YTSEJAM digest 2984

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Sep 18 1997 - 20:34:33 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 2984

    Today's Topics:

      1) Yeahhh! FALLING INTO INFINITY is here!!!!!!!!!!!
     by "Francesco" <amendo@tno.it>
      2) Just Let Me Breed :)
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
      3) Re: DT turned down Rudess?
     by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
      4) Lemur Voice update, The gathering
     by Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
      5) Re: Rudess/Morgenstein
     by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
      6) Morganstein
     by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
      7) Set list request...
     by Shane Liebling <jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
      8) Indian Homeopathic remedies
     by "R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
      9) Rush question
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
     10) Lifting shadows off a Lurker
     by michael.bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
     11) Acoustic Spirits!
     by "David Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
     12) ATTN: Dave (a UK jammer)
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
     13) Re: APSOG boot.....great idea!
     by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
     14) More CDs available, etc.
     by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
     15) UNCLASSIFIED:-AUSTRALIAN FII Release Date ?
     by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
     16) UNCLASSIFIED:-New Savatage, Rush 'Mirrors' and other CD bootlegs
     by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
     17) Jordan Rudess
     by Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
     18) Anna Lee and HolloW years
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:42:27 +0000
    From: "Francesco" <amendo@tno.it>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Yeahhh! FALLING INTO INFINITY is here!!!!!!!!!!!
    Message-ID: <199709181535.RAA42878@sirio.tno.it>

    Hi guys,
    I bought few minutes ago a copy of FII just released today here in
    Italy!! :)
    The artwork is nice, but the greetings are practically absent..
    Anyway....

                                      THEY'RE BACK !

    :)

    Francesco

    http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lights/5169
    e-mail mailto:amendo@tno.it

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:51:44 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Just Let Me Breed :)
    Message-ID: <34214E10.5358@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

    Mark Metzger:

    > It may or may not be their best, but that discussion should be left for
    > at least a few months.

    Or perhaps left out altogher? :)

    > this is a GREAT new CD !!

    "The best" is not necessary. "Great" is both necessary and sufficient.
    It appears we have met those criteria.

    Now it's time to ROCK!!!!!!!!

    Brandon Vaughn:

    > Or better yet, how about being the first prog group to introduce the
    > belch and fart as part of the prog arsenal?

    Too late! Zappa already beat 'em to it, along with a buffet of other
    interesting sounds :)

    > I'll be first in line; how about you?

    Quit fucking cutting in line, asshole!

    :)

    I was watching Fantastic Futures last night on The Learning Channel. The
    subject matter was about Robots and specifically Robot Domination. In
    the show, they gave sort of an historical account of movies devoted to
    robots and how they are going to take over the world :) The interesting
    thing I noticed was a movie done in 1926 called METROPROLIS!!!! Now I
    have to go find this to see if Metropolis is the name of a robot in it,
    which would, of course, add new meaning to "Metropolis watches and
    thoughtfully smiles".....

    Buh bye :),

    JP

    *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
    | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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            "Drifting with the current
             This stream of life flows on" -- John Myung

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:49:42 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: DT turned down Rudess?
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970918124735.8474A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>

    Maybe I was wrong. Maybe Rudis turned DT down. Dont' remember. As far as
    seeing ELP live, I did. Unbelieveable. Kicked my ass. These two men make
    me feel so unworthy of the keyboard. Anyway, if you don't like the music
    of Rudis/Morganstein simply because of lack of vocals, bear in mind that
    ELP has some songs that don't have vocals either. Either way, both are
    awesome. Wish there were more bands like those two.

    Reach Damon Fibraio at damon@shell.monmouth.com
    keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality
    Deviant of Reality
    All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars
    All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars.
    Neil Peart of Rush

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:10:38
    From: Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Lemur Voice update, The gathering
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19970918191038.083f75a2@pop3.cobweb.nl>

    Hi Jammers,

    Long time ago !!!! I've been off the web for a while, I was really busy
    lately, but I am back now, The homepage is also updated with some things,
    nothing special, but we are making arrangements for our forthcoming release
    (second album !!!!!!!!) Well, we did write seven songs now and we are
    making the eight right now, so when that is done I guess we have enough
    songs to fill our second CD, the songs are quite different from our first
    release "Insights", it is heavier (definately !!!!, more chunky guitarparts
    !!!!), more experimental, more emotional and a lot more experimental, so be
    warned........

    Anyway, we have six titles so far, they are:

    - Lethe's Bowl
    - Parvedian Trust
    - Childhood Facade
    - Divided
    - When The Cradle Cries
    - Universal Roots

    Anyway, we are planning new gigs at the moment, we haven't played for a few
    months because of the arrangements for the second CD, we did record a
    demotape in our rehearsalroom for Magna Carta, but now we are planning more
    dates, for now just one is for sure and arranged:

    October 4th: Beneden, Sliedrecht (The Netherlands)

    About The gathering, it is a great band, they aren't progressive at all,
    their music is really simple, but it are great songs and the female singer
    (ANNEKE !!!!!!!!!!) is awesome, her voice is just a gift from heaven, it
    takes you away into infinity, just listen to their latest release
    "Nighttime Birds", it is almost like Pink Floyd, but still more beautiful,
    the female voice is just............., well, no words can describe this,
    just listen for yourselves, The musicians aren't really technical wonders,
    espcially not the guitarists, the only thing they do is playing chunky
    powercords and open chords, but it just fits the music perfectly.

    Anyway, at Friday, september 19th they are playing in my hometown, SITTARD
    in Fenix, I will be there, that's for sure.....

    Well, nice to talk to you all after this long, just keep on watching our
    page for more news, we will keep you informed.

    Take Care,

    Marcel

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:03:16 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
    To: Rick Barkhouse <015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca>
    Subject: Re: Rudess/Morgenstein
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970918130007.8474D-100000@shell.monmouth.com>

    Two things. I never heard of that Vince guy, but i have a tape copy of
    the Transformers soundtrack and I think that the instrumental stuff is
    incredible. The rest of it is retro 80s, which is fine if you are into
    that stuff, which I am a little, but some of it is outright cheesey for
    its day. Never heard of any of the guys you mentioned, except Cairo,
    which I own on CD. I would definitely love some tapes. anyone want to
    educate me? The jam has done a lot of that for me in the two years I have
    been here on and off. Hell, I would've never heard of any Magna Carta
    stuff if it weren't for the Jam, and doing a prog rock show, but all my
    prog interest outside of Rush came from this list. This list even forced
    me to rediscover Yes and genesis, whcih only sent me down the spiral into
    prog rock even more. so, I ask again. Anybody with tapes of
    keyboard-heavy prog music that wouldn't mind making a copy for a
    keyboardist who would love to hear more Rudis/Morganstein type material
    can email me. I have nothing to trade unltess you want a copy of the RM
    CD. Well, maybe we can talk about things, I'd have to look through my CDs
    again.

    Reach Damon Fibraio at damon@shell.monmouth.com
    keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality
    Deviant of Reality
    All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars
    All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars.
    Neil Peart of Rush

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:06:01 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Morganstein
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970918130529.8474E-100000@shell.monmouth.com>

    To whomever it was who asked, he is the winger guy. Somebody sent me
    mail, but I torched it by accident.

    Reach Damon Fibraio at damon@shell.monmouth.com
    keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality
    Deviant of Reality
    All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars
    All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars.
    Neil Peart of Rush

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:32:20 -0700
    From: Shane Liebling <jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Set list request...
    Message-ID: <v03007801b04715e882ae@[169.229.75.60]>

    Hey all, I was wondering if someone could either send me or repost the set
    list(s) for the Brazilian shows. Thanks a bunch and take it easy.

            -Shane

    ____________________________________________________________________________
    Shane Liebling R "All of us get lost in the darkness,
    jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu U dreamers learn to steer by the stars
    CAA Layman and Ytsejammer S All of us do time in the gutter,
    Member of a.m.m.o. since 1997 H dreamers turn to look at the cars."
    -------------------------------- The Sites ---------------------------------
    The Short Me - http://www.hotwired.com/members/profile/demolitionman/
    The Long Me - http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi
    Cal's RC5 Mirror Site - http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi/rc5/
    Deutch Hall's Webpage - http://www.reshall.berkeley.edu/unit1/deutsch/
    ---------------------------------- by Me -----------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:14:50 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
    To: Clit-see Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Indian Homeopathic remedies
    Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96a.970918105852.36660A-100000@dante16.u.washington.edu>

    I'm way behind on jams, but I just had to reply to Al's post from last
    Friday:

    > - This Indian guy at the convenience store (surprise) noticed
    > that I was getting the cough/throat drops, and suggested the
    > following:
    > - take a cigarette, take the tobacco out of
    > of the cigarette, put it in hot water, mix
    > it up, and drink it........needless to say,
    > I just took his word for it....
    >

    NEVER LISTEN TO AN INDIAN PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO HOME CURES.
    I'm dead serious. I've have gotten some of the most fucked up advice
    from relatives. I was India about seven years ago, and I'm very myopic.
    At the time, I wore very thick glasses. One of my relatives told me that
    the way I can cure my near sightedness was to sit and stare at trees
    for 2 hours every morning for a year while eating radishes continuosly.
    I'm not kidding.

    Another one told me that not taking a dump within an hour of waking up
    in the morning can lead to chronic depression.

    Another one told me to get rid of a pimple by STARING AT IT IN A MIRROR
    WITHOUT BLINKING FOR 10 MINUTES EVERY MORNING.

    I'm fairly certain that Partha has had similar experiences. Just grin
    and bear the advice when it comes to you. I'm going to India in
    December and I expect to once again be bombarded by ridiculous advice
    like this.

    Wishing you good health,

    Hassana Krishnaswami Rahul Ananda: spod@u.washington.edu
                                       thehand@dreamt.org

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:50:08 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Rush question
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970918144310.22782C-100000@thunder>

    OK Jammers... I have a question...

    I was sitting around eating lunch with some other grad students/friends,
    and one of the girls there is from Toronto.. so I shyly said.. "Ah.. the
    home of RUSH" (she smiled =) ). At any rate.. that spurred a conversation
    about RUSH, and another friend from Seattle (who only listenes to pop
    stuff) mentioned "rush.. yeah.. my soccer coach helped write a song for
    them. Some guy.. neil.. neill.. cant remember his last name,.. woudl ride
    his cycle to the soccer field and hang out with my coach.. peter talbot"
    This was back in 1980 when he was 8 or 9 years old.. and he also said that
    it never really meant anything since he doesnt know the music at all.

    I am, of course, slightly jealous at this. BUT this raised some questions
    in my own mind.

    Did Neil ever live in Seattle???!?!? Thats the part that surprised me the
    most.

    Help me out here =).

    Now all i have to do is get my friend to introduce me to his soccer coach
    =)

    Cheers!

    -ponte

    (ponte@essc.psu.edu)

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:38:53 -0400
    From: michael.bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Lifting shadows off a Lurker
    Message-ID: <199709181929.PAA05561@mail.trincoll.edu>

    Hey guys!

    I've been lurking for way too long, mostly because of school work. I have a
    question that may have been answered long ago, but here goes:

    What happened to Raise the Knife? Has it been renamed or scrapped? Thanks.

    -Mike

    P.S. -- Mike Pomerleau...if you see this, drop me a line, I lost your address.

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:44:17 -0500
    From: "David Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Acoustic Spirits!
    Message-ID: <19970918194641.AAA7456@hombre>

    YES! What a surprise! I just received my Acoustic Spirits CD in the mail
    today! I'm listening to it right now and the sound quality is *AWESOME*.
    The packaging is excellent, and those new edition Verbatim discs do look
    pretty slick. I can see why this one of Mike Bahr's favorite productions
    (if not the favorite).

    If you haven't ordered this CD yet, do it now, it's definitely worth it.

    D. Ryan Whitaker
    David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net
    http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:20:06 -0400
    From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: ATTN: Dave (a UK jammer)
    Message-ID: <199709182020.QAA11510@daffy.cs.wm.edu>

    Sorry for the clutter, folks...

    Dave: I just sent you a response to your question, deleted your mail, and
    then had my mail bounced back to me because I typed your address wrong. Oops.
    :) Mail me again, and I'll see if I can't figure out this whole Internet
    thing. :)
    -Chris

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:07:51 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: APSOG boot.....great idea!
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970918170704.6516B-100000@cyclone.weh.andrew.cmu.edu>

    On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 JE78674@ltu.edu wrote:

    >
    > I asked Mikey Bahr not too long ago if this was a project he had planned.
    > But seeing as how he was in California at the time, he missed the Arizona
    > show. I think that with his track record, someone could be real cool
    > and give him their copy of the show to make a bootleg with. Chances are,
    > it will turn out real good and the show WAS great! I just wish I was
    > a DAT-Recording guru, because the Detroit show was great for the fans and
    > the band...they played 4 encores! So, if anyone does have the show on
    > DAT, please take the time and consider the options for creating a boot
    > that I am sure everyone would appreciate.

    They're going to release a live video. No need for bootlegs.

    -maximilian

    Anton Max
    MadMax+@cmu.edu
    http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:23:05 -0700 (MST)
    From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: More CDs available, etc.
    Message-ID: <199709182123.OAA25880@goodnet.com>

            Hi all!

            Just a quick note to let you all know the page at:
            http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
            has been updated thoroughly. In addition to bringing you more up
    to speed on all DT-related issues, I now have available for replica the
    two best Rush boots ever, "Animated" and "Mirrors", among other new
    additions to the site (did anyone ask for Queensryche Unplugged? It's
    there, as "Silent Lucidity). In fact notwithstanding the numerous p/g and
    esl video copy boots, the archive of available Rush stuff is damn near
    complete, missing only stuff like Three Magicians, Live Hemispheres,
    Dances with the Moon, and Superconductor. For DT I have the Caught in
    Amsterdam show on DAT but not the actual boot CD of it, anyone have that?
    It's an unbelievable show with a LONG version of Metropolis played as a
    second encore, which has snippets of One and A Fortune In Lies in it,
    among other surprises. Sound is _fantastic_.

            And thanks to those who posted good deals on CDRs to the Jam...I'm
    heading over to those websites right now to see about placing an order. :)
    Also, the decision is _really_ near final to offer the SNES CD, Genesis
    CD, and so forth, as mentioned on the page. This is a blast... just ask
    the guys who've tried my "betas" of these CDs... Dale Newberry, Vince
    LuPone, and ~eckie.

            Take care all!

    - Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 07:57:24 +1000
    From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-AUSTRALIAN FII Release Date ?
    Message-ID: <4A256516.00782E66.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>

    For all the Aussies on the list, last night my mate who works at Utopia
    Records in Sydney, told me that it was highly likely that the release date
    for FII in Australia will be Tuesday 23rd, the same day as the US release,
    he wasn't 100% sure about tit though, guess we'll find out next week.

    gRaham_

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:32:31 +1000
    From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-New Savatage, Rush 'Mirrors' and other CD bootlegs
    Message-ID: <4A256516.0079F373.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>

    Hi All,
                  I picked up the Jap import of Savatage's 'The Wake Of
    Magellan' last night, this is only my first impressions of it.
    Firstly the cover artwork is stunning, the old Savatage name logo is gone,
    but the old logo wouldn't have fitted in with the rest of the cover
    concept. Second Jon Olivia is pictued with the band and credited as a band
    member again.
    The Music ?
    Let me first say that I am not a big fan of the band and I don't like any
    of the albums before Zak joined.
    But this album really impressed me from the first song to the last.
    Comparing it only to the other three albums that I have (EoT, HoF and DWD)
    I'd compare it to the style of DWD. It, to my ears it is more adventurous,
    dare I say it progressive than anything I have heard from them in the past,
    more piano/keyboards and some great singing and vocal melodies from Zak.
    BTW, there are no extra songs credited on the Jap import either.
    Rush 'Mirrors' boot, picked up the CD a couple of weeks ago from an online
    store in Singapore, great quality boot and the band's performance is superb
    too. It is one of the best boots I have ever heard from any band and I have
    heard quite a few.
    I don't have the URL handy, I will post that tonight from home, but they
    have a great selection of boots, including the Fix for 96 Providence show
    (12/12/96) I have ordered from them a couple of times, only 7 days to ship
    to me, although the last package arrived with every jewel case smashed.

    gRaham_

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:49:20 -0400
    From: Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Jordan Rudess
    Message-ID: <34230170.5D3D17A4@bu.edu>

    > Hey, I always thought that Rudess turned down DT in order to tour with
    > the Dixie Dregs. Not that it has any real importance right now. :)
    > Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    >
    Rudess turned DT down to play with the Dregs. To tell you how good he
    is, he did not have much time to rehearse with DT for the few shows he
    played, so he sight read all the keyboard parts on stage.

    Isaac

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:13:43 -0400
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Anna Lee and HolloW years
    Message-ID: <3421C3B7.A992F6AF@caribe.net>

    Ive just finished listening to both these songs on cd quality mp3.. 44hz
    and all..
    These songs are sooooooo great.. i dont know how people have been
    putting them down as cheesy.. ..ok anna lee has a bit cheesy
    part..but..they are really emotional driven..and beautiful..i loved em
    right frmo the start...
    im dloading LiTS mp3 as we speak... thanx to a friend of mine.. hehe

    --
    

    Carpe Diem...Seize the Day... Dream Theater: A Change of Seasons http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:progboy@mindless.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229

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