YTSEJAM Digest 3731
Today's Topics:
1) Maritime Hall
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
2) Re: WTF?!?!
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
3) Re: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area?
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
4) Re: WTF?!?!
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
5) Forget something Mike?
by AL <al@isd.net>
6) Kamelot, Hoey, VH, 'tage
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
7) Laser's edge
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
8) Re: damn / no St.L show
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
9) Re:Hot for Teacher
by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
10) about canceling the subscription.
by "Hagit Yaffe" <yaffe_ha@netvision.net.il>
11) Open All Night Records
by 015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca (Rick Barkhouse)
12) **No St. Louis show as expected (sorry Seth, Pat, & all other area jammers )
by "Aaron High" <High2day@prodigy.net>
13) On the road with DT...**SPOILER***
by adiel@earthling.net
14) Re: Laser's edge
by Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu>
15) Re: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area?
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3730
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3730
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
18) Re: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area?
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:40:10 -0800
From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Maritime Hall
Message-ID: <v01540b00b154f78210df@[205.134.227.198]>
"woot" <woot@crypted.com> wrote;
>That's right it's me again. I need to know if Club Rio in Tempe and the
>Maritime Hall in SF are 21+ or not, and if so how strict they are. I'm
>going to see if I can get to the AZ one especially because I'm sure there'll
>be a mini ytsecon beforehand
I have seen Jean Luc Ponty concert at the Maritime Hall in San Francisco
before. This place IS for all ages but you can show your ID if you want to
drink alcohol. The problem is the tickets for the Maritime Hall ARE NOT
available at BASS. You can buy the tickets at the box office of the
Maritime Hall or at the Border books and music store (music department).
Oh...and this place is general admission and they have seats. I'm not sure
that we can stand to see DT over there though.
Hope they confirm the show at the Maritime Hall. I will be very happy.
Here is some info if you wanna call them;
Maritime Hall (415) 974-0634
450 Harrison & First Street
Good luck,
AE
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:43:13 -0800
From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: WTF?!?!
Message-ID: <v01540b01b154f95c806c@[205.134.227.47]>
Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> wrote;
>p.s. My Mom said she thinks James' voice sounds a bit like Freddy
>Mercury from Queen (not a ton, but a bit).
>Anyone agree with this?
Nah...I do not think so. But your mom is so cool, anyway.
AE
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"Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:56:18 -0800
From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area?
Message-ID: <v01540b02b154fc8f40c1@[205.134.227.47]>
Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> wrote;
>Try Rasputins or CD Wherehouse or Streetlight.
And one more..Amoeba record stores (in Berkeley and at Haight St. in San
Francisco).
See you at the Maritime Hall, Carol!
sis'ae
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:52:44 EDT
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: WTF?!?!
Message-ID: <37bee004.352f3d6e@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-10 21:23:53 EDT, you write:
<< My Mom heard me listening to DT today (Surrounded) and said "Who's
this?" After I told her, she said "hey, that's pretty good".
She then heard HY, TAMP, WFS, and some of AD and liked all of it!?
Okay, okay...... those are their softie songs you say.
Here's the kicker....
She listened to all of Metropolis Pt.1, and even said that it was good
as well! Also she listened to JP's long solo (the kinda bluesy one) on
the LiT video (after To Live Forever, I think), and liked that too! >>
There's nothing wrong with that, im sure a lot of the jammers are probably as
old if not older than your mom. hell, my mom listens to dream theater,
queensryche, marillion and some other prog rock, she used to like metallica,
and she still listens to kennyG and maria carey. i think its perfectly
normal..
Rocky
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:33:26 -0500
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Forget something Mike?
Message-ID: <352F6316.B7A2E131@isd.net>
Ahem. Mr. Portnoy. (you listening?)
The tour folks have left a gaping hole in the Midwest. So far that is.
How about Minneapolis/St. Paul? This time around there should be
a large draw locally, as well as a impressive draw from ND. SD. IO.
and WI. I live in a St. Paul eastern suburb, and attended both the
Nov 2 MPLS, and Nov 18 Madison shows. I also met a number
of people that traveled a great distance. I have friends in both Dakotas
that have been bitching that DT has never been there. They also said
that they would be willing to pack up the canoe and travel a few hundred
miles to see a show.
I got a better idea, You guys can setup in my basement and play.
I fill the fridge with Jag, acquire a great deal of smoke (in case the ru=
mors
about James are true) Then I will order 5 dozen boxes of doughnuts to
keep the Oakdale Police Dept. at bay. We will invite all the good lookin=
g
local chicks over so they can weep as Derek plays Rod Stewarts *Do Ya
Think I=92M Sexy* on my daughters 1959 vintage (tube type) Thomas Organ.
After the 3 plus hour show, (hehe) we will hang out and watch *Beavis And
Butthead Do America* and throw darts at my daughters Alanis Morissette
poster. In a well tuned state of mind of course. That would rule!
Ya know what? Your fans RULE!
-- See ya, AL...Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:21:44 -0400 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Kamelot, Hoey, VH, 'tage Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980411092144.006bac48@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Kevin remarked: >Kamelot's newest record Siege Perilous is due to be released in Europe on >May 25th and in the rest of the world June 25th. The record was recorded at >Morrisound and mixed at Area 51 in Germany. Produced by Thomas Youngblood >and Kamelot, Mixed by Tommy Newton. Look for Kamelot to tour the world in >support. Rock on Metal Brothers!!! > >Gee, I wonder if "the world" includes the U.S. :-)
Dunno, but a lot of people here would probably be keen to know that Roy Khan (formerly of Conception) will be doing vocals for Kamelot now. Everybody I talk to about Conception says that Khan's vocals are the main reason they like the band.
Vinnie sniffled: >~Vinnie mourns the loss of Gary Hoey > to Fender (eek) guitars.
Ah, so you're on the Hoey mailing list too, eh, Vinnie? :) Got my newsletter yesterday and that was the same thing I thought too. "Eek!"
Dale informed us: >That's not really a drummer on Hot For Teacher. What they did is >sample a Harley Davidson idling at 1500rpm.
Hahahahahaha! I told my roommate this (he's a motorcycle freak and a Van Halen fan too) and he informed me after he stopped laughing that he is planning to sue for his now-cracked ribs. :)
Spiff wrote: >Definately a similarity, though. "Paragons of innocence, something >something da da da, everybody's humpin' around..."
God DAMN you people. Now I will *never* be able to listen to this song without hearing that. Just like DT's "Scarred" and its "elastic rubber nads"!!!! (Shut up, Eckie, I can hear you laughing from here).
:)
Ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: "Schindler's List" -- Soundtrack
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:43:00 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Laser's edge Message-ID: <000401bd6558$20e8d860$78c95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
>From: Dave Thomas <dthomas@best.com> >Subject: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area? > >find. Anyone have any suggestions, or should I just use a mial order place >like Laser's Edge?
I've heard of Lasers Edge here. So i checked the URL i remembered it being at, http://www.lasersedge.com/, and it seems to be videos (laserdisc, etc) only. Do i have the wrong URL? Is there some other section of this website i didn't see? It has a music section but i think it's music-related videos. Please help. Thx.
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:47:25 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: damn / no St.L show Message-ID: <v01520d01b154e90f7832@[207.90.117.252]>
>> **No St. Louis show as expected (sorry Seth, Pat, & all other area jammers ) >Dammit dammit, sonuvabitch. Oh well, looks like a road trip to >Chicago is in order.
head up to cincy... wouldn't that be closer??
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm (at) erinet (dot) com "The farmers in the Annapolis Valley are pleased to announce that this year there will be an abundance of apples. This is particularly good news because most of the farmers haven't had a good crap in years." -Maryland TV Broadcaster ---+ +---
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:10:14 PDT From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:Hot for Teacher Message-ID: <19980411141014.4847.qmail@hotmail.com>
>1.) That drumbeat in "Hot For Teacher" is overdubbed 4 times! Alex >V= >an >Halen doesn't really play that all at once. It's unhumanly possible. >You'd need a couple extra legs and arms to play it!
I wasnīt talking about the beginning part of HfT.I know itīs overdubbed.I was talking about the main beat that goes on in verses.That part is NOT overdubbed.Itīs just extremely hard to play.The same beat can be found from Panteraīs "Psycho Holiday"only in halftime(Itīs even harder that way!). >.) Even though I like Van Halen, Alex Van Halen isn't really that go= >od, >and players like Portnoy, Bruford, and Peart are on a totally >differe= >nt >plateau, and can play circles around drummers like Alex Van Halen.
Yeah, and Bruford can play circles around Peart and Portnoy(IMO).
-Vilzu-
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:11:17 +0300 From: "Hagit Yaffe" <yaffe_ha@netvision.net.il> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: about canceling the subscription. Message-ID: <01bd6553$cb2173a0$771ce8cf@ehud.netvision>
Hi, I would really like to cancel my subscription. Could you please inform me of a way to do so? Thank you very much, Hagit.
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:31:16 -0300 (ADT) From: 015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca (Rick Barkhouse) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Open All Night Records Message-ID: <199804111431.LAA04902@dragon.acadiau.ca>
Has anyone else recieved a message from Open All Night Records, who are selling a promo bootleg compilation? It sounds pretty good, just wanted to know if anyone has actually got one...
// ============================================== // Rick Barkhouse <015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca> | // -- 706 Crowell Tower -+- (902) 585-2700 -- | // Homepage: http://dragon.acadiau.ca/~015691b/ | // ==============================================
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:42:55 -0500 From: "Aaron High" <High2day@prodigy.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: **No St. Louis show as expected (sorry Seth, Pat, & all other area jammers ) Message-ID: <199804111443.KAA69854@pimout2-int.prodigy.net>
Mike, if you're listening, why? This is the 2nd time that I have seen this shattering message for this tour. I'm sure this is due to circumstances beyond you're control. I'm done being pissed, but I would greatly appreciate an explanation.
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:47:33 -0400 (EDT) From: adiel@earthling.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: On the road with DT...**SPOILER*** Message-ID: <199804111447.KAA05100@web01.globecomm.net>
Hi all,
I am currently in a cybercafe in Manchester (England) about to go to the DT show here tonight.
Last night we went to the show in Wolverhampton, which was excellent.
Setlist included Anna Lee and the LTL/Metropolis medley and when they come to the line " Show me kindness, shom me beauty show me truth", we held aloft the banner my girlfriend and I made which had these words on it - v.cool!
Mike said he "Wanted it!" but we have 3 more show to go (he,he). Mattias, "Our biggest fucking fan, from Germany" - as described by MP, had Happy Birthday sung to him by the whole crowd at MPs request. He was also the 1st of the crowd drummers and was v.good, shame the same can't be said about the second guy...
We wandered in at during the soundcheck as no one was about, and saw them run through a couple of songs but left hastily at the request of the tour manager.
That's all for now, many more adventures to come in the next four days I'm sure!
Bye,
Adrian.
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:21:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Laser's edge Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980411101845.2053A-100000@short-eared.owlnet.rice.edu>
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, TheCowGod wrote:
> I've heard of Lasers Edge here. So i checked the URL i remembered it being > at, http://www.lasersedge.com/, and it seems to be videos (laserdisc, etc) > only. Do i have the wrong URL? Is there some other section of this website > i didn't see? It has a music section but i think it's music-related videos. > Please help. Thx.
You do have the wrong URL. Try http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd.
Mark McEuen mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:28:42 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area? Message-ID: <352F9A3A.9864D3D4@pacbell.net>
Carol "Coldfire" Dellinger wrote:
> Dave Thomas wrote: > > > > OK, I have no trouble finding prog discs at various Bay Area CD places, but > > prog metal stuff (like Superior, Symphony X and such) is impossible to > > find. Anyone have any suggestions, or should I just use a mial order place > > like Laser's Edge? > > Dave, > > Try Rasputins or CD Wherehouse or Streetlight.
The CD Warehouse is a great place for most prog, but if you're specifically looking for Superior or Symphony X (or Conception, anything along that line), I seriously doubt you're going to find it around here. I think your best bet is to get it online. However, I'd be very pleased if someone could prove me wrong.
Spock's Beard... 4 days & counting!!!
:o)
Lisa Marie jessie@dreamt.org ICQ uin # 1518578 http://www.dreamt.org/jessie -- THOUGHTS - The Spock's Beard Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:12:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3730 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980411130754.63440A-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
LaBrie > wouldn't know singing if it jumped up and bit him in the ass (at least > compared to Freddie anyway).
Wow.
> Why DT chose KJLB as their singer with all the other talent out there > I'll never know. The only bigger mystery to me is why Iron Maiden chose > Blaze to replafce Bruce. > Does that mean that you consider Charles D. to be a better singer than James?
> One more thing - Bon Jovi's "Never Say Goodbye" is, at this point in time, > the Greatest Song Ever Written. Must be the mood I'm in...
Agreed. You should hear the acoustic version. A true masterpiece.
> Richie
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:53:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3730 Message-ID: <199804111753.MAA28883@enteract.com>
> Why DT chose KJLB as their singer with all the other talent out there > I'll never know. The only bigger mystery to me is why Iron Maiden chose > Blaze to replafce Bruce.
Why is it that I think LaBrie is great, and I hate Blaze? The mysteries never cease.
> <<Yes, but the question is -- can MP play better than 4 Alex Van Halens?>> > > the first thing that hit me when i read this was "ok, DITKA versus > the.........."
ROFLMAO!
"Okay, but can Portnoy eat 3 sah-sitch pizzas while outplaying an army of Alex Van Halens?" "Who would win in an all out drum battle, Ditka or Mike Portnoy"
> Eddie: You can't deny that he is ONE of the greatest guitar players of > all time. Coked up or not. > And evidently he's clean now..... so give him a break! > > Just my honest opinions......
That's not your opinion if you're saying someone "can't" do something. But I don't deny that Eddie was awesome in his day.
> << I know most people think that mexico is a retarded country or > something...the rest of the world think of us as people with mariachi hats and > stuff like that, we're not indians!!!, we have TVs, cars and we like good > bands, I remember on my last trip to canada people was asking me if we had > horses instead of cars, they were even explaining me what was a TV, c'mon > guys, people would be surprised to see that a big city from mexico is almost > like a big city of US or some other countries... >>
So you mean, like, you've heard an electric guitar? And bands in Mexico have songs that don't sound like La Bamba? Do you barter with livestock instead of currency? Do you shower regularly? Hehehe I think that's all funny that people would get that impression... but why are YOU knocking Indians? Do they all wear feathers and scalp people for money?
<note sarcasm> > > I have seen info online at the official DT site stating they the guys > > are going to play the Chicago House of Blues on May 13th. Is this date > > accurate? I called the House of Blues and they said that they do not > > have Dream Theater booked in the near future.
I've heard it will be at the Vic, which I thought would happen, since DT was pissed at the HoB staff, because they fucked up the sound or something... at least that's the rumor that filtered out to the crowd waiting after the show. Plus, in the last Portnoy IRC session, he mentioned the Vic as being one of his favorite venues to play. I love the Vic, because it's convenient for me... but I don't know what makes it awesome to play. Maybe the sound on the stage is great. It's a cool hall and all. And btw, it's almost always all ages. > days before tickets go on sale. Mike Portnoy has semi-confirmed that date > (he himself said that was the *tentative* date for Chicago) so be patient <g>.
The NY date is onsale on the TM site, so some of these are probably set in stone. - Chris
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:23:41 -0700 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Prog Metal Stores In The Bay Area? Message-ID: <01bd6576$f4b830a0$0100007f@localhost>
>> >> Try Rasputins or CD Wherehouse or Streetlight. > >The CD Warehouse is a great place for most prog, but if you're specifically >looking for Superior or Symphony X (or Conception, anything along that >line), I seriously doubt you're going to find it around here. I think your >best bet is to get it online. However, I'd be very pleased if someone >could prove me wrong. >
Yeah, I've been to all these places. CD Warehouse has a nice section for Prog, but it seems to be more old-school Prog. No Symphony X, Superior, etc. I just mail-ordered some stuff after looking around for a while. That's the best way to go.
peace, --james-- mail@jamesthorpe.com www.jamesthorpe.com
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