YTSEJAM Digest 3706
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Argh!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) Re: The Ytse-Police
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
3) Re: Tone - the never ending quest
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
4) Re: Argh!
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
5) Re: Tone - it never ends
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
6) Re: George Lynch
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
7) Explorer's Club
by al770415@mail.mty.itesm.mx
8) Everything Under the Sun...
by "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net>
9) Re: What a naddy idea
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
10) random ramblings
by Madsag <Madsag@aol.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3702
by "Timothy P. Shough" <hounddog@nji.com>
12) Re: George Lynch
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) Re: Tone - the never ending quest
by James Bako <jbako@erols.com>
14) Guitars
by Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
15) Hedges and butts
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
16) People suck.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:41:00 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Argh!
Message-ID: <199804032341.PAA22311@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, KEZCOM said:
>Now THAT's funny...............
And your stupid one line posts saying everything is funny is not funny...
-The Doc
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:43:51 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The Ytse-Police Message-ID: <35256627.E23B65DA@sydney.net>
Jon Kretschmer wrote: > > >Watch out guys, it's the ytse-police. So, we can spend eternity > >discussing whether or not the Yes singer sucks and discussing what kind of > >picks "make you play better", but Metallica is too off topic? Blow me.
Bottom line is no matter what you say you aern't gonna change the mind of someone who hates Load or thinks they have sold out. You can't talk till your blue in the face you won't change my mind about them.... The only think that might changed my mind is the Metallica gig I am seeing tonight. I am giving them one last chance to prove that they can still do it for me.
graham
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:51:27 EST From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tone - the never ending quest Message-ID: <fedd7649.35257600@aol.com>
Earlier I babbled:
<< > 3) The Player - just thought I would bring this one up for the hell of it. > Yes - if your technique sucks, your tone will probably suffer. If your > technique is flawless, your tone will definitely benefit. >>
Then "someone" explained: << Then why don't people compliment Chris Impelliteri's tone, or George Bellas' tone? These guys are technical MONSTERS playing through great rigs... and they're missing something. Attention to detail... making a note sing like a voice, instead of like a piece of wire... there's more to it than I think you're acknowledging. >>
When I refer to technique, I don't only mean speed. To me technique is - speed, accuracy, and dynamics. Accuracy as in how you control the extraneous noises (open strings, grating pick strokes, palm muting) and dynamics as in how well you use this accuracy to achieve this. All of these things are that little extra. These things can also be influenced by the quality of the guitar (bad construction leading to extraneous noises and improper harmonic balance)
BTW, I would like to hear how your EMG's on a seven string experiment goes. I can't afford a seven string, so I took an extra guitar, so I took a set of 10's, threw out the ".10" string, bought a thick low B string and strung the guitar - B E A D G B. This is more a poor man's solution - but it has another effect. When I take it out on stage nobody is expecting to hear a REALLY LOW guitar. It just looks like a regular guitar. When I took it out on the stage at MI, the instructors went wild. Especially when we had to do cover songs. I never play a cover as is. I always put a trademark to it. This extended range between me and another guitarist seemed to help that. What would really help is if I just got a seven string. But the quality of Ibanez has gone from mid/low quality to just plain garbage, so I don't want ot buy one of the new seven strings. I also don't like pickguards (a tone thing), so the universe is out. I've tried to contact Ibanez to just build me a seven string custom, but I am not getting anywhere with that. What was I saying - oh yeah, let me know how your EMG's work. Mesa Boogie told me the Triaxis HATES EMGS, and from what I heard from guitars with EMG's - I agree. But like you and I said, one man's tone (atleast for the week until he gets tired of it) is another man's joke. Oh wait, I didn't mean to imply that tone is a man thing. Gays worry about their tone also :o)
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:56:04 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Argh! Message-ID: <35256904.DD017AFA@sydney.net>
Dr. Mosh wrote: > > On the Eve of Destruction, KEZCOM said: > >Now THAT's funny............... > > And your stupid one line posts saying everything is funny is not funny...
Agreed, but he isn't the only one who posts stupid one liners that are unnecessary, unfunny and stupid...... But mail filters are a most wonderful thing :)
graham
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:05:30 EST From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tone - it never ends Message-ID: <29afda1c.3525794c@aol.com>
I stated:
<< > However, the reference to "its all in the hands" is pure shit. If it were ALL in > the hands, everyone would save money and buy a Fender Squire guitar and > a Crate amp. So the player shouldn't really be an opinion focal point. The > player is very important to tone, but a million "it is all in your hands" > doesn't really help anyone.>>
Someone responded: << I can't disagree with this any more than I do. Why is it that when I play through a replica of Petrucci's set up, my tone is nothing like his? Why is it that Steve Lukather couldn't sound like Eddie Van Halen when he played through Van Halen's rig? Why couldn't George Lynch get Warren DiMartini's tone when he stole DiMartini's amp out of his house? ....... A good guitar and a good amp compliment a musician, but the music comes from the musician, and if you can't make it sing, then no amount of cash is going to fix that. >>
I agree with you. My point is that it isn't "ALL" in the hands. That is why I capitalized ALL. By ALL, that means that the gear is NONE of the tone. I was just implying that going on and on about how it comes from the player doesn't really help anyone. As far as sounding like yourself through ANY gear, I agree and disagree. Yes, your style and dynamics are there - but you would prefer to have gear that "compliments" this. Case in point, people always talk about Eddie Van Halen's Brown Sound and how he has never quite retained it when that amp died. Close, but no cigar. The player remained the same, but the tone changed. That brings in the other variable also - recording technique. Somedays I can get my Mesa to sound like GOD and then I stick the mic in front of it and it sounds like SHIT. After some tinkering with the mic placement, it still sounds like SHIT. Sometimes I can get the recording to sound like GOD by making the amp sound like SHIT. "Hey your amp has WAY TOO MUCH BASS" - well, listen to the finished product on tape. Bass seems to be the first thing to go with a mic. Backing the mic off to recapture this bass then loses definition. This is why I am looking at the Sansamp PSA-1 for recording purposes. That and I don't wake up the neighbors. Besides, I heard the guitarist of Stone Temple Pilots uses it and he strikes me as VERY GAY so it has to be good :o)
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:12:48 EST From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: George Lynch Message-ID: <b83b83d3.35257b02@aol.com>
"Someone" spouted:
<< Why couldn't George Lynch get Warren DiMartini's tone when he stole DiMartini's amp out of his house? >>
Yet another post. The answer to this is simple. The dumb ass stole the wrong amp. Besides, GL's tone beats the shit out of WDM's tone. I love George Lynch. His soloing is so fluid. I can't wait to hear the new Lynch Mob album. Does anyone have the lowdown on who the singer is? George already has gone through (and this is just since Dec 97) Oni Logan, Robert Mason, and John West. John West is NOT the new singer. I have heard Sebastian Bach is the new singer. Although I don't like Skid Row - I think he has a great voice. And besides, he has James LaBrie beat on the lip motions!!!! Mr. Scary is the reason I started playing guitar!!
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:57:29 -0600 () From: al770415@mail.mty.itesm.mx To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Explorer's Club Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.3.95.980403185613.-320695C-100000@hpv099.mty.itesm.mx>
This is from www.hardradio.com
EXPLORER'S CLUB's debut is yet another superstar project under the album name Age Of Impact. The record features the core unit of drummer Terry Bozzio (FRANK ZAPPA, UK, MISSING PERSONS, BOZZIO LEVIN STEVENS), bassist Billy Sheehan (TALAS, DAVID LEE ROTH, MR. BIG), MAGELLAN keyboardist Trent Gardner and guitarist Wayne Gardner. Guest spots include from DREAM THEATER's John Petrucci, James LaBrie and Derek Sherinian, YES' Steve Howe, JAMES MURPHY, CAIRO's Bret Douglas, ROYAL HUNT's D.C. Cooper...
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:49:53 -0500 From: "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net> To: "DT" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Everything Under the Sun... Message-ID: <199804040129.UAA05363@indy3.indy.net>
1) Dt as a supporting act. Hey, that's the only way I ever saw Extreme, so I'm used to forking over the bucks and leaving early. But consider this: I think watching the reactions of people who are already predisposed to heavy music and have no idea who DT are would be worth the price of admission right there. Think of it as a wonderful self-validating experience. All those people violently being jerked to attention by something you've already been turned onto for a long time. After DT lays waste to the crowd, there will be more soiled underwear than a Chuck Berry fantasy!
2) Satriani. New album rules. But where the hell is Stu?????? I mean, I wait all these years for Satraini to WAKE THE FUCK UP and put him on an album (no, Dreaming #11 and Time Machine don't count and neither does Flying in a Blue Dream) and then the guy is TOTALLY buried in the mix. Are the Stu Hamm Fenders just muddy sounding, or is it really a production thing? Stu, Stu, Stu.
3) Spock's Beard. I never get tired of reading about other bands on the jam, so I won't hesitate to plug them as well. I was in CA for three weeks last month and finally had access to record stores that carry stuff like this. All I want to say, is that if they could implant a uterus in me, I would bear Neal Morse's children. Jeez, this is the most amazing stuff. Get it. All of it. Those of you who already haven't.
4) Enchant. I'm a little late to the party here - I just got Wounded as well. I thought it was okay, nice and pleasant, but nothing special. WRONG. This album blows me away. There aren't many albums that I can say get better with each listen, but this is one of them. It's like DT lite. Amazing musicianship. When Ted Leonard holds out the word 'rain' in 'Pure' right into the guitar solo (those who have this album know exactly what I'm talking about), my hair just stands on end. I want everything they've ever done.
5) Fates 'Paralles'. I cannot for the life of me imagine that I had this at one time and sold it. I cannot, for that matter, imagine that I ever disliked this band. Correction, I HATED them. I got APSoG just because I was sick of everyone going on about it, and think it's pretty much the greatest thing since sliced bread. Got Paralles through Columbia House for $1.99, an album which is another big winner in my book. It's not APSoG, but it's close.
I'm done.
Mike Patrick Indianapolis, IN mepatric@indy.net
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:58:10 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: What a naddy idea Message-ID: <01bd5eac$56114480$2e0d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
>Anyone willing to do this? Come on folks, show what true fans are! > Castrate yourself for prog!
Sure thing. A little hot water, snippity snip. I hear prosthetic testicles are pretty comfortable, too. We can hire Lorena Bobbit since she's got on the job experience...
But what about the chicks? Do we cut out an ovary or give them the ol' Nancy Reagan look?
We can have a Ytsecon and arrange it all there. :) --EunichX3
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:41:28 EST From: Madsag <Madsag@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: random ramblings Message-ID: <932baf02.35258fca@aol.com>
>>I'm not normally a fan of religious-type music, but these guys are flat-out amazing. Their lyrics are vague enough not to be heavy-handed, but are well written nonetheless. Plus, they are probably some of the best songwriters to come along in recent years. Catchy, thought-provoking stuff. Although, I have to recommend their debut over "Much Afraid." Their debut is one of the best albums I have ever bought in my life. They were using drum loops on that one, which I like better (odd, since I'm a drummer). Something about the combination of acoustic guitars and drum loops blew my mind.<<
thanks richie the ytse-psychic for posting exactly what i think about jars of clay they are truly a great band (i soooooo agree the debut album is stunning)
the april fools pranks were hilarious, although someone needs to come clean my monitor from me spraying my lovely beverage all over it when i read ying wee's name mispelled.
all this talk about playing wasted is ironic considering last weekend we played and i cannot remember the last 2 sets at all, except for one song in the last set where i was convinced i was going to add my own personal pyrotechnics to the show. it sucked even more when i realized i had to sing all 10 of the songs that followed it (weve got 2 singers). that was a definite autopilot night.
guitar grimoire - the old man has the chords and scales books, and i think i remember seeing the 3rd book when i purchased them, although it was a few years ago so im not quite sure.
oh, and gay people are evil right down to their coal-black hearts.*
~melissa~ madsag@aol.com
* i dont really think gay people are evil so dont nobody jump on my ass.
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:43:37 -0800 From: "Timothy P. Shough" <hounddog@nji.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3702 Message-ID: <3525BA79.1B0F@nji.com>
Phil writes: > Now, I've got several ideas already, but I'd like to hear recommendations > from you 'jamanoids. What songs would you recommend that have lots and lots > of keyboards, or lots of strings and orchestra mixed in with the rock > sound? I'd like to show her that I'm not just losing my mind, and that it > really does sound cool. :) > > Post replies here (I think the 'jam would benefit from something like this) > or send 'em to me via private email, I don't care. :)
This is way cool. My recommendation, and the most awesome piece of rock music I've ever heard, is Extreme's "Everything Under the Sun" (it's the third side from III Sides to Every Story). This epic masterwork has just about all the essentials of progressive metal but is seldom mentioned here. It starts with a beautiful acoustic guitar passage followed by some nice vocals. The second part contains a short but pyrotechnic guitar solo and is somewhat heavier but not overly so. The final part contains some gorgeous strings and piano and great singing (a capella in one part)...very orchestral in spots. I've yet to find a more moving piece of music in any rock genre. I think that Payne's Gray comes close, though...what a superb album! Please post the recommendations you receive here; I'm very interested in this style of progressive rock. Thanks!
Tim
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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:51:45 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: George Lynch Message-ID: <199804040151.RAA24117@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Calvin 6S said: >"Someone" spouted: > ><< Why couldn't George Lynch get Warren DiMartini's tone when he stole >DiMartini's > amp out of his house? >> > >Yet another post. The answer to this is simple. The dumb ass stole the wrong >amp. Besides, GL's tone beats the shit out of WDM's tone. I love George
Not only that, I don't think he actually wanted WDM's tone, he just wanted to build off of it... plus, he likes to run all the amps at 220volts to melt the tubes a little...
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:21:27 -0500 From: James Bako <jbako@erols.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tone - the never ending quest Message-ID: <352471D6.BBB1C062@erols.com>
Calvin 6S wrote:
> BTW, I would like to hear how your EMG's on a seven string experiment goes. I > can't afford a seven string, so I took an extra guitar, so I took a set of > 10's, threw out the ".10" string, bought a thick low B string and strung the > guitar - B E A D G B. This is more a poor man's solution - but it has another > effect. When I take it out on stage nobody is expecting to hear a REALLY LOW > guitar. It just looks like a regular guitar. When I took it out on the stage > at MI, the instructors went wild. Especially when we had to do cover songs.
I did the same thing to one of my guitars (except that I kept the standard intervals, i.e.: your G is my F#), and I love playing for people and getting the same reaction you seem to be getting.
> but I am not getting anywhere with that. What was I saying - oh yeah, let me > know how your EMG's work. Mesa Boogie told me the Triaxis HATES EMGS, and > from what I heard from guitars with EMG's - I agree. But like you and I said,
I use EMG's and I'm just about to get a Tri-Axis, and now I read this :) Now I'm curious, could you please elaborate on the apparent Boogie/EMG clash?
James Bako jbako@erols.com
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:05:05 EST From: Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Guitars Message-ID: <5bb0b3a5.35259554@aol.com>
Guitar bodies. Chris 'suckbird' Ptacek wrote, "I find that the wood means more to tone than the paint job or lack thereof."
Have you ever played a guitar with a body made of metal? Along with the dozens of other theoretical fantasies I have about music, one of them is a guitar made of aluminum, or chrome. Something that rings very sonorously. I'd suggest brass, but then I'd have to shape the body like a bell and put a huge crack near the bottom, i.e. The Liberty Guitar. I wonder if shaping the body like a grid, or something similar to a human rib cage, would increase the sonority - a shape full of holes rather than a large block of metal. What about three- dimensional surface ripples, like the surface of a lake? What would THAT do to your tone? Glass and crystal were out long ago, 'cause let's face it, high harmonics would cause them to shatter on stage, and that's no good. Porcelain would work nicely because it's heavy as hell for people who like heavy as hell guitars, plus there are DOZENS of cleaning products on the market for shining up porcelain. "Bowing to the porcelain god" would take on new meaning, no? Even though I've never seen guitars like these (which makes the concepts "theoretical" to me), I'm fully aware that someone has already done all of these things, just like someone has already done everything. Is that stupid reasoning supposed to stop the mind? Has it yet?
Necks. Chris 'more notes than a barrel of nightingales' Ptacek also wrote, "I like Mapel fretboards just as much as ebony...each has its own tonal characteristic that can't really be duplicated on the other." What about necks made of material other than wood? What about a fretboard made of rubber for a special muted-notes-only guitar? You could combine it with palm-muting for a SUPER-CHUNKY rhythm section! Dimebag Darrel eat yer spleen out!!!
And how come no one's mentioned frets yet? Has anyone ever made a fretboard that looks like the typical drawing of ocean waves? Just a long wavy line with ridges spaced evenly apart? Combine that with the rippled-water body, you've got the Neptune guitar. Someday when I own my own guitar manufacturing company, the Neptune will be a limited edition, so you might wanna start e- mailing me with requests now. Yes, it will come in seafoam green.
Tremolos. Chris 'abiding dude' Ptacek wrote, "As long as you don't rely on it for all your licks, I think it can be really tasteful." I have two problems with this statement. Problem #1 - if you can't lick something, how can tell what it tastes like? Problem #2 - that's like saying "as long as you don't use the B-string too much, it can be really tasteful." The tremolo is attached to my guitar. I admit that anything overdone or abused gets repetitive and annoying, but am I supposed to stay away from the whammy bar because it's evil? I refuse to acknowledge the differences others see between the floating tremolo and any other part of the guitar. Don't utilize that volume knob too much, kids, or you'll sound like a total moron. One day I'll write a song played with only an e-bow and a whammy bar. You won't be able to play it WITHOUT a floating tremolo... And then you'll be sorry... Oh yes you will... So sorry that you won't be able to type... Better start e-mailing me with apologies now...
Action. Chris 'I am the law' Ptacek wrote, "There's no reason to have really high action, unless you're trying to give yourself a workout." Just because you've never played a guitar by running your fingers beneath the strings...playing them like you would with a slide but instead using your fingernails to create a slide-effect from below...doesn't mean *I* haven't. Someday when I have my own press-on nail manufacturing company, I'm going to make press-on nails made of very thin steel. Every finger will have the potential to be a slide. Then I'll make a guitar in the shape of a bow. It will be made of bronze. It will be called the Odysseus. The neck will be a large arc, the strings pulled in a straight line from the headstock to the body. Shaped like a BOW, get it? My press-on nails and super-high action will conquer all. Better stock up on kleenex now, Chris, 'cause you're gonna be sniffling like a dog in a crotch factory.
Calvin6S wrote "If your technique is flawless, your tone will definitely benefit." Chris 'nothing can save you, heretic!' Ptacek then wrote "Then why don't people compliment Chris Impelliteri's tone, or George Bellas' tone?" I am of the belief that in order for "tone" to exist, a frequency must be maintained in order for the ear to acknowledge a tone. (I know that scientifically speaking, tones are everywhere, all the time. I'm speaking from the vernacular of a guitar player.) A man who sings by clicking his tongue against the roof of his mouth while he sings wouldn't have a developed, truly unique tone like someone who just opens their mouth and goes "BLAAAAAAAAA!!!" It'd be harder to call the clicking singer's tone a "tone." I'd probably call it "noise." The clicking technique would belong to clicking singing man, but his tone would be one big fuckup. Malmsteen rarely has a tone because of the speed at which he chooses to play. Occasionally he holds notes and lets you hear what his tone *could* sound like if he chose to make his guitar emulate crying and laughing and donut-scarfing and other things that people with voices can do. I feel that Bellas and Impellitteri simply have no use for ringing, clear guitar tones. Does this make any sense AT ALL???
Elydian also mentioned that "there's nothing I hate more than someone firing out notes faster than a pick attached to an electric toothbrush just for the sake of it." For once, I am the "someone" in the "someone's already done that" phrase. Electric toothbrushes don't have a specific direction in their motors. They don't maintain an up-down or back-forth motion, they're more like vibrators, going in all directions at once completely at random. For a cool sound with a motor like this, try attaching a marble or a small, smooth metal object to the toothbrush before applying it to the strings. Trills from Hell. Trills above the 24th fret from Hell. A bumblebee having an epileptic fit...uh...from Hell. Or try wedging it underneath the tremolo, in between the trem and the body of the guitar. :)
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:01:17 -0700 From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hedges and butts Message-ID: <000f01bd5f6d$a4b8f260$422746cf@sir.micron.net>
I got my first taste of Michael Hedges today in the form of Aerial Boundaries. It pretty much fits with the description that I had gotten previously. He's better technically, but doesn't write the beautiful melodies and such that Billy Mclaughlin does. It's very cool stuff and I recommend it heartily. Korg and I were chatting a bit about Billy today and it produced a quote I deemed worthy so here goes:
I say something about how Billy doesn't really kick butt, he kinda soothes or massages butt.
Korg says "Yea he's kinda like a comforting suppository."
hehehe
Get high on ether when there's no one in the house. Pretend it's the big one the moment you pass out. That's just rehearsal, but it's comforting somehow To practice dying now.
woot™
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:17:09 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: People suck. Message-ID: <01bd5f6f$c58cf5c0$270d84d0@korgx3>
>In the new issue of the German BRAVO magazine, there is a CD review of >THE NEW DREAM THEATER MAXI CD CALLED "TOURING IN TO INIFINITY AND BEYOUND" !!!!!!!
>The "song" is dicribed as a ballade with complex piano parts !!!!
Hmm. So what's the name of this mystery song? Ahh.. I got it: "The Ballad of Buzz Lightyear." It's so sad DT's caving in to the Disney thing. Next thing you know they're gonna have shapely native american women scantily clad in leather on their album covers.
>Excuse me for this post, but I am extremely intoxicated right now, and >Dream Theater is SO FUCKING COOL when your drunk.
And you're SO FUCKING COOL to be drunk. Just thought I'd let you know... Why don't I just come over and beat your head with a hammer? Damn, I need a joint...
>but Metallica is too off topic? Blow me.
You would only want me to. That's so gay.
<list of bands and songs snipped> >Anybody else?
What? No Savatage? They're like the epitome of keyboard blended rock. Methinks Edge of Thorns and Jesus Saves would be good examples of such. So would most of the Dead Winter Dead album.
--KorgX3 the Choice of the Next Generation "I'm a Leper, she's a Leper, wouldn't you like to be a leper, too?"
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