YTSEJAM Digest 3733
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3732
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
2) A Great Prog-Metal Day
by AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
3) Re: Blaze and Maiden
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
4) Re: Nuno <was:EVH (Extreme Van Halen :)>
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
5) re: Tori
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
6) Re: gardens, commutes
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
7) Re: KorgX3rd Reich.
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
8) Re: Alan Estrada, most hated guy on the jam?
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
9) Who's going to Baltimore?
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
10) re: Hot For Teacher
by yzzy <yzzy@earthlink.net>
11) Re: Blaze and Maiden
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
12) No Australian tour!
by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
13) Re: WTF?! and "Humpin' Around"
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
14) DETROIT
by robgaul@juno.com (rob w gaul)
15) mp3
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
16) Printing Co-Op
by advertiser@netsvoice.com
17) Re: Who's going to Baltimore?
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
18) Re: Who's going to Baltimore?
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
19) EVH
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
20) EVH /LaBrie
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:34:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3732
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980411213100.70048A-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Can anyone familiar with the Los Angeles area please email me. I am coming
> out there in June and I'd like to get some info on the tattoo shops in and
> around the Sunset Strip. I'd like to get something done while I'm out there.
Try Sunset Tattoo. It's probably the most famous. It's right on the strip,
or at least little after it (if you're heading east). It has a
heart-shaped sign out front. That's where a lot of rockers in the 80s got
their ink done (Motley Crue comes immediately to mind). In fact, if you
watch the Dr. Feelgood video, you can see a snippet of the Sunset Tattoo
heart-shaped sign burning in flames.
Richie
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:17:31 EDT
From: AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A Great Prog-Metal Day
Message-ID: <16db1b9a.3530243d@aol.com>
Hi all Jammer-type individuals...
I apologize in advance for the tenuous DT connection here, but since I've
noticed that this list also tends to function as a forum for fans of the prog-
metal genre in general, with an emphasis on DT in particular, I thought I'd
share with you the monster take I hauled in at today's record show in Wayne,
New Jersey. This was without a doubt a day spent in prog-metal heaven, thanks
to the fine folks at Sentinel Steel and JART Music.
Things didn't start off particularly well when I saw that Bob Wolf of
"Sights and Sounds," a good friend and excellent source of progressive rock
CDs, was absent from this month's show, as he was from last month's, but I was
pleasantly surprised at the presence of a tall guy in an Angra shirt, standing
behind a table full of *extremely hard to find* progressive metal discs. I
mean, we're talking stuff that I've wanted forever, right there in abundance,
all right there before me: Black Jester, Conception, Kamelot, Elegy, etc.,
etc. I stared in amazement alongside my friend Adam and then dove eagerly into
the bins.
When I came up for air, I clutched the following: Black Jester, "The
Divine Comedy" (a great Italian band that for some reason insists upon keeping
their weak singer, though I'll admit the guy *did* improve considerably on
their last album); Eldritch, "Seeds of Rage" (the bits I heard from this
sounded a lot like DT meets Superior; Sieges Even, "Life Cycle" (one of this
veteran German outfit's older albums, and from what I've read, one of their
best); Skylark, "The Dragon's Secrets" (I'd never heard of this Italian band
before, but was intrigued by the fact that this one's got choirs, harps,
strings and everything including the kitchen sink--no one goes quite as over
the top as Italian proggers, IMO); and Watchtower, "Energetic Disassembly"
(their first album, finally available on CD--happy happy joy joy!). I had
wanted to purchase the two Kamelot albums he had, but held off because I
figured I might find something else I wanted more...
Which I did at JART Music's table: ah, at long last, "Twilight in
Olympus," the newest opus from Symphony X (for my money, the best progressive
metal outfit this side of Dream Theater), and Vanden Plas' "The God Thing,"
which I'd wanted since reading all kinds of wonderful things about their
performances opening up for DT on the European leg of the "Falling Into
Infinity" tour.
I wrapped up my purchases with a very nicely shot Dio video (Philadelphia,
June 15, 1997) and -- YES!! -- the brand new Stratovarius 2-CD live album,
"Visions of Europe," which I got for the unbelievably low price of only $36.00
(a good thing, considering how much I'd already spent at the Sentinel Steel
and JART Music tables!).
It was a very good day, my fellow prog-metal mavens. Just thought I'd
share. Anyone out there familiar with Eldritch and Skylark? I'd like to find
out more about them. Thanks for reading all this, and for any and all
responses.
Take care, everyone...
-- Jeff :^)
NP -- Symphony X, "Twilight in Olympus" (KILLER disc so far...!)
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 12:24:36 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Blaze and Maiden
Message-ID: <353025E4.AFFCEF53@sydney.net>
Christian P Kremo wrote:
> > Why DT chose KJLB as their singer with all the other talent out there
> > I'll never know. The only bigger mystery to me is why Iron Maiden chose
> > Blaze to replafce Bruce.
Andre Matos from Angra also tried out, but it seems that Steve Harris
wanted and got an Englishman.
graham
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:06:23 -0500
From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Nuno <was:EVH (Extreme Van Halen :)>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980410160623.007abe80@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
in fact Nuno is very busy right now, he'll do 2 shows in the next week
somewhere in the UK, he recorded some guitar parts and all the bass played
on suze dimarchi (nuno's wife) new album which is goignt to be released
soon by sony, she was the singer for baby animals....
in one month Nuno will start recording his new solo album, mike mangini
will be recording with him, it seems that this album is going to be less
alternative, more heavy and funky...still with vocals i think.
At 07:31 PM 9/04/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 98-04-09 21:06:38 EDT, you write:
>
><< Brian Hayden wrote:
> > > are you serious??????
> > > if QR gets nuno to record some guitar tracks hell i'll start
listening to
> > > them again.
> > >
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:38:36 -0400 From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Tori Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980411223836.006a1e48@scott.skidmore.edu>
>Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:59:30 -0400 (EDT) >From: Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Is there a ToriJam? >Message-ID: <199804112059.QAA07328@acmey.gatech.edu> > > >Hey, I was just wondering, being that there are more than a few Tori Amos >admirers out there, whether anyone knew of a mailing list similar to this >one for her...
Yes, there is. Go to www.atlantic-records.com. :) I'm not on the list, but I happened to be browsing around the record label sites today, while updating my music pages (PLUG PLUG...the music pages are getting quite close to finished...the DT pages are up! :), and I happened to come across her little area....\
Erica
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:38:35 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: gardens, commutes Message-ID: <9d346eaa.3530292d@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-10 19:43:48 EDT, you write:
<< Alex (the chick, heehee, who's considering jetting home for a DT show between exams....) >>
Attention Alex and D-man,
If you can get to Northern Virginia, I'll drive the rest of the way to Baltimore on May 5th. Daytona's is a small, but cool place. We gotta go.
Hoping for confirmations, Kez
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:43:24 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: KorgX3rd Reich. Message-ID: <a91474d0.35302a4f@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-10 21:55:05 EDT, you write:
<< Hell, I'd take it as a compliment to be compared to Hitler. Quite a bit was accomplished through his regime (aside from the wonton destruction and mindless slaughter). And he was a pretty good artist, too. Very charismatic person. Started as a soldier in a unit in WWI. Eventually becomes a dictator over a small empire. I'm not saying that he was a good person, but he set out to do something and he accomplished it. I respect him for that much. Remember, the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world... Do. I bet I get alot of flame mail for that. Be careful though, you might not like my responses. >>
Flame? Why would we flame? BTW, are you related to Marge Schott?
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:11:39 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Alan Estrada, most hated guy on the jam? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980411221139.007b1100@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
>> From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> (surprise, huh?) >> >> I dont think Dream Thetaer has ever been to Mexico > >Has Dream Theatre? >
nope neither has them or Dream Theater ...
am I the most hated guy on this list? thats sad... --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 00:19:28 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Who's going to Baltimore? Message-ID: <199804120419.AAA31550@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Hey gang. I'm thinking about the May 5th Baltimore DT show. Who's going? More importantly, if I do indeed go, who would be kind enough to donate some floor space for me and my traveling companions? -d
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:29:17 -0500 From: yzzy <yzzy@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Hot For Teacher Message-ID: <199804120429.VAA18519@denmark.it.earthlink.net>
>That's not really a drummer on Hot For Teacher. What they did is >sample a Harley Davidson idling at 1500rpm.
i gotta stop reading the jam while i'm drinking coffee. i almost choked to death while laughing. ;-)
izzzzz
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:35:38 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Blaze and Maiden Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980412013231.10981A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, graham boyle wrote:
> Christian P Kremo wrote: > > > Why DT chose KJLB as their singer with all the other talent out there > > > I'll never know. The only bigger mystery to me is why Iron Maiden chose > > > Blaze to replafce Bruce. > > Andre Matos from Angra also tried out, but it seems that Steve Harris > wanted and got an Englishman.
Yeah, he finished the contest in 4th place... Which criteria has S. Harris used to choose their singer? I find it highly biased to discard such talented people such as A. Matos and M. Kiske to offer the position to someone who really has a shorter range than me.
And this *doesn't* mean I'm a good singer (in fact, I admittedly suck when I'm singing).
[]s, Roger...
> graham
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:57:56 +1000 From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: No Australian tour! Message-ID: <353057E4.5CE0@winshop.com.au>
Mr. Portnoy wrote:
> OK ALL>>>> Here's the latest update on the May / June tours....
BAH!, still no Australian tour.
> PS - BANNERS, BANNERS.............
Hey Mike, I've got the most f**ken hotshit, beast-of-a-banner sitting in my bedroom ready to go, It's all yours when you tour Australia... 8-)
*sigh* o-nara,
Luke.
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:59:35 -0400 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: WTF?! and "Humpin' Around" Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980412015935.009ef678@postoffice.ptd.net>
At 08:46 PM 4/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >WTF is going on?! <snip> This, generally, is what frustrates me about DT's lack of recognition by the (m)asses. I'd say 9 out of any 10 people I've played DT for (including my sister, who's subjected to it just about every day on the car rides to and from school) have been into it, and at least 5 of any 10 have either asked for a tape or gone out and bought I&W themselves. My mom doesn't really understand metal at all - *side story: Once we were in my car, and I put on a jazz station, and my mom looked shocked that I left it on for more than 3 seconds. "You like jazz? Hmm. I thought you were only into that 'Satan music'." *sigh* . . . ;) - but I've played DT for her, and she likes it, especially I&W and ACOS. My *other* sister listens to rap and other such *enter noun of choice*, but she's said good things about DT upon hearing their music blaring through my stereo (drowning out her [c]rap :) in my room. And it goes beyond family . . . I've "converted" more than a few non-metal fans, including a hippie (!), as well as a few "only-the-brutal-shit-for-me, thank-you" metal fans who normally don't like anything melodic or progressive.
Keep converting out there, fellow 'jammers. It's *not* very hard, in most cases. At least from my experience . . .
> Okay, SAVATAGE question. On The Wake of Magellan, at 0:55 into track 7 >("Paragons of Innocence"), the band goes into the same melody as Bobby >Brown's "Humpin' Around". Anyone else hear this?! > Hey, shutttup, I was in junior high once :)
This came to me at work. I believe I was putting down MBX meat, or making a Crispy Chicken Deluxe, or something. The song came into my head from out of nowhere, and then the connection came. How it came so fast, I'll never know.
"Paragons of innocence . . . " "Get up off my back . . . "
And hey, I own the Vanilla Ice album, so don't worry. We all make stupid mistakes when we're younger . . . ;)
Take care, and Happy Easter to those to whom it would apply!
'til l8r, Brian
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:54:51 -0400 From: robgaul@juno.com (rob w gaul) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DETROIT Message-ID: <19980412.015556.4070.3.ROBGAUL@juno.com>
ok i got one person going to the detroit show too. anyone else going that might wanna get together afterwards?? write me personally if u want to.. robgaul@juno.com carpe diem translation *sieze the day*
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:05:03 -0400 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: mp3 Message-ID: <3530679F.FE08477A@ic3.ithaca.edu>
My little brother wants me to find him an Aqualung mp3. If someone has one, my ICQ # is 3077750....thanx
Chris
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 06:09:04 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Who's going to Baltimore? Message-ID: <55ac5bd2.353092c1@aol.com>
i'll definately be there chris, lookin forward to seein you there.. my drummer already got me tickets and he's driving i think, but i thought may 5th was in PA, and he said the 20somethingth they are playing at daytonas in baltimore, unconfirmed that is though...
Rocky
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 06:09:54 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Who's going to Baltimore? Message-ID: <b05b80e8.353092f4@aol.com>
doh, sorry, forgot to say so, but my couch is yours if ya need it
sorry for the unusual one line post from me.... Rocky
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:54:41 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: EVH Message-ID: <3530E3C1.1407527C@ameritech.net>
>> Eddie: You can't deny that he is ONE of the greatest guitar players of >> all time. Coked up or not. >> And evidently he's clean now..... so give him a break! >> >> Just my honest opinions......
> That's not your opinion if you're saying someone "can't" do > something.
Well put Mr. Ptacek. Let me rephrase that then....... "It's HARD to deny that he is ONE of the greatest... (etc.)"
> But I don't deny that Eddie was awesome in his day.
You don't think he's still awesome? I do. (but I also respect you for your opinion if you don't)
> Why is it that I think LaBrie is great,
I agree wholeheartedly with that.
Thanks, - Joe D.
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:55:30 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: EVH /LaBrie Message-ID: <3530E3F2.DE39E4F1@ameritech.net>
>> Eddie: You can't deny that he is ONE of the greatest guitar players of >> all time. Coked up or not. >> And evidently he's clean now..... so give him a break! >> >> Just my honest opinions......
> That's not your opinion if you're saying someone "can't" do > something.
Well put Mr Ptacek. Let me rephrase that then....... "It's HARD to deny that he is ONE of the greatest... (etc.)"
> But I don't deny that Eddie was awesome in his day.
You don't think he's still awesome? I do. (but I also respect you for your opinion if you don't)
> Why is it that I think LaBrie is great,
I agree wholeheartedly with that.
Thanks, - Joe D.
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