YTSEJAM Digest 3724
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3723
by DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
2) EVH (Extreme Van Halen :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
3) NIU Course
by someone@prognosis.com
4) re: DT regionals
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
5) Re: EVH (Extreme Van Halen :)
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
6) Re: Midwest DTers
by AL <al@isd.net>
7) Re: Sava TheatRE
by "Tim Green" <boomer@visi.net>
8) BAH!
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
9) Savatage - The Wake of Magellan (NDTC)
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
10) Re: Galaxy
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
11) Re: Savatage - The Wake of Magellan (NDTC)
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3723
by Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>
13) Re: Parallel Minds liner notes
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
14) Tower Records
by ClPuritan <ClPuritan@aol.com>
15) Eden, Mustaine, Friedman, and Kenny G.
by Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>
16) Tower Records
by ClPuritan <ClPuritan@aol.com>
17) Re: BAH!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
18) Re: EVH (Extreme Van Halen :)
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
19) Savatage Incense
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:47:47 EDT
From: DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3723
Message-ID: <7dfc241.352d17d5@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-09 14:35:01 EDT, you write:
<< Do you know if the Galaxy is 21+ or not? I was going to drive the 16 hours
to LA, but the house of blues is 21+. Is the Galaxy? If it's not I might
meet you over there. We should get all the AZ jammers to join us too. >>
The Galaxy is all ages.
~ESH~
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 19:19:22 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: EVH (Extreme Van Halen :)
Message-ID: <352D1F3A.1CFB@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> if you ask me, they should ditch EVH and get nuno to play, now that is one
> fucking AWESOME guitar player, but then again i guess it would be just like
> Extreme. but with a better drummer.
> Rocky
Nuno is busy recording a quadruple CD with QR at the moment, but I'm
sure he'd be happy to entertain the idea :)
-- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*------------------------------
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:51:57 +0000 From: someone@prognosis.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NIU Course Message-ID: <199804091948.OAA22724@wheat.farm.niu.edu>
The end of the world is upon us all.
Maddy just showed me an ad in our school paper for a class (which is in the course catalog, so it's legit) in music appreciation. This class differs from the music appreciation class I took last semester, in content, not in course number (meaning, I don't think I could benefit from taking this one, since I got an A in the other one). This course focuses on Progressive and Fusion music! The description mentioned "The music of Queensryche, Dream Theater, ELP, Pat Metheny" etc!!! Can you believe this? In as state school!!! I could SHOOT myself for taking Music220 when I did!
Chris Ptacek someone@prognosis.com http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice! "The Dude Abides."
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:18:11 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: DT regionals Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980402161811.367708e8@pop.ici.net>
>Looking forward to hearing from all of you, and let's get the Texas >'Jammers going like the Cali Crew! ;)
Texas Jammers, Cali Crew.....you forgot the most important regional DT group...
the BostonJammers. :)
Cali Crew definitely has the best name though. Now all the DT Region Legions are going to have to come up with cooler names. :)
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________ E-mail: (psull)-(at)-(ici)-(dot)-(net) IRC: DDictator WWW: http://www.just-like.nu/ NP: Removed because Jon Kretchmer said so. ______________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:26:48 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: EVH (Extreme Van Halen :) Message-ID: <5daaeebe.352d2f0a@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-09 16:24:22 EDT, you write:
<< Nuno is busy recording a quadruple CD with QR at the moment, but I'm sure he'd be happy to entertain the idea :) >>
are you serious?????? if QR gets nuno to record some guitar tracks hell i'll start listening to them again.
Rocky
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:38:23 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Midwest DTers Message-ID: <352D31BE.47A7BEF8@isd.net>
Brian wrote > If anybody is going to the Chicago show and is willing to give me a ride from > Minneapolis, MN, drop me a line. I'll chip in gas money, of course.
> -Brian Brian, I live in Oakdale, it's just 8 miles east of St. Paul. I am seriously considering making the trip to Chicago. If you wish, you can go to my web page and retrieve my phone number. I would prefer that you contact me by telephone on this subject. I also plan an having a few people with me as well.
-- See ya, AL...
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:18:25 -0400 From: "Tim Green" <boomer@visi.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Sava TheatRE Message-ID: <01bd63fd$088ee4a0$56c5f6ce@boomer.visi.net>
>In a message dated 98-04-08 21:08:31 EDT, Matt T. pondered: > ><< Does anyone know what the DT/Tage connection is that would warrant mention >in the liner notes? >> > >Hey, I'm only guessing here. >1) I just saw a post by Derek Sherimean :) on the AOL Savatage message board >that said - "Al Pitrelli rules". > >2) The connection may also be strengthened by the fan base. It is almost a >given that DT fans like Savatage and vice-versa. SO, I am sure that Savatage >gets a lot of fan mail / email mentioning DT. Savatage can almost thank the >DT message boards for the constant mentions of Savatage (free advertising).
I'll take a shot at this one. Al Pitrelli and Sherinian were in Alice Cooper's touring band in the early/mid '90's. I also remember reading something about both guys being in a band called Ethyl Mertz but I have not been able to confirm this yet.
Tim Green boomer@visi.net
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 21:40:41 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: BAH! Message-ID: <352D4059.167E@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Lars wrote:
> fsck, I missed the original posting by MP, but I saw someone reply and say
** Checking /dev/BAH (/ytsejam) OPINIONATED FILE SYSTEM; WRITING SUPPRESSED; Checking an opinionated ytsejam does not produce dependable results.
if you don't know, don't ask :)
JP -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 17:45:52 -0400 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage - The Wake of Magellan (NDTC) Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980409214552.0068a2c8@pop.pipeline.com>
Hey, folks. I would have to give a hearty thumbs-up to this disc! First-rate packaging, and impressive music, this is the best Zak-era 'Tage yet, IMO. I am not going to get into a detailed review, but this is a must-have disc for anyone who has been a fan of Savatage over the years.
The Snob has spoken.
BTW, D, there aren't too many jungles in Wisconsin, at least of the arboral variety...
CD of the Day: Savatage - The Wake of Magellan (shock)
Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
Detroit Red Wings 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions 42-20-15 vs Phoenix Jets
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:06:57 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Galaxy Message-ID: <199804092206.PAA18272@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, "woot" said: > >>Attention jammers going to the Galaxy and House of Blues gigs: >> >>1 - Have you been able to get tickets yet? >>2 - Let me know if you are going. I'd like to meet some of you guys/girls. >>I'm sure I've stood by you at previous DT gigs without even knowing it. >>Just make sure you get out of my way when the line lets in. I haven't >really >met anyone on the jam in person yet, so I am at a disadvantage >here. > >Do you know if the Galaxy is 21+ or not? I was going to drive the 16 hours >to LA, but the house of blues is 21+. Is the Galaxy? If it's not I might >meet you over there. We should get all the AZ jammers to join us too.
No, the galaxy is usually all ages... just do like I do... don't bring an id, grow some facial hair and go "I didn't bring my ID" and stare em down and see what they say... they always let me in... but then, I got the big goatee...
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:25:15 -0300 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Savatage - The Wake of Magellan (NDTC) Message-ID: <352D3CBA.41D12033@caribe.net>
Kevin Madden wrote:
> Hey, folks. I would have to give a hearty thumbs-up to > this disc! First-rate packaging, and impressive music, > this is the best Zak-era 'Tage yet, IMO. I am not going to > get into a detailed review, but this is a must-have disc for > anyone who has been a fan of Savatage over the years. >
It definately is... IMO its 'tages best album to date..from the ones i have of course. ( I only own : streets,edge of thorns, hanful of rain, DWD, and TWOm ) and im not too fond of streets because of jon's singin ( i love his singing on DWD and TWOM but i cant seem to get into his singing on streets) ...still.. i feel this is their best to date or at least from the ones ive heard.. also does the packaging from the US version vary? I have yet to receive the US version.. but the European one had cool pages and stuff like that.. (although since it was tooo thick.. the little clasps in the jewel box fucked up the liner book
still THIS IS A MUST GET
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:30:43 -0500 From: Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3723 Message-ID: <l03130304b152faf88e51@[128.252.105.105]>
Hi,
The list is growing like a big quickly growing thing. Here's the new list:
St Louis DT Jammers: Seth Hatlelid (and girlfriend and 3 friends) <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu> Dale R. Newberry <drnewb@spiff.net> Tom Cox (and girlfriend) <lexine@rollanet.org> NuGgeTMaN (and 5 or so friends) <emoeglin@wezl.org> Mark Kemp <Sunnyde25@aol.com> alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu> James Cooley <beanvet@accessus.net> Dave Gonzales <dgonzale@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
I want to let you guys know that I'm out of town for the next three days, so I won't post an update until monday morning, but do keep those names coming.
Related questions: Is anyone still interested in making a DT. banner for the show?
(for Mike Portnoy) Are any of the guys planning on doing any clinics while in town? Last year I saw John P. and Derek at McMurray music and I'd like to meet the guys again.
(for Mike again) Feel like stopping in for a brew at Fitz's? ;-)
Have a good one guys, Seth
Seth Hatlelid srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu
Check out my web page at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~srhatlel/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow?"
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:44:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Parallel Minds liner notes Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980409174210.7613C-100000@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Alex O'Connell wrote: > has an idea... I think there was even one song ON the CD that wasn't > mentioned in the liner notes.
I thought this at first too, but look carefully at the bottom of one of the columns and you'll see the song "Silver Shine" (I think that's the title...I don't have the disc with me so I could be completely wrong about the title).
-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | rctaylor@uiuc.edu Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:44:36 EDT From: ClPuritan <ClPuritan@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: <6bb99629.352d4f56@aol.com>
Hey Jammers,
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:46:35 -0500 From: Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Eden, Mustaine, Friedman, and Kenny G. Message-ID: <l03130305b152fca5f319@[128.252.105.105]>
Hi,
I'm a VERY happy Eden user and would be quite happy to recommend the stuff to anyone thinking about playing bass.
The Nemesis stuff is out. Basically the Nemesis line is a series of smaller, more portable combo amps than the head/cabinet unit. Personally I think that the cabs sound better, but they can be a real pain in the ass to haul around and set up. (I can't fit my entire amp set-up in my honda Civic). The Nemesis are much more affordable than cabs and they sound much better than many of the other combo amps. If you are looking for a great bass amp and you can afford to wait a while save up the cash for an Eden cab system. If you want a cab system bnut don't want to pay that much buy an Eden head and the new Peavey bass cabs (I'm not kidding, these things are amazing. I'd rate the cabs as 95% as good as the Edens at 50% of the price) and go with those. If you still don't want a cab system, get a Nemesis.
The only problem with Eden stuff is that it really spoils you. I HATE playing through any other amps. (why do the vast majority of bass amps sound like you are beating your B string on a chain link fence?-especially Hartke-blech). Seriously, I cringe every time I practice through my friends Fender bass amp-it is just soooo shril compared to the Eden.
Mustaine- I once heard his singing voice compared to a man on the receiving end of a vacume-cleaner enema! Personally, I like his voice, it is quite unique and immediately stamps the music with "Warning-kick ass music by Megadeth ahead!". For those who have seen Megadeth live, you know that, even with his Donald Duck/cartman/Vacume enema voice-no one can command an audience's attention like the Man when he's speaking. Very charismatic guy onstage.
Friedman and Kenny G. These guys are twins seperated at birth-think about it. Same pubic hair on their heads-same "Bruce Willis trademark" facial scruff, same goofy grins, and same pinched chins. Brothers, it has to be.
ta-ta, Seth "I want your kidneys, little man" Hatlelid
Seth Hatlelid srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu
Check out my web page at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~srhatlel/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow?"
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:49:31 EDT From: ClPuritan <ClPuritan@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: <9b3a642f.352d507d@aol.com>
Hey Jammers, I haven't read or posted to the jam in forever, being that I get the jam at my aol account, and that I have been at school. I was just really moved by a Richard Riviera's comment about Tower Records. After he found LTE at Tower Records he proclaimed what a store. Well I too saw LTE at Tower, but I also saw it down the street at Newbury Comics, a small Boston based chain, for a dollar less. When I returned to Tower a few weeks later to browse, I noticed that although they had a LTE divider, there were no CD's. I walked down the street to Newbury Comics and there LTE was. They were having a 3 dollar off sale. So I got the CD for 4 dollars cheaper than I saw it at Tower. Tower Records, a huge chain, gets tons of business, while those in the know shop at Newbury Comics. Just my 2 cents for relatively small business. mark
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:03:43 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: BAH! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980409200211.27850A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jon Parmet wrote:
> Lars wrote: > > > fsck, I missed the original posting by MP, but I saw someone reply and say > > ** Checking /dev/BAH (/ytsejam) OPINIONATED FILE SYSTEM; WRITING > SUPPRESSED; > Checking an opinionated ytsejam does not produce dependable results. > > if you don't know, don't ask :)
Cool. :-)
[]s, Roger...
P.S.: #include <stddisclaimer.h> Flames for my one-liner directed to /dev/null
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 18:24:42 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: EVH (Extreme Van Halen :) Message-ID: <352d58b93589006@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <5daaeebe.352d2f0a@aol.com> from ytsejam@ax.com:
> << Nuno is busy recording a quadruple CD with QR at the moment, but I'm > sure he'd be happy to entertain the idea :) >> > > are you serious?????? > if QR gets nuno to record some guitar tracks hell i'll start listening to > them again. > > Rocky
Does anyone live near enough to this guy to finish that half-done lobotomy that he has?
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 19:30:01 -0300 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage Incense Message-ID: <352D4BE8.AE6904DE@caribe.net>
LOL! Has anyone ordered some savatage incense?? 12 scents to choose from. Each scent comes in a pack of 20 sticks. Choose from Lady In Disguise, Streets, Gutter Ballet, Believe, Alone You Breathe, Edge of Thorns, Mountain King, Wake of Magellan, Starlight, Dead Winter Dead, White Witch, Handful of Rain. $4 plus S+H ($1 USA; $2 elsewhere).
LOL
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