YTSEJAM Digest 3723
Today's Topics:
1) Re: EVH (NDTC!!!!!)
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
2) Re: EVH
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
3) Re: VanHalen III
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
4) Conception - Bonus tracks
by Chris Livingstone <chris.livingstone@wolfson.co.uk>
5) Re: Conception - Bonus tracks
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
6) The House that Jack Built? Cool name
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
7) RE: Fates Warning Playlist-NDTC
by Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
8) 300 miles too far?!?!?
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
9) DT in NYC?
by "Pasqual Zottola" <pasqualz@hotmail.com>
10) Mike Mangini, kidney theft (yeah, whatever)
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
11) Galaxy
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
12) DT RARE MP3s
by YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org>
13) Iowa DTers
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
14) Re: Savatage
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
15) Midwest DTers
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
16)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
17) Parallel Minds liner notes
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@MAILA.WM.EDU>
18) Re: Threads
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
19) Re: Mike Mangini, kidney theft (yeah, whatever)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
20) Attention Texas 'Jammers!
by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:51:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: EVH (NDTC!!!!!)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980409064535.20707B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Since Graham was talking about EVH...this reminded me of something I
wanted to share. I recently aquired VH III, my first listen I was very
unhappy...me being a HUGE Extreme fan, and a HUGE fan of Gary's abilities.
I'm not upset at his performance though as much as I am at the
songwriting. Eddie has some MEAN licks on this album...Killer work...Alex
has soem AWESOME grooves...and Gary has some excellent notes ta hit (Sorry
Mike just never appealed to me)...but the songwriting doesn't seem very
well structured. I mean, where the hell was the producer on this album???
I'm not trying to start a flame here...I DO like the album...it's a
keeper, but maybe it could use a bit of Terry Brown or Kevin Shirley to
help it a bit.
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:16:34 EDT
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: EVH
Message-ID: <18ccc0d1.352cbc24@aol.com>
it's nice to know i'm loved by ALL jammers!!
i love you too grrrrrrrahm
maybe i'm not worthy to lick EVH's boots, but why the hell would i want to?
I'm not the kinda person who worships other people, and i don't think of
someone as a legend because he takes credit for something invented by a
bassplayer, and is about as overrated as George Lynch (ouch i'm gonna get some
flames for that one), don't get me wrong i like some of his solo stuff, but
his dokken stuff was major guitar wankery.
and me? a waste of bandwidth? maybe, actually most likely. but then again, who
cares? every group of people need thier wastes of bandwidth, and hell, maybe
someday i'll create my own bandwidth to waste, but until then, .. ah hell,
nobody read this post this far, so i might as well just stop typeing now....
Rocky
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:18:40 EDT
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: VanHalen III
Message-ID: <46ac31dd.352cbca5@aol.com>
if you ask me, they should ditch EVH and get nuno to play, now that is one
fucking AWESOME guitar player, but then again i guess it would be just like
Extreme. but with a better drummer.
Rocky
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:28:44 +0100
From: Chris Livingstone <chris.livingstone@wolfson.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Conception - Bonus tracks
Message-ID: <352CBEFB.CA0F2CB7@wolfson.co.uk>
>
>
> Both of the other Conception CD's I have are Japanese and they have
> bonus tracks that are not listed on the liner.
>
>
Didn't know about this, Conception are one of my faves. Are the bonus tracks any
good, also has anyone wondered why the Japanese always get the bonus tracks ?
Cheers
Chris
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:59:43 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Conception - Bonus tracks
Message-ID: <352CC63F.1B24AA25@sydney.net>
Chris Livingstone wrote:
> Didn't know about this, Conception are one of my faves. Are the bonus tracks any
> good, also has anyone wondered why the Japanese always get the bonus tracks ?
In Japan, being a huge market that it is, imports are generally cheaper
than
the domestic releases, so to get the Japanese people to buy the local
discs
they generally put on an extra track or 2 to give them an incentive to
pay the extra money for the CD. For the same reason alot of CD's are
released
in Japan before the rest of the world.
As for the bonus tracks on Conception CD's
'In Your Multitude' has one, that isn't listed anywhere on the CD or
liner
so I have no idea of what it is called.
'Flow' has a killer bonus song called 'Hand On Heart' which is my fave
on the CD.
graham
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:04:18 -0400
From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The House that Jack Built? Cool name
Message-ID: <4AA929543BC8D111A4E800600808ACE50CAE6F@HAMSXHA2>
Anyways, he wrote...
> I don't know if the bass thread is dead, but I saw Incubus the
other
>night, and the bassist had a great sound. He was using Warwick basses
through
>Eden amplification. Everything was crisp, and he and the drummer were
really
>tight. I myself am an Ampeg man, but to each his own.
The bass thread is NEVER dead, man. :)
While I'm not a Warwick man myself (I played a five string the other day
- they wanted $2000 used for it, and the neck was like I was playing an
unfinished 2x4), they DO have a nice sound. The Tobias Renegade on the
wall was a much better-playing instrument, and cheaper, too.
Eden amplification is the way to go, though, as far as I'm concerned
(but, as Jack said, to each his own).
For anyone looking into new bass amps, Eden (whose founder used to work
for SWR, btw) is coming out with a new line of amplification called
'Nemesis', which, according to the redneck at E.U. Wurlitzer, is
supposed to be somewhat cheaper than the stuff he's coming out with now.
I'm interested to take a look at this, because I'm not QUITE ready to
spend $1600 on the Eden Bass Head that I want (but DAMN, does it sound
good!). Plus, they look like something off of the bridge of Deep Space
Nine. You can't beat that. All you need now is Avery Brooks driving the
butler from Benson around in a white Mercedes and you're all set.
>Anybody know when the Myung Yamaha bass will hit stores?
I can try and find out - I have a friend who works for a music store
that deals with all the Yamaha high-end stuff down in MD, and he's
coming up to visit tonight. I'll ask him to let me know as soon as he
finds out.
Nicholas Giannotti
"Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool."
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:35:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Fates Warning Playlist-NDTC
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980409103126.32690E-100000@archa12.cc.uga.edu>
> Subject: Fates Warning Playlist - NDTC
> Message-ID: <352C23E8.9B6D1A08@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
>
> some news, which might be interessting for the european jammers:
> According to Marc Zonder, Fates Warning will play two sets every night
> on their european tour. The first set contains the entire "Pleasant
> Shade Of Gray"-CD, the second the following songs: "The Ivory Gate Of
> Dreams", "The 11th Hour", "Point Of View", "Monument", "At Fates Hands"
> (!!!!), "Prelude To Ruin" (!!!!!!!!!!) and "We Only Say Godbye".
> Unfortunaly. "Guardian", "The Apparition", "Life In Still Water" are
> missing, but you can't have everything.
> Second guitarrist will be Bernie Versye, a former member of speed
> metal-heroes Agent Steel (by the way, if someone wants to sell the
> "Unspoppable Force"-CD, please let me know), who has also done some
> leads on the last Steel Prophet CD. The keyboarder still has to be
> named.
GET THOSE CAMERAS ROLLING PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matt Smith
ktulu@arches.uga.edu
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:46:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 300 miles too far?!?!?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980409103514.6904A-100000@thunder>
I am glad I *only* have to drive 350 miles to see DT! (actually.. if I
attend a Philly show i believe its closer to 290 miles). I still wish
they'd play the Crowbar in State College <<hint hint>>. Another plug:
Bryce Jordon Center on your larger tour :).
An interesting story for the Phish fans... before their show last Autumn,
the members went out to the Cafe 210 to watch another band perform.
Several times that evening they bought rounds of drinks for EVERYONE in
the bar! Several of my friends were there <lucky bastards!>.
-Ponte
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:17:01 PDT
From: "Pasqual Zottola" <pasqualz@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT in NYC?
Message-ID: <19980409151702.17734.qmail@hotmail.com>
Has anyone seen official confirmation of DT playing at Irving Plaza? By
official, I mean from Ticketmaster's website, or from calling Irving
Plaza. I haven't been able to get this confirmed, but I hope I'm getting
bad info and other jammers have the date confirmed. Anyone know for sure
what's going on with DT in NY?
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:22:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Mike Mangini, kidney theft (yeah, whatever)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980409111139.10767D-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
I wrote:
> > Yeah, he's an impressive drummer, but he didn't play on most of "Waiting
> > for the Punchline". Mangini only played on "Hip Today" and "Leave Me
> > Alone"; the rest of the tracks had drums from the previous drummer, Paul
> > Geary.
and promptly got corrected by Richie (and Jeff, and Raitz :) ). Yes, I
know, I know. I forgot that Mike played on "No Respect" too. That's what I
get for not checking for asterisks closely enough. I had a nagging feeling
that I'd missed something and checked the disc list again ten minutes
later. Was too lazy to correct myself; I should have known I'd get called
on it. :)
Paul remarked:
> Sorry, Vaiman, that long post about kidney theft is a hoax (and a
> waste of Jam-space, too). There are several variations of this story,
> one involving hapless US servicemen, another involving young adults
> out at clubs who get drunk. This is a neet urban myth, but myth it
> is. (As you can see, it's an older hoax now, too.)
Thanks, Paul. Now maybe people will STOP sending that one around. It's
older than that, actually, I remember reading about it as far back as
1993. :)
Ta,
Phil
=====================================================================
Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal)
Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
-- Berthold Auerbach
Currently playing: Gary Hoey -- "Animal Instinct"
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:32:28 -0600
From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Galaxy
Message-ID: <001b01bd6495$f74f0e60$382746cf@sir.micron.net>
>Attention jammers going to the Galaxy and House of Blues gigs:
>
>1 - Have you been able to get tickets yet?
>2 - Let me know if you are going. I'd like to meet some of you guys/girls.
>I'm sure I've stood by you at previous DT gigs without even knowing it.
>Just make sure you get out of my way when the line lets in. I haven't
really >met anyone on the jam in person yet, so I am at a disadvantage
here.
Do you know if the Galaxy is 21+ or not? I was going to drive the 16 hours
to LA, but the house of blues is 21+. Is the Galaxy? If it's not I might
meet you over there. We should get all the AZ jammers to join us too.
Get high on ether when there's no one in the house.
Pretend it's the big one the moment you pass out.
That's just rehearsal, but it's comforting somehow
To practice dying now.
woot™
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:45:04 -0400
From: YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT RARE MP3s
Message-ID: <352CED00.3FDEE590@DreamT.org>
> Im looking for the b-sides (demos and unreleased songs)
> please let me know.
well, one place to look is my FTP site
just go to the index --->
http://ytsejam.hartford.edu/ftp.htm
sometimes the site is down and i have to reset it
so please be patient....Thanks!
get them while you can, cause it will be gone in a months time
~YtseJim
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:13:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Iowa DTers
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.980409111046.38394A-100000@yellow.weeg.uiowa.edu>
>Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:46:53 -0500
>From: "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: DTer's from Iowa
>Message-ID: <352C288D.A9BB62F2@netins.net>
>I'm planning on going to Chicago to see DT on the 13th. I live in Ames
>which is 35 miles north of Des Moines on Interstate 35. Is there anyone
>else in this area planning on going?
>tk
Right here man, I'm from the Cedar Rapids area and I'm definitely
goin.
-Frantz-
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:02:10 -0400
From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Savatage
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980409130210.007b8100@mindspring.com>
>I discovered Savatage when the "Hall of the Mountain King" video came out. I
>was full on into Savatage until I discovered DT (who else discovered DT
>because of a Guitar World review of IAW describing DT as a progressive fan's
>whet dream? How could you not run out and get it after hearing this?). Then
>I really got into DT and kind of stopped listening to Savatage. It wasn't
>until I went to MI when my roommate played Savatage all the time that I
>rediscovered them. In turn, I helped him discover DT. DT-Savatage: ya just
>can't separate them.
Hrmph. I really need to check these guys out. I bought Streets a year
ago, or so, but when my 100 disc CD case was accidentally tossed out by
family members (as well as the face to my Alpine CD player, among other
things) I had only listened to it a couple of times. I didn't particularly
like the very gravelly voice of the vocalist (forgive my ignorance, I don't
know his name), but with all the raving about them here I figured I might
as well try them again. Anyone have MP3 samples (or better yet, full
songs) of their stuff? If anyone could point me in that direection I'd
appreciate it much. Take care all...
__________________________________________________
Adam Pye
alpineone(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 9382967
http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone/tapelist.html
^ Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 12:19:10 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Midwest DTers
Message-ID: <352d030e4675002@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
If anybody is going to the Chicago show and is willing to give me a ride from
Minneapolis, MN, drop me a line. I'll chip in gas money, of course.
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:20:21 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <199804091720.NAA22103@ren.cs.wm.edu>
Alex (the chick :) wrote:
> >the Nuno show was in a bar called Sneakers, the G3 tour was at the sunken
> >gardens as DT is listed.
>
> Whoa, that's freaky. We have a place on our campus called the Sunken
> Gardens. I doubt they'd ever have a significant concert there though.
Yeah, all we get is crappy washed-up ska bands out on the Garden. It's
sickening. At radio meetings, we occasionally talk about what kind of bands
we'd like to see here (on the W&M campus). The consensus always seems to be
1) DJ's, 2) "indie rock" bands from DC, or 3) ska bands. *gag*
Don't worry, Alex, at least we're only an hour from Norfolk or Richmond, and 2
and change from DC.
Musically suffocating,
-d
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http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:22:13 -0400
From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@MAILA.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Parallel Minds liner notes
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980409132213.00746378@maila.wm.edu>
I don't know why they have the songs all out of order in the notes; I
noticed that too. And that "extra" track has always bugged me. If anyone
has an idea... I think there was even one song ON the CD that wasn't
mentioned in the liner notes.
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:33:19 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Threads
Message-ID: <199804091733.NAA22151@ren.cs.wm.edu>
Jack built the following house...
> Cobra is already working on Yt-serpentor: combining DNA of various 'Jammers.
> Merlo's is used for family values and graduate eduacation, Eckie's is used for
Family values?!? Clearly you've mistaken me for someone who earns enough to
be a Republican. :)
Back to stealing kidneys...
-d
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cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:41:22 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Mike Mangini, kidney theft (yeah, whatever)
Message-ID: <199804091741.NAA22186@ren.cs.wm.edu>
Phil dreamed:
> Thanks, Paul. Now maybe people will STOP sending that one around. It's
> older than that, actually, I remember reading about it as far back as
> 1993. :)
Yeah, right. :) It's merely going to get mutated over and over again just
like every other hoax out there today.
IF YOU RECEIVE E-MAIL WITH THE WORDS "Good Times!" IN THE SUBJECT, DO NOT OPEN
IT! YOUR COMPUTER WILL BE INFECTED WITH THE "Good Kidneys!" VIRUS. IT WILL
ERASE YOUR HARD DRIVE, STEAL YOUR KIDNEYS, AND SEND PORN FROM YOUR E-MAIL
ACCOUNT TO ihatefeds@fbi.gov!! YOUR COMPUTER WILL WAKE UP IN A BATHTUB FULL
OF ICE, WHICH IS BAD, 'CAUSE IT'S ELECTRIC.
SEND THIS TO 8,423 PEOPLE *TODAY* OR YOU WILL NEVER AGAIN GET LUCKY WITH
WOMEN! THIS LETTER ORIGINATED IN THE JUNGLES OF WISCONSIN! A WOMAN FROM
TENNESSEE WAS KILLED BECAUSE SHE IGNORED A TRAFFIC LIGHT! DON'T BE NEXT!
Hiding under the bed,
-d
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d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:17:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Attention Texas 'Jammers!
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.980409131357.19505A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>
Hi, remember me? I'm that weird parakeet living in Houston, Tx. I
haven't posted in a while, but I've been pretty much keeping up with
things, especially DT in Texas!! Woo! I'd like to propose a solution to
all the TX jammers (and 'jammers coming to tx from out of town) on how to
get together, find crashing places, etc.
I've set up a guestbook on my Web page for everyone to list their e-mail,
web site, location, shows attending, whatnot. There's also a place for
comments. I've heard ppl say they may want to meet up in the West end of
Dallas before that show or maybe somewhere downtown for Houston.
Anyways, the page is http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039/dt.html
Looking forward to hearing from all of you, and let's get the Texas
'Jammers going like the Cali Crew! ;)
-Nicole
Nicole Stachowicz McWatters : Assistant Editor of Dateline
Kirby on irc.dreamt.org : a student publication of the
Undergrad Professional Writing Major : University of Houston-Downtown
stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu -or- ytsekirby@geocities.com
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039
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