YTSEJAM Digest 3756
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Sony Products
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
2) Re: whatever the hell this was about
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3755
by GnRBrks <GnRBrks@aol.com>
4) self-produced (NDTC, NMBC)
by Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
5) ay carambe!
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
6) Re: So
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
7) Re: self-produced (NDTC, NMBC)
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
8) Re: Liquid Tension
by Riffinator <Riffinator@aol.com>
9) NEWS FLASH
by bj reurich <reurich@pbq.com.au>
10) Re: LTE
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
11) More Savatage '94
by "Jani Liimatainen" <sirjani@hotmail.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3752
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3754
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
14) SF DT Concert
by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
15) Symphony X Touring??? Ever?
by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
16) Oi!
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
17) Speak To Me
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
18) Re: SF DT Concert
by Rick Audet <ytse@concentric.net>
19) Re: The Way It Used To Be
by "Rosinski, Michal" <rosinmi@warsaw.whitecase.com>
20) Dream Theater Show
by "Bill" <stickboy@csionline.net>
21) other Magna Carta bands
by "Joshua P. Walkowicz" <jpwalkowicz@freh-03.adpc.purdue.edu>
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:11:22 EDT
From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Sony Products
Message-ID: <7043e556.3536c85b@aol.com>
I have a friend who worked at Circuit City, and he always told me never to buy
sony, because their stuff was crap, so for years, I didn't. But then when he
quit, he told me that the only reason he (and everybody else there) said not
to was because the markup on Sony products was not as much as others, so the
salesmen didn't get as much comission!
Art
www.joestump.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:25:23 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: whatever the hell this was about
Message-ID: <3536CBA3.B3DD8AAF@imap1.asu.edu>
ytsejam@ax.com sent me:
>
> ****** MESSAGE DAMAGED IN TRANSIT ******
Okay, enough with the Sony posts!
~Eckie had to...no, really
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:34:41 EDT
From: GnRBrks <GnRBrks@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3755
Message-ID: <55b971f0.3536cdd2@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-16 23:06:34 EDT, you write:
<< The Bayou Theater in Houston seats
2,000 - 3,000 depending on whether it's general admission. The Bronco
Bowl in Dallas is all reserved, and I think it seats about 2,000. >>
The Bronco as per it's own web page seats 3200 and yes it is reservec seating.
I'll be checking them frequently for the ticket sales dates!!!!
TTFN...
Glen
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:39:17 -0400
From: Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: self-produced (NDTC, NMBC)
Message-ID: <3536CEE4.F417DDBD@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > I can't think of a whole lot of bands that sound really really good
> > self-produced. Spock's Beard and Led Zeppelin come immediately to mind
> > (and many may disagree).
Well what about Steve Vai? Or Frank Zappa, for that matter. And hows about
Nuno, he produced most of Extreme's stuff (although I know he had Bob St. John
helping him out).
-Nate
-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Rood / IRC and VP chat room alias: Horizen mailto:nrood@utk.edu \ Excite Message Board alias: Quietus or try:nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu / ICQ: 6170743 ===================================================================== "There are two ways to get through life easily; to believe everything, or to believe nothing. Both release the mind from thinking." Earl Hindman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~------------------------------
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:47:31 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ay carambe! Message-ID: <01IVYEB8N39U0000Z4@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Date sent: 16-APR-1998 23:39:27
>had any trouble with them. The Sony products we have over here are made >in Japan. Are the US ones made in Mexico or something?
uh-oh, now you've done it. Eric Estrada's gonna beat your spine in with his head!
I believe that all sony is made in japan.
Panasonic, is like, so much better. I worked in the sight 'n' sound department at Service Merchandise(woooooh) and that was the feedback I got. Also, for god's sake, don't ever...EVER buy a GE phone. Panasonic is just a good, all-around company that can usually be counted on. Plus they don't make you put up with this "mini-plug" bullshit if you want an AC adapter for your walkman.
Happiness is john goodman in spiked heels doing the watusi on whoever's responsible for that one.
Deedlit, you're so right. It's all capitalism.
Joshka
............................................................ mailto: rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:44:24 -0700 From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: So Message-ID: <3536D018.484C@pacbell.net>
Chris Oates wrote: > > How about a YtseCaliCon? We can meet before the show in S.F. carpool in a > massive wave down to L.A. to catch those shows there, then drive back! :) > > ~Chris SOME of us just did that little run this past Tuesday for the Spock's Beard show....whew that took a lot out of us....maybe just a mini ytse-con in SF since there are lot's of us here in the Bay Area! PARTAY! /me does a little dance of joy...DT in May..what a birthday present.
Thanks GUYS! --
Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:01:33 -0300 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: self-produced (NDTC, NMBC) Message-ID: <3536C60C.F340D0D1@caribe.net>
Nathan Rood wrote:
> ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > > > I can't think of a whole lot of bands that sound really really good > > > self-produced. Spock's Beard and Led Zeppelin come immediately to mind > > > (and many may disagree). > > Well what about Steve Vai? Or Frank Zappa, for that matter. And hows about > Nuno, he produced most of Extreme's stuff (although I know he had Bob St. John > helping him out). > > -Nate >
Well said man!! Vai is great as a producer...his records always sound really great...ive always thought he should produce DT... JP will sound even more vai-ish...either that.. or some jazz producer.. cause jazz cd's always seem to sound real crisp
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:05:44 EDT From: Riffinator <Riffinator@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Liquid Tension Message-ID: <3f055bf.3536d519@aol.com>
Anyone heard the Liquid Tension Experiment yet? It Rocks!
-John
Liquid WHO?? Wait a minute.....oh yeah! So they're that new all-female Christian rap trio that everybody keeps yappin' about! :)
Anyway, I just wanted to ask if anyone has found out any new info about the *possible* show at the Jaxx. And if anybody is from the southeast (circa SC) that's planning on driving/flying/jogging up there.....email me, it'd be cool to hear from you(s)! <Atlanta just wasn't good enough, huh Mike?> :(
-Drew
P.S. - Just kidding about LTE...any half-wit knows they're a cover band for Hanson! >=]
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:17:05 +1000 From: bj reurich <reurich@pbq.com.au> To: abarrs@ozemail.com.au, freedom1@acenet.com.au, "Wayne" <wayne@lynx.net.au>, Subject: NEWS FLASH Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980417151705.0068a850@mail.pbq.com.au>
hey everyone... *s* just sending this to tell you i have a new email address hope you are well and if you havent written me in a while then... hurry up *lol* Take care, Julie
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:51:07 -0400 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: LTE Message-ID: <3536DFBB.FDC13051@ic3.ithaca.edu>
> Anyone heard the Liquid Tension Experiment yet? It Rocks! > > -John
No! We haven't! It was only released a month ago, and this is the Dream Theater mailing list! (In case you haven't noticed already, I'm being sarcastic.)
Chris -- Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools.
- King Crimson
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:10:56 PDT From: "Jani Liimatainen" <sirjani@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: More Savatage '94 Message-ID: <19980417051057.437.qmail@hotmail.com>
>I've got the video. It's Alex. No doubt about it. Only thing is, >I've heard that he biffed a few solos so badly, that Chris Caffrey >(Alex's replacement, and also on Gutter Ballet) actually overdubbed >solos for the CD and video of this performance. Just a rumour, >though.
Well,I wouldn't be that suprised.From what I've heard,Alex should be quite a wizard with that wiggle-stick of his...But this was my frist listening to him,and I was very disappointed with his work.There were some good bits,but there also was few pretty horrible...Hell,I tought he was better!
~Jani~
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3752 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980417010138.110496D-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
You all knew I couldn't let this go by without responding. So without further delay:
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
I was just watching a Saturday night Live rerun on Comedy Central and the > musical guest was Bon Jovi. It was from the Keep the Faith era, and they > played Bed of Roses and Wanted: Dead or Alive. Bed or Roses was > good--it's a very well-written song--but not a classic or anything.
I actually have this performance on video and still watch it every so often. Good thing too, because we don't get Comedy Central in Vermont. As for Bed Of Roses, it's definitely a classic. It just hasn't been around as long as some of their other stuff. Give it time. Probably my favorite Bon Jovi ballad (next to "Never Say Goodbye" and "Lie To Me").
> Wanted... simply rocked.
[various music theory stuff I don't understand deleted]
> Plus, you can say what you want about their music, but I think it would be > impossible for Bon Jovi to sound like crap. and they have the performance > thing DOWN.
Bon Jovi is, hands down, the best live band I have ever seen. I caught them on the Keep The Faith tour and they were simply flawless. Everyone was dead on, yet it wasn't sterile. You could feel the energy coming off the stage, and this was in an arena. There were jams, vocal improvisations, you name it. It was like they took the arena and turned it into a really big bar. Being the owner of several Bon Jovi bootlegs, I can honestly say that no Bon Jovi show is the same. They just have a certain chemistry that is magical. Much like OFB. These guys were just MEANT to play together.
In the middle of the song, Richie has four measures <about 16 > sec> to change from the Ovation 6/12 doubleneck to his Strat for the solo. > He does it--BARELY.
After the thousands of times they've played this song, he could probably do it in his sleep.
I think I was just appreciating the obvious talents of a former > musical giant, even after they relenquished their giant status.
They may not be the giants they once were, but they were one of the few hard rock bands that were still able to tour arenas succcessfully when grunge was at its height. That says something. Plus, from what I've seen, in Europe they are just as big as they ever were.
Richie
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:20:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3754 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980417011650.110496F-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> >I am continually amazed by > >the blend of Jon's and Richie's voices. Richie is the perfect foil for > >Jon. The guitar sound was big and ballsy. > > HAHAHA!!!! Oh my, that's a good one :) Thanks for the laugh Steve :) > Big and ballsy...hahaha. As compared to what? Hanson?
That was unnecessary. Don't you have a game of Excitebike to be playing?
Richie >
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:42:57 -0700 From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: SF DT Concert Message-ID: <01bd69c3$ace267e0$6d8c15cf@markphil>
>Pardon ? Oh, you must mean San FranCISCO. ;)
Yep, I meant San Francisco, but I was so happy I couldn't spell it.
Skipped San Francisco, but Palo Alto is a hop, skip and jump away. You *did* go to the show at the Edge, didn't you ?
Yes I did go the Edge show, It was my first DT concert, and I can say I'll never forget it! But the problem was I had to perform a Jazz gig at 7:30, so I had to rush down there, and just made it before the show started. So I didn't get as good view as I'd have liked but it kicked serious ass anyway. At least it being in SF I can kick around before the show begins.
>Tickets are already on sale, I'm told.
Where did you hear this? I've haven't been down to Tower, but I've looked at the BASS website and they don't have it up yet. Damn, I'm going to go down tomorrow to see if they do.
Mark
PS. If there are people getting together for the SF concert, post where they're going to be!
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:56:42 -0700 From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Symphony X Touring??? Ever? Message-ID: <01bd69c5$9871a3a0$6d8c15cf@markphil>
Jamers,
Does anyone know if Symphony X tours? And if they even tour the US? I though I read somewhere that they had not done a tour after DWoT so they could record ToO. Does that mean they are now going to do a tour? Damn I wish they would. I'd love to hear them live.
Mark
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:22:10 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Oi! Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980417172210.006c2d2c@powerup.com.au>
>Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:52:01 -0600 >From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Mumblings and Jumblings. >Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980416135200.006eeee0@postoffice.syspac.com>
That's *my* subject line, dammit! Not that I'm offended or anything... after all, I stole it from Nicko McBrain.
I suppose I'm just flattered that I've inspired someone in such a way. It really is a beautiful thing. Really.
Spiff
NP: Primal Fear, "Primal Fear"
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:33:58 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Speak To Me Message-ID: <199804170734.KAA21904@cch.estcard.ee>
> :), as well as many jammers. But I always thought that Speak To Me had a > really strong U2 influence, too. AND the demo version Take Away My Pain,
"Tell me what you're thinkin' / tell me what you're thinkin' / tell me what you're feelin' inside..." I liked it immediately. I also heard the U2 immediately. Now that I think of it, I didn't hear much of it in "The Way It Used To Be", but my U2 experience is more recent. (Achtung Baby, Pop.)
Raitz
"Hey, I'm a mental patient, I'm supposed to act out!" - Brad Pitt as Jeffrey Goines in "Twelve Monkeys"
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:37:04 -0700 From: Rick Audet <ytse@concentric.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: SF DT Concert Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980417013659.007692cc@pop3.concentric.net>
Mark Philpot wrote:
>>Tickets are already on sale, I'm told. > >Where did you hear this? I've haven't been down to Tower, but I've looked >at the BASS website and they don't have it up yet. Damn, I'm going to go >down tomorrow to see if they do.
I understand they're not available through BASS. You have to go either to Maritime Hall box office, call them and charge by phone, or go to Guitar Center and pick them up there. I don't know where else they're available yet.
Rick Audet San Francisco
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 98 13:11:54 -0400 From: "Rosinski, Michal" <rosinmi@warsaw.whitecase.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The Way It Used To Be Message-ID: <A47537350122450F@smtp.whitecase.com>
Hi ytsejammers! I can't see the connections with U2. For me the beginning of this track is similar to Pink Floyd music style. Will anyone from the Jam be in Berlin at 25th of April? There will be the Fates Warning show this day. Mike
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:17:49 -0400 From: "Bill" <stickboy@csionline.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dream Theater Show Message-ID: <199804171219.IAA00282@moocow.csionline.net>
I read in a magazine that Dream Theater was playing May 7 at the Birch Hill nightclub in Old Bridge, NJ. Could somebody let me know if this is true and if it is true is anyone from the list looking for a way to get there? I am from central Jersey about 40 minutes away from the club. If anyone wants to go let me know. Thanks. Bill.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:43:57 EST From: "Joshua P. Walkowicz" <jpwalkowicz@freh-03.adpc.purdue.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: other Magna Carta bands Message-ID: <3C01D9658A@freh-03.adpc.purdue.edu>
I was looking through the Magna Carta catalog that came with LTE, and I was wondering if anyone has heard any of them on there (I already have some Magellan and Shadow Gallery, so don't bother). Mainly, I was curious about Cairo and Tempest. Tempest sounds really interesting with the Celtic undertones in the music. Does anyone have anything of theirs?
Also, does anyone have Tyranny by Shadow Gallery, and if so, how is it?
Thanks, Josh jpwalkowicz@pfrem.purdue.edu
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