YTSEJAM digest 2986

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Sep 19 1997 - 13:11:41 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) FII lyrics on my page
     by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
      2) FII Japan release date...
     by "Randy Shewey" <randyshewey@classic.msn.com>
      3) NDTC
     by "Dave" <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
      4) Guitar effects on NM
     by Hans Petter Olsen <hans-petter.olsen@merkantildata.no>
      5) Promo Video...
     by djw_at_neon@smtpgate.walker.com
      6) A newly-converted dOOd speaks :)
     by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
      7) A Car and Tool and a few Artists...
     by Shane Liebling <jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
      8) R: YTSEJAM digest 2983
     by "Davide" <dada@iname.com>
      9) FAQ
     by "Benny Dell'Ariccia" <benny.da@flashnet.it>
     10) SNES cd
     by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
     11) DT in Rio.
     by rogerio@taurus.lcg.ufrj.br (Rogerio Pinheiro de Souza)
     12) TDOW
     by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
     13) DAT recorders
     by Joshua Malone <jmalone@mail.vt.edu>
     14) request for mp3s
     by Chris Daley <cdaley@gmu.edu>
     15) A good day indeed
     by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
     16) lines in the sand changes
     by Eric Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
     17) Re: The winger guy :)
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
     18) Re: Tool??
     by MrQ <mrq@mail.utexas.edu>
     19) Anybody check out levin's web site yet?
     by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
     20) Tool
     by Über Cabe <caber1@concentric.net>

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 01:45:55 -0500
    From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: FII lyrics on my page
    Message-ID: <34221FA3.2E74@auburn.net>

    Hey everyone! Thanks to a kind fellow 'jammer, the lyrics to the new
    songs are on my page at http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/newsongs.html

    The tape swap starts Tuesday, so if you want to participate, let me know
    as soon as possible!

    Take it easy, everyone,
    Mark

    -- 
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    * Mark Peters -- swifty@auburn.net -- Auburn University, Class of '99 *
    * Ytsejammer, tape trader at http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/index.html *
    * Progressive tape swap - http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/tapeswap.html *
    *                                                                     *
    * "When you look at some of Picasso's paintings, it makes you wonder  *
    *        what kind of women he visualized when he masturbated."       *
    *                           - George Carlin                           *
    ***********************************************************************
    

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 97 04:50:39 UT From: "Randy Shewey" <randyshewey@classic.msn.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FII Japan release date... Message-ID: <UPMAIL16.199709190648090578@classic.msn.com>

    For those who are intrested the info I got from Alta-Mira the japanese version of FII will be released on sep. 29th & they will have it a few days after. If you pre order from them before sep 20th you can get it for $26. I've delt with them in the past month & have had good service :)(got the their last copy of the Lie single Heh Heh!!!!!!!!!!!!). See Ya ! Randy Shewey

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:22:12 +0000 From: "Dave" <dhatlee@dhpc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC Message-ID: <199709190723.DAA19560@promail1.ee.net>

    NDTC:

    For any Ryche fans out there, I have finally finished SURGICAL STRIKE - http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/ well, for the most part. More will be added but the site is fully accessable now. I really lucked out with this because Michael Wilton saw my work and had me design an animated chrome TriRyche for his upcoming web site. I am stoked!

    SORTADTC: Just a few more days folx! I have not given in to any temptations to listen to the mp3 files or anything. I haven't heard one single song off the CD yet and I am anxiously awaiting my copy of FII from cdnow to arrive in the mail! It's been a long wait for this fix, and once again my girlfriend will be calling me "obsessive" as I fly down the road with new DT crankin on my CD player!!! WOOHOO!

    buster http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/ SURGICAL STRIKE http://users1.ee.net/buster/ WHEN DREAM AND DOOM UNITE Dave Hatlee - DH PC Service http://www.dhpc.com

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:41:29 +0200 From: Hans Petter Olsen <hans-petter.olsen@merkantildata.no> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Guitar effects on NM Message-ID: <c=NO%a=TELEMAX%p=MERKANTILDATA%l=STA-01-MSG-970919074129Z-2156@osl-01-msg.merkantildata.com>

    Does anybody know what equip JP uses to get that special flange/phase sound in the intro on New Millennium? I really love this song and was supprised to hear that moody theme in the middle, with that wah thing and that sexy bass. Boy it's gonna be a looong weekend.... Later jamanoids... >

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 97 08:36:09 -0800 From: djw_at_neon@smtpgate.walker.com To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Promo Video... Message-ID: <9709198746.AA874655171@smtpgate.walker.com>

    Hi, Anyone know what single is to be releases and if there's gonna be a promo video to go along with it? Short but sweet, Dave (a UK Jammer).

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 01:05:50 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A newly-converted dOOd speaks :) Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970919010424.00835a10@postoffice.syspac.com>

    I've been able to turn a buddy of mine onto my (basically our style :) type of music. Here's what he had to say about some new purchases:

    ~Vince

    >Return-Path: <mattr1@earthlink.net> >Return-Path: <mattr1@earthlink.net> >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:44:17 -0700 >From: Matt Riley <mattr1@earthlink.net> >To: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> >Subject: Re: CDs. > >>>So what did ya think of the CDs?! I want full reviews dude!!! > >Well to put it in a number of words, THEY TOTALLY KICKED MY ASS!!. > >I just got one question, on the Images and Words album, at the end of >the first track, it seems to just stop. No fade away, or musical >completion. Just music then nothing. I think that the Awake album is >better. It seems to be a bit longer, but I haven't checked on it. I know >there's more instrumentals than on Images and Words. > > >As for Megadeth, their new album definitely has a bit of a "newer" sound >to it. Not necessarily dramatically different as opposed to Countdown, >just a bit faster and louder. However Countdown has tracks on it that >are more familiar to me, that Cryptic Writings. At any rate, both albums >rock out! Track 5 (Desenegrators?), I think, on Cryptic Writings is the >type of song you listen to if you're just about to go out and kick >someone's ass into tomorrow! Fast, loud, and total kick ass!! > >I really haven't listened to the Metallica very much, but I can tell >that it is definitely an older genre of Metallica. Sounds cool, but most >of my time has been on DT and MD. > >MR >

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 01:14:11 -0700 From: Shane Liebling <jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A Car and Tool and a few Artists... Message-ID: <v03007800b047e168594d@[169.229.75.60]>

    Hey there, although my day was not monumental it started out pretty well. I am walking along the street and I hear the opening of 6:00 blaring from a person's car. I give chase. I catch up and shout out "Dream Theater." The guy is like "yeah!!!"

    Now onto the Tool comment. I have only heard Aenimea (I own it) and I must say I do like it, but there is only so much I can take (about the first 6 songs) in one sitting just because it is so emotional. I like it once in a while.

    Now the artists... Okay I just stopped by my favorite music store (Rasputin's) and checked out their Prog section (yes they have one but it is all serious OLD SCHOOL stuff) so I was wondering people's opinions on these bands/artists...

    Doctor Nervous Renaissance Peter Hammil Hawkwind Gong Mike Oldfield

    Thanks alot y'all and be ready for the big bad 23rd.

    -Shane

    ____________________________________________________________________________ Shane Liebling R "All of us get lost in the darkness, jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu U dreamers learn to steer by the stars CAA Layman and Ytsejammer S All of us do time in the gutter, Member of a.m.m.o. since 1997 H dreamers turn to look at the cars." -------------------------------- The Sites --------------------------------- The Short Me - http://www.hotwired.com/members/profile/demolitionman/ The Long Me - http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi Cal's RC5 Mirror Site - http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi/rc5/ Deutch Hall's Webpage - http://www.reshall.berkeley.edu/unit1/deutsch/ ---------------------------------- by Me -----------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:27:43 +0200 From: "Davide" <dada@iname.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: R: YTSEJAM digest 2983 Message-ID: <199709191241.OAA15107@iol-mail2.iol.it>

    This is probably old, but I just got my hands on the wonderful DT- boot "Uncovered", and I'm wondering what the hell is happening around 00:40 of Red Hill Mining Town, when the song is broken off. LaBrie is saying: "Uh, I don't think so... No, no, no. (...) Okay, you can go whenever you want... (...) We just found out about this gig about four hours ago, so..." What's the argument here? Does anybody know?

    He was talking about the fact the song wasn't played in the right way. So they stopped and the restarted it correctly. He justifies the fact telling that they haven't time to prepair the gig and that anyone could go away whenever he wanted if they didn't play in a good way....

    The other thing is, who wrote and originally recorded RHMT?

    Was written and performed by U2 surelly. 99% it was on the Jashua Tree.

    TYVM!Kyrre

    Davide

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    Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:46:42 +0200 From: "Benny Dell'Ariccia" <benny.da@flashnet.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FAQ Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19960919144642.007a2c20@flashnet.it>

    Hi Jammers.....How can i receive the faq?

    tnx

    Love is the dance of eternity.

    UIN.#2616436 "Ayreon" undernet:#italia

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:23:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: SNES cd Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970919091804.26015A-100000@bdmserver>

    Mike wrote: >Also, the decision is _really_ near final to offer the SNES CD, Genesis >CD, and so forth, as mentioned on the page. This is a blast... just ask >the guys who've tried my "betas" of these CDs... Dale Newberry, Vince >LuPone, and ~eckie.

    Dubbing software is a lot more risky then dubbing music. If the SPA (I think that's the letters) find out about this you could be screwed. I'd definitely be careful before dubbing software. I know the SNES isn't really software but probably falls in that category. The SPA could easily get a warrant come in and take all your computer equipment. Be careful.

    What Genesis cd are you talking about here, Sega Genesis?

    |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |===================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | New Dream Theater-September 23, 1997 *** Washington Redskins 2-1 | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files *** Go Orioles | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 97 10:29:36 EST From: rogerio@taurus.lcg.ufrj.br (Rogerio Pinheiro de Souza) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in Rio. Message-ID: <9709191329.AA01426@lcg.ufrj.br>

    Hi Jammers,

    I'm sending this message late, but as I didn't read anything about DT show in Rio de Janeiro, I'm here. Well, first, I'm very happy because I got my copy of ACOS signed by them on saturday. The show was on last monday. As in Sao Paulo, Dr. Sin opened with a great show. And the song was really good. In the middle of the show, they invited Jonatan Mover, the Satriani's drummer. Really great!!

    So, more 30 minutes, and ACOS began to play. I think that the set was the same of Sao Paulo. LaBrie was wearing a Brazil soccer team t-shirt and Petrucci a t-shirt of the most popular soccer team here in Brazil (and the best too):Flamengo :))) They played new songs like Peruvian Skies and Burning My Soul, a version slower of Caught in a Web and a electric version (and very beautiful) of Silent Man.

    They played YtseJam and during the drum solo, Portnoy lost one of the sticks. Of course he was kidding!! The finished with Metropolis and after the solo, they stopped to celebrate five years that a guy (I don't remember his name) was with them. So, Portnoy started to sing Discotheque of U2! Then, they returned to Metropolis and finished with a small part of One of Metallica and the beginning of A Fortune of Lies!!

    Well, excuse please of my horrible english. I hope you understand something.

    Regards, Rogerio P. de Souza

    **************************************************************** Home Page: http://www.lcg.ufrj.br/~rogerio Musical Page: http://www.lcg.ufrj.br/~rogerio/musica.html ****************************************************************

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:29:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: TDOW Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970919092549.26015B-100000@bdmserver>

    Got my TDOW cd yesterday. Wow! This is Mike's best DT boot in awhile. For an audience boot this is incredible. The best audience boot I've ever heard. The additional A Vision with Charlie is incredible as well. I was like that's Charlie???? He sounds great on that track...

    It's too bad that Mike and Brian Cox had the falling out. These two working together could produce more excellent cds like this so other jammers could enjoy these shows as well.

    Another great job Mike!!!!!!

    |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |===================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | New Dream Theater-September 23, 1997 *** Washington Redskins 2-1 | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files *** Go Orioles | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:50:16 -0400 From: Joshua Malone <jmalone@mail.vt.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DAT recorders Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970919095015.006a24cc@mail.vt.edu>

    Sorry to bug the whole jam with this but I would like lots of feedback - personally, of course. I've finally decided I need to get my hands on a portable DAT recorder. What I'd like to know is: a) where can I get one for the best price; and b) can a portable unit take the torture of being used as a home player on a regular basis, or will its heads wear out like a video camcorder? If anyone has any info, especially on b, please mail me privately. Thanks

    -Josh

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:55:20 -0400 From: Chris Daley <cdaley@gmu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: request for mp3s Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970919095517.007c8c60@mason.gmu.edu>

    Hey yall I was really wanting to get "Caught in Alice's Nine Inch Tool Garden" and "Take Away My Pain" (live) in mp3 format...I heard people were mirroring that site on the web that only a few people could connect to, but I was unsuccessful in finding any. I went to this guy's (JB <beamup@vt.edu>) ftp site, although it appears to have went down on me and hasn't gotten back up :>. If anybody can help me out by pointing me in a direction that I can go I would be greatly appreciated. If you don't want to "clutter the jam", you can write me privately, but do as you wish. I was really wantin' to get these two mp3s. Thank you.

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:10:24 -0500 From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A good day indeed Message-ID: <19970919140558028.AAA194@cmustard.vonl.com>

    Ahoy,

    What?! New Lemur Voice?! I'm there! Sounds like it's going to be good -

    Marcel (shredster of Lemur Voice) wrote: >Well, we did write seven songs now and we are >making the eight right now, so when that is done I guess we have enough >songs to fill our second CD, the songs are quite different from our first >release "Insights", it is heavier (definately !!!!, more chunky guitarparts >!!!!), more experimental, more emotional and a lot more experimental, so be >warned........

    Count me in for that one! And my Seven Wonders CD is on its way! And the new DT is out Tuesday! (no smirking, those of you who already have it :) ) And it sounds like Vanden Plas is definately worth a listen after hearing good reviews on the jam and from Bernd Basmer. Damn, I'm going to be the happiest broke person at SFA - · • Colonel Mustard • ·

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:25:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: lines in the sand changes Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.3.95.970919112039.-504767D-100000@edesobe.resnet.emory.edu>

    After listening to the new version of Lines in Sand, I just had to post this. Keeping in mind I made over 60 tapes for the fix shows (so my opinion may be somewhat skewed) the new version took out the two best parts of the song. The first after Derek's solo in the beginning they jump right into the musical chorus as opposed the longer version which played a lot better in terms of emotion. Second, after the jazz prog sections when James begin to sing again they took the soaring lyrical part out after he sings, "the mysteries we nurture our the fabrics of our lives" and jump back to the lyrical chorus. ON the fix tape my God James gives me goose bumps everytime with the emotion and range of that part. Too bad. Stil the song rocks, and is one Dt's best. As much as Derek bugs me, have to give him total appreciation for this one. Take the time.

    -Eric

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 15:59:48 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The winger guy :) Message-ID: <3422A174.6E9D@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

    Damon wrote:

    > To whomever it was who asked, he is the winger guy. Somebody sent me > mail, but I torched it by accident.

    Prior to the Winger days, Rod Morgenstein was in the Dixie Dregs, a most excellent band!

    Isaac added:

    > Rudess turned DT down to play with the Dregs. To tell you how good he > is, he did not have much time to rehearse with DT for the few shows he > played, so he sight read all the keyboard parts on stage.

    When I saw them do a clinic up in Danvers, MASS, Rod mentioned brining Rudess along to hang with Kip and jam to some of the new album that Kip will be coming out with soon. He expected Jordan to know a little of the material. Jordan not only learned every song off the disc, he learned all the voices (guitar,bass,keys..think he left the drums alone for ROd :)

    Kip was sufficiently blown away! Perhaps they'll be opening for Kip on the new tour? Or just outright playing with them.. I'll be there, either way!!!

    Regards,

    Jon *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*

    "Drifting with the current This stream of life flows on" -- John Myung

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:17:28 -0500 From: MrQ <mrq@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tool?? Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970919111727.0068b0b0@mail.utexas.edu>

    My suggestion. Buy Aenima and make your own observation. Personally, I love their last two albums(they actually have three) with Aenima being a little better than Undertow. As for the lyrics, they are very dark and angry for the most part. It's hard to make out some of the lyrics because of the singer's vocal style but you can find the lyrics to all of their albums on the web. Just try them out - they are definitely different.

    -"Q"

    THE VOID - http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/club/4605

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:45:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Anybody check out levin's web site yet? Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970919124343.14733A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>

    http://www.papabear.com/tlev.htm has some really cool info. For those who are too lazy to log out of email and fire up the browser, Mr. Levin spoke of going into the studio with JP and MP of DT and being joined by none other than Jordan Rudis. Wow, this sounds so cool, I am there when that comes out. Put me down for a CD now.

    Reach Damon Fibraio at damon@shell.monmouth.com keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality Deviant of Reality All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars. Neil Peart of Rush

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    Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:14:34 -0700 From: Über Cabe <caber1@concentric.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tool Message-ID: <3422CF19.712D@concentric.net>

    Hi everyone,

    > From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> > Subject: Tool??

    > I *know* that Tool has been discussed a lot here, but I didn't > care for those reviews until I saw their video "Aenima". It is really > strange, but very interesting. And not very heavy (like I like :-) ). So, > I'd like to know what you can say about this weird band and what I should > try to hear first.

    What!?! You didn't get the album after /I/ recommended it? How could you? ;-)

    > I've seen some reviews from "common" people on some webpages. > Comments ranging from "They're *THE* greatest band in the F@CKIN' world" > to "Please, do yourself a favour and don't buy their trendy album". I must > say that I got a little confused. Could you clear this situation to me, > please? Any comments are welcome.

    Well, the first guy is like how we feel about DT. And the second guy is like how we feel about DT. :) The second guy is probably talking about how metal should be underground, and since Tool isn't underground now, they're metal, and if they not metal, don't buy it. [alert run on alert] The last album Ænima is great to me.

    > The only things that I know is that they have 2 albums and that > everyone seems to find their songs strange, with unusual lyrics (are the > lyrics interesting?)

    They also have an EP. The lyrics are great through the album. The song you mentioned before, is about how the singer wants the earth(mother) to earthquake-LA-into-the-ocean(wash it all away). There's even a song about selling out called "Hooker with a Penis." :)

    Über Cabe caber1@concentric.net

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