YTSEJAM Digest 3043
Today's Topics:
1) Anybody heard of Heathen?
by MTeiper@aol.com
2) RE: Petrucci in Guitar World????
by ~ME~ <breuric@acenet.com.au>
3) Re: what the hell i'm supose to write here?
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
4) LTL: AIDS?, Solid/Sullied?
by MTeiper@aol.com
5) Re: This is what I *really* meant about the analylisation thang.
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
6) Re: Hair's to you, Merlo
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
7) <just testing
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
8) DT and grammar
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
9) Faq recommendation, Jazzy feel, ACOS, Derek's sound
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
10) DT tour dates for Minneapolis/Omaha
by Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu>
11) !!!!!!VERY VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!
by Kathy <purpledn@sccoast.net>
12) New Contest!
by "The Artist Formerly Known As woot" <woot@crypted.com>
13) DT in ME
by "The Artist Formerly Known As woot" <woot@crypted.com>
14) Hey!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3039
by Chris Ptacek <someone@prognosis.com>
16) Glam stuff, APSOG and ACOS single songs
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
17) Re: Christopher Merlo
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:34:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Anybody heard of Heathen?
Message-ID: <970929173156_1630970470@emout13.mail.aol.com>
Hey folx -
Just a quick question... has anyone heard of the 80's speed/thrash metal
band, Heathen? Well, if so, I am REALLY looking for a copy of their album
"Breaking the Silence" on CD. Can anyone help out??
Private e-mail, please. Thanks!!!
- Matt T.
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:01:07 +1000
From: ~ME~ <breuric@acenet.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Petrucci in Guitar World????
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970930080107.006c8f64@acenet.com.au>
>Someone mentioned something Petrucci said in Guitar World about how
>Metropolis 2 will be _the_ song for those who miss the more technical stuff
>on their new album. Something about it being a crazy song.
>
>I forgot who posted this, but does anybody know which issue this is in? I
>subscribe to this magazine, and I haven't seen anything like this in it. I
>think someone made this up. Would whoever posted this information please
>mention what issue that was (I'm not saying that your lying...I just
>haven't seen this at all). Please let me know, because I'm thinking this
>was some kind of joke that nobody caught.
Brandon (and everyone else),
below is my original post - which was just relaying what I'd seen posted
elsewhere (Perpetual Motion message board) I do not know if it is truth or
fiction - thou I see no reason why the guy would be lying,
sorry for any confusion or misleadingness (?),
-zajk
>This was posted recently on the Perpetual Motion board.
>
>>Posted by Patrick Fillion on September 25, 1997 at 14:56:18:
>>
>>I have read 2 articles this week, one with James Labrie and the other
with John Petrucci. The first was in BWBK, in this one
>>James said that METROPOLIS 2 is a pretty intense song and that the true
are gonna FREAK when they will hear this song.
>>
>>The second article was in GUITAR WORLD, the guy said to John :"do you
think your fan are gonna be disapointed because
>>the new album is a litle bit less progressive", John said "for those
people we have a song called METROPOLIS PART 2 and
>>this is the most INSANE song we have ever writen, this is a 25 min song
and we will record this one as soon as we can".
>>
>>Wow, i can't wait!!!
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:10:05 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: what the hell i'm supose to write here?
Message-ID: <199709292310.TAA19753@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> few things:
> 1) about my writing: i'm from israel!! from where the hell i'm supose
> to know how to write english??? i just know how to talk from TV!
Well, that would explain it, huh? A daily dose... :)
Meant in jest, of course,
-d
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:18:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LTL: AIDS?, Solid/Sullied?
Message-ID: <970929174240_-262002057@emout01.mail.aol.com>
Hey -
A few Jams ago, Mike Bahr referred to LTL being about AIDS? I haven't heard
this one yet... is it broken down in the FAQ? If so, my bad... sorry. If
not, I was wondering if anyone at one point had broken it down line by line
like that dude did with YNM being about commercialism.
Also... recently I read about the last line of PMU being "... too sullied
flesh...". I always thought, and I *thought* that the FAQ had it as "...too
solid flesh...". Does anyone know which is correct? What I'm wondering is
that at some point WAY back, when the question was first asked of the guys,
they said the line, and it was misheard by the listener. Meaning, maybe the
band explained that it was "sullied", but the listener heard "solid" (an easy
mistake, to be sure), and it just grew from there. Just wondering if anyone
knows for sure...
Gotta go eat... Bye!
- Matt T.
NP: With Myself... ;-)
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:13 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: This is what I *really* meant about the analylisation thang.
Message-ID: <199709292252.SAA19666@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> What I *really* mean with all this Jason, is that I don't think it's good
> to pick songs a part like some people do. Then the feeling DT is trying to
> give us, is lost.
I hate to butt in here, but I'd have to disagree with you here. Obviously, I
can't tell you what the feeling is that the band was trying to convey.
However, the feeling I often get from DT is that they've taken their
ever-so-diverse influences and crafted something new from them which, while it
is unmistakably DT, still sounds like Rush and Yes and Metallica and Sting and
<insert more bands here>. That feeling sits really well with me, because
they're not afraid to say, "Hey. It's all been done before, just not in this
combination."
Just my 2% of a dollar.
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:48:42 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Hair's to you, Merlo
Message-ID: <199709292248.SAA19634@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> Uh, OK, but can we fuck with you about your spelling, then? Aqkward???
> Gramatically??? :^) I know - typos, not really mistakes . . .
Thank you for calling me on that one *again*, Larry. :)
> BTW, Chris, a friend of mine just saw your sig and swears he recognizes it
> from another list - the Z-car list? A porno list, prehaps?
I don't remember who I stole it from, but I remember making sure that it
wasn't someone that was on any mailing lists or newsgroups I frequent.
> p.p.s. So is it really "sullied", like somebody wrote, or is it "solid"?
Hmm. Anyone got a copy of Hamlet lying around?
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:01:24 -0500 (EST)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: <just testing
Message-ID: <01IO8F2VUNVM9LVJ26@alma.edu>
Sorry, just seeing if this comes back to me, I'm not getting any one elses
posts
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:51:12 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT and grammar
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970930065112Z-22020@ms.Kallback.com>
What is this? The Schoolhouse Rock list? :)
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:48:10 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Faq recommendation, Jazzy feel, ACOS, Derek's sound
Message-ID: <19970929185054.AAA14510@sni.pananet.com>
>Let me know if you have any additions, corrections, or suggestions! And
by
>all means, let me know if you are mirroring the FAQ and you're not listed
in
>the mirror sites.
Well, if we get a lot of newbies, I"m expecting a lot of them to ask "Who's
John E. Petrucci?". I think a part explaining what TAMP is about, and its
relation to AD and (possibly) Scarred would be a good idea.
>What's the deal with society when2 young boys want to wear makeup and look
>like girls. ASnd the thing is young girls apparently love them.
Ever heard of Poison? :)
> For starters, I feel that this album has shown a lot of jazz feel to it.
Agreed. But aside from the sound, there are also parts (the guitar solo for
ToT comes to mind), where instead of just repeating the same riff, the keep
on laying down different chords and modulating...something more common to
jazz.
>jazzy approach and feel to the album has a great deal to do with the
>education of DT's members at Berkeley (a school that is almost totally
ahem. that's 'Berklee'. And according to Ytsejam law #165, paragraph 3, you
must include the phrase "no fucking guarantee" in every post mentioning
Berklee.
>2) if someone wants realy bad the tabs for ACOS i allready know 3
>parts,and with a little will power i'll transcript the rest....
Apparently you missed all of Brandon's updates. It is already transcribed,
in the process of being checked, and eventually will be sent to Petrucci
himself for the official seal of approval.
About Derek's sound... From the beginning of LITS, I'm guessing that his
Trinity (or Prophecy, whatever he uses) allows him to morph between two
patches? That would explain how he switches between the moog-type sound and
the guitar-sound (he even got that muted chunk in there. Woo!). And then,
is his normal solo sound kind of in the borderline between the 2 sounds?
I'm just following what my ears tell me, and wanted one of you keyboard
meisters to explain it.
BTW, around :50 on LITS...total Vai! Derek kicks ass!!
later,
Ernesto
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 22:50:06 -0700
From: Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT tour dates for Minneapolis/Omaha
Message-ID: <3430930E.2C43@sunflowr.usd.edu>
a quote from some wrestler that my little bro
always sais, "The best there ever was, the best there is, and the best
that
will ever be" im reffering to DT HEHEHEHE
When you're a ytsejammer, you're a ytsejammer...4 LIFE!!!!
Because Dream Theater is just TOOOOOO SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!
On a serious note, has DT announced US tour dates? If so, when is the
Minneapolis or Omaha date? I'm going, no matter what it takes.
By the way, the new album is great!!! Peruvian Skies is my favorite
track.
Gotta run.
Steve Thum
sthum@sundance.usd.edu
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:26:51 +0000
From: Kathy <purpledn@sccoast.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: !!!!!!VERY VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!
Message-ID: <3430474B.7E06@sccoast.net>
Ok so I have never put a word in on the jam but I have someting VERY
IMPORTANT to say READ ALL of this. If you want DT to get more radio play
and have a number one spot on the charts you will have to call in and
request ONE song like "Burning My Soul" No other songs by them. I was
told this by a friend of mine that is a DJ. She explained to me that if
you request any other songs by them you can actually make them knock one
of their own songs down the charts and prevent at least one of the songs
from making it to No.1 Sound strange? Well put it this way, if they get
one of their songs to No.2 and another one of their songs makes it but
knocks the other song to No.3 then they have a slimmer chance at making
the No.2 one to No.1 You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure
this one out fellas. I know you all want DT to get as much radio play as
possible and hear as many songs as possible but the coorperate jerk offs
look at one thing and one thing only and that is how many times you
request ONE song. IT IS POSSIBLE to make them get a variety of DT on the
radio AFTER this is accomplished. So PLEASE keep this in mind when you
call your local radio station. The info was given to me by WKZQ@aol.com
if you would like to ask them for yourself. And please if anyone already
knew this then forgive me for the post, I just felt it was my duty as a
fan to tell it like it is. Sad but true folks this is the way it is.
Kathy
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:12:40 -0600
From: "The Artist Formerly Known As woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Contest!
Message-ID: <199709300317.VAA12764@mailmx2.micron.net>
I'm sure skadz will love this one. Who has spent the most money for FII so
far?
My total is up to 85 and change, plus the 25 for the tab book when it comes
out.
It rolls down stairs
It comes not in pairs
Runs over your neighbor's foot.
It's great for a snack
And fits on your back
It's woot! woot! woot!
woot™ from Blammo!®
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:10:57 -0600
From: "The Artist Formerly Known As woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT in ME
Message-ID: <199709300315.VAA12682@mailmx2.micron.net>
The DT article in Metal Edge is very cool. However, what's up with JP's
Jaimz Hetfield look? He even has the wide stance and growling expression
to go with his JH facial hair. Also, what happened to MP's short hair with
skunk stripes? I still haven't seen it. He must have done it right before
the album came out.
It rolls down stairs
It comes not in pairs
Runs over your neighbor's foot.
It's great for a snack
And fits on your back
It's woot! woot! woot!
woot™ from Blammo!®
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:18:57 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hey!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970930001411.3632C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Hi, you'll all...
You know, today, exactly after a week FII came out, is Alexandre's
Birthday. I know that maybe he is not reading the 'jam as he used to
(since you know, the volume was quite high until yesterday or so), but he
feels lonely... :-)
So, let's send him some e-mails and make his birthday a lot
happier. His e-mail address is: <lymber@linux.ime.usp.br>.
Anyone here knows of a prog "Happy Birthday" tune that is not in
some weird time signature and/or that has a 10min solo? :-)
[]s with some insane thoughts, Roger... :-)
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:55:50 -0500 From: Chris Ptacek <someone@prognosis.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3039 Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970930005550.00e98d20@pop.enteract.com>
>From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> >Subject: Re: Quick Questions > > >> Also, what is the quote from Hamlet at the end of Pull me Under? > >Are you new? Argh. See the .sig. > >And if I see one more stupid-ass question, or one more "unsubscribe me" >message, I'm going postal. *Everyone* that does stupid shit gets a copy of >the FAQ.
Stupid question? Maybe over-asked question, but don't you think that's a bit harsh? And PLEASE don't mail the FAQ out to anyone who "does stupid shit" because pretty soon, I'll have more copies than you do... I may have to usurp your throne!
>From: JB <beamup@vt.edu> >Subject: music analysis and m(o)ore > >>Please don't analyze the music - enjoy it! > >(BTW whoever posted that frame by frame analysis of New Millenium a >while back... I listened to some of the things you were referencing, and It >helped me appreciate the song ALL THE MORE!!!)
Umm... there must be a mistake... did I actually post something USEFUL to the jam by mistake? I hope it doesn't become a trend. :) Actually, I'm planning on doing a guide for at least one more song, and I would love it if some other people would, so we could have a full album listening guide eventually. Maybe we'd even get in the FAQ... but anyways, if anyone likes this idea, please, two things: 1). call the song before you post, so we don't get 3-4 listening guides for the same song; 2). for songs like LitS and ToT (long tunes) please cut it up into the appropriate number of posts so we don't all go blind (No offense, Damon, you weenie smacker :)
A couple issues:
Vibrato: I'm not going to claim that I know much about correct vocal technique, but I notice that for many people vibrato is used to cover the fact that they have trouble hitting the note. It seems to me (in my bit o' vocalist experience) that it's a LOT harder to hit some notes (usually higher register) and NOT use vibrato, whereas the opposite is true with others (lower register). My GF has explained similar things to me from her ear training and theory classes... so I would be interested in the proof Steve Z had backing his claim about vibrato being healthy and no vibrato being unhealthy (or whatever it said). For curiosity, not argument. I can't quite see how one is good for your voice, and one is bad...
Production: I am liking the production now, a LOT... I like the changes in overall sound between songs. This is, BTW, my new favorite Dream Theater album.
Arguments: I will do my part to avoid getting into these drawn out arguments on the jam, if they're bugging anyone. I know some of you enjoy reading them, but I don't want anyone crying because mean old Ptacek cluttered up their jam. Likewise, if you disagree with things that I'm saying, consider private e-mail (if it's not an appropriate topic to debate on the jam).
Anyone else think that the coolest guitar line on the whole damn cd is in LitS at about 8:32 (right after "once wee-ad mitt we're dah yin.") How about ToT for vocals (3:08) "I may have wasted all those years, they're not worth their time in tears" That whole verse just sounds beyond ideal-perfect to me. I LOVE the what the whole band sounds there! /me notices a lot of layered parts on the vocals and guitars (sometimes like 3-4 and maybe more guitars going on)... this is going to be an interesting tour!
Take Care
- CWP
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:33:33 -0400 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Glam stuff, APSOG and ACOS single songs Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970929183333.00698248@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Robert quoth:
>Maybe it's just me, but I always thought Stryper was talented. Sure they >had the image thing going big time back in the day, and they had that >typical 80's sound, but I love those solos and grooves :) I may only be >19, but I am truly a child of the 80's "glam" bands. So shoot me if >Poison was my first tape. I still cling to my roots, I guess.
Nothing wrong with glam if you're in the mood for it. A lot of glam bands were pretty much all flash and no substance, but a few had some true gems buried amidst all the glitter (Vito Bratta from White Lion, Warren DeMartini from Ratt, George Lynch and Don Dokken from Dokken, Mic Michaeli, Kee Marcello and Joey Tempest from Europe, Reb Beach from Winger, Blas Elias from Slaughter, and Paul Gilbert and Billy Sheehan from Mr. Big to name a few).
Besides, the last Stryper album "Against the Law" dropped the yellow-and-black threads, trashed the glam image, and pushed the Christian message so far into the background it wasn't much more than a memory. That album rocks, and rocks hard. Try picking it up and see if you aren't surprised by the crunch and tasteful musicianship. Similar things happened with Van Halen and Def Leppard, except of course that they're still around and the other glam bands I mentioned are gone. (Well, Dokken isn't, but they're fading).
"Q" inquired:
>Well, why don't you think of this. Does ACOS sound like ONE song? No, it >sounds like 7 small songs. Does "Supper's Ready" sound like ONE song? >Does "2112" sound like ONE song?
Er, yes, they do sound like one song to me (excepting "Supper's Ready," which I'm not familiar with). That's one of the things I love about ACOS -- leave out any part of the song and it doesn't sound right. The individual parts cohere so well that I just look up after the last notes of The Crimson Sunset and -- look at that! 23 minutes have gone by. I don't like to listen to it if I don't have time to hear the whole thing. So too with 2112 and APSOG.
The exception to my "epic song" listening is Shadow Gallery's "Ghostship," which, although an excellent song, doesn't seem to flow quite so well as the other songs I mentioned. I have less of a problem cutting that one off in the middle or hearing certain parts of it only. Anybody else want to explain to me what I'm missing with this one?
As for the "indices" with APSOG: p'raps they were simply put there so people would know EXACTLY where each part started. Remember the time we spent arguing about where each part of ACOS started till D-Man had pity on us and put it in the FAQ?
Cheers, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:08:57 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Christopher Merlo Message-ID: <199709292308.TAA19735@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> > I am sorry for insulting your precious FAQ file
Hey, it's not my FAQ file. It's *our* FAQ file. Yeah, I'm the guy that runs emacs and fiddles with it, but the FAQ belongs to the whole list. And, as such, it exists to serve the list by cutting down on bandwidth.
> but I am in school, and the > Web has been down for about a week now. All I have is email. Thus, I wasn't > able to check for the Hamlet quote in your little FAQ file.
I hate to sound like you're a moron, but since you have e-mail, you obviously received the "Welcome to Ytsejam" letter. And, as such, I'm sure you read the part that tells you how to retrieve the FAQ by e-mail. (It's right there near the part that tells you that you should read the FAQ before posting, if I remember correctly.)
> I recieved an > answer from a kind soul in here who didn't have a problem answering my > question.
I didn't have a problem answering your question, either. I answered it in section 6.8 of the FAQ.
> By the way, I don't believe that my question took up precious > space
It did. Some people pay by the byte.
> as I contributed a web site for Clockwork if anybody was interested.
And this relates to "Pull Me Under" in what way?
> I understand that you are maintaining a FAQ file, but personally, I don't > care.
Then stop posting to the list.
> If I had the time to go on the web, I would, but I really don't care > to look for an answer to something that can easily be answered over this.
What can be answered here, what should be answered here, and what will be answered here are not always the same thing. As a matter of fact, what can be answered here is generally a much larger set of questions than the other two combined.
> It > is not worth your time or mine to argue over something as insignificant and > petty as this seems to be.
It is absolutely worth my time to argue about this, for a couple of reasons. First, I have spent a great deal of time maintaining this file for the benefit of everyone, and I refuse to have some selfish fuck like yourself whine about not having web access when he's too lazy to retrieve the FAQ. Secondly, you attacked me personally when I called you on a rules violation.
It is clearly not worth *your* time, however, since 1) you're wrong, 2) you're being a dick, and 3) you don't seem to care. So drop it.
> I will go on with my life, and you will go on w/ > yours. By the way, I don't appreciate having my intelligence insulted. I am > a straight A student at Saint Joseph's University
And I'm a Ph.D. candidate in Computer Science at the College of William and Mary. Wanna have a pissing contest? This is not the forum.
By the way, Mr. 4.0, I wasn't attacking your intelligence. I clearly remember referring to a "stupid ass question," not a "stupid ass person." I don't attack people personally (much), unless provoked. You stepped.
> and I don't wish to be > deemed a "stupid ass" because I have a question.
Then read the FAQ. That's why it's there.
> Thank you. Let's just drop it now.
There would be nothing to drop had you followed the rules of the list to begin with. However, if you insist on attacking me personally, while still blatantly ignoring the rules of the list, I will not be able to "just drop it."
-Chris
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