seven songs now and we are >making the eight right now, so when that is done I guess we have enough >songs to fill our second CD, the songs are quite different from our first >release "Insights", it is heavier (definately !!!!, more chunky guitarparts >!!!!), more experimental, more emotional and a lot more experimental, so be >warned........
And forewarned is forearmed :) Seriously, I'll bet a lot of 'Jammers were as happy to see this as I was. Eight songs...please tell me that one of 'em's a kickass instrumental like "Akasha Chronicles" from the first album....
And you can add all the crunchy guitar parts you want, but make sure that Franck isn't buried in the mix. One of the things that make "Insights" a great album is prominent keyboard parts; a lot of prog bands just tend to mix them way down, or something. Keep the keys up front!
New FW, new 'tage, new Magellan, new DT, new Eldritch....new Lemur Voice? '97's a great year to be a prog fan.
Cheers, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 22:56:44 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: lines in the sand Message-ID: <3421E9EB.29679F71@caribe.net>
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
this song rules so much it hurts.. doug pinnick sounds incredible.. at least the contraste between labrie and him.. and ..whoa ..the song has changed a bit from the fix shows as well... as i was saying.. anna lee and hollow years are great.. HY is beautiful
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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:07:09 -0400 From: Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>, stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu Subject: DT on the Radio - Keep it up!!! Message-ID: <3421FA6D.5E20BEAF@snet.net>
I am hearing alot of news about getting Dream Theater on the Radio. Lets not stop. Here is the response I jsut got from my Radio Statiosn here in CT
> > thanks for the recent email regarding D.T..... > > ...we're starting to play the cut more and more and possibly > will put it in regular rotation... > > ...thanks for listening to 107wccc. >
Anyways, please anyone with some spare time, send them a request at mailto:fmamwccc@aol.com. And Connecticut Area Jammers - please give the station request line a call at 523-WCCC.
Also, dont forget to go to Nicole Stachowicz McWatters Page (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039/radio.html) and start E-mailing those radio stations.
On September 23rd - we should start trying to get DT some exposure on the late shows - any ideas, organizers, etc. . . .
Also, dont forget that Dream Theater will be releasing more than one single, so lets not get complacent after the 23rd. I know you will have the album in the CD player, so why should you try to get Dream Theater played on the Radio? - Simple, to encourage Radio/Music Industry/ etc.. to support this type of music. I hate to hear about bands as good as Fates Warning playing in Shithole Bars to crowds of 50-100 people. How much longer do you think they will stay together and make music if the market stays this way???? Then, all of us will be bitching about how there are no good bands anymore.
Also, it is important that this album sells well, so that the record company will have incentive to get Dream Theater back in the studio for Future albums, and incentive to put out LIVE CD's and Videos.
Lets keep it up, starting now - get off your a** (actually stay on it if you are at your keyboard) and lets start requesting BMS. (And dont forget to get you non-internet friends involved, too)
Michael Pomerleau
E-mail: (Home) michael_pomerleau@SNET.NET OR mpomerle@ct1.nai.net (Work) michael_pomerleau@adc.com
Visit My Home Page at http://w3.nai.net/~mpomerle
Who knows where the Cold Wind Blows... I ask my friends, but nobody knows... WHITESNAKE . . . 'Love ain't no Stranger'
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:05:28 +0000 From: "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: SNES/Genesis Message-ID: <199709190403.XAA12050@Walden.MO.NET>
> Also, the decision is _really_ near final to offer the SNES CD, Genesis > CD, and so forth, as mentioned on the page. This is a blast... just ask > the guys who've tried my "betas" of these CDs... Dale Newberry, Vince > LuPone, and ~eckie. I'll vouch for this. It rocks. Total fun game play :).
Dale R. Newberry
P.S. Someone else may have asked, too, but I know I asked a couple times about Queensryche Unplugged :). "People will watch anything, as long as it's dumb." -Beavis "There's a fine line between stupid and clever." -David St. Hubbins
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:19:44 +0000 From: "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dickinson Message-ID: <199709190418.XAA14509@Walden.MO.NET>
Oh man, I just saw Bruce Dickinson last night in St. Louis. Talk about a kick ass show. The new stuff is real good, the Maiden tunes rocked all ass, and the guys are cool (we got to meet them afterward. Bruce is pretty damn short :). If anyone was there, I was the guy wearing the white Red Dwarf T-Shirt or the black long-sleeve Living Sacrifice shirt (it got cold a few times in there :).
Dale R. Newberry "People will watch anything, as long as it's dumb." -Beavis "There's a fine line between stupid and clever." -David St. Hubbins
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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 01:12:51 -0400 (EDT) From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CD for sale Yes- Keys To Ascension Message-ID: <970919011016_1042453698@emout19.mail.aol.com>
what i have is the BMG version.. i dont know what the regular version comes with but this has 2cd's, a booklet inside as well as a small poster like thing with the cover's art on it and pictures of the band members who performed on the CD... its been opened but thats all. please email me if you are interested
~Lisa dragynlmc3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:04:34 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@asu.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Emulators Message-ID: <342215F2.9B9430D5@asu.edu>
OOOOoh baby these things kick ass, 'n it's nice to have a backup on CD juss in case some shit happens to my hard drive....
But then again, you can always download the emulators straight from the Internet.
~Eckie plays some more Excitebike, then The Tick, then Mario All Stars, and Castlevania Bloodlines....(homework, what's that?)
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Date: 19 Sep 97 09:06:38 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi> To: Ytse Jam (Dream Theater Mailing List) <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Artension keyboardist Message-ID: <00218CEC0300000101003B4555042E@mlespser1001.metsaliitto.fi>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids....
Someone said: >> unbelieveable. I was listening to the CD and wonder why DT passed on >> Jordan as keyboardist, he can play faster than any musician I ever heard.
To which Rick Barkhouse added: >Well, I wouldn't say THAT, have you ever heard Jens Johannsen, or the guy >from Artension (can't even BEGIN to spell HIS name, thanks Mape!)
That would be Vitalij Kuprij. The two of you who care, find out all about Artension at http://www2.shrapnelrecords.com/Shrapnel/SH-1102.htm.
_Mape_
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