YTSEJAM Digest 3732
Today's Topics:
1) online boot shops / melodic rock bible
by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
2) Cool!
by Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
3) I need off of SHadow Gallery list
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
4) Re: I need off of SHadow Gallery list
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
5) Drummers and Geometry
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
6) Re: JKLB
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
7) Re: Blaze and Maiden
by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
8) Re: **No St. Louis show as expected (sorry Seth, Pat, & all other area jammers )
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
9) The Spirit of Radio 4/11/98
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
10) Is there a ToriJam?
by Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu>
11) I got to thinking... (NDTC)
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
12) Open All Night Records....
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
13) ah, Marriott
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
14) Re: Is there a ToriJam?
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
15) bichinhas
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
16) Re: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area?
by Dave Thomas <dthomas@best.com>
17) Help - Los Angeles Info Needed
by KrossCheck <KrossCheck@aol.com>
18) Anyone have a St. Louis '94 bootleg
by "Chris C." <chris-76@prodigy.net>
19) good mailbox!
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:55:12 +0300
From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: online boot shops / melodic rock bible
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980411215512.007fb7e0@mail.surffi.net>
I just happened to stumble across couple of boot shops, has anyone dealt
with these companies, and are they reliable?
http://www.dnaco.net/~cdcellar/
http://www.cd-gold.co.jp/
both had some nice DT boots / videos aswell few Stryper ones..
also saw "the melodic rock bible" check the URL out to see who made it to
the cover :)
http://www.ping.be/rock_report/bible.html
op777
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e-mail: opk@hlti.fi phn:+358-3-6715036 cell:+358-400-498 266
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"YOUTAKEMYLIFEANDI'LLTAKEYOURSTOO!!!" -Kevin Moore
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:57:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cool!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95q.980411143754.20458A-100000@hypatia.math.uwaterloo.ca>
So I'm watching the Flyers-Caps game right now on Fox and what did I
just hear in the background blaring over the PA during one of the
stoppages in play? Universal Mind!
** Lars Hellsten (lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) **
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:57:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I need off of SHadow Gallery list
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.980411135514.29349A-100000@rossby>
I got subscribed to the Shadow Gallery list and can't unsubscribe now.
I've tried SEVERAL time and I get an error message saying it doesn't know
my current e-mail address. Further, every time I try to contact a
person, I get the same automated e-mail response.
I have a thesis to work on and cannot have all these e-mails cluttering
up my mailbox.
Could anyone be so kind as to help me unsubscribe from the Shadow Gallery
group. I just don't have the time to keep up with it (let alone my ytsejams)
Thanks,
Jon Case
jcase@rossby.ou.edu
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:09:15 -0700
From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: I need off of SHadow Gallery list
Message-ID: <352FBFDB.6A41@pacbell.net>
Jonathan Case wrote:
>
> I got subscribed to the Shadow Gallery list and can't unsubscribe now.
> I've tried SEVERAL time and I get an error message saying it doesn't know
> my current e-mail address. Further, every time I try to contact a
> person, I get the same automated e-mail response.
>
> I have a thesis to work on and cannot have all these e-mails cluttering
> up my mailbox.
>
> Could anyone be so kind as to help me unsubscribe from the Shadow Gallery
> group. I just don't have the time to keep up with it (let alone my ytsejams)
>
> Thanks,
> Jon Case
> jcase@rossby.ou.edu
Sorry to see you leave us....but I have unsubscribed ou from the list.
I hope to see you on the list again tho!
--Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:02:03 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Drummers and Geometry Message-ID: <352FCC3B.19A1@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
>>Even though I like Van Halen, Alex Van Halen isn't really that good, >>and players like Portnoy, Bruford, and Peart are on a totally >>different plateau, and can play circles around drummers like Alex Van >>Halen. >Yeah, and Bruford can play circles around Peart and Portnoy(IMO).
Again with the contests :) Ok, here we go:
I caught Bruford with the BBB back in the late 70's and he did kick my ass. That is, when I could take my eyes off Alan Holdsworth's or Jeff Berlin's playing, long enough to notice! I'd have to say, one of the best club gigs I've ever attended. And I've been to many hundreds (not bragging, just emphasizing how good the show was :)
There's something about his staccato that just gets to me after a while. I can only take so much of it. Very tight drummer, don't get me wrong. Scary chops! I have and still do listen to him for hours on end. I have One of A Kind, Gradually Going Tornado, several UK albums, and most of the Yes collection, so I have in fact given it a thorough chance. But, Bill, dewd, buddy: open that high hat now and then, guy :) Guess it's just a personal preference thing for me, but I've always enjoyed Alan White's style more. I just happen to prefer the different styles he uses. I'd still pay to see either though :) Matter of fact, he's coming to House of Blues with Tony Levin, next week :):):):)
As far as outplaying anyone, I ain't goin' there :) They all outplay my nadz, ok? :)
Check out the drummer in Jon Finn's (http://www.tiac.net/users/jonfinn) band. Circles? He is known for being able to play geometric shaps that can't be visualised using modern equipment :) A fantastic sense of rhythm and his expression is so colorful!! This is not boring stuff, by any means. This guy just flat out beats the crap out of a tiny kit! And then he doesn't :) Amazing control... You can read more about him on Berklee's page(s) as he's on the faculty there :) -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:02:53 -0400 From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: JKLB Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980411160253.007c5100@mindspring.com>
>James in a two hour >set spends about :90 back stage gargling sperm or something. I saw DT >on two straight nights as did others here and the first night he sounded >pretty good, but the second night his voice was totally blown and almost >every time he'd try to hit the high notes his voice would crack.
James does have his problems, but he's _far_ more consistent on this tour than on past tours. The reason is he's singing more "intelligently." On the I&W and Awake tours he would try to hit insane notes even when everyone in the place knew he couldn't do it, and all too often he'd end up crashing and burning in flames. This tour, however, he's not trying to do more than he feels he can on any given night, and the result is much better consistency. He may not do the "Bear this honor in my NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME" or "Tell your stepfather I SAIIIIIIIIID SOOOOOOOOOOOOO," anymore, but he's also reduced his chances of looking foolish tenfold by taking it a bit easier on himself. There's also the fact that he's got much more backing vocal support now than in previous tours. I'm sure he felt pressure to be singing his ass off at all times during the previous tours, but, like Geoff Tate, having others singing with you can help alot. (Tho' Portnoy and Pettrucci are no DeGarmo and Wilton vocally.) :) Plus it sounds much better, much fuller. Especially on songs like Voices. They did the vocal harmonies on the "See my diary on the newsstand, seems we've lost the truth to quicksand" part during the first few shows of the (pre)Awake tour (the Rudess show comes to mind), but then didn't do it again until this tour. Just gives them a much more mature sound. Just my two cents... :)
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpineone(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 9382967 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone/tapelist.html ^ Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:06:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Blaze and Maiden Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980411155441.5527B-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>
> Why DT chose KJLB as their singer with all the other talent out there > I'll never know. The only bigger mystery to me is why Iron Maiden chose > Blaze to replafce Bruce. > > Scott
Maiden were dead set on getting a British singer. It never really bothered me that much until I heard that Michael Kiske had auditioned for the job. But of course he didn't get in because he is German. I would KILL to get a hold of his audition tape! Kiske is truly the man with a golden voice, who would have been able to handle anything Bruce had done. Blaze does have a bit of trouble with a lot of Bruce's stuff live, especially "The Evil That Men Do". That one was really bad on the choruses. Overall I still like Blaze a singer, but he just isn't meant for Maiden. (DTC here!) As for the KJLB comment, just be glad that Steve Stone didn't make it. No disrepect to him if he is on the list, but his tape was horrible. I wonder who DT would have gone with it KJLB didn't send in an audition tape? What do you think?
-C#
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:24:28 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: **No St. Louis show as expected (sorry Seth, Pat, & all other area jammers ) Message-ID: <352FD17C.1089EA02@caribe.net>
Aaron High wrote:
> Mike, if you're listening, why? This is the 2nd time that I have seen this > shattering message for this tour. I'm sure this is due to circumstances > beyond you're control. I'm done being pissed, but I would greatly > appreciate an explanation.
Hm.. i dunno where the fuck do you get off asking MP for an explanation....you should feel lucky even if the band has been there once in their whole careers..
--
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:40:46 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com, portnoy420@aol.com, qghost@pdt.net Subject: The Spirit of Radio 4/11/98 Message-ID: <199804112040.QAA09927@tx.cs.wm.edu>
Here's the list:
Iron Maiden The Prisoner The Number Of The Beast Fates Warning Monument Inside Out Saigon Kick Feel The Same Way The Lizard Whitesnake Slide It In Slide It In Joe Satriani S. M. F. Joe Satriani Megadeth She-Wolf Cryptic Writings Limp Bizkit Faith Three Dollar Bill, Y'all$ Faith No More Falling To Pieces The Real Thing Primus Tommy The Cat Sailing The Seas Of Cheese Cairo Season Of The Heart Cairo Frank Zappa Dancin' Fool Sheik Yerbouti Rush A Farewell To Kings A Farewell To Kings Rush YYZ Moving Pictures Rush Half The World Test For Echo Mr. Big Mr. Gone Bump Ahead Ozone Quartet Thief Fresh Blood Scatterbrain Down With The Ship Here Comes Trouble Testament Souls Of Black Souls Of Black Europe Scream Of Anger Wings Of Tomorrow Altura One By One Mercy echolyn Best Regards As The World King Crimson Frame By Frame Discipline Dream Theater Surrounded Images And Words
Questions? Answers? Let me know. -d
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:59:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Is there a ToriJam? Message-ID: <199804112059.QAA07328@acmey.gatech.edu>
Hey, I was just wondering, being that there are more than a few Tori Amos admirers out there, whether anyone knew of a mailing list similar to this one for her...
Thanks.
Eric
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:47:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.wm.edu> Subject: I got to thinking... (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980411144554.23412B-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
I took out Cryptiuc Writings and took another listen the other day, and, as I was growling along, I got to listening to She-Wolf, the melody lines, lyrics, etc., and began to think...
What would She-Wolf sound like with John Arch? In other words, the song has a huge Night On Brocken/Spectre Within vibe, and Arch almost seems a natural in that song...
Opinions? any?
--Matt
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:51:19 -0400 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Open All Night Records.... Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980411175118.006afe60@maila.wm.edu>
Rick Barkhouse wrote:
>Has anyone else recieved a message from Open All Night Records, who are >selling a promo bootleg compilation? It sounds pretty good, just wanted >to know if anyone has actually got one...
Yeah, I've gotten the message from them. I'm also almost positive that I will be buying the thing...it sounds like a killer compilation. Just have to scrape up the cash...
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:54:30 -0400 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ah, Marriott Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980411175430.006be3f4@maila.wm.edu>
>>This bile reminds me of Marriot, the vendor in charge of anything remotely food-like that finds its way to the Plattsburgh campus. You can't so much as have chips and coke at a club meeting if you didn't pay the 21.59 per bag from them. Now, from what I've heard on other campuses, the food here is pretty good. BUT! I don't think that gives them the right to outlaw competition. >>
Now, this is way off anything DT, but at the mention of our on-campus food provider, I just had to throw in my two cents. It's just plain NASTY. They overcharge b/c they know you have nowhere else to go (in most cases, anyway). It scares me that I can get used to it during the course of a semester. Of course, there was then this rumor that somebody else was buying up the bid to feed our college...hahaha, cruel joke. Marriott is still here, with their watery eggs and scary meatlike substances, served in a syrup of SOMETHING.
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:15:29 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Is there a ToriJam? Message-ID: <352FEB80.64DFD7D4@pacbell.net>
Eric John Marlett wrote:
> Hey, I was just wondering, being that there are more than a few Tori Amos > admirers out there, whether anyone knew of a mailing list similar to this > one for her...
There are a few of them listed here on Itchy's page: http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/lists.htm
-- Lisa Marie jessie@dreamt.org ICQ uin # 1518578 http://www.dreamt.org/jessie -- THOUGHTS - The Spock's Beard Mailing List Homepage http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: bichinhas Message-ID: <19980411230452.16753.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com>
> [], Roger... > as "gays" isn't exactly gays, not in the pejorative sense, but saying that > they are too much delicate to be tough men :-) (I don't know how it should > be written in English --
Girly men:) or as it's really pronounced: "Guuuuhly Men"
Hans and Franz
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:11:06 -0700 From: Dave Thomas <dthomas@best.com> To: "'ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area? Message-ID: <01BD6564.6F702F40.dthomas@best.com>
>Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> wrote;
>Try Rasputins or CD Wherehouse or Streetlight.
Hmm, I've been to all three, if you mean the Rasputins and Streetlight along Bascom in SJ. They have a lot of prog (CD Warehouse being the best), but I didn't see any prog metal CDs at any of the stores when I was there. Are they hidden is some section? All these stores have an odd arrangement system. Rasputins has a metal section, but it looked like pretty much all death metal bands to me. Which reminded me of something: does every Death Metal band use the same artist for their CD covers? All the art looked like it was taken from the same comic book on almost every CD I picked up.
To all, I do recommend a visit to the above mentioned stores if you're in the SF/SJ area. They all have a ton of used CDs, a prog section, and a bunch of other stuff (including used Laser Discs at Rasputins and Streetlight! We bought a bunch when we were there).
>cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) said:
>And one more..Amoeba record stores (in Berkeley and at Haight St. in San >Francisco).
I haven't been to those. Thanks.
Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of CG software, books, games, comics, music movies and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:38:09 EDT From: KrossCheck <KrossCheck@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Help - Los Angeles Info Needed Message-ID: <2fd3c138.352ffee3@aol.com>
Can anyone familiar with the Los Angeles area please email me. I am coming out there in June and I'd like to get some info on the tattoo shops in and around the Sunset Strip. I'd like to get something done while I'm out there.
Thanks - Chung in NYC
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:02:55 -0600 From: "Chris C." <chris-76@prodigy.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Anyone have a St. Louis '94 bootleg Message-ID: <01bd65a6$5862fa20$bf252581@revolution>
I've been trying to find a recording of that show since I went to it. E-mail privately if you can help. Thanks,
Chris
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:40:25 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: good mailbox! Message-ID: <19980412004026.26818.qmail@hotmail.com>
got my baseball fix, so I'm a happy guy....the past week's mailbox and "music review bin at the school paper" was also very very kind to me......
nutshell reviews for some of them...... loreena mckennitt, Book of Secrets: ever fall in love with a voice? Helloween, Seven Keys, pt.II: I want out! I mean, I want more! mclaughlin, dimeola, de lucia: friday, san fran: classic, 'nuff said Shadow Gallery, CiS: early returns, it's not living up to the hype Always Almost: These guys used to be ECHOLYN? a little more studio massage, and this could be.....dare i say it? oasi....nahhh, that's too harsh..... especially since I just ripped Izzy Stradlin's (ex G'n'R) new disc (117 Degrees) for "reeking of Classic Rock" i gotta be listening to Shadow gallery and AA again, maybe it'll grow?
to continue: Yes, Open Your Eyes: interesting mix of thirty years of yes....no real opinion yet, like the fact that Steve Howe's back in
Fates, perfect symmetry: as expected, a transition betw. No Exit and Parallels, 1st impression: I like either of the bookends better
and Steve Vai, Alien Love Secrets: Damn good Horsie, and yo yo gakk is what I want my kids (far off in the future as they might be) to grow up to be.....
Francis Dunnery, Let's go Do what happens: this one comes out in the states on april 28th....Dunnery is formerly of It Bites (eat me in St. Louis, among other albums) Not quite as cool as what I remember of that band's music, but the promo sticker isn't lying when it touts the album as "fun-filled".....one cool disc, to be sure.....
and then there's the BAND called Discipline, from Royal Oak, Michigan, which I finally wrote up a review on.....nutshell: band kicks too much ass, and the album likewise......the review, in retrospect, sorta sucks, i got caught up in too much of the wrong details, trying to butter up the band in terms readers might get interested in, but I hope it makes some of you buy this stuff..... web page at members@aol.com/~strngout strngout@aol.com uis e-mail
(and no apologies for forcing you to read, music is what this forum is about, right? and this is only my first offense, anyway)
Discipline Unfolded Like Staircase Strung Out Records
Discipline’s latest album, Unfolded Like Staircase, runs for 65 minutes, but it contains only four songs. Do the math, and you can see that the Royal Oak-based band isn’t making music for the pop charts. What the band loses in radio-friendliness, however, is more than compensated by the thoughtfulness, and “completeness” of this album. The length of each song allows Discipline to take a musical and lyrical idea and develop it fully. Lyricist/vocalist Matthew Parmenter tackles his weighty topics, ranging from mental illness to the afterlife, with a storyteller’s touch. The music itself is progressive rock, influenced by early, Peter Gabriel-era Genesis. The band took its name from a King Crimson album, and that background is also evident throughout the album. Those bands do not, however, limit Discipline’s sound, as they have incorporated a wide range of influences into their music. If I had to pick a single adjective to describe the whole album, it would have to be somber, if only due to the lyrical subject matter. The music on Unfolded Like Staircase runs the gamut from eerie to ecstatic, from gloomy King Crimson to Dream Theater flash. The opening track, “Canto IV (Limbo)” begins stridently, by Paul Dzendzel’s crisp percussion and a saxophone, courtesy of Parmenter. The song settles into a somber groove, appropriate for its tale of a man trapped in the eternal nether world between heaven and hell known as Limbo. Parmenter’s lyrics use the concept of Limbo as presented in Dante’s Inferno, and lets you into the mind of the protagonist as he struggles to understand his hopeless plight, “And here I am in Limbo/Desiring without hope we live/..../how can there possibly be/no more room up there for me?” The best song on Unfolded Like Staircase is the 22 minute epic, “Into the Dream.” The first five minutes are highlighted by an eerie, stalking, inescapable bassline from Matthew Kennedy. The lyrics tell a frightening tale of Freudian repression giving way to evil dreams, an ever-blurring border between violent fantasy and murderous reality, “He lives in my dreams/Life denied as a child/He has grown sick and wild/and he wants me to kill/’kill them all in their sleep’.” The listener is sucked along for a wild ride by Jon Preston Bouda’s guitar work as the protagonist contemplates all kinds of mayhem, before finally escaping from the destructive suggestions. The disc’s final track, “Before the Storm” provides yet another testament to Discipline’s diversity. Parmenter picks up a violin in this song’s climax, offering a touch of the Dave Matthews Band to top off what is, simply put, one of the best CDs I have.
Partha Mukhopadhyay
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