YTSEJAM digest 3763

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Date: Sun Apr 19 1998 - 19:11:24 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) FII demos
     by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
      2) simple logic (was: Re: SUBSCRIBE)
     by Der Herr Bodinger <bodinger@rocketmail.com>
      3) Which PF album next?
     by Tom Baddley <tbaddley@ontheair.com>
      4) Re: Pink Floyd/Genesis
     by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
      5) :-)
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
      6) Re: Pink Floyd / Genesis
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
      7) Re: simple logic (was: Re: SUBSCRIBE)
     by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
      8) Re: Pink Floyd / Genesis (fwd)
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
      9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3761
     by DOPDAT <DOPDAT@aol.com>
     10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3762
     by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
     11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3762
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
     12) Comas / Philly / Research
     by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3762
     by Robert Linus Koehl <robertk@jove.acs.unt.edu>
     14) Dream Theater Drums Tablatures
     by Javier Barber Domingo <dbarber@ext.step.es>
     15) Music that Kicks Ass - Thelonious Monk
     by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
     16) Re: Pink Floyd / Genesis
     by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
     17) Re: Dream Theater Drums Tablatures
     by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
     18) attempt to make DT show in Philly/NYC
     by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 10:28:14 -0700
    From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: FII demos
    Message-ID: <353A342E.5739@dreamt.org>

    Doesn't anyone have a GOOD copy of Raise The Knife or of Where Are You
    Now that they can put in mp3 format instead of these shitty .ra files?
    Also, does anyone have the demos for New Millennium, Peruvian Skies,
    Anna Lee, or Trial Of Tears? I have to have them!
     
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    "Are you gonna bark all day, little -----
            doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ----
            bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ----
            Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - --
    "In our life there's "if" - - - - - - -
            In our beliefs there's "lie" - - -- - -- - -
            In our business there's "sin" -- - - - - - - - --
            In our bodies there's "die" ---- - - - ----
                Megadeth-"This Was My Life" ---- ------------- ----
                            Brian -----
                    DreamNDay@dreamt.org
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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 08:27:05 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Der Herr Bodinger <bodinger@rocketmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: simple logic (was: Re: SUBSCRIBE)
    Message-ID: <19980419152705.9270.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com>

    ---Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> wrote:
    > send a mail message with the subject asdf
    > to:ytsejam-request@ax.com
    > the body should say:
    > subscribe ytsejam@ax.com yourname

    Thanx for the info, it helps me a lot!

    ...but wait, since i need to subscribe i'm not on the jam now....
       ....If i'm not on the jam now, I can't read this message....
     ....therefore, next time use private email so i get the info....

    yes, i can be a wiseass sometimes, what of it?

    chuck
    ===
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    unpaid overtime" - Catbert
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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 10:50:26 -0600
    From: Tom Baddley <tbaddley@ontheair.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Which PF album next?
    Message-ID: <001301bd6bb3$42bf6740$280537a6@ibm.net.tbaddley>

    >I've allready have the following Pink Floyd albums :

    >- Pulse
    >- The Devision Bell
    >- The Wall
    >- Wish You Where Here
    >- Dark Side Of The Moon

    >So which of their other albums should I buy ?

    Personally, I'd add _Animals_, which has been highly underrated in my
    nipple. My girlfriend can't stand the pig noises, but I love this entire
    album. You might also want to check out their Pre-DSotM stuff. Some of it
    plays very well against today's ambient/electronica. Try _Ummagumma_ or
    _Mettle_. Pretty sick stuff for the late 60's / early 70's.

    Tom Baddley

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:10:43 -0700
    From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Pink Floyd/Genesis
    Message-ID: <353A5A43.17FB@idt.net>

    > Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:20:39 -0700
    > From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
    > To: ytsejam@ax.com
    > Subject: Pink Floyd / Genesis
    > Message-ID: <353A4077.3C70@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I need your suggestions.
    >
    > I've allready have the following Pink Floyd albums :
    >
    > - Pulse
    > - The Devision Bell
    > - The Wall
    > - Wish You Where Here
    > - Dark Side Of The Moon
    >
    > So which of their other albums should I buy ?

    If you don't have Animals, you NEED it.

    > Another thing:
    > I would like to know your favorite song from each Genesis album by Genesis
    > (mostly their latest 5 studio albums).
    >
    > My favorites are :
    >
    > The Dividing Line from Calling All Stations
    > Driving The Last Spike from We Can Dance
    > Domino from Invisible Touch
    > Home by The Sea (Part I and II) from Genesis
    > Lamb Lies Down On Broadway from Lamb Lies Down On Boradway
    > Firth Of Fifth from ???
    > The Musical Box from ???

    The last 5 albums were pretty much AOR stuff. Ya GOTTA have Supper's
    Ready, the live version from Seconds Out on the top of your list. Return
    Of The Giant Hogweed is a classic as well, All the Gabriel era stuff is
    pretty intense. Pick up Selling England By The Pound, Foxtrot or
    Nursery Cryme, you won't be disappointed.
    >
    > NP : Stratovarius - Visions
    >
    > Arash
    > --
    John DiBella
    President/Xanadu Records
    http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html

    Dream Theater Tourdate Archive
    http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/grunge/49/DreamT.html

    * In the stream of consciuosness
    There is a river crying
    Living comes much easier
    Once we admit, we're dying *

    Dream Theater

    * Be EXCELLENT to each other! *

    Bill S. Preston, Esq.

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:00:42 -0400
    From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: :-)
    Message-ID: <353A3BCA.D928FCC7@ameritech.net>

    Yes yes yes yes!

    Got my tickets for the 5-12-98 show at St. Andrews (Detroit)!

    Anybody know who the opening act is?

    NOTE: According to the chap at the Ticketbastard counter.... only about
    200 DT purchases at that point (I got them at 8:15 Saturday night).

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:27:17 -0300 (EST)
    From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Pink Floyd / Genesis
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980419152621.4960A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Arash Ashouriha wrote:

    > Firth Of Fifth from ???

    Show" is indescritible.

            []s, Roger...

    --
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
      Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
      Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
       Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:35:21 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: simple logic (was: Re: SUBSCRIBE) Message-ID: <199804191835.NAA93172@mail.mty.itesm.mx>

    At 08:54 AM 19/04/98 -0700, Der Herr Bodinger wrote: > >---Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> wrote: >> send a mail message with the subject asdf >> to:ytsejam-request@ax.com >> the body should say: >> subscribe ytsejam@ax.com yourname > >Thanx for the info, it helps me a lot! > >...but wait, since i need to subscribe i'm not on the jam now.... > ....If i'm not on the jam now, I can't read this message.... > ....therefore, next time use private email so i get the info.... > >

    c'mon, I already wrote it was a mistake and that was supposed to be a private mail....I just didnt see it was going to be delivered to the list insted of the sender...I just changed my email software again...Im still learning.... --- Alan Estrada Adler http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do your next." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx http://members.xoom.com/Petrucci/

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:41:04 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Pink Floyd / Genesis (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980419153952.5094A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    I don't know what happened, but here's the entire message I tried to send.

    []s, Roger...

    ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:27:17 -0300 (EST) ]From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> Reply-To: rbrito@ime.usp.br To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Pink Floyd / Genesis

    On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Arash Ashouriha wrote:

    > Firth Of Fifth from ???

    It's from "Selling England by the Pound". Incredible album. "Cinema Show" is indescritible.

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:01:08 EDT From: DOPDAT <DOPDAT@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3761 Message-ID: <7a162d92.353a49f6@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-04-18 23:18:07 EDT, you write:

    << Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:46:30 -0700 To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Wake Of Magellan in US? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980418144630.008867f0@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> >> sorry dude....i'm new at this okay? cut me some slack!

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:44:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3762 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980419154128.24948A-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

    > >Who really gives a toss about this, grammar crap ? > > You don't need a coma there. > > :b > > josh

    Er, coma? I don't really think you need a coma anywhere, but it sometimes just happens after really bad car accidents.

    -C#

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:01:53 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3762 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980419175942.5646A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Christian P Kremo wrote:

    > > >Who really gives a toss about this, grammar crap ? > > > > You don't need a coma there. > > > > :b > > > > josh > > Er, coma? I don't really think you need a coma anywhere, but it > sometimes just happens after really bad car accidents.

    Well, it depends. If you're not used to drinking, and you pick up a day to drink your ass off you may also end up with an alcoholic coma. :-)

    BTW, anybody here remembers the movie Coma? :-) Damn hospitals. :-)

    > -C#

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 17:10:49 -0400 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Comas / Philly / Research Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980419171049.00b862b4@postoffice.ptd.net>

    At 08:41 AM 4/19/98 -0700, josh wrote: >>Who really gives a toss about this, grammar crap ? > >You don't need a coma there.

    That's spelled "comma". Two "m's". He sure doesn't need a coma there. :-o

    Anyone going to the Philly show, please e-mail me as plans for that mini-ytsecon develop . . .

    Lastly, I posted a while ago about doing a research paper on Dream Theater. I even e-mailed MP and DS in hope that they might have a suggestion or 3. Let me say first that my high school sucks, and this paper doesn't *have* to be . . . hmm . . . like most Senior year term papers. (That doesn't mean I still don't want to write a great paper, of course.) This is why I have every confidence that, provided with enough *SOURCES*, I will be able to churn out at *least* a pretty decent 5-7 page paper, if not an "A plus".

    If anyone on this list has anything that might be a good source for this paper, which will be approached biographically, I'd appreciate private e-mail about it. I've already considered stuff like the FAQ and the UACM biographies, but I need MORE!! Someone has already offered to send me a few articles from Guitar Player, but I know there are others from Guitar World, Metal Edge, and wherever, and there's also the fanzine . . . Thanks in advance for any help.

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:24:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Linus Koehl <robertk@jove.acs.unt.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3762 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980419161517.15384B-100000@jove.acs.unt.edu>

    On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> posted:

    > I've allready have the following Pink Floyd albums : > - Pulse > - The Division Bell > - The Wall > - Wish You Where Here > - Dark Side Of The Moon > So which of their other albums should I buy ?

    Well, you've got Pulse, Division Bell, and Dark Side, so as far as I'm concerned, you've got all the best one's they ever put out. You might want to collect both the Cassette, CD, and Video releases of Pulse. The cassette has an extra track that isn't on the CD (yes, you DID read that correctly. The CASSETTE has more songs than the disc) and the video has more than either of them. You also might want to get "Momentary Lapse of Reason." This was the predecessor to Division Bell. It contained "Learning to Fly," and "Sorrow." It was pretty good. You also might check out "Delicate Sound of Thunder." It's another concert two-disc set. It's not anywhere near as good as Pulse, but it's still quite fun.

    That's all I can think of. There are alot that you don't have. "Piper at the Gates of Dawn," "Meddle" "Ummagumma," "Final Cut" etc. But most of them arent worth owning. Pink Floyd really didn't get good until they got rid of that control freak Waters. They got lucky with "Darkside" "Wall," and "Wish You Were Here," but besides that, nothing they did before 1987 was really all that good.

    Robert

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 22:31:53 +0000 From: Javier Barber Domingo <dbarber@ext.step.es> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater Drums Tablatures Message-ID: <353A7B58.DC830028@ext.step.es>

    Hi, i'm a big fan of Mike Portnoy and Dream Theater, and i want to get any Dream Theater Drums Tablature. If anyone know any web, please, say to me. Thanks. Escuse me but my english is horrible... : )

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 17:54:11 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Music that Kicks Ass - Thelonious Monk Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980419175411.0079cb60@pop3.afn.org>

    I was thinking last week that this would be King's X, but I've been listening to a lot of jazz and wanted to share the experience. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorite piano players. As the song by Victor Wooten says, "He plays the the wrong notes right." Monk is perfect proof of there being no wrong notes in jazz. He throws notes together so dissonant it's heartbreaking (I love dissonance). And the man has such rhythm. He swings like the proverbial motherfucker.

    Here's Monk on solo piano playing one of his most well known tunes, "Round Midnight." I think it's a good summing up of his style. The sample can be found at http://www.afn.org/~afn39111/round_midnight.zip. I do not know what LP it originated on...I got it from Monk's Greatest Hits.

    The 1.5 meg mp3 is in 56kbs 44k mono, because I don't have the disk space for more, but mono doesn't really hurt because it's only meant as a sample. It still sounds clear. The file is zipped to avoid cooking of the mp3 by Netscape.

    A week from Sunday, it will disappear from the face of the earth.

    -=- I know a monster when I see one in the mirror.

    --------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:34:37 -0800 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Pink Floyd / Genesis Message-ID: <v01540b01b1603909f6dc@[205.134.227.19]>

    Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> wrote;

    >I've allready have the following Pink Floyd albums : > >- Pulse >- The Devision Bell >- The Wall >- Wish You Where Here >- Dark Side Of The Moon > >So which of their other albums should I buy ?

    Animals! It's my most favourite Pink Floyd album. This album is Roger Water's. Oh...and 2 more "A Saucerful of Secrets" and "Meddle".

    >Another thing: >I would like to know your favorite song from each Genesis album by Genesis >(mostly their latest 5 studio albums). > >My favorites are : > >The Dividing Line from Calling All Stations >Driving The Last Spike from We Can Dance >Domino from Invisible Touch >Home by The Sea (Part I and II) from Genesis >Lamb Lies Down On Broadway from Lamb Lies Down On Boradway >Firth Of Fifth from ???

    ]From Selling England by the pound.

    >The Musical Box from ???

    ]From Nursery Cryme.

    For me, it's hard to choose fav song from each album because I do like Genesis only in Gabriel era.

    Regards, AE

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:34:42 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater Drums Tablatures Message-ID: <16f756ac.353a7c05@aol.com>

    i never heard of drum tabs, maybe cause it's not that hard to figure out what someone is playing on drums, especially if your a drummer. but hell what do i know? im just a guitarist/keyboardist.. well, i am an air drummer too, but i dont think that counts

    Rocky

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    Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:41:26 -0400 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: attempt to make DT show in Philly/NYC Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980419184122.00731384@maila.wm.edu>

    Aight, folks, it looks like I'm going to be making a serious shot at getting to one of the shows in either Philly, NYC, or Jersey. However, I'm at school in the south of Virginia, and don't think I have the money for the train - in desperation of course, all things are possible. However, if anyone else is heading up in that direction from vaguely my area, PUH-LEASE lemme know. Please be forewarned, that I go is not certain, but intensely probable; which show is still entirely up in the air; however, 7th looks pretty much out of it, since my friend who I want to come with me has an exam on the 8th. So, that's all folks. Keep your fingers crossed for me!!!

    Alex (the chick :P)

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