YTSEJAM digest 3712

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Mon Apr 06 1998 - 14:35:55 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Blind Guardian on Century Media
     by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
      2) Rush bootleg help
     by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
      3) Re: Bun E. and public insanity.
     by AL <al@isd.net>
      4) Get that Jap HY single!
     by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
      5) Re: Guitarists: Alert
     by Clark Abel <99able@alma.edu>
      6) URGENT INFORMATION REQUEST
     by "mariolb" <mariolb@mx3.redestb.es>
      7) Liquid Tension Experiment Review
     by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
      8) GUITAR TALKIN' BOOT CD
     by Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
      9) irving plaza on may 8th
     by Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
     10) Tour dates
     by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
     11) Re: The Ytse-Police
     by Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
     12) RE: YTSEJAM digest 3711
     by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
     13) DT in GREECE
     by Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@atlas.uoa.gr>
     14) Re: Rush bootleg help
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
     15) recommendation
     by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
     16) t-shirt chasing
     by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
     17) re: PUI
     by Madsag <Madsag@aol.com>

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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:03:44 +1000
    From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Blind Guardian on Century Media
    Message-ID: <3528B690.26ABA2CF@sydney.net>

    When is the new album out in Japan ?

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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:11:04 +1000
    From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
    To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Rush bootleg help
    Message-ID: <3528B848.B00A1B10@sydney.net>

    Any Rush fans out there who know of this boot:
    RUSH - NEVER STAND STILL - KNICK ARENA, ALBANY, NY 12/10/96 (D)
    FTCD 096/97
    Can anyone tell me the quality of this, I don't want to buy
    this 'blind' ?

    thank you
    graham

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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 07:32:02 -0500
    From: AL <al@isd.net>
    To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Bun E. and public insanity.
    Message-ID: <3528CB42.ADA6A223@isd.net>

    I'm showing my age here, but Cheap Trick was BIG when
    I was in High school. And Bun E. Carlos could lay down one
    hell of a foundation. And get this, they are still around!
    Where the hell is Boston, Styx, Heart, REO Speedwagon,
    Kansas, The Cars, and so on?
    Sure, its late 70s hard rock/pop, but that's what some of us
    used to listen to. Well I was kind of a closet YES and Rush
    fan, along with other 70s prog, But I still had exposure to this
    stuff from the radio. Cheap Trick has always loved to play
    live, you can see it in the presentation. And yes, they still have
    Bun E. banging the skins, Rick Neilson still plays the goofy
    guitars, Tom Petersson on bass, and Robin Zander on vox.
    He still sounds the same. If you are so inclined, you can look
    and listen to a archived show from late last year at live concerts.com.
    Here is the URL
    http://www.liveconcerts.com/listening/concerts/970922/Cheap_Trick/
    I hope you have the Real Player 5.0 plug in, and a 33.6 or better modem.
    Nobody flame me for listening to this ancient pop rock,
    I did get better with treatment. (hehe) You see its like
    this: DT = Cool. DT is ALs favorite band. Therefore
    AL = Cool. well maybe. Maybe AL need to dig out his
    vinyl copy of Lucifers Friend and listen to it at 78 RPM.
    Then smoke enough rope to bake his brain enough to make
    even Hanson sound *Cool.* Wait a minute, They would have
    to deliver that much hooch on a pallet. Will Hansons label pay
    for this? Huh. Puff Daddy? I know what I will do,
    Im gonna dig out my old Atomic Rooster album, Place it on my custom
    Revox limited addition Minister series turntable (so I can play it backwards)
    Grow tusks out of my butt cheeks, and breathe fire from my schvinkter.
    Where is Jim Baker when I need him? gooniegoogoo. Toodles!
    One final word. DT & DP are gonna rock big time, John Lord is an animal.

    See ya, AL...

    Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems
    http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html
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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:02:53 +1000
    From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Get that Jap HY single!
    Message-ID: <3528D27D.75@winshop.com.au>

    Hiya dudes and dudettes,

    Just wanted to say anyone who hasn't picked themselves up a copy of the
    Jap HY single should do so. It's might set ya back a bit for a single
    (it cost me $25 AUS.), but how many CD singles have the following ?;

    Hollow Years (Radio Edit) 4:16
    Hollow Years (LP version) 5:55
    You Or Me (Demo) 6:25
    The Way It Used To Be 7:47
    Burning My Soul (Live) 8:19
    Another Hand/The Killing Hand (Live) 13:27

    I know that the tracklist has been posted before, but check out the
    times! That comes to 46:09 altogether - virtually a full length album!
    Funny thing is, is that it's a *HY* single, but HY is probably the least
    interesting part of it. TWIUTB is brilliant of course, but BMS and
    AH/TKH are the best part of the CD. BMS (with Hell's Kitchen bits in it)
    is excellent - it then segues straight into AH/TKH. IMHO this one is
    better than the LatM version. I won't go into anymore detail, just find
    out for yourself!

    Soo-Poyb disc man!

    >> Symphony X:Twilight in Olympus
    >> If you liked their previous albums you=B4ll love this one.This is
    >> probably their best album(IMO,<---see!).

    > This album kicks so much, the disc is more of the same from SX.
    > Along with LTE this is my fave release of the year so far.

    Aye, this disc is hot. Yes, I also agree, better than DWoT. Russell
    Allen sounds brilliant.

    Czech yuz,

    Luke.

    N(and forever)P : LTE !!!

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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:24:30 -0700
    From: Clark Abel <99able@alma.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: 99abel@alma.edu
    Subject: Re: Guitarists: Alert
    Message-ID: <352901BE.C50@alma.edu>

    James Thorpe wrote:

    >
    > I guess, I've always considered BC Rich to be kinda 'chessy'.
    > Have they improved alot? I guess I need to check them out more closely.
    > I once thought this of Hohner till I checked out their Revelator
    > model (Todd Duane's Model). That's a killer guitar.
    >
    > peace,
    > --james--

            Yeah, cheesy looking, but they actually made some very high quality guitars in
    addition to the absolute crap that all guitar companies are forced to make these days.
                                            -Clark

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    Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:43:35 +0200
    From: "mariolb" <mariolb@mx3.redestb.es>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: URGENT INFORMATION REQUEST
    Message-ID: <199804061340.GAA00328@odin.ax.com>

    Este es un mensaje con múltiples partes en formato MIME.

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    HI,
    I'm a spanish Dream Theater fan, from Barcelona.
     
     I'm going to watch them in 2 days! I'm sure it will be a very good
     performance.
     
     I would like you told me wich songs they play in this '98 Tour.

    Sorry and thank you

    MARIO

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    color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">HI,<br>I'm a spanish Dream Theater fan, =
    from Barcelona. <br> <br> I'm going to watch them in 2 days! I'm sure it =
    will be a very good<br> performance.<br> <br> I would like you told me =
    wich songs they play in this '98 Tour.<br><br>Sorry and thank =
    you<br><br>MARIO<br><br>&lt;mariolb@mx3.redestb.es&gt;</p>
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    Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:58:38 +0100
    From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Liquid Tension Experiment Review
    Message-ID: <01BD6174.DD836B80@pcnga.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    no, don't panic, this time the review isn't by me, although I agree with a lot
    of what this guy writes. Just point the browser of your choice (LYNX rules)
    to the following address and read on McDuff...

    http://www.dailyvault.com/3_10_98.html

    Also, all of you considering cutting off your nads in order to petition the band
    to do this, that or the other should read the 'confession' at the following
    address before continuing with your projects:

    http://www.bme.freeq.com/extreme/free/nullo/burdcast.html

    Now I know why so many guys in bands sing with high voices...

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
    Currently playing: Skyclad - The Silent Whales Of Lunar Sea

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    Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:06:56 +0100
    From: Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: GUITAR TALKIN' BOOT CD
    Message-ID: <802565DE.004CB31B.00@ThamesWater.Co.Uk>

    Hey there Jammers,

    I must admit to being one of the silent majority usually but I thought i'd
    share this wee story with you all.

    As far as DT goes I own all the 'standard' albums and a couple of singles,
    DTIFC etc.....so this weekend I popped along to Oxford to do some shopping.
    There just happened to be a pretty big CD/Record fair going on so i thought
    it would be rude not to go and check it out.

    At stall no 2 I find a I&W on tape in perfect as-new condition (great for
    my non-CD car) this cost me ?2.50 !!!!! COOL

    anyway I thought this was going to be the high point as 25 stalls later I
    had nothing else until.......I stumbled upon Dream Theater 'Guitar Talkin'
    Acoustic & Clinic' for ?10. As I mentioned I'm a bit of a boot virgin so I
    was very impressed with this Kobra produced package with full colour insert
    and songs like RTK, Lost Without You, Where are you Now and acoustic
    beauties like WFS, LSOAD,LTL etc A FULL 79 MINUTES.

    OK so to cut to the chase if anybody out there wants a good quality tape
    copy of this I'll gladly trade for any good quality taped boots in return
    to get my collection off to a flying start. As you can see I want to make
    nothing out of this except spread my general good feelings to mankind in
    general ( us Brits are a mis-understood race you know)

    If you could drop me an e-mail before posting anything so I dont double up
    on anything.........

    Cheers

    Steve A

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    Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:20:42 EDT
    From: Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: irving plaza on may 8th
    Message-ID: <6e092ed2.3528e4bd@aol.com>

    ....right on the day of my con law final.....all i can say is:

    fucking shit.

    ************************************************************************
    david y. kobayashi
    new york law school
    thrak75@aol.com

    "better to save the mystery than surrender to the secret." -j. petrucci
    ************************************************************************

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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 08:53:27 -0600
    From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Tour dates
    Message-ID: <s528980f.039@IOMEGA.COM>

    Yeah, they suck!
      Again the Rockies get screwed! And they're even getting regular
    rotation on the air-in fact last week KROCK played a 5:00 block of
    them. And we still don't deserve them :< So I guess I'm supposed to
    feel privileged that I got to see them 4 YEARS ago. Sorry, for the
    rant (not really) but this is starting to really piss me off. WAH!

       Bun E. Carlos: So what's Cheap Trick doing lately?

    Wilmo

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    Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:17:31 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: The Ytse-Police
    Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980406111015.45532A-100000@archa10.cc.uga.edu>

    >
    > >Watch out guys, it's the ytse-police. So, we can spend eternity
    > >discussing whether or not the Yes singer sucks and discussing what kind of
    > >picks "make you play better", but Metallica is too off topic? Blow me.
    >
    > Uh, no thanks?
    >
    > Im not saying its off topic, Im saying I am tired of reading "Metallica
    > should go back to MoP and AJFA...They are a bunch of posers now." "No they
    > arent, I like them." We have been reading the same shit ever since Load
    > came out, and everyone who hasnt commented on it seems to think that their
    > view will be somehow different than anyone else's. Same post, different
    > name. Either you like them now, you dont, or you dont care. Im just
    > getting tired of reading about it.

    You could try:
    1) not reading it
    2) saying what you mean the first time

    >
    > But I am only one person, so go ahead and post how much Lars sucks, or how
    > much you love Hammet's consistency in his solos over at least a 10 year
    > time span. I challange you to add something new into the Metallica vs.
    > Alternica debate, and welcome it, but for the love of god do not say
    > something that has been said 400 times before..

    Hmm...if I remember correctly you didn't mention anything about
    "welcoming" new Metallica discussion, you practically said the guy should
    be neutered, tarred, and feathered for simply bringing them up in the
    first place (see #2 above)...

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Album Currently Playing: Tourniquet--Psycho Surgery
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Matt Smith "When Dream and Day Unite, Images and Words
    ktulu@arches.uga.edu Awake A Change of Seasons Falling Into
                                    Infinity."
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    Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:38:21 -0400
    From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 3711
    Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=AMSC%l=AMSC_NTAS-980406153821Z-151@amsc_ntas.amsc.belvoir.army.mil>

    Matt T. Qhouth and wrote...

    >> And for you people in the US I will just say that a deal is in the
    >> works for the BG stuff to be release in America through Century
    >> Media. So it should be much quicker and cheaper to get it in the US
    >> soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
    >
    >OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jason, PLEASE keep the Jam posted regarding this
    >development! I've been dying to get my hands on some of their CD's after
    >playing to DEATH the mix tape you made me, but the prices are just too high
    >at
    >the mail order place I deal with. They're even more than usual imports they
    >sell. :-(
    >
    >An American release? That's AWESOME news!

    Yeah - now all we need is to get them to play here... :)
    Ptacek scribbled...

    > While absentmindedly flipping through Guitar World (I think it was
    >the Feb edition... the one with Roxanne and Soul Man transcribed), I
    >saw a B.C. Rich add that read in small print "7 Strings now available
    >in all models" Why hasn't anyone said anything about this yet? I am
    >going to have to find a B.C. Rich dealer near me to try out some of
    >their stuff... if I can find a decent guitar, I may just have a new
    >guitar company (none of that pointy guitar stuff... just a strat
    >style Ibanez alternative). This is very interesting news... I wonder
    >what their Trem options would be... I wonder if they'd have to use
    >Ibanez Floyds, or if they're alive enough (financially) to get around
    >that.

    Schecter is also making seven string models, although I don't know any
    of the details. I do know that the new stuff I've seen from both
    companies is quite nice - even the cheap Rich's were pretty decent...

    Mike
    >Division

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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:44:30 +0300
    From: Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@atlas.uoa.gr>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT in GREECE
    Message-ID: <3528F85E.1FFE7325@cc.uoa.gr>

    Hi there progsters

        Due to much work at the University I hadn't got the time to read
    much of the latest digests. I started just a few minutes ago catching
    up, and found the tour dates by MIKE P. (GOD in DRUMS), and I was
    really blast. I couldn't believe what I was reading. DREAM THEATER in
    GREECE in June 14. That' s far the best news I had in months. Gee I'm
    really excited, I can't wait for the day to come. Man I'm gonna have a
    stroke. YES!!!! YES!!!! YES!!!!
    I'd better get hold of myself.... wooooow, I don't think I can, It's
    so fucking great, I will finally see DT live. Please somebody stop
    me......I'm really getting insane.

    By the way has anyone heard a band called Ivanoe!? and if anyone from
    Greece is on ytsejam, please step forward I wanna hear from you.

    (the bad thing is that I still haven't found LTE)

    Buy
    Mike Z.

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    E-mail: mzahar@cc.uoa.gr
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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:02:09 -0400
    From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Rush bootleg help
    Message-ID: <199804061602.MAA20179@steelhead.cs.wm.edu>

    >
    > Any Rush fans out there who know of this boot:
    > RUSH - NEVER STAND STILL - KNICK ARENA, ALBANY, NY 12/10/96 (D)
    > FTCD 096/97
    > Can anyone tell me the quality of this, I don't want to buy
    > this 'blind' ?

    I'm going to assume that 1) being Australian, you write your dates "backwards"
    and meant October 12th, 1996, and that 2) the boot manufacturer just has the
    date wrong. The opening show of Rush's TFE tour was October 19th, 1996, at
    the Knick in Albany. It was an incredible show to be at, because it was the
    first time they'd played out in a few years. There were the usual couple of
    first show blunders, but this is also one of the only, if not *the* only, time
    they played Time And Motion (as heard on Bahr's "Virtual Songs").

    BTW, if you want to save money on the CD, I have an awesome cassette of the
    show (1st gen from an Audience DAT) that I'd be willing to trade. (It even
    sounds better than "Virtual Songs.")
    -d

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    Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:26:24 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: recommendation
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980406122418.25238A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>

            No DTC, but then again, this is a recommendation, so recommending
            DT on here would be kinda stupid anyway, but I digress.....

            If anyone, and I mean *ANYONE*, regardless of age or whatever,
            has a chance to see Henry Rollins do a spoken word performance,
            DEFINITELY GO!!!!!! Don't question it, don't do anything - just
            pick up the phone and get a ticket.

            I saw him on Saturday night at a small theater (approx 500 people)
            in Morristown, NJ, and I am still reeling from it. Easily one
            of the best live "performance" thingies that I have even been to.

            If you don't go, you will seriously miss out on a great time.
            That, combined with the fact that he comes around areas very
            infrequently (every 1-2 years or so) is more the reason to check
            him out. If you are disappointed, the E-mail me and *I* will
            personally refund your money....maybe.

                                                    -Al

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    Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:10:10 -0500 (EST)
    From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: t-shirt chasing
    Message-ID: <01IVJT49QK36003JC2@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>

    * One
    *guy chased after me (literally) after a class and told me how much he liked DT,*and
    *said he also listened to Queensryche. Bad part was I never saw the dude again.

    Yeah, for most tour shirts, I might say something in passing to the guy or
    girl, if I'm walking by them. But only for DT would I actually change
    direction and *follow* the shirt wearer. The one time in my life I saw
    someone wearing a DT shirt outside a concert was at a petfood store near
    my house. And I *did* change direction and go up to her and point it out.
    The funny thing is that it turned out to be Mrs. Portnoy.

    And come to think of it I did see her again at the vanderbilt concert in
    january. Hey mike, say hi to your wife from the petfood guy from nanuet!

    josh
    rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh

    Again, there would normally be a sig here, but I'm in severe South Park
    withdrawal and that terence and philip crap didn't help.

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    Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:21:52 EDT
    From: Madsag <Madsag@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: re: PUI
    Message-ID: <56562550.35291d44@aol.com>

    >>that's called professionalism. <g> what some people don't realize is that
    it's a job (at least if you're doing it full time and you hope to have a
    future doing it ;-) agents and club owners tend to frown upon bands
    playing under the influence.<<

    it depends on the club owner, and the band. some bands ive heard shouldnt
    even be playing at all, much less toasted. theres a local band here (probably
    the most popular and well paid band in dayton) that gets paid a VERY nice
    chunk of cash and 2 cases of beer everytime they play. the majority of club
    owners, at least in this town, only care about their cash register ringing and
    could care less what the band is doing as long as they are playing and people
    are having a good time and not leaving. i know one drummer who lives 24/7 in
    a semi drunken state that is always perfect when playing, i know another who
    in that same state enjoys throwing bottles at guys (including club owners) for
    looking at his girlfriend. you have to know what you personally can handle
    and still perform as a professional. someone is paying you to play, i agree
    its a job. i personally dont like playing totally fucked up, i dont feel in
    control of what im singing. im not even a drinker, although now im sure i
    sound like a total raging alcoholic.

    ~melissa~
    madsag@aol.com

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