YTSEJAM Digest 3045
Today's Topics:
1) Sounds like...
by "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
2) Get FII In The U.K. N-O-W !
by "Adrian Holmes GBC3F73F@IBMMAIL" <gbc3f73f@ibmmail.com>
3) Petrucci in Guitar World! / Hidden message in Anna Lee?
by Brandon Vaughn <vaughn_b@chipola.cc.fl.us>
4) Greetings!
by Kssa Lajos <lajos_x_kosa@amoco.com>
5) wanted:label addresses, weird songs, stuph for sale, Q for finnjammahs...
by op777@freenet.hut.fi (Olli-Pekka Komonen)
6) First reported FII-related injury
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
7) The great FAQ debate
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
8) Ytsejam Fantasy Hockey League
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
9) Re: Merry Axemas/Vai Box set
by Kyrre Trohjell <Kyrre.Trohjell@hd.uib.no>
10) hollow years
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3037
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
12) Hair, hair, everywhere (No not a message about glam)
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
13) FII production
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3037
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
15) I love this game :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
16) the FAQ
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
17) D.T in MILAN(Italy) on 2th of Oct. 1997
by "Luca Regalia" <regal@mbox.vol.it>
18) sullied/solid/etc
by Dominor252@aol.com
19) Re: Grammatical message...
by Andrew Berry <andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk>
20) Re: Glam stuff, APSOG and ACOS single songs
by The Phoenix <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
21) Lines in the Sand circa the year 8:32
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:00:14 +0100
From: "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
To: "The Ytsejam Crowd" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Sounds like...
Message-ID: <9709301205.AA16811@server3.software-ag.de>
Hi all
last night I was listening to 'Falling Into Infinity' (I had nothing better
to do). My favourite track (apart from the awful guest appearance
of Doug Pillock) 'Lines In The Sand' was playing, when suddenly
around the 6 minute 30 second mark I thought "I know this from
somewhere else". Then it struck me - 'Do You Feel Like We Do'
from the 70s album 'Frampton Comes Alive'. Anybody else hear
this? But then I guess I'm not entitled to say things like this, since I
don't play an instrument myself, and only other musicians are
qualified to voice an opinion about music...
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Vanden Plas - The God Thing
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:06:41 EDT
From: "Adrian Holmes GBC3F73F@IBMMAIL" <gbc3f73f@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Get FII In The U.K. N-O-W !
Message-ID: <199709301307.GAA10064@odin.ax.com>
I ordered FII from a mail order company called CDX based in Cardiff. I
ordered it on Monday morning (22/9) and received it Friday morning
(26/9). The cost was only 13:99 UKPounds INCLUDING postage ! - probably
less than you're going to pay in HMV or Virgin for the UK version.
CDX phone no. is 01222 843604 and web page is http://www.cdx.co.uk/
Remember, order before lunchtime Monday - get it on Friday ! Tell them I
sent you ... I MIGHT get a discount (there again I might not !).
So all you UK Jammers get FII NOW and join the debate !
Hope this is helpful. Ad.
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:21:35 -0700
From: Brandon Vaughn <vaughn_b@chipola.cc.fl.us>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Petrucci in Guitar World! / Hidden message in Anna Lee?
Message-ID: <01IO8YTM3K4M000A0G@WIZARD.FIRN.EDU>
Sorry about all the confusion regarding Petrucci in Guitar World. It just
seemed I had gotten the most recent issue with Keith Richards of the
Rolling Stones on the cover. I know Petrucci wasn't in that one. But I
just got the issue with Petrucci in it. Does kind of shed some light on
the whole album, but I think this is one of the shortest interviews I've
ever seen in Guitar World.
I'm glad to see that he is coming back in a regular column. Thought I
would have to let my subscription go with all the "wonderful" music they've
been printing since Petrucci left.
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On a different note, I was listening to Anna Lee the other day (which is an
awesome song IMO). You can hear someone breathing at the beginning of the
song and other strange noises (as someone has already brought up on the
Jam). At the end of the song, it sounds like someone is typing on a
typewriter. I started thinking that maybe this was a guy lamenting over
someone named Anna Lee. He sits down at a typewriter to express his
feelings. He sighs, then begins. The whole song is him pouring out his
feelings on a typewriter about Anna Lee. The song finishes with him
typing. Does anyone else hear these sounds? At first I thought it was
strange that those breath sounds were at the beginning, because one time it
sounds too distracting like they meant for people to hear it. Also, the
beginning sounds very airy, like no noise reduction. Again, it seems like
they are trying to create a mood. I'd be interested in what others think
about the meaning of the song.
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:45:06 -0700
From: Kssa Lajos <lajos_x_kosa@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Greetings!
Message-ID: <199709301345.AA05328@interlock.amoco.com>
Hi All!
I am new at this list, and I would like to send my best regards to all
DT-fans. Am I the only one from Hungary at this list?
L.
-- Windows is cool. It freezes all the time.phone: mobile: +36/30/578925 office: +36/96/502130 fax: office: +36/96/430183 private: mailto:kosal@syneco.hu office: mailto:lajos_x_kosa@amoco.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:49:19 +0300 (EET DST) From: op777@freenet.hut.fi (Olli-Pekka Komonen) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: wanted:label addresses, weird songs, stuph for sale, Q for finnjammahs... Message-ID: <199709301349.QAA21381@learnet.freenet.hut.fi>
rom the country that loves DT the most we bring you this message... :)
Could some kind souls here send me LOADS of record company addresses? A friend of mine has a cock/hard rock project an he is searhing for label... He asked me to get him addresses from net, so.. if you have konwledge of such things, please enlighten me via private e-mail.
I heard some rumours of DT playing live one song app. 87 minutes??? Ist his true? I myself find it VERY hard to believe... not that they couldn't write play such song.. but haven't seen it mentioned anywhere..
Also heard that C.O.C covers Megadeth's Reckoning Day.. anone got that as mp3?
Any finnjammers got Sunday's TOP40 on tape? I heard they had DT interview /me didn't hear it :(
ach ja... stuff for sale: Alice Cooper : It's Me CD-single, It's me, Poison (live), Sick Things (live) all tracks have Derek on kb, and on live tracks he does BGVs too
Antrahx European tour book 1987-88 (?), big multicolor photobook
Mail me if interested...
h yea.. got miself DT patch and DT-flag (which is HUGE) for $12... happy me :)
op777, da friend of Timo Tolkien
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:54:49 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: First reported FII-related injury Message-ID: <343104A9.446B@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Yes, folks, I'm sorry to have to admit, but there actually may be a problem with FII. You see, it goes like this:
You've just finished listening for the Nth time to it. You gently remove the sacred object from the player, gently place it back in the protective transport container, and proceed to move on to the next place you happen to be going.
The Problem: The music has stopped playing, but the dream is still in your head :) You catch yourself singing, humming, moving about in strange time signatures; and then, instead of paying attention to what you are supposed to, it happens:
YOU DROP THE CASE!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
So there you have it. FII is evil! FII is not conducive to proper thought patterns! FII causes attention deficit disorder! FII is bad fucking news!!! You can't claim it on your renter's insurance policy. I urge you all, do not recommend this disc to your friends. It's nothing but bad luck. DT doesn't need the success anyways, right?
You guys were right. I give :)
Jon -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
"Drifting with the current This stream of life flows on" -- John Myung
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:13:59 -0400 (EDT) From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: The great FAQ debate Message-ID: <01IO90DUCQG29ODU7Q@alma.edu>
To all those who would castrate that new guy for "wasting bandwidth" with his two line question about PMU, I'd just like to point out that since you've decided to make such a big deal about it, we've now had 6-7 long posts and one person who saw fit to repost the entire fucking welcome message back to the list (thanks, by the way), all in the name of saving precious bandwidth. Good thinking. -Clark
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:37:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ytsejam Fantasy Hockey League Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970930103454.9437B-100000@bdmserver>
I started up a fantasy hockey league at espn.com. So far we have 3 teams out of a possible 10.
to join got to http://espn.com and pay for a team. After you have a team, join the Ytsejam Fantasy Hockey League. The draft is slated for October 8, so you have until then to join up.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |===================================================================| | New Dream Theater-September 23, 1997 *** Washington Redskins 3-1 | | Congrats to the American League East Champion Baltimore Orioles!! | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:40:03 GMT+1 From: Kyrre Trohjell <Kyrre.Trohjell@hd.uib.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Merry Axemas/Vai Box set Message-ID: <38737352876@humanistisk.hd.uib.no>
Yeah! THE X-mas CD. I will play it alot at X-mas, plus DT's "The Night".
The 3rd CD off the Box set is a remastered release of the wonderful Alcatrazz album Disturbing the Peace. Steve wrote all the songs together with Graham, and it was produced by Eddie Kramer. I have it on vinyl, but I can't wait to get it on Poly Carbonate! :-)
BTW. FII just gets better and better!
Later!
Kyrre
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: hollow years Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970930112428.9437E-100000@bdmserver>
Someone (I think Mike Bahr) posted the DT newsgroup that DT would be releasing the video for Hollow Years to VH1. I don't think Mike posted this to the jam. Anyone know more info?
For some reason this song sticks in my head. Call it the vibrato... Can anyone explain what vibrato means?
|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |===================================================================| | New Dream Theater-September 23, 1997 *** Washington Redskins 3-1 | | Congrats to the American League East Champion Baltimore Orioles!! | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 10:54:33 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3037 Message-ID: <343120b56a7a062@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
I just wanted to say, since someone mentioned Metallica again in their thoughts on Peruvian Skies, that I don't hear the slightest resemblance to Bleeding Me by Metallica, a similarity which has been proposed by many.
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 11:13:54 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hair, hair, everywhere (No not a message about glam) Message-ID: <343125053498021@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> One correction though - HAIRS nor HAIR'S is correct in this > sentence." Hair Is" would be right. HAIR'S is a posessive as in > "My HAIR's oder is quite fragrant" > HAIRS is just plural of HAIR.
Wrong. =) Hair's can be a contraction for "Hair is," as well as being a possesive.
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 11:13:56 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FII production Message-ID: <343125083498023@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> I've seen plenty of people bashing this song and I ready can't understand > why.
I agree with you here...
> great job on the whole > thing. > This album is balanced sonically, much more so than AWAKE which one > could > barely hear the keys.
.but not here. I think overall it's a pretty good job (especially with the miking of the acoustic), but that there are many places where the drums could be brought back a little and the vocals and keyboards up. Just an opinion.
BTW, I don't hear any Metallica in BMS either, which someone mentioned. BTW, Hollow Years is the best ballad I've ever heard.
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:33:29 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3037 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970930132118.5842A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Brian Hayden wrote:
> I just wanted to say, since someone mentioned Metallica again in their > thoughts on Peruvian Skies, that I don't hear the slightest resemblance to > Bleeding Me by Metallica, a similarity which has been proposed by many.
The part that everyone is talking about is the part where James (Hetfield) sings:
"I'm digging my way I'm digging my way to something I'm digging my way to something better"
The Fix for '96 version of Peruvian Skies had a beginning much more similar to Bleeding me, but the current version has a beginning that still reminds me of Bleeding Me (and many other 'jammers)...
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:49:40 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I love this game :) Message-ID: <34312DA4.794B@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Dave, a UK jammer:
> This means that we can finally join in on this > crazy love/hate thing that's been happening.
Just to nitpick, I'm sure you meant:
love / crazy hate thing
:)
Regards,
Jon -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
"Drifting with the current This stream of life flows on" -- John Myung
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:35:50 -0400 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: the FAQ Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970930133550.009c3660@sol.eng.fore.com>
I thought we discussed this a couple months ago when the threads on this digest were all flames. We now have a lot of DTC to speak of, and we're still fighting about the fuckin FAQ. D-man, I can understand where you're coming from as far as the work involved with maintaining the FAQ, but you have to stop crucifying the people who ask a question that the FAQ covers. I think your job as the FAQ maintainer should include posting a particular section of the FAQ that's relevant to the question asked. Meaning, if someone asks what is the Hamlet quote in PMU, post section 6.8 of the FAQ, instead of using the same bandwidth arguing with the guy, and subsequently intimidating him never to post or even leave the list. I know that's not your problem, but I think we need to be a lot more lenient, especially when the question is DT related. You just flipped a nut over the Hamlet quote, but didn't say anything about the useless waste of bandwidth that went on about 3 months ago. WTF? If these types of questions are so offensive to you, I'll run the fucking FAQ.
KAI
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:36:59 +0100 From: "Luca Regalia" <regal@mbox.vol.it> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: D.T in MILAN(Italy) on 2th of Oct. 1997 Message-ID: <199709301746.KAA11925@odin.ax.com>
D.T will be in MILAN on 10/2/1997 at MARIPOSA CD store: address C.so di Porta Romana 117 at 5.00 P.M. .
Before at 4.00 P.M. they will be at ROCK FM 98.7 for an interview
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:55:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dominor252@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: sullied/solid/etc Message-ID: <970930135454_-927265805@emout18.mail.aol.com>
According to the Signet Classic edition of Hamlet, the correct phrase is:
"O that this too too sullied flesh would melt...."
too too? I wonder if that's a misprint in the book... so much for showing that I have an, ahem, reliable source... :)
--- Dominor252 --- If lobsters looked like puppies, people could never drop them in boiling water while they're still alive. But instead, they look like science fiction monsters, so it's OK. Restaurants that allow patrons to select live lobsters from a tank should be made to paint names on their shells: "Happy", "Baby Doll", "Junior." I defy anyone to drop a living thing called "Happy" in rapidly boiling water.
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:10:57 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Berry <andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Grammatical message... Message-ID: <Marcel-1.26-0930151057-b49evuQ@aberry.demon.co.uk>
In <URL:news:local.ytsejam> on Mon 29 Sep, Rogerio Brito wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Sep 1997, Brian Reeves wrote: > > > "My HAIR's oder is quite fragrant" > ^^^^ > > Wouldn't it be odor? :-)
No - we're talking about English so it would be "odour". ;-)
Cheers, -- +--Andrew Berry (webmaster, Metal Links) ----------------------------------+ | 4700 links to metal pages - http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk/metallinks/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Lies - and you fill their souls with all oppressions of this world, | | And all the glory you receive. So, what makes you supreme?" | +-------------------------------------------------- - Morbid Angel -------+
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:19:32 -0500 (CDT) From: The Phoenix <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Glam stuff, APSOG and ACOS single songs Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970930131138.18267B-100000@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
Phil said: > Nothing wrong with glam if you're in the mood for it. A lot of glam bands > were pretty much all flash and no substance, but a few had some true gems > buried amidst all the glitter (Vito Bratta from White Lion, Warren > DeMartini from Ratt, George Lynch and Don Dokken from Dokken, Mic Michaeli, > Kee Marcello and Joey Tempest from Europe, Reb Beach from Winger, Blas > Elias from Slaughter, and Paul Gilbert and Billy Sheehan from Mr. Big to > name a few). <snip> > surprised by the crunch and tasteful musicianship. Similar things happened > with Van Halen and Def Leppard, except of course that they're still around > and the other glam bands I mentioned are gone. (Well, Dokken isn't, but > they're fading).
Actually, Slaughter, and as far as I know, Mr. Big (could be wrong) are still together. At least, I saw Slaughter in concert over the summer with Alice Cooper, Warrant and Dokken. Just for your information, as if anyone wanted to know.
And was there a jam #3042? I'm pretty sure there was because I think I sent something. But I didn't get it, so could someone please forward it this way. Thanks!
-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | rctaylor@uiuc.edu Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:38:28 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lines in the Sand circa the year 8:32 Message-ID: <34314724.1CFB@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
One of the Chris's':
> Anyone else think that the coolest guitar line on the whole damn cd > is in LitS at about 8:32 (right after "once wee-ad mitt we're dah yin.")
Definitely! And the way the whole section just keeps building, is SUHWEET!
Oh yeah, and what MP is doing alongside him just reaffirms my belief that two people are just magic together. They must never be allowed to separate! They know each other much like twins do...
> How about ToT for vocals (3:08) "I may have wasted all those years, they're > not worth their time in tears" That whole verse just sounds beyond > ideal-perfect to me.
That part sucks! This is not opinion, but fact. Stop inflicting your opinion on the jam, Chris, OK?
hehehehe
That was sarcasm, folks!
You know, I went back to really listen to it as Chris and I have a lot of similar tastes in sound(s). I was listening to the the voice and what Myung is doing there at at the same time fits so well, as most of the other sounds appear to be in the upper frequencies, so the bass really shines bright there.
Euphoria out,
Jon
*------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
"Drifting with the current This stream of life flows on" -- John Myung
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