YTSEJAM Digest 3707
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3703
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
2) Re: Cancel my subscr... (sorry, that was the Doors)
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
3) Rush CDs For Sale (Wave 1)
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
4) Blind Guardian
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
5) Re: Winger
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
6) Lesson in Guitar Tone
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
7) Symphonic rock (again)
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
8) Re: Monsters of Rock in Milan
by rpark@space-dye.com (Ryan Park)
9) His Royal Moshness
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
10) IF
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
11) pist-off
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
12) gay, drunk
by Tom Cox <lexine@rollanet.org>
13) Dream Theater in Pordenone Italy, April 2nd 1998
by Sebastjan Videc <sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si>
14) Re: Guitars
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
15) EMG`s
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3704
by Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
17) Anybody in Pordenone last night???
by Simona <gigauri@tin.it>
18) APSoG Video (NDTC)
by John Dea <jrdea@novia.net>
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:08:20 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3703
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980403220451.22238B-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> > (Don't jump on my back, Richie, I love Winger too). :)
> Me, too. Has anyone else heard his new acoustic Winger/solo hits cd?
> It's really good. The US version is called Made by Hand. The Jap version
> is called Another Way and has a bonus track.
Actually, Winger has never been one of my favorites. Every album has a
three or four good songs and the rest is filler. Too bad, because with the
musicianship in the band it could have been so much more. And I've been
looking for Made By Hand, but this is Vermont so of course no one has ever
heard of it.
Richie
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:58:45 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Cancel my subscr... (sorry, that was the Doors)
Message-ID: <559695b3.3525aff7@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-03 14:44:40 EST, you write:
<< 've had enough. The homos on the list can take their
lifestyle to PRIVATE e-mail. In the meantime, I'm
leaving. Go on with your puny little lives. I'll see you
in hell. :-)
The next e-mail that goes out is an unsubscription.
>>
yea well i'm sure you will be missed.....
Rocky
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:11:47 -0500
From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush CDs For Sale (Wave 1)
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980403231147.0073efa8@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Pardon the NDTC (my usual)...
I've got the following albums up for grabs, all by Rush:
A Farewell To Kings
Fly By Night
Grace Under Pressure
Hemispheres
Hold Your Fire
Permanent Waves
A Show of Hands
Signals
Now, I must warn any prospective buyers that these are *not* the remasters.
In fact, that's why I'm selling them. Still, they sound good (just not
anal-retenively good), and I'm asking only $5 a piece, shipping included,
with 'bulk discounts' if needed, for 'em. So it ain't a bad deal...
To anyone interested, please E-mail me. But act fast. Any that don't sell
in a few days, I'm shipping off to Cellophane Square (they even bidded on
'em already).
Brian "Grandmaster Crap" Henderson
===========================
Name:
W. Brian Henderson, Esq.
Contact:
hender@wam.umd.edu
ROBOT-CENTRAL:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:10:25 -0500
From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Blind Guardian
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980403231024.0071e564@maila.wm.edu>
Kevin Madden blathered:
>>Ok, I thought it was time someone touted Blind Guardian, as
I haven't seen their name here in awhile. If you thought
"Imaginations from the Other Side" or "Somewhere Far Beyond"
were great, but wondered if they could actually deliver live,
the answer can be found by purchasing "Tokyo Tales," a live
cd recorded during the "SFB" tour. I am pretty amazed listening
to this. They do the studio work proud, yet make a new experience
out of it at the same time. End of spooging sales job. >>
I was more than happy to see the name of this band mentioned on the list
again. I happened to go to the page that what's-his-face, that German
dude, posted (btw, WHAT IS THAT URL??? I tried to get back there again,
and couldn't find it, and it was a kick-ass page, in any case), and
downloaded a couple mp3s of their newest CD that were there. I am now
sufficiently in love with this music to be lusting after CDs of theirs,
particularly this last one, Twilight on Middle Earth.... I think. Somebody
else had problems with the title. :) In any case, just had to blather
onward some more about them, and if anyone has any info about the new CD,
or if any European jammers could get it for me or something, that would
rock my world. Email me if this is the case. Laters!
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:13:11 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Winger
Message-ID: <6dbb07ed.3525b359@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-03 23:12:15 EST, you write:
<< > > (Don't jump on my back, Richie, I love Winger too). :) >>
huhu, stuart likes winger huhu....
another oneline post from
Rocky
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:20:12 -0800
From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Lesson in Guitar Tone
Message-ID: <01bd5f80$f6203380$0100007f@localhost>
Man, its cool to be back on the Jam again after a long
absence.
<Guitar Stuff> by Chris P.
>I absolutely believe that the right touch on the strings, and the
>right finesse mean more than the guitar or the amp, or the venue, or
>the haircut, or the pick, or anything. A good guitar and a good amp
>compliment a musician, but the music comes from the musician, and if
>you can't make it sing, then no amount of cash is going to fix that.
>Becker and Friedman recorded some awesome stuff on Hurricane guitars,
>and the guitars they used, seem to me to be complete crap! Think
>about it.
This is a lesson I had to learn after a good number of years.
I was in search for the mysterious Becker tone.
I talked with the X-bass player for Cacaphony Jimmy O'Shea
who's in the Sac area now. He had practiced many many times
with Jason in the rehersal studio and feels that it was totally Jason
not the gear. The Carvin amp/guitar sounded like crap to Jimmy but
when Jason played it, it sang.
Not too long ago, I asked Steve Fontano (producer of Perpetual
Burn) about Jason's sound. He replied simply, that it wasn't some
studio trick, gear or anything. It was totally Jason.
So I think I covered as much ground as I could in finding this
tone and its something that is unique. The major lesson is
don't worry about the gear, just worry about learning to play
your instrument first. Gear is second. Well....a close second. :)
>EXPLORER'S CLUB's debut is yet another superstar project under the album
>name Age Of Impact. The record features the core unit of drummer Terry
>Bozzio (FRANK ZAPPA, UK, MISSING PERSONS, BOZZIO LEVIN STEVENS), bassist
>Billy Sheehan (TALAS, DAVID LEE ROTH, MR. BIG), MAGELLAN keyboardist Trent
>Gardner and guitarist Wayne Gardner. Guest spots include from DREAM
>THEATER's John Petrucci, James LaBrie and Derek Sherinian, YES' Steve
>Howe, JAMES MURPHY, CAIRO's Bret Douglas, ROYAL HUNT's D.C. Cooper...
Can't forget Matt Guillory and Matt Bradley from DALI'S DILEMMA.
Matt G is trading solos with John Petrucci on this one.
>The answer is simple: You never, never do. Further, I don't know
>anyone who is satisfied with a single amp for a long period of
>time, no matter how good other people think the tone is. I know I'm
>gonna hear a great Bogner soon, and just toss my current rig out the
>window.
I'm selling my Boogie gear very soon. :)
King of Clubs--Paul Gilbert April 21
Dali's Dilemma-- Summer '98
peace,
--james--
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:31:02 -0500
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Symphonic rock (again)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980403233102.006ab920@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
After seeing my list of "keys/rock" songs, KorgX3 remarked:
>What? No Savatage? They're like the epitome of keyboard blended rock.
>Methinks Edge of Thorns and Jesus Saves would be good examples of such. So
>would most of the Dead Winter Dead album.
I've only two of 'tage's discs at present, DWD and Streets. I would
probably stay away from the songs on those because the growly vocals would
probably turn her off some. I'll have to rethink it though, most of DWD is
very orchestral and I hadn't remembered it for some reason. Not "Christmas
Eve/Sarajevo 12/24", though; that's just not fitting except 'round
Christmastime. :)
On a related note, I'm looking forward to picking up "The Wake of Magellan"
this upcoming Tuesday. This has been a great year for new discs already --
new Satch, LTE, new Glass Hammer, new 'tage next week, new Buffett two
weeks after that....and we're not even four months into the year yet!
Ta,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who
no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired,
gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
Currently playing: Fates Warning -- "No Exit"
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 00:36:35 -0500
From: rpark@space-dye.com (Ryan Park)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Monsters of Rock in Milan
Message-ID: <19980404053307578.AAA346@ryan-park>
As Volodya wrote...
>Hello, Jammers!
>This year Monsters of Rock in Milan, Italy will feature the following
>bands :
>VAN HALEN, DEEP PURPLE, DREAM THEATER and G3 (JOE SATRIANI, MICHAEL
>SHENKER, ULI ROTH). And Angra to be confirmed.
>Looks good.
I say that we petition to bring this to Milan, Illinois. With a population
3,000, Milan is on the outskirts of the "bustling metropolis" known as the
Quad-Cities. (Population 300,000). Milan is an upbeat village with a
sixteen-theater movie complex, a Subway restaurant, and railroad tracks for
entertainment. And it's only three hours from the nearest major city
(Chicago).
As far as a venue... Milan has a former drive-in theater, now an abandoned
parking lot, which would be the perfect venue for a show like this. And,
it's only a fifteen-minute drive from my house (as opposed to Milan, Italy,
a fifteen-HOUR flight).
Who's with me here? Let's show Van Halen, Deep Purple, Dream Theater,
Satriani, Shenker and Roth that MILAN WANTS TO ROCK!! :)
(Hell... if Dream Theater ever plays the Quad-Cities, I'll put y'all up at
my house... <g>)
Ryan
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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:25:49 EST
From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: His Royal Moshness
Message-ID: <136430ad.3525d26f@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-03 19:43:36 EST, you write:
<< And your stupid one line posts saying everything is funny is not funny...
-The Doc >>
Thank you Mr. Mosh. I appreciate your honesty, and in the future, will
consult YOU FIRST before trying to comment on the comedic value of a fellow
poster's thoughts.
There. Is three lines enough?
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 02:54:20 -0500 (EST)
From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IF
Message-ID: <01IVGEYPZ1960034SW@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
>it has a fair amount of 80's cheese injected into it, that's all. In my
>opinion, it's not enough to kill the song, but those not used to James'
Oh, yes it is. That megacheesy chorus is only half the problem, too. What
about the intro, which I'm pretty sure was sampled from a 90210 episode?
The rest of the song is great but the damage is done. It's so much easier to
just skip to voices, which is once again, the absolutely positively best
song ever.
All the morons who say shit like "Oh, huh-huh, Dream Theatre(that's how they'd
say it if they could), they're like, so gay, with all that 80's glam crap.
Why don't you like real music, like 311?"
And of course I want to try to explain that DT isn't anything *at all* like
80's glam crap, but then CiaW ends and I hear that damn intro. Doh! The
photos on WDADU don't help either, but that's excusable because that was '89.
I swear to god, everytime I hear that intro, I can a VO in my head saying,
"Next week, on 90210...brenda gets a back-alley abortion! And David whines!"
josh
rasi2290@splava
.cc.plattsburgh.edu
What, you got a problem with 2-line email addresses? Deal with it, jerky.
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 02:57:05 -0500 (EST)
From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: pist-off
Message-ID: <01IVGFFEKP5I0034SW@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Date sent: 4-APR-1998 02:57:00
............................................................
Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 02:36:46 -0600
From: Tom Cox <lexine@rollanet.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: gay, drunk
Message-ID: <3525F11E.51ED@rollanet.org>
Some of these gay posts are REALLY staring to be gay. Of course, I LOVE
women, so I guess I wouldn't know about that...
Hey drummers, what do you think about this whole "playing drunk thing?"
I've had a lot of guitarists get kind of irritated with me, because I
can drink a lot with no apparent effects to my playing ability. Why?
because half of it gets sweated out. Of course, I wouldn't want to
start playing DT while sloshed off of my ass, I've noticed that
sometimes it becomes very difficult to count farther than four when I'm
drunk off my ass. Actually, I try not to count when I'm drunk, because
that just gets confusing. I just got home from a gig earlier tonight
(this morning), and GOD, is it great to play out... To any of you St.
Louis 'Jammers, I live about an hour or so from there, so if you're
interested, cantact me.
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 13:03:37 +0200
From: Sebastjan Videc <sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dream Theater in Pordenone Italy, April 2nd 1998
Message-ID: <35261389.3E5B3084@uni-mb.si>
A brief review!
Got there around 1h before they opened, picked up tickets that were
waiting. Waited some more before they opened the gate. The crowd was
quite culture, peaceful.
The actual place was called Pallaca de lo Sport, or something like
that. Since I'm not Italian I don't know the exact spelling. It has
around 5000 capacity and sits on the sides with auditorium in the middle
in front of mix stuff. The lights were cool, red, yellow, blue, violet
and green I think. I wore my YTSEJAM shirt and I think it was unique.
Most of the audience had AWAKE, I&W, and shirts with only MAJESTY logo.
There was marked a special guest on the ticket and it was the Ruddes
Morgenstein project. Anyway, they played for around hour and a half, and
it was a really great experience to hear these two. The only thing that
bothered me was the sound. It was very muddy, maybe because of the
place, but I think it could have been mixed better. The bass drum didn't
had the attack it's supposed to, but anyway... A great experience from
RMP. A friend of mine was impressed.
After the RMP the crew cleaned the stage(Rod Morgenstein had his drum
set) and began preparing the stage for OFB. It took them around 30
minutes to do so. Then the lights went out, and A Change of Seasons had
begun, with Petrucci on white and black Ibanez.
Anyway I don't have the time to write evrything here, but I'll qrite
some more about the sound they had.
I stood around 5-7 m from the stage and I didn't hear keyboards, only
on some ocassions. Also, bass wasn't recognizable, it was there alright,
but... Guitar was superb, also drums with the same thing about bass
drums as with RMP.
Between two songs when there was silence, I heard Myung's stage sound
and it was very well defined, crispy, so I don't know what did the mix
man do.
This is all for now from me.
Enjoy,
Sebastjan
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 07:34:16 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Guitars
Message-ID: <352628C8.D9C5FF1D@caribe.net>
Uroborosss wrote:
> Guitar bodies. Chris 'suckbird' Ptacek wrote, "I find that the wood means more
> to tone than the paint job or lack thereof."
>
> Have you ever played a guitar with a body made of metal? Along with the dozens
> of other theoretical fantasies I have about music, one of them is a guitar
> made of aluminum, or chrome.
If you get a Musician's Friend catalogue.. you can find an aluminum electric
guitar.. called "aluminator" made by a company called Rogue....theyre butt ugly..
and go for $699
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com
Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 14:56:30 +0200
From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: EMG`s
Message-ID: <35262DFE.1097F11A@stones.com>
Hello jammers,
Some of you were wondering about EMG pickups. It`s a matter of
taste I guess. But I assure you that they`r not lacking warmth
or dynamics or anything some claim they do. It`s all up to you
to bring the best out of them I suppose. If one`s a lousy guitar
player it`s the easiest to bitch about pickups.
I have a custom made guitar (www.sever.si) and cause I wanted
hot screaming pickups, I put EMG`s in it. The `85 humbucker
works splendid for me in the neck position, great singing sustain,
and clean sound with a little chorus/reverb is just amazing.
I chose `81 humbucker for the bridge position. It`s extremely hot,
very easy to overdrive most amplifiers. Screaming harmonics pop out
of this sucker in no time. It sucks for clean sound though, If u use
bridge pickup with clean alot get 85 instead, much fatter. I have
SA singlecoil in the middle position, but don`t use it very much,
the middle position works only in combination for me. But the SA is
very straty clear sounding which sounds pretty good with some clean
stuff.
I guess it all depends on amplifier alot too, but so far my EMG`s
worked perfectly for me, except with a Marshall amplifier, if u`r
into natural tube crunch, u better go with some passive pickups
instead (DiMarzio would be the best choice in this case for me).
Alot of people I know use EMG`s with Mesa Boogie amplifiers and
even with TriAxis and they`r very satisfied with the sound. `81
sounds shitty for tube crunch (too thin), but `85 is much better.
-
Matej
(My sincere apology if u think that this doesn`t fit on this
mailing list)
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 10:15:17 -0500
From: Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3704
Message-ID: <35264E85.6DD5@net1plus.com>
> On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Jon Dery wrote:
> >Actually I'm thinking about starting a petition for a petition-free
> >ytsejam. It's old, people. It's just silly to churn out a petition
> > each time we get greedy for a new album.
>
> Grow a sense of humor. Did you read the rest of that post? It was
> ridiculous, and involved people sending testicles to Elektra showing
> how dedicated we were. C' mon. If you took *that* seriously, I have
> a bridge in Brooklyn I wanna sellya.
>
> --Matt
Grow a brain. He was serious about the petition. When the testicles
part came up he was just jokingly restating how strong his desire was
for a live album.
DTC: I'm going to see DT at an outdoor ampitheater in August (Great
Woods in MA)! They're opening for DP/ELP so they'll only get about an
hour, but the thought of seeing them in that environement has got me
considerably *psyched*!
Jon Dery
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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 18:11:13 +0200
From: Simona <gigauri@tin.it>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Anybody in Pordenone last night???
Message-ID: <35265BA1.7343@tin.it>
Hello everybody,
now I can say: I WAS THERE!!! Eh, eh, eh...
Very very cool. When, on Monday, sold out was declared I thought "Ehy girl, kill yourself...
nothin' to do this time"...
Well, I spent 4 hours by car just to get there and I dare sayin' it's been worth.
When I finally arrived, I couldn't even make a step that a man asked me "what the hell are doing
all this people right here? who is gonna playin'???"... "dream who??? Never heard of them. What
kind of music..." ehm, I turned my back on him and left him among his hopeless questions... I had
a concert to go to! ...Not many people tellin' the truth, but pretty good...
Opening: Jordan Rudess & Rod Morgenstein... ah guys they work!
Show: oh... all I can say is... WOW!!! Very amusing one... Oh yeah!
Aftershow: I could not believe it!!! I met them! Or better I met James, JP, Mike and (yes, he came
too) John Myung. What a kind man!
I have no words... they're fantastic people... just wanted to share this with you all...
(thanx Marco, I know you're reading this...)
Take care...
Simo.
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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 98 10:16:50 -0600
From: John Dea <jrdea@novia.net>
To: "~YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: APSoG Video (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199804041615.KAA02360@oasis.novia.net>
Hi.
Just watched the APSoG video, and I hate to say it, but I was rather
disappointed with it. The song itself was incredible to see performed
live. However, when I bought the video from CDNow, their Web site said
the running time was 1 hr., 55 min. Either I misread that, or it was a
typo. It was actually 0 hr., 55 min., i.e., they played APSoG, and that
was it. I was expecting a bit more than just a single one-hour song.
Was the music great? Absolutely. Was the video any good? Again,
absolutely. Was it worth $17 for such a short tape? Not at the moment,
but maybe I'll be more pleased with it if I watch it a few more times.
Just a warning to anyone who hadn't bought it yet but was considering
it...
Later,
John
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