YTSEJAM Digest 3696
Today's Topics:
1) Hey, you know we're getting a little carried away here (Oohh....nice) EXCELLENT!!!!
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
2) The JPM100
by K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com>
3) Surfing with the Alien tab
by Clark Abel <99able@alma.edu>
4) Replies
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
5) Venue sizes
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
6) Dream Theater Tours
by Masterj444 <Masterj444@aol.com>
7) FAQing fools...
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
8) Attn: Mr. Matt (Genghis)
by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
9) 11/15/97 YES SHOW
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3695
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
11) Instrumental guitar album
by Christian Hallebro <hallebro@kuai.se>
12) Headlines
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
13) Re: Origins of heavy metal
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
14) Re: Portnoy/Tree
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
15) Re: KEVIN JOINS FATES WARNING????
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
16) New MFP, #Ytse quotes, Platypus cover, Waldrock, Discount
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
17) FTP site
by YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org>
18) APSoG Live
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
19) Re: KEVIN JOINS FATES WARNING????
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:51:37 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hey, you know we're getting a little carried away here (Oohh....nice) EXCELLENT!!!!
Message-ID: <35227EA9.63DE@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Guhday!
Just got back from an amazing place called Australia. Highly recommended
for re-adjusting the attitude back in line with reality :)
I understand that Mike and Derek have made their presents (double
entendre intended) on the jam? I haven't had time to look through the
150 digests that are backed up, to find out if this is true or not. I
hope this is true, cuz I have a few words for Mike :)
Well, having had LTE only since Sunday, it's probably a little premature
to judge the music without giving it a few more listens right? FUCK
THAT!!! This album rules NOW, not tomorrow after a few listens, not
projected into the future where I hope something better still comes out.
RIGHT FUCKING NOW!
What the fuck, it only took them a week to crank it out, why should it
take me a month to get a hard on over it?
Mike, you are quite ill!!! I only hope they never find a cure. Universal
Mind rips!! You could have named the album that, there is so much groove
happening in that song! You're flying across 6 or 7 hundred drums and
then you get into that offbeat shit, DAMN! The plan right now is to
record it to cassette, head into the Callahan Tunnel at peak rush hour
and blow the truck speakers out! :)
Latah,
Jon
-- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*------------------------------
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:53:02 -0500 (EST) From: K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The JPM100 Message-ID: <199804011753.MAA21949@camel7.mindspring.com>
Hi...
This is my oppinion on the JPM100... I've played a few so far here in Tampa at the music stores - I pretty much pick it up every time I go to a music store. I think the overall quality of the guitar is far better than the regular Ibanez stuff. The neck is thicker than your average RG, not thinner. Which suits me - my ideal guitar neck would have the thickness of a Les Paul 1960 type neck (sue me). The thicker neck also should provide much better intonation and you wouldn't have to deal with your tross rod every time the temperature changes a couple degrees (I had a handmade US Custom RG that I sold because the neck would move even during a rehearsal and the action would be varying all the time, not to mention the tuning).
Other than that, I think the guitar sounds great and if you're into that kind of sound, it IS worth it to check it out. I don't think any other Ibanez guitar plays as well or has a better quality finish, even the old ones I've played (I'm talking solidbodies though, for those looking for a reason to flame my ass ;D).
Latah,
Christian. ____ ____ ____ /\ /\ /\/\ /\ / / /\/ /\/ /\\ /\ /__/ / / \/ \__/ / / /___/ /___/ \\/ \____ /\ \ / / / \/ / / / / /\ \ // \ / / \ / / / / / / / / \___\// / / / / / /__ /__ / / / / / /\ / / / \ \ \ \ \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ / / \___\_\_\__\\__\__\___\_\___\_\___\_\__\__/ / \_________________________________________/ "I'm no fucking Buddhist, but this is enlightenment"-Bj=F6rk
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 13:47:36 -0800 From: Clark Abel <99able@alma.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: 99abel@alma.edu Subject: Surfing with the Alien tab Message-ID: <3522B5F8.587D@alma.edu>
If anyone has the tab book for Surfing with the Alien and would be willing to ASCII tab a very short section of one song and send it to me I would be eternally grateful... Thanks. -Clark
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:13:45 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Replies Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980401121121.11228A-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
A couple jams ago, I wrote:
> Mike Portnoy is not offically a member of the Ytsejam. He flamed > someone, *and* posted 4 times in one day. Now all he needs is a 15 line > .sig file.
I'm going to have to learn to check posts over before I hit send. That was supposed to be "is *now* officially a member..." I'm sure some of you figured it out, but for the rest, sorry for the confusion.
>> Tom Cox is the fucking idiot who forgot to look at his "Mail To:" line >> before he sent his message to his girlfriend, and instead, it winds up >> in the hands of the all to creative minds of the 'Jam... Will I ever >> live this down?!! :) > > I hope not. > > So, I'll see you at 8:00 tomorrow night, right Tommy? > -the hootenanny :)
Heh heh.. leave it to D-Man...
Ptacek wrote: > FOTOFLAME! Hehehe I HATE THAT! That's exactly the same thing as > having a poster of Cindy Crawford on your ceiling instead of a real > girlfriend. :)
Chris, since you already have the poster of Cindy Crawford, can I have your Ibanez?
> There is no way that the price difference is validated, > except for the fact that you're paying tribute to your guitar hero... > which is fine, but since I've got too damn many guitar heros, that's > not something I wanna do (unless it was the Jason Becker guitar that > was donated to Hard Rock... I'd give my left nad for that)
I don't think Hard Rock could justify having a display with your left nad.
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o / | Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design | | gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:00:18 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Venue sizes Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980401135647.26481A-100000@thunder>
I have mixed feelings on begger venue sizes.. I personally love seeing bands in plaecs of 1000-2000.. enough people to feel like a concert but still very intimate. But the shear joy of 20000-30000 people being introduced to our favourite band is a thought that makes me tingle! As long as DT still plays mid sized venues to to the die-hard fan base, I am all for larger venues. But I would love to see a full 3 hour DT set.
Either way... I will still go to any DT show I can!
-Ponte
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:06:56 EST From: Masterj444 <Masterj444@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater Tours Message-ID: <9a280988.35229051@aol.com>
So, everyone's complaining about when the last time Dream Theater stopped in Arizona or Texas? When was the last time they visited Louisiana? Or for that matter, anywhere close to Louisiana?
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 14:04:54 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FAQing fools... Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980401140453.006eec58@maila.wm.edu>
>>From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
Well, it has been two months since Chris Merlo was kind enough to bestow the honor of maintaining the FAQ upon me, and I have finally hammered out an update. There's a lot more in the works, so if you have any suggestions, mail me. In the meantime:
THE NEW, IMPROVED, DREAM THEATER FAQ:
http://www.prognosis.com/gabbo/dt/dtfaq.html
Enjoy... >>
Man, I just had to tell you, this was priceless. I loved it. It's too bad my roommate couldn't fully appreciate it.
Long live Ying Wee from China!!
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:12:21 -0600 From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert) To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Attn: Mr. Matt (Genghis) Message-ID: <01bd5da2$18ce4ba0$272227d1@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
Thorin tells me that you were asking about the next Ytsenight in Houston... I tried to email you and got a return stub.... mail me if you get this. Mark out.
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:16:43 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 11/15/97 YES SHOW Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.980401131449.128948A-100000@black.weeg.uiowa.edu>
If anyone has or has access to a DAT or any recording of the 11/15/97 YES show in Milwaukee PLEASE let my know as I'm deperately seeking a copy of my first experience w/ them. Thanx!
-Frantz-
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:19:54 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3695 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.980401131700.128948B-100000@black.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Regarding the bad seats deal and Ticketmaster. Maybe Mike could initiate an idea like what YES has been doing-having their homepage let hardcore fans order, pay, and choose location, for tix before they're available to the general public--for non-general admission shows of course. Just a thought.
-Frantz-
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 21:31:19 +0200 From: Christian Hallebro <hallebro@kuai.se> To: YTSEJAM digest <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Instrumental guitar album Message-ID: <35229605.EBABBE5@kuai.se>
Has anyone heard the Swedish guitarist Steven Anderson’s new album “missa magica”? What is it like? -- Christian Hallebro
Currently playing: Pink Floyd "Meddle"
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:35:02 EST From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Headlines Message-ID: <951deb4f.352296e8@aol.com>
<I think I can honestly say that this is THE greatest moment in ytsejam history. Mike Portnoy jumping in on a discussion?>
Glad I could contribute to your joy.
<I'll go see DT in any environment.
Richie>
As will I, with my tail firmly tucked between my cheeks. :~)
Kez
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 00:23:40 -0500 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Origins of heavy metal Message-ID: <3521CF5C.4B48F256@ic3.ithaca.edu>
>> Actually, the word "heavy metal" was first used by a >writer for the >> new > > York Times in the mid/late 1960's. He was writing a >review of Jimi
>> Hendrix's first album, and described his sound as >"heavy metal being
>> dropped from the sky." > > I always thought the term "Heavy Metal" came from the Steppenwolf song
> "Born to be Wild." There's the line that says "heavy metal thunder". > Of course that was refering to a motorcycle. Who knows? > > BH >
Actually, heavy metals are types of toxic waste which are usually produced as uneeded by products of various types of chemical experiments. (...never thought chemistry class could be applied on Ytsejam!)
Chris -- Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools.
- King Crimson
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 14:40:37 -0500 From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Portnoy/Tree Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980401144037.007e9c20@mindspring.com>
Tah-chek said: >> Anyways, >> I'm always friends with our fans, so don't take it personally.....in >> fact... if I look hard enough in my archieves, I bet I can find a >> copy of that Jaxx show.. : ) > > Could this dude be any cooler? Maybe I spoke too soon... maybe >he'll make the next post say "E-mail Mike Bahr, and he'll sell you a >copy." but I think that just rules.
I agree 100%. :) If someone were to come into possession of this tape from Mike I think it might be high time for another DT tape tree (the first DT-only tree since the '95 "Home for the Holidays" fiasco w/ Brian Cox). Not only is that show supposed to be one of their best in recent memory, but the source tape would come directly from a band member. All this would depend on Mike's blessing (and him actually releasing it), of course. If no one else _really_ wanted to do it, I'd be more than happy to run the analog side. I could run the digital, as well, but I only have cloning capability sometimes (when my friend w/ a DAT is in town), so that might not work well. Something to consider. Take care all...
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpineone(-at-)mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone/tapelist.html ^ Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:55:43 EST From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: KEVIN JOINS FATES WARNING???? Message-ID: <a2274df2.35229bc1@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-01 10:32:20 EST, you write:
<< I stopped by Dr mosh's site and i dont know if this was old news but it seems that Massacre records anounced that KevMo Joined Fates! whoa >>
WHAT??????
rocky
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:48:09 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New MFP, #Ytse quotes, Platypus cover, Waldrock, Discount Message-ID: <01BD5DB9.E76794A0@Spock.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Well, it's that time of the month again... Just uploaded the new "Most Frequent Poster" list to Itchy's Dream Theater Homepage at http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/indexdt.htm
If anyone's interested, Mike Portnoy made it to the 22nd spot on the list with 5 posts and a total of 202 lines. Also, Rogerio is no longer king of the MFP.
For those in need of a good laugh, check out the new batch of #Ytsejam quotes. _____
Eventhough the Platypus album won't be in the stores until sometime this summer, the artwork is already available on "Under A Cyber Moon" (thanks Derek!). Take a look :
http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
(this is NOT an April Fools joke) _____
Also, ticket sales for the Waldrock festival (Holland) will start THIS SATURDAY (and not next Saturday, as was announced last week). Check out "Under A Cyber Moon" for more information, including a list of other acts that have been confirmed (two new bands have just been added).
(this is NOT an April Fools joke) _____
If you're planning on ordering from CDNow, now would be the perfect time. They've extended their $10 discount (if you order over $20) for an extra week. The discount is available if you enter CDNow through a so called "Cosmic Credit" link, like the ones on "Under A Cyber Moon". You'll know you're getting the discount if you enter their site and see info about the discount at the top of the page. I also get 5 % in credit of whatever you spend through my links. Free CDs for Itchy. :))
http://cdnow.com/from=sr-223652 <go on, bookmark me!!!> ;-)
Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:35:39 -0500 From: YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FTP site Message-ID: <3522A51B.70EF1A03@DreamT.org>
> I'm looking for an MP3 of the TAMP demo (the one that's supposed to be so > much more emotion-filled than the one on FII). > I've tried at Dr. Mosh's site _many_ times but it never works, so does
> anybody know where else I can find it?
I put up an ftp site with a lot of DT stuff, some savatage, a track from LTE, and a new band called Meta Section......
come check it out and drop me a line to tell me how it is.....
~YtseJim YtseJim@DreamT.org
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:43:55 -0700 From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: APSoG Live Message-ID: <000301bd5dae$fd408a80$572746cf@sir.micron.net>
What follows is my review of the APSoG Live video so if you haven't seen it yet and don't want to be biased you can skip this.
Well, I'll just say that it's very cool and worth the 13 bucks, but not nearly as cool as it could have been.
It's in "music video" format, meaning most of it is just lip/instrument syncing. The audio and video were recorded over the whole tour, and the best parts were spliced together. They did a fine job, but it loses the whole live effect, especially since it's pretty obvious that all the crowd noise/applauding is fake and was added later.
I was very disappointed with the "conceptual" footage and felt they should have just left it a "Live" video. Most of it is just them playing/singing, but then every once in a while out of nowhere it'll show a tire washing ashore, or some dude sitting at his desk, or later on, walking around with the umbrella, or a camera pointed down at the freeway, along with shots of rain falling on road.
All in all, it's a good buy, but don't think of it as more than just another version of a really cool song or else you'll probably be disappointed.
Get high on ether when there's no one in the house. Pretend it's the big one the moment you pass out. That's just rehearsal, but it's comforting somehow To practice dying now.
woot™
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:44:24 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: KEVIN JOINS FATES WARNING???? Message-ID: <3522C348.F2581C47@caribe.net>
The iban wrote:
> In a message dated 98-04-01 10:32:20 EST, you write: > > << I stopped by Dr mosh's site and i dont know if this was old news but it > seems that Massacre records anounced that KevMo Joined Fates! > > whoa > >> > > WHAT?????? > > rocky
Hehe i calmed down now.. i believe it was just another april fool's message from Dr Mosh
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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