YTSEJAM Digest 3697
Today's Topics:
1) LTE
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
2) A couple more things
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
3) Coltrane
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
4) Re:DT icons
by "MIROEL SOARES ROSA" <miroel@uol.com.br>
5) Re: DT in Phoenix
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
6) No April Fool's today . . .
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
7) DT/Louisiana
by KyleTaraG <KyleTaraG@aol.com>
8) Re: Spice Theater World!
by Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
9) Re: KEVIN JOINS FATES WARNING????
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
10) New Additions
by Chris Dixon <cdixon@isminternet.com>
11) Blind Guardian
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
12) under a cybermoon
by Yvette Cooley <beanvet@accessus.net>
13) Re: New MFP, #Ytse quotes, Platypus cover, Waldrock, Discount
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
14) Re: Richie Rivera and DATs; LTE; Conversion stories
by Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
15)
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
16) Re: Coltrane
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
17) Music That Kicks Ass -- Screaming Headless Torsos
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
18) a screwed up message on my part
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
19) two things....
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:05:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LTE
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980401135848.27104A-100000@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
i just picked up the LTE album. Both of the small record stores
near my house had it, which was suprising. (probably to satisfy
the number of DT fans here at UCSB) Anyways, I haven't given
it a good listen yet, but my favorite song so far is
'Universal Mind'.
The liner notes are awesome, they tell about how the project
got started and the recording process. Portnoy mentions
Jens Johansson as one of the keyboard possibilities. I am
listening to him now on the newest STRATOVARIUS album 'Visions'.
He kicks ass, but I don't really see his style fitting into DT.
Go to hardradio at www.hardradio.com for a listen to LTE
FATES WARNING IN A WEEK AND A HALF!!!!!
laters
Conrad
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:58:37 -0700
From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: A couple more things
Message-ID: <000501bd5db9$554ec340$182746cf@sir.micron.net>
While I'm waiting for my backordered LTE to show up, I've also had the
pleasure of listening to BLS. It has some very cool stuff in it, but it
wasn't good enough to oust my Storyhill: Echoes which I've gotten as much
mileage from as any other 2 CDs I've ever had. The flamenco style guitar on
BLS is very cool, but for being an improv type thing, I think it's way too
mellow. I guess I was hoping for another LTE, and this ain't it. Levin is
great as usual, and Bozzio, while not my favorite drummer, does some very
interesting stuff. I'm sure it'll grow on me.
They say the oldest form of running away is leaving and moving from place to
place. I left my home to find myself, came back and looked in the mirror,
and there I was. Me and me. Face to face.
woot™
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:32:54 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Coltrane
Message-ID: <007f01bd5dc6$7ff96340$19c95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
>From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
>Subject: Re: coltrane
>
> I absolutely agree with this. Coltrane is just Coltrane. There
> have been and will be no others. He's one of the very few that
> when you say his name, that's it. Coltrane. That's the only
> way to describe it.
OK, what exactly is so godly about this Coltrane? I've never heard him
play. I'm just curious as to why everyone revers him so much - is he just
like a really good sax player, or is there some other external factor that
makes what he does even more special? Sorry for being so uncultured. :)
Moo.
--Dan McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:38:05 -0300 From: "MIROEL SOARES ROSA" <miroel@uol.com.br> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re:DT icons Message-ID: <01bd5dbe$d614d1e0$952ae0c8@uol.com.br.uol.com.br>
A lot of jams ago (although it was yesterday...), rjurado+AEA-eiger.com.ph wrote:
+AD4-Has anyone downloaded the DT icons from whatever site that was? Anyway, +AD4-I managed +AD4-to delete that jam and the URL. Could someone please send the URL to +AD4-me? +AD4-BTW, I was wondering. Is there a Majesty symbol that I could use as a +AD4-cursor.
I don't know if someone has already answered it privately, anyway, here's the URL: http://www.artnet.com.br/+AH4-studio/Dream+AF8-Theater+AF8-Falling+AF8-Into+AF8-Iconezip.htm
But don't expect rotating symbols or something like that. There are just some pictures that were scanned from the covers of DT albums, i.e., still pictures. And I still couldn't use them (I tried all possible ways but as it is a zip file, it has to have the apropriated viewer - ?which viewer?). If someone knows how to do it, please, e-mail me.
-Karol
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:50:27 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT in Phoenix Message-ID: <199804012249.OAA10621@odin.ax.com>
> Hey, are you guys up for another Ytsegathering at Hooters before the > show? Vince 'n I WILL BE THERE ALL DAY like the sick lunatic fans we are > when they do hit whatever venue. Somebody contact Nathan Bradley, I > wanna get thru security at this show and jam through JP's stacks.... Hehe, I'd make the trip from St. Louis to Phoenix again for this :).
Dale R. Newberry drnewb@spiff.net
"As miserable as life is, I hold it pretty precious." -Henry Rollins
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:07:04 -0500 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: No April Fool's today . . . Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980401180704.0076b4e8@postoffice.ptd.net>
Hehe, the "New FAQ" thang was pretty funny. Ying Wee. Hehe.
A clarification: I made an ass of myself by referring to JP's "Example *13*" of the Rock Discipline video, when in fact it was "Example *16*" that I was talking about. This is where he tries to incorporate the previous lesson into an actual solo. I thought this was pretty "jazzy", and I liked the background music (sampled as it was). Whatever.
I have LTE!!!! I've listened to it thrice so far, and I must say it is truly an amazing work of art, especially for something banged out in just a week!! Most of you that have this probably can take a pretty good guess at what my favorite track is. "State of Grace" is also just so beautiful . . . very moving, I hope to have it played at my funeral. :) [Brian is thinking happy thoughts today!] ;-D Anywayz, it's a great album, and I think that anyone who loves DT instrumentals should not hesitate to pick this one up.
Oh yeah, and Jordan Rudess is fucking amazing. I'm in awe.
Re: guitars: Should I decide not to buy an Ibanez (I *am* a JP slut, as well as a Vai slut), which of the "lesser known" guitar companies should I look into, for a sound like JP's? Should I decide not to get DiMarzio pickups, are Duncans really that much better? Any advice in regards to this would be appreciated.
[Brian can't complain about DT playing nowhere near him. They hit Philly a few months ago, and he had no way of getting there . . . :( ]
L8r, Brian
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:12:46 EST From: KyleTaraG <KyleTaraG@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT/Louisiana Message-ID: <64d9eb7.3522c9ef@aol.com>
<< So, everyone's complaining about when the last time Dream Theater stopped in Arizona or Texas? When was the last time they visited Louisiana? Or for that matter, anywhere close to Louisiana? >> According to Mike P., not since early on the I&W tour. Apparently the response was underwhelming and New Orleans in NOT really a rock town (after moving there I found that out for myself). I recently moved to L.A. though, so I'll have a better chance of seeing the guys now (and two Fates shows in a row coming up!). But it sounds like you jammers in the N.O./Texas area may get your wish soon (maybe....)
-Kyle
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:19:39 -0800 From: Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Spice Theater World! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980401151939.00923750@mail.legato.com>
First of all First Class job Itchy! I laughed and laughed!
But I have a question? So does this mean:
Scary Spice is Mike Portnoy ? Posh Spice is Derek Sherinian ? Ginger Spice is James LaBrie? Sporty Spice is John Petrucci? Baby Spice is John Myung?
Also, Pat "gabbo" Griffin: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for the lesson in your favorite Guitarist! I never knew you were a closet Ying Wee fan! your secret is out....you can come out of the closet now!
Toodles for now....back to the Shadows I go!
Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org
Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows
"Fly where your dreams go....." Cyrstalline Dreams - Shadow Gallery
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:30:34 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> Subject: Re: KEVIN JOINS FATES WARNING???? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980401182942.13177A-100000@tornado.ocis.temple.edu>
> I stopped by Dr mosh's site and i dont know if this was old news but it > seems that Massacre records anounced that KevMo Joined Fates!
This is not the case. I had a talk with Jim Pitulski (Kevin's manager) earlier today, and he has *not* joined Fates Warning in ANY form.
- mike.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:32:25 -0500 From: Chris Dixon <cdixon@isminternet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Additions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980401183225.008f9e50@mail.isminternet.com>
A few new additions to the Prog-Net web site:
- Just added "Prog CDs" page with search engine.
- Prog-Net has new reader-submitted prog CD reviews each day
- The Best Prog CD survey is underway.
- New announcements
Visit Prog-Net: http://www.isminternet.com/prognet/
Thanks!!
Chris Dixon cdixon@isminternet.com
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 19:04:05 -0500 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Blind Guardian Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980402000405.006f714c@pop.pipeline.com>
Ok, I thought it was time someone touted Blind Guardian, as I haven't seen their name here in awhile. If you thought "Imaginations from the Other Side" or "Somewhere Far Beyond" were great, but wondered if they could actually deliver live, the answer can be found by purchasing "Tokyo Tales," a live cd recorded during the "SFB" tour. I am pretty amazed listening to this. They do the studio work proud, yet make a new experience out of it at the same time. End of spooging sales job.
CD of the Day, besides "TT" - King Diamond - Voodoo
DTC
Oh yeah, how about everyone NOT replying to Portnoy's posts? If everyone makes a big deal out of every time he posts, and just says the same things over and over, it's gonna get old really quickly. A legitimate reply is cool, but this "I agree" shit blows.
Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
Detroit Red Wings 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions 39-20-15 vs. Colorado Avalanche
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:35:52 -0600 From: Yvette Cooley <beanvet@accessus.net> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: under a cybermoon Message-ID: <01BD5D9D.013D86E0@mtv-i-1-77.accessus.net>
That headline is just to cool,what a slam,great job guys.Happy april day.
James
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:13:59 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: New MFP, #Ytse quotes, Platypus cover, Waldrock, Discount Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980401210929.24221B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Mark Bredius wrote:
> If anyone's interested, Mike Portnoy made it to the 22nd > spot on the list with 5 posts and a total of 202 lines. > Also, Rogerio is no longer king of the MFP.
That's what I get for posting in three lists :-) and having the project of a compiler to complete. :-) Not that it is a honour to be the Most Frequent Poster.
In fact, you'll see my name on this list fewer and fewer times, as the semester goes on.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:39:26 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com> To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Richie Rivera and DATs; LTE; Conversion stories Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980401181958.25605A-100000@parka.winternet.com>
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Vincent G. LuPone wrote: > >P.S. Hey Mike, as long as you're going through your DATs...... > > <AOL> Me too! > <AOL> Me too! > <AOL> Me too! > <AOL> Me too! > <AOL> Me too!
Ummm... Is making fun of Mike's ISP the best way to get him to give you a tape? :-)
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My take on LTE... (I got it at the Fridley, MN Best Buy; one more BB without it's copy of LTE. My BB, in Roseville, didn't have a copy, so I had to travel a little further afield. Fair, since I'm moving to Fridley in a couple months... no more stupid apartment with noisy neighbors! A whole house all to myself!)
Anyway...
They did that in a _week?_ Cripes, we should get new DT albums 6 times a year, then! :) Of course, the whole thing blows me away. Kindred Spirits has to be my favorite track; melodic and beautiful, but intense and headbanging all at once. Awesome.
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Conversions....
I finally got my little brother (umm, younger bro, he's bigger 'n me) turned away from the dark side of Industrial and Grunge to the light of Progressive and Metal. While in town with two friends of his, he bought both I&W and Awake. And he's admitted that Marillion "isn't that bad." Hope!!!
I also loaned my Angra "Holy Land" to a coworker, who proclaimed it good. I warned him it was somewhat strange (Carolina IV more than the others); he reminded me that he's older than me and grew up on Pink Floyd & stuff; I mentioned that I had some stuff that could weird him out, such as a band that invented their own language to sing in (Magma). He brought back Holy Land today, and said he'd like to try Magma just for the hell of it...
--Jay "One-man Progressive crusade" Omega --NP: Garth Brooks - No Fences
--April Fool! NP: Liquid Tension Experiment
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:15:50 -0500 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980401201550.0079fd10@pop3.afn.org>
What it looks like I need is your ICQ number. Then I go to that ICQ page, put you in my contact list, and then I can click on your name in the list, when you're online, and we can talk.
-=- I know a monster when I see one in the mirror.
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Coltrane Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980401171540.16968A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, TheCowGod wrote:
> >OK, what exactly is so godly about this Coltrane? I've never heard him >play. I'm just curious as to why everyone revers him so much - is he just >like a really good sax player, or is there some other external factor that >makes what he does even more special? Sorry for being so uncultured. :) >Moo. >
He's overrated... ^_^ All he did was string together some really cliche riffs... ^_^ 'Course, he did it before all those clones showed up. ^_^
--Matt
--------------------------------------------------------------------- They Might Be Giants: REM with a sense of humor. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:37:19 -0500 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Music That Kicks Ass -- Screaming Headless Torsos Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980401203719.007978f0@pop3.afn.org>
The Screaming Headless Torsos are (or were ... I heard they broke up) a progressive funk band. Heavy funk, often with Frippian dissonance in the guitar lines and drum lines reminscent of Discipline-era Bruford, in that under all the crazy accents is a steady 4/4 groove on the bass drum. The vocals are rap, singing, strange noises.
Comparisons with Mr. Bungle are inevitable at this point, but the Screaming Headless Torsos are not nearly as raucous, or inventive. Still, I think jammers will dig them. They kick funky posterior.
There is a sample at http://www.afn.org/~afn39111/free.zip of the second track, "Free Man," from their self titled album. If you like it, well, finding the album won't be easy, but worth it, I think.
The 2 meg sample is in mono, because I don't have the disk space for more, but that doesn't really matter because it's only meant to promote cool music. The file is zipped to avoid cooking of the mp3 by Netscape.
The song will hopefully be around for a week (I have yet to see if the automatic file deleter grabs it for being too big or not). After that point, it will disappear from the face of the earth, to be replaced by something else.
What do you think? How about some Talk Talk for next week?
-=- I know a monster when I see one in the mirror.
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 21:00:48 -0500 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: a screwed up message on my part Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980401210048.00797740@pop3.afn.org>
Everyone has to misdirect a message at least once in their life. I have a feeling that Eudora sent a message to the ytsejam (though the To: line read differently) about ICQ. If so, I apologize. Most of you already know about ICQ.
BTW on the "Derek likes Marilyn Manson" issue, I just accept it as one of his personal quirks. If I can accept Chick Corea being a Scientologist, I'm sure I have no problem with Derek liking MM, even if myself I can't stand the band.
-=- I know a monster when I see one in the mirror.
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:16:00 -0800 From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: two things.... Message-ID: <3523F200.11EE@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
Has anyone heard the Ben Folds Five song "Brick"?
The first line is :
6 am...day after christmas....
also........
Does anyone else think that in the band photo on Stratovarius "The Fourth Dimension" that the singer looks like Fox Mulder?
Cheers
Paul D.
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