YTSEJAM Digest 3753
Today's Topics:
1) Lady Jammers
by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
2) Strong PROGress on THURSDAY 2pm-4pm!!
by "Ryan Good, Loud Music Guy" <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
3) Re: Bootlegs
by Jim Suplizio <jim.suplizio@GSC.GTE.com>
4) Re: Bootlegs and Loreena McKennitt
by Jim Suplizio <jim.suplizio@GSC.GTE.com>
5) Re:May 23rd..ATTN:Dallas/Ft.Worth Jammers!!
by Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com>
6) Re: Bahr Wars Epilog - if I may ?
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
7) Re: Electric Detective (Priest fans, figure it out)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
8) Japan Live '94
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
9) Sony Sucks!!!! (NDTC)
by K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com>
10) Hollow Years Single
by "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
11) RE: YTSEJAM digest 3752
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
12) The way it used to be
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
13) Re: Sony Sucks!!!! (NDTC)
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
14) Re: The way it used to be
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
15) radiohead(ndtc)
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
16) Re: Sony Sucks!!!! (NDTC)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
17) The Vic
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:09:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lady Jammers
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.980416070515.70842A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>
Carol/Coldfire wrote:
>let's see besides Lisa who responded, there is Lisa Marie, Heather, Pam,
>Erica, Sarah, Irene, Cheryl, Babs, Jaime, Suz, and myself! Ladies..get
>loud and proud about the Jam!
Oh, and what am I, chopped liver? Yes, I too am a lady jammer. :) But
you already knew that, didn't you? Can everyone tell I'm a day and 10
jams behind?
Don't forget about my Web site for DT enthusiasts going to the Texas
shows. Btw, ticketshafter's web site is down right now... anyone know
when the tix go on sale, or will it be a magical mystery revealed only
moments beforehand? Bronco Bowl's assigned seating, and I think Bayou
Place is as well. Anyways...
-Nicole/Kirby
Nicole Stachowicz McWatters : Assistant Editor of Dateline
Kirby on irc.dreamt.org : a student publication of the
Undergrad Professional Writing Major : University of Houston-Downtown
stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu -or- ytsekirby@geocities.com
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039
P.S. My .sig still kicks ass! ;) ;) (don't hurt me!)
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:05:19 -0500
From: "Ryan Good, Loud Music Guy" <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Strong PROGress on THURSDAY 2pm-4pm!!
Message-ID: <199804161259.HAA03188@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Hey all-
If you've got time today between 2pm and 4pm, why don't you go to
http://msr.wisc.edu
and check out my internet-only radio show Strong PROGress.
Progressive rock, Metal, and all the fringes surrounding.
live in studio phone: 608-265-wsum
in studio e-mail: WSUMlive@macc.wisc.edu
Be there or be not!!
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"If the thought of the rose is the thorn in your side,
then you're better off dead if you haven't yet died."
-Taupin
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Ryan Good - WSUM - Assistant Music Director / Loud Rock Director
Host of Strong Progress, Thursdays from 2pm till 4pm
Home - 608-285-8695 Radio - 608-262-1206
Office Hours: Wed 10-11, Thurs 12-1, various other times...
"The World is Tuning In..." WSUM/MSR Homepage - http://msr.wisc.edu
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:11:54 -0400
From: Jim Suplizio <jim.suplizio@GSC.GTE.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Bootlegs
Message-ID: <3536039A.45E1@GSC.GTE.com>
> Have any of you "fans" ever once thought that you are blatantly STEALING money
> from Dream Theater everytime you buy a bootleg from whoever? Not to mention
> their artistic integrity. Think about that..............take the time
Rather than flame I'll explain to you what was explained to me when
I posted something just like the above mail message. DT knows about
the bootlegs (as a matter of fact they own like 90% from what I hear)
and is totally cool with it. So I'd ignore the people who are looking
for an argument and just accept the fact that the bootlegs are here
and are more than welcome on this list.
Jim
-- "We are all books of blood, as soon as we're open we're red" --Clive Barker------------------------------
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:23:08 -0400 From: Jim Suplizio <jim.suplizio@GSC.GTE.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bootlegs and Loreena McKennitt Message-ID: <3536063C.1E65@GSC.GTE.com>
A while back there were a few people posting about Loreena McKennitt. I have a copy of her Live in San Francisco at the Palace of Fine Arts CD. It is extremely rare and EXCELLENT sound quality. It contains 10 songs and is about 62 minutes. I would be willing to trade copies this of a good quality DT live stuff. (I have a CD-R and thanks to several people on this list I have everything working well!) Please reply privately.
thanks, Jim
-- "We are all books of blood, as soon as we're open we're red" --Clive Barker
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:17:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:May 23rd..ATTN:Dallas/Ft.Worth Jammers!! Message-ID: <19980416141700.29965.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>
Hey everyone, especially Dallas areas jammers!!! I'm phsyched for the upcoming Bronco Bowl meeting with DT...ARE YOU!?!?!?
Anyone know when the tickets go on sale or who the opening act will be?
Anyway, I hope to meet you all and have a F%^King awesome time at the concert. I've been waiting to see DT for four years!!!!
By the way,check out my band's web page at: www.flash.net/~xmittrs You can see a picture of me on the bio page..I'm Glen!!
Bye Bye for now..!!
Woo!!Hoo!!
Glen
P.S. Mr.Portnoy....Check out the web page..If you would like to have a tape,let me know. My aol E-mail address is: GnRBrks@aol.com I know you like to listen to everything!!
== <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<READ THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Sometimes,A view from sinless eyes, centers our perspective, and pacifies our cries." Dream Theater g_brooks@yahoo.com,GnRBrks@aol.com
_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:35:16 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bahr Wars Epilog - if I may ? Message-ID: <199804161435.KAA18359@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> Chrisopher, Michael you are both wrong and right.
Christopher? What are you, my mother?
> Mikey, you blew it, and Chrissy got mad and confused, let it rest.
I don't remember any chick named Chrissy in the debate.
> Mike is back on the track, and is coming to every stations along the > gravy train, and Chris can do his shopping elsewhere.
How nice of you to offer.
> It's the fragging Internet for Pete's sake, you never gonna get up close > and personal with him.
Hey, Mike, remember the great time we had at the Birch Hill show *together*? Or how about after YtseCon III playing laser tag *together*? Boy, that was a hoot, huh?
I'd appreciate it, J?rgen, if you would at least get the facts straight before butting your nose into my business. By the way, what business did you have jumping into our (now dead for days) discussion, anyway?
If you (generally, the Ytsejammers at large) are going to flame someone, please make sure that it's: 1) Accurate 2) Your business 3) Entertaining
Otherwise, you're just wasting everybody's time. -d
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:44:09 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Electric Detective (Priest fans, figure it out) Message-ID: <199804161444.KAA18394@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Kevin Madden noticed:
> >I SHUTTER every time I think of people listening to the defective version..... > >PLEASE EXCHANGE THEM IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY!!! > >(buy the ones that have the serial # of MAXX and not MAX) > > Well, I guess it's true. I had been hoping against hope it > wasn't, but we must face the facts: Mike Portnoy is a > camera.
It takes balls to make fun of Mike Portnoy's spelling on a Dream Theater list. :)
Throwing the shutters out against the wall, -d
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:02:57 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com, sirjani@hotmail.com Subject: Japan Live '94 Message-ID: <35361DA1.DE77C8F9@ameritech.net>
> I received my "Savatage Japan live '94" yesterday, and I was just > wondering if someone could tell me who is(/are) the guitarist(s) on the > album.It's the Handful of Rain-Tour,so could it be Skolnick? > There was no liner notes,just lyrics,so I tought I'd write to you and > ask...Please forgive me my stupidity... > > ~Jani~
Jani, according to the Savatage FAQ, the lineup for the HOR Tour was.............
1994 Voc Zachary Stevens Gtr Alex Skolnick Gtr/KB Jon Oliva Bass Johnny Lee Middleton Drums Jeff Plate HOR Tour
So what do you think of this CD? I think it kicks much ass! The lack of liner notes/ credits also struck me as very odd.
Later, -Joe D.
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:15:51 -0400 (EDT) From: K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sony Sucks!!!! (NDTC) Message-ID: <199804161515.LAA19016@dewdrop2.mindspring.com>
Josh said: >I fuggin hate Sony products. I think they build them preset for all the >wires to melt at a specific time just after the warranty. I'll kill 'em >all, the marriot eating, ticketmaster buying, aol using punks. (no >offense, Mike. I want your ISP to burn in hell. You don't mind, do >you?)
God, I've had two Sony products: first, a Walkman which broke during the warranty and they gave me a new one. Once the warranty was gone it broke again. Now I have a Panasonic which never gavem me any problem. Well, after that I was still stupid enough to buy a stereo system (glorified boom boxes is what those are). Well, the DAY after the warranty expired, one of the tape decks broke. Two weeks later, the second tape deck broke. I tried to get it fixed but it would cost more than half of what I paid for the whole thing. So I was just using it to play CDs. Then a couple months later the CD Player broke. Well, then now I got a Pioneer stereo, so I put the Sony in my studio using it as a second reference monitor (you know, after it sounds good on those nice Event studio monitors, it's gotta sound good on a regular crappy stereo too). But the Auxiliar in stopped working after a while. I kid you not! Sony to me is the crap of the crap. Everything that could possibly break in that system is broken.
Sorry for the waste of bandwidth... I just thought since this is a music list and we gotta play music somewhere, this was somewhat related... AH fuck it :-)
Christian. ____ ____ ____ /\ /\ /\/\ /\ / / /\/ /\/ /\\ /\ /__/ / / \/ \__/ / / /___/ /___/ \\/ \____ /\ \ / / / \/ / / / / /\ \ // \ / / \ / / / / / / / / \___\// / / / / / /__ /__ / / / / / /\ / / / \ \ \ \ \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ / / \___\_\_\__\\__\__\___\_\___\_\___\_\__\__/ / \_________________________________________/ "Of all of these things I'm so much afraid, I'm scared out of my mind from the demons I've made" - Jars of Clay, "Much Afraid"
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:26:16 -0800 From: "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hollow Years Single Message-ID: <C7EA264064ACD011BE4500805FC1DCA10168A687@SATURN.nt.data-io.com>
> Josh, I agree with you wholeheartedly. "The Way it Used to Be" kinda > reminds me of the trend they did when releasing "Lie" as an Awake > single, where they had "To Live Forever" as a bonus track that rocked > my > world. TWIUTB has very quickly soared up on my list of favorite > tracks > that I can really get into. To me, it's almost a shame that the track > didn't make the final cut onto FII, but of course it means that those > of > us who bought the HY singles as imports or otherwise can really > appreciate the extras they put together. I particularly liked the > beginning of Burning my Soul. (even though it sounds like MP is > singing > "burning my toe" in the middle .. hot foot? (: ) > > In fact, on a completely side note, my sister and I will be performing > a > ballroom-style dance routine to the first three or so minutes of it > around June sometime. (I'm an evening Ballroom dance teacher) For > those of you to whom it makes any sense, it'll start out with cha-cha, > go into salsa, break into west coast-style swing, back into salsa, > into > east coast-style swing, and end with cha-cha. I wonder if any dance > of > any kind has ever been done to a DT song before ... > > One more completely random side note. When the band played the > Phoenix > in Seattle, they were playing some tracks that most of us had never > heard before and after the show, recorded by the band. (among them > was > The Way it Used to Be. I _KNEW_ it sounded familiar at first) .. one > of > those tracks was a jazzed-up version of Under a Glass Moon. Was I > second-hand stoned or was this a reality? (: Anyone here on the list > who was at the Seattle show? What did you think of the fact that the > room was like playing someone's basement as opposed to a concert hall? > (: > > -= george =- >
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:49:28 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 3752 Message-ID: <413835162AC9CF11AE9602070116CC5E60D6D6@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
> >I SHUTTER every time I think of people listening to the defective > version..... > >PLEASE EXCHANGE THEM IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY!!! > >(buy the ones that have the serial # of MAXX and not MAX) > > Well, I guess it's true. I had been hoping against hope it > wasn't, but we must face the facts: Mike Portnoy is a > camera. > > I'll take "Things Only Madden Would Say" for $200, please, Alex... :)
Mike Division - With King Diamond, at Jaxx, May 14th. Please buy tickets from me - we have a CD to pay for!
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:11:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The way it used to be Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980416120419.36914B-100000@afs07.mty.itesm.mx>
Hey Jammers Has anyone noticed (i dont remember anyone posting about this) the strong (and i mean that!) DT and U2 connection on TWIUTB? That song is completely COOL. I like it a lot, in fact, i would sacrifice one FII song and have TWIUTB in that album instead of a bonus song in a single. I dont you about you guys, but upon hearing less than a minute of that song for the first time, the first thought that came to mind was: U2!
Hey, it s just an observation, i m not saying that DT were doing U2 in that song, but maybe that song could pass as a U2 song IMO. Now, that song it s supposed to be a DEMO, is there a definitive version, or that version was meant to be on FII, but had to be cut from it?
Mauricio
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 12:18:39 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sony Sucks!!!! (NDTC) Message-ID: <35363d6f5dcb002@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <199804161515.LAA19016@dewdrop2.mindspring.com> from ytsejam@ax.com: > > > Josh said: > >I fuggin hate Sony products. I think they build them preset for all the > >wires to melt at a specific time just after the warranty.
As long as we're bashing Sony, I'll add (this is from about 6 years experience in the cable TV field) that their televisions are the only brand that consistently blow the picture tube within about three years.
The only Sony product I've ever bought is a Walkman...which is currently in a dresser drawer awaiting the day when I need to scavenge it for parts.
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:20:06 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The way it used to be Message-ID: <199804161720.NAA19221@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Mauricio observed:
> Hey, it s just an observation, i m not saying that DT were doing U2 in > that song, but maybe that song could pass as a U2 song IMO.
It's close, but it ain't *that* close! :) I look at FII (and the songs that didn't make it) as the period in DT's songwriting life where they really, really wore their influences on their sleeves, so to speak. You can hear the M-word and Floyd in "Peruvian Skies," the Sting in "Hollow Years," the U2 in "TWIUTB," etc...
> Now, that song it s supposed to be a DEMO, is there a definitive version, > or that version was meant to be on FII, but had to be cut from it?
Every song (including the ones on the album) was demoed. That's just how the system works. Then they picked 11 of them to record somewhere nicer than JP's basement (or wherever they did the demos), and that became the album. The songs that weren't selected were never (at least, as far as I know, and maybe MP could clarify if I'm wrong) re-recorded after they were demoed.
At least, that's my assumption, based on what little I know about the industry. -d
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:11:59 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: radiohead(ndtc) Message-ID: <01IVXS7IKX94000AFA@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Date sent: 16-APR-1998 13:06:06
>I really don't think radiohead is the least bit mainstream rock. Ever
Welp...I do.
I have Ok Computer and like it but I don't have the others. Opinions?
I put that band next to DMB in my comparison not because I thought they were at all similar, but because they were the first two bands that came to mind that get lots of airplay, and are pretty good. Maybe "popular rock" would have been more appropriate but then, how pissed off would you have been if I'd called radiohead "pop" music? ah-hah.
joshbuh
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:38:43 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sony Sucks!!!! (NDTC) Message-ID: <199804161738.NAA19283@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> As long as we're bashing Sony, I'll add (this is from about 6 years experience > in the cable TV field) that their televisions are the only brand that > consistently blow the picture tube within about three years. > > The only Sony product I've ever bought is a Walkman...which is currently in a > dresser drawer awaiting the day when I need to scavenge it for parts.
Allow me to jump on this thread. I also have a Walkman sitting in a dresser drawer. In addition, I have a boom-box-thingie (from a number of years ago) that simply stopped working after about a year and a half. And finally, my cordless phone. Ask anyone that's had a phone conversation with me for more than an hour and a half what a pain it is to hang up and wait for my phone to re-charge.
I've bought my last Sony product. -d
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:40:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Vic Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.980416123941.153824A-100000@red.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Does anyone know if the Vic's gonna be general or reserved?
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