YTSEJAM Digest 3757
Today's Topics:
1) RE: YTSEJAM digest list - unsubscribing
by "Marty and Lisa Johnson" <martyj@erols.com>
2) Magna Carta/Tempest/SG-Tyr
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
3) RE: other Magna Carta bands
by Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
4) SUBSCRIBE
by "Kris Marentette" <kmarentette@golder.com>
5) SG
by Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
6) Re: Sonic Youth
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
7) Re: Sony Sucks...NDTC
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
8) Re: ay carambe!
by Martinez Francois Juan Ramon-IND <jramon@servidor.unam.mx>
9) Sony, self-produced band
by K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com>
10) Ibanez Inferno (NDTC) - Guitar players only - Please help
by K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com>
11) Symphony X
by KyleTaraG <KyleTaraG@aol.com>
12) King Crimson on video
by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
13) UK press coverage
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
14) Symphony X Touring??? Ever?
by T_Karrde@prodigy.com (MR STEVE J VOGEL)
15)
by "Odom, C. Brett" <cbodom@fedins.com>
16) Re: Dream Theater Show
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
17) Re: other Magna Carta bands
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
18) RE: other Magna Carta bands
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
19) New Mailing List!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:16:46 -0400
From: "Marty and Lisa Johnson" <martyj@erols.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest list - unsubscribing
Message-ID: <000901bd6a03$128e3e40$7a8faccf@gandalf.erols.com>
Hey, I can't find any information on how to unsubscribe to
the list. We are changing Internet providers, and this account
will not be good after April 17, 1998. If the moderator
could please take me off the list, I'd appreciate it. I'll
hook up again, after we get a new account.
Thanks,
Marty Johnson
martyj@erols.com
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:39:28 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Magna Carta/Tempest/SG-Tyr
Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34124A915@ms.kallback.com>
> From: "Joshua P. Walkowicz" <jpwalkowicz@freh-03.adpc.purdue.edu>
> Mainly, I was curious about Cairo and Tempest. Tempest sounds really
> interesting with the Celtic undertones in the music. Does anyone
> have anything of theirs?
Tempest, to me, is Celitc first, prog second. Way too Celtic for me. I
don't
even see how they got signed to MC. I'll sell you thier latest for $8.
> Also, does anyone have Tyranny by Shadow Gallery, and if so, how is
> it?
I like it. Some call it cheesy, especially the lyrics.
Trevor
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:11:16 -0700
From: Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: other Magna Carta bands
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980417071116.00a446b0@mail.legato.com>
Josh inquired:
Also, does anyone have Tyranny by Shadow Gallery, and if so, how is
it?
Josh,
Actually Tyranny has a release date set of Sept. 25, 1998. So here I am
with baited breath
waiting patiently with lots of others for this CD!
Toodles....back to the Shadows I go!
Coldfire
GalleryMistress@dreamt.org
Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List
http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows
"Fly where your dreams go....." Cyrstalline Dreams - Shadow Gallery
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:10 -0800
From: "Kris Marentette" <kmarentette@golder.com>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: SUBSCRIBE
Message-ID: <199804171414.HAA03485@odin.ax.com>
I would like to subscribe to the YTSEJAM digest. If you can do his for me it
would be appreciated.
Kris Marentette
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:23:38 -0400
From: Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: SG
Message-ID: <353765E9.3F4B8BEB@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Also, does anyone have Tyranny by Shadow Gallery, and if so, how is
> it?
Tyranny will not be released until September 25th. As for how it sounds, why
dontcha ask Brendt!?
-Nate
-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Rood / IRC and VP chat room alias: Horizen mailto:nrood@utk.edu \ Excite Message Board alias: Quietus or try:nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu / ICQ: 6170743 ===================================================================== "There are two ways to get through life easily; to believe everything, or to believe nothing. Both release the mind from thinking." Earl Hindman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~------------------------------
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:34:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Sonic Youth Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980417103219.15386A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
I happened to catch Sonic Youth on Saturday Night Live a while back, and they were absolutely horrid - unendurable, even. They are easily the second worst band I have ever seen (first being a band called Komeda, that opened for Ben Folds at Irving Plaza and caused me to actually *leave* downstairs until they were done.
Of course, this is all my opinion.........:P
-Al
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Christopher J. Cerminara wrote:
> > Hey everyone, > I was wondering if anyone out there knew anything about Sonic Youth. > They're playing at Movin' On here at Penn State next week, and I wondered > if they were worth checking out, although I plan on going anyway. Thanks > in advance. > > Chris >
===================================================================== b l i n d l a b o r s t h e b l i n d a n d I a m u n w i l l i n g t o u n c o v e r m y e y e s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com OR theprof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:39:13 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Sony Sucks...NDTC Message-ID: <35376991.2620@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>: > I would not buy a sony reciever though.
heh :) Here's my story :)
I have a Sony model whatever receiver. One day a little flashing "P" comes on the display. I'm thinking it's Polarity or Power? Something in the power supply? You turn the power button off, and it enters this cycle the surround sound led indicator fading up from a dim glow to a bright shine, then a relay can be heard clicking. This cycle repeats infinitely it seems. Accompanied will the relay click now and then, a pop can be heard in the speaker. This thing is serious messed in the head :)
If I turn the power button on, a high pitched squealing kind of sound can be heard during the power on shiz, before the relay for the sound kicks on. Sometimes the unti will power up fine, without the squeal. Usually though, if the squeal is heard during power up, then as soon as the relay kicks in the that little red flashing "P" will appear and the unit won't work. Also, if I manage to get the thing working, after some random amount of time, the sound will just cut out, and the "P" arrives.
Look, I paid like $200 for it like 7 years ago. It's a 100W unit, I don't really care at this point about it, I just want to hear some music!
So naturally, the delicate side of me decides to experiment, hehehehe
I discover that during the first few seconds of power, most improtantly before that relay engages, that if I apply one or more smacks to the right location of the unit, until that squeal goes away, then the unit powers up.
Ok, here we go :) I'm listening to FII for the first time, just getting off on it. The thing cuts out. I curse. I go over to the thing, power off, power on, and deliver a PUNCH to the side of this thing,during power up.
I am THIS close to tossing this thing out the window! I begin taking all of society's collective anger at life, out on this amplifier. It's probably a 30 cent diode or something, so I guess I should go get it repaired right? Naw, it's more fun to show it who is boss :)
Suffice it to say, there's quite a big dent on the side of this thing :)
Deny me my music? Stand back! I am strong! I am woman :)
Now does Sony suck? You tell me :) I dunno, it's pooched, but with some serious abuse, it works! Should a delicate piece of equipment continue to work after being slapped upside the head repeatedly? hehehehe
Gimme my old Technics receiver back!!! With that two ton heavy analog dial thing to tune with. I'll also take JBL, Onkyo, Yamaha, Bang & Olufson, KLH anyday!
*------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
as the sunrise comes down the doorway and the snow white falls like rain down an alley i'll be sending my light your way you are the doorway you are the *DOOR* - "The Doorway" - Spock's Beard
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:56:59 -0600 (CST) From: Martinez Francois Juan Ramon-IND <jramon@servidor.unam.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ay carambe! Message-ID: <199804171556.JAA00506@servidor.unam.mx>
>had any trouble with them. The Sony products we have over here are made >in Japan. Are the US ones made in Mexico or something?
I live in Mexico and I can tell you no Sony products are made here, and if they were... why would they be worse than the Japan made ones???, please do not discriminate third world countries so easily!, much stuff is made here in Mexico that is exported all over the world with very high quality standards. Besides, Sony must have a quality control so all the equipment made by them no matter where in the world meets exactly the same standards, whether they are good or bad.
Juan Ramon.
:)
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:18:02 -0400 (EDT) From: K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sony, self-produced band Message-ID: <199804171518.LAA23025@camel8.mindspring.com>
On the Eve of Bestial Devastation, Mosh said: >>I wonder what brand of DAT Mike Portnoy has. It always seems to come in= in a >>pinch :o) > >It might've been a Sony in the rack that I saw that they had, or a= Panasonic >SV series Pro... those are the standard.
Ummmmm I thought the standard would be Tascam. That's what I have :-) It does eat some DAT tapes every once in a while though, but I think that was my fault.
Someone mentioned self produced bands... I think Queensr=FFche's Promised= Land is the best example of how a band can be self produced, sound great and put out what is arguably (very arguably for some, not me) the best album in their career. Their next CD, HitNF, had a bunch of people giving oppinions (producer, new sound engineer) and though I still like the CD a bit, one can't deny it was definitely a step down compositional and sounding wise... Plus, self produced doesn't mean you're doing it in your backyard. You could still use a top-notch studio, the best engineers and it would be called self-produced. While the role of the producer is not something that is clearly defined, it is assumed that he is the person that takes all the decisions or has the last word in them, regarding sounds, arrangement changes, performance and artistic direction.
Rah. ____ ____ ____ /\ /\ /\/\ /\ / / /\/ /\/ /\\ /\ /__/ / / \/ \__/ / / /___/ /___/ \\/ \____ /\ \ / / / \/ / / / / /\ \ // \ / / \ / / / / / / / / \___\// / / / / / /__ /__ / / / / / /\ / / / \ \ \ \ \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ / / \___\_\_\__\\__\__\___\_\___\_\___\_\__\__/ / \_________________________________________/ None of us is as strong as all of us.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:31:59 -0400 (EDT) From: K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ibanez Inferno (NDTC) - Guitar players only - Please help Message-ID: <199804171531.LAA15279@camel8.mindspring.com>
Hey guys,
Something funny happened both to me and Frank, who also plays guitar in my band. Both our Ibanez, at the same week, simply went completely off setup! Being more experienced with setting up guitars, I took his and adjusted it - couple turns on the tross rod (his was too tight), and it took a lot of adjusting to the Floyd Rose because it went completely off - as if the strings turned much heavier all of a sudden. I got it all fixed though.
Yet my 7-string is beyond repair right now, unless I get somebody to produce me tighter springs I guess. I have no more room to screw the backplate inside the body and the Floyd Rose is still far from flat (and I used to have it actually so tight that the tremolo wouldn't go back, only down - like Eddie Van Halen does to his Floyds).
I know it probably happened due to weather changes (this is Florida we're talking about - even though Frank's was in the case all the time), but if anybody had this happen and can give me suggestions of what I can do, please e-mail me privately, I appreciate it greatly...
Back to our regularly scheduled jam...
Christian. ____ ____ ____ /\ /\ /\/\ /\ / / /\/ /\/ /\\ /\ /__/ / / \/ \__/ / / /___/ /___/ \\/ \____ /\ \ / / / \/ / / / / /\ \ // \ / / \ / / / / / / / / \___\// / / / / / /__ /__ / / / / / /\ / / / \ \ \ \ \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ / / \___\_\_\__\\__\__\___\_\___\_\___\_\__\__/ / \_________________________________________/ None of us is as strong as all of us.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:40:08 EDT From: KyleTaraG <KyleTaraG@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Symphony X Message-ID: <46c13b53.353777da@aol.com>
<< Does anyone know if Symphony X tours? And if they even tour the US? I though I read somewhere that they had not done a tour after DWoT so they could record ToO. Does that mean they are now going to do a tour? Damn I wish they would. I'd love to hear them live. >> As I understand it, Symphony X has never played a live show (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). The organizers of the Powermad Festival are trying to get SX to headline this year and apparently the band are in rehearsals now to try and work out their live show. Hopefully this will translate into a full tour, as it seems this band is getting a pretty good (and well deserved) following. DT:L.A.:1 month....yeahbaby! -Kyle
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:04:20 PDT From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: King Crimson on video Message-ID: <19980417160420.28182.qmail@hotmail.com>
Saw a live video of King Crimson in a local record store today.Canīt remember the name but it was definitely from the Thrak-tour.I was wondering does anyone here have it, and is it worth buying
-Vilzu-
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:51:32 +0100 (BST) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: UK press coverage Message-ID: <Marcel-1.42-0417155132-b49rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
> From: "Charlie Farrell" <charlie_farrell@email.msn.com> > Subject: UK Tour various: Manchester/Nottingham/Press > > Hey Graham (Borland)! How many interviews did the guys do? How did our > letter (or email) campaign go?
Umm, not sure . . . Myung is interviewed/transcribed in two bass magazines at the moment (Bassist has a transcription of Burning My Soul by Nikki Brooks). One of the guitar magazines (I forget which one) has also told me that they have a Petrucci feature coming up. I think there may be one or two more things in the pipeline.
> The response I got to my email from Metal Hammer wasn't promising!
Did we seriously expect anything else? :-(
By the way, Rock City (http://www.rock-city.co.uk) have now removed all of the Dream Theater posts from their message board. Bunch of wankers.
Time for me to write a vitriolic letter to Kerrang! and Metal Hammer again.
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:02:58, -0500 From: T_Karrde@prodigy.com (MR STEVE J VOGEL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Symphony X Touring??? Ever? Message-ID: <199804171602.MAB02208@mime4.prodigy.com>
>> Does anyone know if Symphony X tours? And if they even tour the US? I though I read somewhere that they had not done a tour after DWoT so they could record ToO. Does that mean they are now going to do a tour? Damn I wish they would. I'd love to hear them live.<<
Have they toured?? Not since Russ joined the band... Will they tour?? Absolutely... Possibly Mid June
____
Carpe Diem Steve
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:44:00 -0700 From: "Odom, C. Brett" <cbodom@fedins.com> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Message-ID: <Megw.2146479@persia.fabrik.com>
>------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:30:36 -0400 (EDT) >From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: enough already >Message-ID: <199804160130.VAA19841@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu >come on, enough... first we get rehash 423412312.4 of the Bahr wars, >which of course now lead to the "boots are bad for a band" vs those >of >us who like live stuff... enough, please let it stop, let it all >end... I can't stand reading though 10 digests of useless drivel >(sp) >to have no content whatsoever, other than Mike (P) posting about how >the club in England royally fucked up... >-- >+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ >| A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | >| will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | >| --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | >+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ > Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu >Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ >Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org AMEN! Thank God I'm not the only one seeing the trend. Preach on Brother Mike!!
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:18:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dream Theater Show Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980417121808.28903A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
OK, I am about 15 minutes or less or maybe more from the club. Where in central jersey do you live? I live in Woodbridge. I want to go, have yet to get the tix yet, but I am there if I can get them, I don't care if I need to walk my blind ass to the show.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:20:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: other Magna Carta bands Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980417121914.28903B-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
I can comment on Cairo, as I was heavily involved with Magna Carta through my college radio station. If you like keyboard oriented prog rock similar but not alike ELP, then you will love this band. Tempest didn't do anything for me, but I guess if you like celtic music, then you're good to go.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:21:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: other Magna Carta bands Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980417122028.28903C-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Speaking of SG, who can comment on their first release? I only have Carved in Stone, but i would consider buying their first album if it were good. I like the keys in CIS. Is the first album similar or less keybioard driven?
-- Damon Fibraio, damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:42:34 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Mailing List! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980417133558.14829A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Ok, breaking the threads of how Sony products are bad or how bootlegging sucks or how celtic music can or can't be interesting, I'd now like to invite you fans of more extreme metal to participate on a new mailing list that's just came to existence this night. It's called Nectar and is dedicated to Opeth.
The motivation to such a list is mainly the fact that it's very hard to find information about underground bands (even those extremely progressive bands that existed in back in the 70's fit this category) and the Internet can help discussions and bring the fans closer to each other.
So, if you'd like to join this mailing list, here's the vital information:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nectar, Opeth's mailing list, is UP! Its address is: * rbrito-nectar-request@linux.ime.usp.br (to (un)subscribe); * rbrito-nectar@linux.ime.usp.br (to post messages to the list). To subscribe, just send an empty message with the word subscribe to the appropriate address (notice that you should know these addresses). To unsubscribe, just send a message to the same address, with the word unsubscribe in it (in the subject line or the body of the message). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Hope to see you on the list, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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