YTSEJAM Digest 3721
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Metropolis on FAQ
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
2) Has DT Ever Played In ...
by "rob" <chasm@netcom.ca>
3) Re: The Dream Theater/Savatage Connection
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
4) Re: The Dream Theater/Savatage Connection
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
5) Long Distance Runaround
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
6) Conception - Parallel Minds
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
7) DT at Great Woods
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
8) Extreme snippets
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
9) Re: Conception - Parallel Minds
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
10) Re: IDs and such...
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
11) Re: Long Distance Runaround
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
12) Fwd: Important Information/trip story?? no dt
by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
13) Lemmings are cool.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
14) yet another... parody
by "FLuke" <fluke@dmci.net>
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:31:33 -0500
From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Metropolis on FAQ
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980408163133.007bb490@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
this should be part of the FAQ, dont you think?
At 12:18 PM 8/04/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Well, to expand on the Metropolis thread, here are some songs that I'd
>LIKE to hear in the middle of Metro Pt. 1 -
>
>"Satisfaction" by the Stones
>"Stray Cat Strut" by the Stray Cats (Think about this - it'd be
>hysterical)
>The theme to Peter Gunn
>"Sunshine of your Love"
>"Purple Haze"
>"Dazed and Confused"
>"I love Rock 'n' Roll" by Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
>
>Then again, I ate paint chips as a child - what do I know?
>
>Nicholas Giannotti
>"Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool."
>
>
>
--- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:15:44 -0300 From: "rob" <chasm@netcom.ca> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Has DT Ever Played In ... Message-ID: <199804082128.RAA03416@tor-smtp1.netcom.ca>
A friend of mine who I think is either on drugs or is just plain yanking my chain, tells me that DT has played a gig in Halifax, Nova Scotia (That's Canada second most eastern province for those of you scratching your heads :-)
I put it to the Collective - is he right? And if so, *WHEN* did they play here?
Any information would be appreciated.
Rob
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:38:43 EDT From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The Dream Theater/Savatage Connection Message-ID: <4dc76b2f.352bee65@aol.com>
Hi Jammerz -
In YtseJam 3717, Michael Burstin wrote: > Well, got Savatage's The Wake of Magellan today, and although I have > not had a chance to listen to all of it, I saw in the liner notes, in > their "thanks to" section, they thank some band Dream TheatRE... man, > even they got it wrong...
Yeah, I noticed that too. :-) In fact, I was very surprised that they even got a mention in the liner notes since I don't recall any other bands being listed (I could be wrong, though.) Does anyone know what the DT/Tage connection is that would warrant mention in the liner notes? I'm drawing a blank here.
By the way, anyone out there thinking about picking up TWoM, DO IT! It totally rocks!!!
Buh Bye.... Matt T.
NP: TWoM
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:47:23 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The Dream Theater/Savatage Connection Message-ID: <352BF06B.ECE55BFE@caribe.net>
> Yeah, I noticed that too. :-) In fact, I was very surprised that they even > got a mention in the liner notes since I don't recall any other bands being > listed (I could be wrong, though.) Does anyone know what the DT/Tage > connection is that would warrant mention in the liner notes? I'm drawing a > blank here. > > By the way, anyone out there thinking about picking up TWoM, DO IT! It > totally rocks!!! > > Buh Bye.... Matt T. > > NP: TWoM
I dunno .. my guess would be that either theyve done shows together ( i dont know DT's whole tour history) or that since Derek and Al pitrelli are/were in Ethyl Mertz together.. well.. --
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:03:16 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Long Distance Runaround Message-ID: <01BD62FF.79A28B00.aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
I dunno, people sure are doing a lot of complaining about the dates. I remember back on the Awake tour that DT promised another summer U.S. tour, and that Fates mentioned coming back "in the spring" with a full-length show. Neither happened. I think that they are doing a few more shows before the DT/DP/ELP (now known as the "Deet-Deep-Elp" tour) is a nice thing. And for those complaining about "us lousy californians" -- I will be driving 300+ miles to see DT iin Los Angeles and I live in California. It's a big place. I guess we're just used to driving more. :) 300 miles to see DT on 3 nights in a row doesn't seem like a big thing to me, especially since it looks like I can miss classes on those days without a big mess.
~Chris
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:29:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Conception - Parallel Minds Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980408172649.5022A-100000@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>
I just got Conception's "Parallel Minds" and was wondering if anyone knows why there are lyrics in the liners to a song that's not even on the disc (not to mention that the lyrics are completely out of order with regards to the actual track listing). This isn't a complaint...just a curiosity...
-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | rctaylor@uiuc.edu Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:32:36 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com> Cc: bostonjam@dreamt.org Subject: DT at Great Woods Message-ID: <352BFB04.2781@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Art Ellis indicated:
> They'll be playing Great Woods. It was in the Paper, I believe they said > August 8th was the tentative date.
Yeah, I caught that on bostonjam, but I've yet to see it on the Great Woods' site. Are they just slow, or do they wait till dates are confirmed on there? When do tickets go on sale, or have they already?
Regards,
Jon -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 18:46:09 -0400 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Extreme snippets Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980408184609.006b081c@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Hey, Extreme stuff! I can deal with this.
Jeff remarked: >>* Some B-52's song > I believe the B-52's song is "Rock Lobster." Please correct me if >I'm wrong.
You're not. They played "Rock Lobster" as part of it during the show here in Atlanta (natch), since the B-52's were from Athens, which isn't far from Atlanta.
>I >believe Extreme's "Cupid's Dead" has been played in it. I thought that was >the song that has become a regular part of it, but, after watching the >Milan '97 video recently, I'm not sure if it really is "Cupid's Dead."
I don't know for certain if it's part of every performance, but I remember several posts from the previous US tour that remarked that they'd heard it. I think it was played at the Atlanta show, but I don't remember (that's weird, considering how keen I am about Extreme stuff generally).
Alan remarked: >Mike Mangini was the one who played drums with Vai on the G3 tour, this guy >can really play...the good thing about this guy is that he can play as left >handed and right handed....you can listen to him on the extreme album >"Waiting For The Punchline".
Yeah, he's an impressive drummer, but he didn't play on most of "Waiting for the Punchline". Mangini only played on "Hip Today" and "Leave Me Alone"; the rest of the tracks had drums from the previous drummer, Paul Geary.
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Yanni -- "Live at the Acropolis"
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:54:56 +1000 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Conception - Parallel Minds Message-ID: <352C0040.B6772456@sydney.net>
Robert Taylor wrote: > I just got Conception's "Parallel Minds" and was wondering if anyone knows > why there are lyrics in the liners to a song that's not even on the disc > (not to mention that the lyrics are completely out of order with regards > to the actual track listing). This isn't a complaint...just a > curiosity...
The only thing I can think of is that the lyrics to 'Black On Black' are a 'bonus' track from the Japanese version of the CD which were mistakenly printed in the booklet. Both of the other Conception CD's I have are Japanese and they have bonus tracks that are not listed on the liner.
graham
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:38:08 -0400 From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: IDs and such... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980408193808.007eca90@mindspring.com>
> It shouldn't be that surprising that many members of this list >don't have fake ID's. Many cities rarely have 21+ shows. As far as >drinking is concerned, no one needs a fake ID to get alcohol. And I >wouldn't doubt that many listmembers, like me, are not part of the >"social," "club-hopping" hordes of college students (they are obviously >more distinguished than that).
Hehe. It wasn't meant to be a flame or putdown to anyone, I'm just saying what I've observed. I will admit, I do live in a college town, but even when I'm in Atlanta I've noticed most people under 21 do have some form of ID. I find it interesting that you appear to consider folks who enjoy going out to be less than "distinguished." If wanting to meet new people, see bands at 21+ shows, and just have a good time out on the town with your friends makes me "undistinguished," I guess I'm guilty as charged (though I'm 21 now and don't need the ID). Maybe you should try it sometime - might loosen you up a bit... :) Take care...
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpineone(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 9382967 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone/tapelist.html ^ Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:06:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Long Distance Runaround Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980408170625.10068A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Chris Oates wrote:
>before the DT/DP/ELP (now known as the "Deet-Deep-Elp" tour) is a nice
"Deet-Deep-ELP"? Isn't that what the Roadrunner always says?
--Matt
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:07:28 -0700 From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fwd: Important Information/trip story?? no dt Message-ID: <Version.32.19980408200650.00f333c0@pop.mindspring.com>
>To: ibizabar@mindspring.com >From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> >Subject: Fwd: Important Information > >>To: vaiman@mindspring.com >>From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> >>Subject: Fwd: Important Information >> >> >>>A serious story...content may shock >>> >>> This story came from the "DailyTexan" - the University of Texas >>> newspaper. >>> Apparently it occurred during Fall Premier-a Uni tradition that is a >>> celebration of the end of midterms. >>> >>> "Reason to not party anymore"- >>> >>> This guy went out last Saturday night to a party. He was having a good >>> time, had a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited >>> him to go to another party. He quickly agreed and decided to go along with >>> her. >>> >>> She took him to a party in some apartment and they continued to drink, >>> and even got involved with some other drugs (unknown which). The next >>> thing he knew, he woke up completely naked in a bathtub filled with ice. >>> >>> He was still feeling the effects of the drugs, but looked around to see he >>> was alone. He looked down at his chest, which had: >>> >>> "CALL 911 OR YOU WILL DIE" written on it in lipstick. He saw a phone >>> was on a stand next to the tub, so he picked it up and dialed. He >>>explained >>> to the EMS operator what the situation was and that he didn't know where >>> he was, what he took, or why he was really calling. >>> >>> She advised him to get out of the tub. He did, and she asked him to look >>> himself over in the mirror. He did, and appeared normal, so she told him >>> to check his back. He did, only to find two 9 inch slits on his lower >>>back. >>> She told him to get back in the tub immediately, and they sent a rescue >>> team over. >>> >>> Apparently, after being examined, he found out more of what had >>> happened. His kidneys were stolen. >>> They are worth 10,000 dollars each on the black market. (I was unaware >>> this even existed.) Several guesses are in order: The second party was >>> a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical >>> students, and it was not just recreational drugs he was given. >> >> Regardless, he is currently in the hospital on life support, awaiting a >>> spare kidney. The University of Texas in conjunction with Baylor >>>University >>> Medical Center is conducting tissue research to match the sophomore >>> student with a donor. >>> >>> I wish to warn you about a new crime ring that is targeting business >>> travelers. This ring is well organized, well funded, has very skilled >>> personnel, and is currently in most major cities and recently very active >>>in >>> New Orleans. >>> >>> The crime begins when a business traveler goes to a lounge for a drink at >>> the end of the work day. A person in the bar walks up as they sit alone >>> and offers to buy them a drink. The last thing the traveler remembers until >>> they wake up in a hotel room bath tub, their body submerged to their neck >>> in ice, is sipping that drink. There is a note taped to the wall
>>>instructing >>> them not to move and to call 911. A phone is on a small table next to the >>> bathtub for them to call. The business traveler calls 911 who have become > >>> quite familiar with this crime. The business traveler is instructed by the >>> 911 operator to very slowly and carefully reach behind them and feel if >>> there is a tube protruding from their lower back. The business traveler >>> finds the tube and answers, "Yes." The 911 operator tells them to remain >>> still, having already sent paramedics to help. The operator knows that both >>> of the business traveler's kidneys have been harvested. >>> >>> This is not a scam or out of a science fiction novel, it is real. It is >>> documented and confirmable. If you travel or someone close to you >>> travels, please be careful. >>> >>> Sadly, this is very true. My husband is a Houston Firefighter/EMT and they >>> have received alerts regarding this crime ring. It is to be taken very >>> seriously. The daughter of a friend of a fellow firefighter had this happen >>>to >>> her. >>> >>> Skilled doctor's are performing these crimes! >>> (which, by the way have been highly noted in the Las Vegas area). >>> Additionally, the military has received alerts regarding this. >>> This story blew me away. >>> >> >> I really want as many people to see this as possible so please >>> bounce this to whoever you can. >>> >>> Michele Shafer - DML/Lab Administration >>> Medical Manager Research & Development >>> 15151 N.W. 99th Street >>> Alachua, Florida 32615 >>> Tel. (904) 462-2148 >>> Fax (904) 462-1505 >>> >>> Is this not one of the scariest things you have ever heard of? >>> >>> PLEASE forward this to everyone you know >> >>> >>> >>>
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:39:59 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Lemmings are cool. Message-ID: <01bd6350$066bbf20$180d84d0@korgx3>
>Well, to expand on the Metropolis thread, here are some songs that I'd >LIKE to hear in the middle of Metro Pt. 1 -
I'd like to see James and Derek caress each other and sing "If I Close My Eyes Forever." I bet James can do some pretty good Ozzy faces.
>From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
<script="Absolute rediculous rant"> If you don't stop posting so damn much, I'm gonna drive down to Mexico and feed you Alka Seltzer until stomach acid comes out your ears and beat you with a rubber hose until your skin bursts open and gangrene starts to rot your extremeties. After that, I'll serate what's left of your flesh and rub pine tree air fresheners over the cuts. If you've got so much to say, clip the damn reply crap and dump it all in one post. </script>
I'll even hang one off your mirror for ya, too. :) --KorgX3
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:55:56 -0400 From: "FLuke" <fluke@dmci.net> To: "Ytse" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: yet another... parody Message-ID: <01bd6352$41738600$58bdfecd@cray-t3d>
though i haven't really been reading the jams lately, i don't know how to end this sentence. anyway:
Lines In Your Hand
Sometimes, in our ignorance And the knowledge, we're craving We'll take what we can get Sometimes those, who think the world is flat They must believe in something 'Cause that's all that they've known
Mystic bias, halted thought Ancient knowledge, magic sought Honored practice, forecast bought
You've an atrophied mind (You've an atrophied mind) Ideology's canned (Ideology's canned) For prediction you've tried (For prediction you've tried) Reading lines in your hand
Sometimes, when the stars are just right You can be a part-time prophet And sometimes you turn out right Sometimes, you forget the times you miss And the evidence, against you Focus on the few hits
Sacred methods, doubt is bad Pseudoscience, claim is fact No credentials, lots of tact
Facts won't damage your pride (Facts won't damage your pride) Doubting ones you can't stand (Doubting ones you can't stand) You'll keep reading the skies (You'll keep reading the skies) And the lines in your hand
You live for superstitions And keep your aura clean Align your soul with magnets And analyze your dreams There must be something to it Your psychic friend said so You really wish you knew it When kitty had to go
In your jumbled consciousness Truth's the same as lying Thinking comes much easier When you give in To science
Sometimes, when your belief's at stake You try to ignore reality Have faith for its own sake Sometimes you believe in the power of words That they're more than simply symbols But you know it's absurd
Sometimes you find life in the cards And think it changes something Like all those other tards Sometimes you forget you decide What paths you should be taking The direction of your life
Thoughts and facts may collide (Thoughts and facts may collide) But truth you won't demand (But truth you won't demand) Thinking you need a guide (Thinking you need a guide) Reading lines in your hand
rI=, carry on _ - _ \|_/ [pardon my english, i'm american] fluke@dmci.net /|\|/|\ _I__ FLuke's Stuff: http://www2.dmci.net/users/fluke \|/Y\|/ === This Neverworld that you desire is only in your mind ~ - ~ btw, there should be @least 2 more on the way. all FII for reasons unknown
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