YTSEJAM Digest 3715
Today's Topics:
1) Another one(s) bite(s) the dust
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
2) Irving Plaza show - Friday, May 8, 1998
by Timothy Lodge <timlodge@home.com>
3) Re: St. Louis jammers
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
4) SoCal Venues
by rjurado <rjurado@eiger.com.ph>
5) New Blind Guardian stuff
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
6) Internet Radio
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
7) Re: NEVERENDING DREAMS PART 2.2 (Concert reviews on seven German shows, setlists and some extras, the list of songs & samples from , the soundboard) LONG!!!
by Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch>
8) Myung`s bass
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
9) Cozy Powell
by ASHLEY WONG <ETL.ETLAYWG@mesmtpse.ericsson.se>
10) fan club gig and Empty Tremor
by "Patrick Sebel" <PATRICK@aowserver.phys.tue.nl>
11) Calling All Canadian East Coast Jammers
by MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca (MacAusland, Robert: HFX)
12) Re: LTE review/Cozy Powell/Mystic Fishook
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 02:45:33 -0400
From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Another one(s) bite(s) the dust
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980407024533.0073d81c@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Two recent music-related deaths I haven't yet seen anybody post about:
- one of the fellows from Milli Vanilli (dunno which -- apparently it was a
pill and alcohol situation)
- Cozy Powell of all manner of bands (ELPowell, Jimmy Page's band,
Malmsteen I think... car accident)
No further comment.
Brian "Somberish" Henderson
===========================
Name:
W. Brian Henderson, Esq.
Contact:
hender@wam.umd.edu
ROBOT-CENTRAL:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 02:56:10 -0400
From: Timothy Lodge <timlodge@home.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Irving Plaza show - Friday, May 8, 1998
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980407025610.006b7600@mail>
I just caught the new DT tour dates for the upcoming shows.
If anyone is planning a pre-show get together for the new York
city show on 5-8-98, PLEASE send me email as I'd love to be in
attendance!!!
Thanks!
Tim
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:03:03 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: St. Louis jammers
Message-ID: <199804070701.AAA10847@odin.ax.com>
> >Fri. May 15 - American Theater - St. Louis, MO
> Happy happy joy joy...happy happy joy joy...
> Chicago's a long way to go, especially if I'm going to be workin that
> week...but downtown ain't. Yay.
> St. Louis Jammers....can we organize a thingie of some sort before the
> St. L show? Perhaps stop in at Blueberry Hill or Fitz's prior...heh heh.
Hell yeah, let's do it. Fitz's or BH would be a nice, central
location (good record shop nearby, too :). Man, I was just down
there the other night. Anyway, there are a number of places that
would be good (for all ages :) to gather before/after the show.
Get in contact with me or anyone else from the area and we'll get
something going.
Dale R. Newberry
drnewb@spiff.net
"As miserable as life is, I hold it pretty
precious." -Henry Rollins
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:18:20 -0700
From: rjurado <rjurado@eiger.com.ph>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: SoCal Venues
Message-ID: <352AB43B.6B28EF16@globalcafe.com.ph>
Hi...
Any Southern California jammers out there who could tell me about how it
is to see DT at
The Galaxy (Or whatever it's called) or the House O' Blues. Hopefully,
I'll get to see them
there in May.
-Rob
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Date: 07 Apr 1998 10:22:39 +0200
From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
To: bglist@bigfoot.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Blind Guardian stuff
Message-ID: <tkuyaxivy5s.fsf@zussun0.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-shoot-me>
Hi all,
There is a brand new mp3 sound file and also the cover art for the new
Blind Guardian CD on the BG homepage at www.blind-guardian.com. Check
the news section for the relevant links. Thanks.
Jason
-- Jason T. Breitweg Jason.Breitweg@desy.de http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg ICQ# 7495933------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:59:06 EDT From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Internet Radio Message-ID: <79a906b6.3529f8ec@aol.com>
About a two weeks ago I discovered the following site www.hardradio.com I am sure many of you already know about it, but for those of you who don't: It provides a track list (including LTE and Savatage's TWoM) as well as LIVE STREAMING Real Radio. It also has mp3, but I can't seem to get that to work, and yes I have WinAmp. It just downloads a file that I can't figure out how to use. Perhaps someone can help me figure this out. I never claimed to be a computer genius.
What I am also interested in is other internet radio programs that offer a selection of prog, metal, or hard rock. Real radio sucks (and I am in Southern California where their seems to be an assumption that it is some sort of metal promise land. Not from what I have seen.). Okay, please take the time to post to the jam any other live streaming audio internet sites. I see the D-Man post some very happening play lists, but I am assuming that is a local radio station, not internet radio. Am I wrong?
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:16:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: NEVERENDING DREAMS PART 2.2 (Concert reviews on seven German shows, setlists and some extras, the list of songs & samples from , the soundboard) LONG!!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980407121027.12923A-100000@dwarf.studi.unizh.ch>
On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Choon-Kang Walther wrote:
> > Muenster 03-14-98 > ------- > Hall: Big hall again and about 60 miles from the former day apart. > Capacity about 7000, but only some 2500 present. > Sound: Due to the pretty empty hall: echo, hard to mix. The vocals were > loud and the bass pretty persistent with little middle range at > times (keyboards, guitar.) > Light: Same stage as the night before, same light. > Crowd: Got trough to the second row with nothing. Easy. > Extras: Intro: The theme from the TV-series 'The Munsters' cause of the > city's name. > Something was very, very funny just before Take the Time. JLB > almost choked and missed two or three textlines. > During 'Ytsejam' I talked to a about 18 years old guy (with his > girlfriend clinging to him) who said he'd be a drummer. So I > pointed him out to MP for the solo. After that, he and his > girlfriend clung even tighter with glossy eyes. :) > He could keep the pair of sticks. > The girl next to me asked: 'Do you know the drummer?' > 'Well, not really.' > 'Tell him, I also want a drummstick!' > '?!' :) > After me, she approached a local security with the same problem > and a similar turnout, according to her expression. :))) > 'Pull my finger' instead of 'Pull me Under' > Freebird by ???(sorry!) after Take the Time. > > Aftershow: No real aftershow, no passes tonight. Wait at the backentrance > for the dudes who came out, signed and talked. I asked JLB > about this discussion some weeks ago (James smokes). 'Let them > think what they want, if they have fun with it.' Fact is, he > didn't on a one by one approach after a show. > Matthias, the German die-hard fan, brought artificial hair with > him to take a picture with JLB JLB with short, he with long > hair. > > > Berlin 03-15-98 > ------ > Hall: A famous concertadress in Berlin. The hall holds about 2000 > people, nearly sold out, some 1800. Two small tribunes for about 50 (!) people each at the side. > Crowd: Easy, too. > Sound: Good!!!!!!!!!!! > Extras: Mixture between the set 1 & 2. Trial of Tears instead of New > Millenium. No stick in Berlin, and no Nightmare Cinema either, but > over 2 1/2 hours of music. > The lama (MP) spitting all over the place, pooring water over his > head and shook it like a wet dog. > Of course the drumstick-throwing and the small kitt > Aftershow: No aftershow tonight either. Derek took off right after the > show with a blond girl. JLB, JM, JP, Bill (manager) went to > the hotel by cab. > > Berlin day-off > ------ > Yes and Rock Bitch were both (no, not together, that would have been fun > though! :) ) playing in Berlin on monday night. I don't know, who of the > band and of the crew went where, but they had tickets for both. > Me? Berlin, techno capitol!!! (Love Parade ..., checked out some cool > clubs, no kidding, variety rules!) > > Leipzig (03-17-98) > ------- > Hall: Far outside from centre of town, surprisingly nice! (Leipzig is a > city in the former 'East Germany', therefore still rather poor) > compared to the look of the city. A club for about 1000 people > with a seated balcony (closed). > Crowd: Many people just showed up, as it seemed, cause there was a metal > concert (Not particularly because there were DT performing). Very > little merchandise sales tonight. > Extras: A friend got (!) a fotopass, probably wrongly marked on the > guestlist. > Be honest, would you have NOT used it? Well, we did, since noone > stopped me, I took pics the whole show and run into a pretty mad > tourmanager afterwards... I destroyed my three films, which didn't > calm him down either, found a forth one at home with Nicky > Lemmons... > Despite the missing audience reaction: Great show. > Quote MP: 'We had fun tonight!' :) > Quote Lightingenier: 'They did anything, just not by the set.' > Derek ripped of his setlist from the floor once and waved it at MP > who just kept laughing. > NICKY LEMONS BACK ALIVE!!! Announced Kiss-like : 'You want the > best, you got the best! The hottest band in the world!: Nicky > Lemons and the Migraines!!' :))))) > Nicky wore a yellow feather boa around his neck. I'm positiv he'll > set the latest fashion trend with that. :) > > Erlangen (03-18-98) > -------- > Hall: Sort of a townhall, suited for theatres as well as for shows. > capacity about 3000, some 2500 - 2700 present. There was also a > balcony but pretty far back, I didn't go up. A quite high hall. MP > threw up a stick once and showed some surprise about the length of > its flight. > Crowd: Good Crowd, a lot of singing along, particularly I&W recordings. I > met another girl with a majesty tattoo (I still have the nicest > one, according to MP :P). Very comfortable to stand. > Sound: What can I say? DT had the same guy doing this job for years now! > Extras: The last show of the tour, which is famous for a lot of jokes. > > Vanden Plas > - got dinner served on stage > - Derek threw chips with a whipped cream topping, the best shot hit > keyboarder Guenter's back and stuck there > - not to forget: confetti throwing > > A new support band : the 'Sauerkrautband tonight' > performing a Van Halen cover, featuring VP roadies on bass and guitar, DT > roadies on vocals, MP on drums, Nicky Lemons on backing vocals > > Dream Theater: > - Backing vocals by Andy from VP during Hollow Years (He left the stage > after a verse, but MP waved him back) > - 8 small cream toppings on the small drum kitt, as Guenter told me with a > smile. (People only saw MP looking at his drumkitt, taking of his > bathrobe and wiping of the cimbals, checking for the sound, wiping > again...) > - Bananas being handed instead of the drum sticks (for the throwing > between DS and MP, DS missed 2/3ths of the sticks, yet caught both of > the bananas!!!) > - The tourofficials (Bill, tourmanager, the assistant tourmanager and the > boss of Target, the tour company in Germany (?)) marched together across > the stage. James was almost screaming (laughing). > - MP threw a fountain of water at JLB > - JLB carried JP from stage again during the Metropolis solo. > - DT featuring Vanden Plas on instruments for 'One' sung by MP > - Inserts from Led Zeppelin and Lynard Skynard > > Besides of that also some regular songs from the previous DT studio > albums. :))) > Aftershow: Waiting in the hallway, talking to the band, quite a lot > of people present, say goodbye to Vanden Plas. They drunk > sake which I'd broght them some days before on the bus > with JP and MP. I talked to MP and VP bass player Thorsten > about the shirt I was wearing: 1990 tour, Watchtower! > Derek bid two girls goodbye. Quote: 'That's Sherinian.' > Everybody was in a very good mood. MP chatted to people > for at least half an hour. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Songlists > --------- > > Vanden Plas > ----------- > Fire Blossom > Not God > Soul Survives > In You > Crown of Thorns > Rainmaker > You Fly > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Set 1 DT > -------- > Lines in the Sand > ---------- > Burning My Soul > Voices > Under a Glass Moon > Hollow Years (2nd drumm kit) > (keyboard spot) > Crack / Puppies > Just Let Me Breathe > Lie > ---------- > Peruvian Skies > (guitar spot) > Pull Me Under > ACOS IV Winters > Ytse Jam (drum solo) > New Millenium > ---------- > (medley) > Metropolis > Learning To Live > ACOS VII > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Set 2 (DT) > ---------- > ACOS I & II > Just Let Me Breathe > ------- > Burning My Soul > Take The Time / Freebird > Anna Lee (2nd kit) > Hollow Years (2nd kit) > (piano solo - down stage) > Crack / Puppies > Lie > ------- > Peruvain Skies > (guitar solo) > Pull Me Under > ACOS IV Winters > Ytse Jam (drum solo) > New Millenium > Trial Of Tears > ------- > medley: > Metropolis > Learning To Live > ACOS VII Sunset > > - I think, the band went across the setlist every night. The lists were > printed out with the cities name on top. > - They usually change between set 1 & set 2, so you might be able to find > out, what they play in your city. > > Some cities and the setlist: > Lyon: 02-20-98 Set 1 (extra: only Metropolis) > Paris: 02-24-98 Set 1 (+ Nightmare Cinema) > Hannover: 03-07-98 Set 1 > Munich: 03-10-98 Set 1 > Mannheim: 03-11-98 Set 2 > Duesseldorf: 03-13-98 Set 1 > Muenster: 03-14-98 Set 2 (+ 'The Munsters-theme) > Berlin: 03-15-98 Set 1 (Trial Of Tears instead of New Millenium) > Leipzig: 03-17-98 Set 2 (They kicked out ACOS IV and Trial of Tears > for Nicky Lemons) > Erlangen: 03-18-98 Set 1 (?) (+many extras!!!) > Zuerich: 04-01-98 Set 1 > The official soundboard-CD -------------------------- Close My Eyes Raise The Knife Where Are You Now The Way It Used To Be Speak To Me Rooster A Clockwork Orange Lava Lines In The Sand (Intro) ACOS (Intro) (Sn) Metropolis (Intro) (Sn) New Millenium (Intro) (Sn) Under A Frank's Glass Moon (Sn)
> Cheers > Choon-Kang > >
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:29:38 +0200 From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Myung`s bass Message-ID: <3529F202.34592351@stones.com>
Hello jammers!
I have a couple dinaros saved and I though I`d buy myself a 6string bass for experimental purposes(I`m guitarist btw) . I won`t pay 2 grand for 6 string Yamaha, instead I`ll have it built custom at a luthier who will make this bass at a very reasonable price for me (he makes astonishing basses). So basicly all I need are the specifications of the bass. Does anyone know the specifications of Myung`s basses? I`m also wondering what kind of pickups/electronics does he use and how much does it costs? String gauges? Wood? Hardware? And what is the main difference between Tung bass Myung used before and Yamaha he uses now? Is Peavey Minx (30 Watt) a decent bass amp?
Okay, I`m full of questions today..thank you in advance for all the answers!!
Matej
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:07 +0200 From: ASHLEY WONG <ETL.ETLAYWG@mesmtpse.ericsson.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Cozy Powell Message-ID: <199804071207.rHk3@eds.ericsson.se>
--- Received from ETL.ETLAYWG +44-1444-231883 98-04-07 14:07 -> ytsejam(a)ax.com
RE: the late Cozy Powell.
Aww man, I'm sorry to hear about that. Rainbow was one the first metal bands I really got into. His drumming on Rainbow Rising was just vicious, it really made part of the early Rainbow sound along with Dio's vocals.
ash.
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:44:41 MET-2DST From: "Patrick Sebel" <PATRICK@aowserver.phys.tue.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: fan club gig and Empty Tremor Message-ID: <64DEA54B46@aowserver.phys.tue.nl>
Hi,
well, I guess everbody saw the list of new tour dates posted by Mike, and after the Netherlands were skipped so far in this part of the tour, I was very pleased to see that DT will play in the netherlands this time. But the show will be a " "special" fan club gig". What will this mean. I know from a friend about a special fan club concert by Marillion in Utrecht a while ago, where the played only special songs, i.e. songs normally not played live. I guess all dutch fans already saw DT in Den Bosch during the "scratching the surface" tour late 1997 and everybody (I guess) saw at least one show of the pre-FII tour (3 of them). The last show during this tour, DT already played (I believe) TOT for the first time because (as James said) everyone already had seen DT already the night before.
What can we expect?? Just the normal show of this tour, but only tickets are avalaible through the fan club or will it really be a special concert. The first thing that comes to my mind may be playing some songs never played live before (I don't know which songs.... are there any songs never played live before??) or they will play some new songs (Metropolis II......??? hope hope). Well these are just my wildest dreams.....
About the free promo tape of Empty Tremor. Get it!!
I just bought their album Apocolokyntosys and I can only say one thing: great. If you're still waiting for the follow up of I&A: get this CD (or tape) immediately. They surely are infuenced by DT (thanks to Mike and DT in the liner notes). Due to a lack of time I have not listened the whole CD, and I start at the beginning every time because the first three songs are just awesome (worth the price of the whole album). I believe the band still has to grow as every band has to (just look at the difference between the first and second album of DT), but this album is already quite mature (especially for a band averaging 16 years).
Other CD's in my CD player:
-APSOG:Fates Warning (17 april live in Tilburg, I'll be there) -tDWOT: Symphony X (time to buy their latest album, I guess) -LTE: LTE (enough said) -night time birds: the Gathering (currently touring Europe, check them out: www.gathering.nl, they will also play monsters of Rock, Italy with e.g. DT) -everything of DT and Rush.
Patrick
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:11:35 -0400 From: MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca (MacAusland, Robert: HFX) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Calling All Canadian East Coast Jammers Message-ID: <1998Apr07.090217.1255.2242756@msmail.ic.gc.ca>
I know there has to be at least ONE other Canadian, east coast 'jammer out there? (Todd? You still with us? :)
Pondering the upcoming tour dates, NYC is the nearest show.
Hmmm... Roadtrip...
Anyone? Anyone? :-)
R.
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:46:56 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: LTE review/Cozy Powell/Mystic Fishook Message-ID: <352A2E50.334E@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Ryan Park replied:
> Well, it sounds a LOT like other DT albums to me. It seems that Mr. > Shirley mixed John Petrucci so high that it's very dififcult to hear > the other musicians.
Ok, I guess I was a little vague there, what I meant was it didn't really sound like any other DT 'song.' I wasn't referring to the mix of JP/MP but more the actual sounds, the musical content itself, not whether it was identifyable as JP/MP on their respective instruments. I actually recognize all of them. Rudess's patches are undeniably Jordan :) I guess you could say that about many musicians. They all have their own signature sound.
Please point me in the direction of a song on a DT album that sounds familiar. I just don't hear it to that extent.
I'll agree with you that at times it's tough to hear the other musicians, probably Levin more than Rudess. But at other times the mix is just right. Considering Shirley produced DT, it doesn't surpirse me why he mixed them a little higher, though. He fucking loves 'em :)
In any event, I think it's a great disc, and I hope the concept of 'supergroup jams' stays around longer than the reviewer's prediction of doom.
Go back and check out Rudess' mix on TMW. Sounds ok to me :)
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Charlie Farrell wrote:
> Besides Emerson, Lake and Powell, he's remembered (by some > of us) for also playing with Rainbow, Whitesnake, Black Sabbath > and also for his big UK hit single 'Dance with the Devil' - now that > could only have happened in the 70's!!!
I remember him for his work with Jeff Beck. Great drummer and he'll be missed.
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Mystic Fishook - www.mysticfishook.com
Just get the disc :) I don't have time to review it now. I'm still immersed in it too much. Some fantastic prog! Berklee boys, trying to get noticed. Just don't let Mr. Pierce get ahold of the disc. He'll find something wrong with it...
K, here's THE Tour:
Mystic Fishoook LTE Spock's Beard Dream Theater
LTE is second to give JP/MP some time to recover ;)
Regards,
Jon -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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