YTSEJAM Digest 3758
Today's Topics:
1) Jason Becker- Perspective
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
2) Re: Other Magna Carta Bands
by AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
3) Re: Mumblings and Jumblings
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
4) self producing, SG's 1st disc
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
5) Chris And Kevin's Excellent Adventure
by Lucas Perroni <gzr@uground.org>
6) Re: Sony is crap
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
7) Re: SF DT Concert
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
8) Re: King Crimson on video
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
9)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
10) Peter Hammill live
by Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
11) Re: Sony Sucks...NDTC
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
12) Re: Sony, self-produced band
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3752
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
14) Re: other Magna Carta bands (Cairo & Tempest)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
15) Consumer Electronics (NDTC)
by AL <al@isd.net>
16) Re: DP/DT/ELP
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
17) Re: Sonic Youth
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:57:26 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: Ytse Jam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Jason Becker- Perspective
Message-ID: <353789F6.AAC7C4E2@caribe.net>
I just got to buying this album yesterday.. and all i can say is..
WOW...
This is truly an inspiring record...
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com
Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:17:57 EDT
From: AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Other Magna Carta Bands
Message-ID: <67c9e0ca.35378ec7@aol.com>
Greetings, fellow DT-worshippers...
In a message dated 4/17/98 8:56:39 AM EDT, "Joshua P. Walkowicz"
<jpwalkowicz@freh-03.adpc.purdue.edu> wrote:
<< I was looking through the Magna Carta catalog that came with LTE, and I was
wondering if anyone has heard any of them on there (I already have some
Magellan and Shadow Gallery, so don't bother). Mainly, I was curious about
Cairo and Tempest. Tempest sounds really interesting with the Celtic
undertones in the music. Does anyone
have anything of theirs?
Also, does anyone have Tyranny by Shadow Gallery, and if so, how is it? >>
Well, "Tyranny" STILL isn't out, though there are rumblings that it will
finally see the light of day sometime this year; I'm sure it will be
excellent, though. After all, there was quite a gap between the first SG
album and "Carved in Stone," and we all know what a quantum leap that album
was for the band...
As for Cairo: run out and pick up both of their albums NOW. Especially
"Conflict and Dreams," the new one, which is absolutely phenomenal, IMO. Bret
Douglas is a first-class vocalist, Alec Fuhrman is the master of elegant
whammy-bar abuse, Mark Robertson is one of the five best keyboard players on
the planet (I'm serious), new guy Jamie Browne has some seriously nimble bass-
playin' fingers, and Jeff Brockman is a drummer of exceptional power and
finesse. Together, they make prog-rock in the classic tradition of ELP, Yes,
and early Genesis and Kansas, with elaborate, intricate arrangements, lots of
tempo changes, and tons of wild solos and tradeoffs. Miss these albums at
your peril.
Of course, that's just my opinion...I could be wrong. (Thank you, Dennis
Miller.)
Tempest? If you like that kind of Celtic flavor in your cup o' prog tea,
then by all means, try them out too. Personally, I think Steve Morse
integrates that influence a lot better in his compositions, but hey, that's
just me. Your mileage will probably vary.
-- Jeff :^)
NP: PFM, Disc Three of the Four-CD Boxed Set "10 Anni Live: 1971-1981"
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:53:11 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Mumblings and Jumblings
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980417144306.15278A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Nigel Bridgeman wrote:
> Rogerio said:
>
> >> Enchant officially rock. And so do Jethro Tull. And so do Opeth.
> >
> > Of course Opeth is cool. :-) Expect a mailing list in the future,
> >as soon as I figure out how to configure this damn ezmlm (the list
> >manager).
> >
> > I don't know of any other death/black metal bands with mailing
> >lists, BTW. :-)
>
> Are Opeth really a death metal band? Or just a metal band with death
I never thought they were, because they don't have the usual
elements of a death metal band, nor grindcore, nor black metal. They have
some of the elements, but some elements from progressive bands also (who
can deny that? The songs have lots of variations ranging from plain
acoustic guitar to not-so-noisy guitars, lots of different melodies in
each song) and even some very distant elements from fusion.
And if you're into "journey" songs (that is, songs longer than 10
minutes), this is a band for you. :-)
> vocals? Because they have some really cool non-death metal stuff on both
> albums (how many albums do they have? Just Morningrise and Orchid?).
Yes, only "Morningrise" and "Orchid" and I'm anxiously awaiting
for the new album, "Everything Dies".
They long instrumental passages usually *aren't* death/black
metal, IMO. And this is what makes this band different from all other
bands with those vocals.
> Never been much of a fan of death metal, mainly because of the vocals, but
> I don't have a problem with Opeth's vocals.
Neither do I, because Mike Akerfeldt has a very beautiful voice
when he is singing and I also don't think that his growly vocals are bad.
In fact, I prefer his vocals to those of Tomi Koivusaari, from Amorphis.
> Spiff
[]s, Roger...
P.S.: I'm sending this message to both Nectar and Ytsejam.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:04:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: self producing, SG's 1st disc Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980417135804.8051A-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
On the subject of self-produced bands, Glass Hammer gets outstanding sound and production for their releases. Of course the fact that Steve and Fred run a production studio, Sound Resources, might have something to do with it...:)
Damon inquired: > Speaking of SG, who can comment on their first release? I only have Carved > in Stone, but i would consider buying their first album if it were good. I > like the keys in CIS. Is the first album similar or less keybioard driven?
I haven't heard the disc, but Brendt himself is rather unhappy with its sound. He does think that there's some good music on it, but says that the production isn't very good. And he doesn't like the drum machine. He suggests that we wait till it gets remastered and rereleased (which of course may or may not happen sometime before the new millennium).
Speaking for myself, the only reason I haven't gotten round to picking it up is because you have to order it direct from Magna Carta. :)
Ta, Phil ===================================================================== Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal) Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach Currently playing: Symphony X -- "The Damnation Game"
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:07:31 -0300 From: Lucas Perroni <gzr@uground.org> To: Lines In The Web Sand <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Chris And Kevin's Excellent Adventure Message-ID: <3537A873.CFEDC5A4@uground.org>
Hello!
I was out of YtseJam for a short period, but enough to lose lots of interesting topics.
Well, today I was hearing the Liquid Tension Experiment CD and there is a song called "Chris And Kevin's Excellent Adventure". So I started to wonder: "Would 'Chris and Kevin' be an allusion for the ex-DT/ Majesty members Chris Collins and Kevin Moore?
Maybe this was already discussed on the Jam before, but I'd like to know if someone get any conclusion for this topic!
That's all by now!
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:36:16 EDT From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sony is crap Message-ID: <a461d8d1.3537af31@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-17 08:57:39 EDT, Art wrote:
<< I have a friend who worked at Circuit City, and he always told me never to buy sony, because their stuff was crap, so for years, I didn't. But then when he quit, he told me that the only reason he (and everybody else there) said not to was because the markup on Sony products was not as much as others, so the salesmen didn't get as much comission! >>
This is the coolest response yet. I too have always thought this. Everytime I go the the Good Guys (like Circuit City), they are always pushing Yamaha and telling me Sony is crap. Unfortunately for them, I don't take their word. Most of those guys are salesman period. I told them "You just push Yamaha because you have a higher profit margin!" One guy denied it. So I talked him WAY DOWN on a Yamaha CD player, and then said "Nah, I want the Sony CD Player. Let's see. You gave me a 20% discount off list on the Yamaha. Give me a 20% discount off list on the Sony and you'll have cash in your hand." He responded, "I can't do that. We don't make as much on Sony products." I was fuming. We started off the whole conversation with a lie. It only confirmed what I already suspected.
I haven't had a problem with Sony yet. Scratch that, I had a Sony CD Player for 10 years and then it died. I wouldn't consider a product life of 10 years a problem.
And Art. If this guy was really your friend, he would have come right out and said it. When a friend uses salesman tactics on a friend, it's time to consider him a salesman and only a salesman.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:10:50 -0800 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: SF DT Concert Message-ID: <v01540b00b15d74c88227@[205.134.227.110]>
Rick Audet wrote;
>I understand they're not available through BASS. You have to go either to >Maritime Hall box office, call them and charge by phone, or go to Guitar >Center and pick them up there. I don't know where else they're available yet.
The DT tix for the Maritime Hall will be available at the outlet stores on this Monday. I only know one outlet store that is the Guitar Center at 9th/Mission. You might have to call the Maritime Hall to find out where is other outlet stores. I heard that there are some record stores at Haight St. too.
Oh...one more thing...please bring cash because those outlet stores DO take only cash (no credit card) and the price will be $18. You will have to play for the service charge if you buy the ticket at the Maritime Hall by phone. I think it's about $1.75. I'm not sure.
That's all I know. See you guys at the show.
Take care, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:25:43 -0800 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: King Crimson on video Message-ID: <v01540b01b15d766be47d@[205.134.227.93]>
"Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com> wrote;
>Saw a live video of King Crimson in a local record store today.Can=A5t >remember the name but it was definitely from the Thrak-tour.I was >wondering does anyone here have it, and is it worth buying
It is called "King Crimson - live in Japan" video. It's recorded at Nakano Sunn Plaza, Tokyo 5-9 October, 1995. Running time 105 minutes. All I can say is it is the best official video that KC ever has. If you like the double trio era this video is worth it. The picture quality is a bit dark but it is KC and Fripp sat in the dark shadow near Bruford's drumset. It has a very aggressive and dark mood.
Most of the songs is from the double trio era except some songs are from Belew and Wetton eras. Here is the song list (Vrooom, Frame by Frame, Dinosaur, One Time, Red, B'Boom, Thrak, Mattle Kudasai, Three of a perfect pair, Vrooom Vrooom, Sex sleep eat drink dream, Elephant Talk, Indiscipline, Talking Drum, Lark's Tongues in Aspic Part II, People and Walking on air.
And the band does some improvisation live during the set, too! I do watch this video very often. Buy it!!
Have fun, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:32:00 -0400 From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <v01540b01b15d6b9012a2@[128.197.7.86]>
>Someone mentioned self produced bands... I think Queensr=FFche's Promised= > Land >is the best example of how a band can be self produced, sound great and put >out what is arguably (very arguably for some, not me) the best album in >their career. This is a good point, even though, technically, Jimbo Barton co-produced it with them. Still, they went into the project thinking they would produce it entirely, and it's still very much like that. There are a lot of good self produced albums; I'll spare everyone the list here.
I can't remember if anyone mentioned this, but I found something interesting in Guitah Centah Boston today. I picked up a free tabloid-sized newpaper/magazine with oh-eff-bee on the cover. It looks like it's devoted to progressive rock (and jazz/fusion as well). I didn't open it up yet, but it mentioned articles about Vai, Billy Cobham, Liquid Tension Experiment, Spock's Beard (I think) and many others I can't remember now. (I'm too lazy to go get it, and besides, since no one's reading this, it wouldn't be worth it anyway.)
Jeff Falk jefffalk@bu.edu
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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:16:57 +0400 From: Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Peter Hammill live Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980418001657.0090b7b0@messagebox.com>
WOW!!! Just got back from the Peter Hammill's show over here!!! I can only say that this man really rules!!!!! I never thought that 1 (one!!!) man can hold the audience attention for 2 hours non-stop - that's what he did!!! He had noone else on stage and he had no sequencers or drum-machines or whatever to play with - just piano and voice or guitar and voice and he really ruled, but I guess people who attended his shows know what I mean!!! He played lotsa songs from the old VDGG stuff, as well as some his songs and some songs from his new album. The interesting thing about it is tht on studio records all the songs have drum parts, guitar parts, bass parts and so on, but live he plays only piano and you don't get the feeling that something's been left out. As to his voice - I am really glad that it hasn't become a bit worse since the VDGG days and it's still EXTREMELY powerful and gripping!!! On the last curtain call (there were several of em - i don't exactly remember how man) he just came to the front of the stage without any microphone and sand one song a-capella (without any AMPLIFICATION!!!)!!! That was cool, btw. the hall was pretty big, but still it was absolutely outstanding!!!
Cheers, Pete
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:20:08 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sony Sucks...NDTC Message-ID: <199804172120.OAA23396@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Jon Parmet said: > >Gimme my old Technics receiver back!!! With that two ton heavy analog >dial thing to tune with. I'll also take JBL, Onkyo, Yamaha, Bang & >Olufson, KLH anyday!
JBL Receiver?? Did they make them back in the stone ages or something? KLH?!?!
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:24:32 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sony, self-produced band Message-ID: <199804172124.OAA23440@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, K I L L M A R Y said: > >Ummmmm I thought the standard would be Tascam. That's what I have :-) It >does eat some DAT tapes every once in a while though, but I think that was >my fault.
You know, it could very well have been a Tascam, although I hate those things, I don't know why people use them... they only have one advantage going for them, and that's the extremely stable and long enduring drives they have, for 15 hours+ of constant editing, they stand up to the abuse, but most don't support 60+ meter tapes (120 or more minutes) and their ADDA converters aren't as good as the Panasonic or Sonys... I would definitely recommend a Panasonic over a Tascam, but price is definitely an issue at this point. The problem with a Sony is that unless it's an R500 or higher model DAT, the drives turn to mush if you use them for 15+ hours of editing, then you have to let them cool down.-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:24:55 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3752 Message-ID: <199804172124.RAA11673@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Richie "Richie Sambora For President!" Rivera wrote:
> [various music theory stuff I don't understand deleted]
*sigh* Damned drummers :)
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:31:56 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: other Magna Carta bands (Cairo & Tempest) Message-ID: <199804172131.RAA11715@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Josh Walkowicz wondered:
> I was looking through the Magna Carta catalog that came with LTE, and > I was wondering if anyone has heard any of them on there (I already > have some Magellan and Shadow Gallery, so don't bother). Mainly, I > was curious about Cairo and Tempest. Tempest sounds really > interesting with the Celtic undertones in the music. Does anyone > have anything of theirs?
I have Cairo's self-titled album, and I rather like it. Their keyboardist is less than subtle in his admiration of Keith Emerson ("Whoa, I didn't put ELP in the changer!") but the songs are very good power-prog (is that a term? well, it is now) songs. Good singer, good instrumentation, nice long songs that don't lose your attention, some appealing melodies and hooks.
Tempest just isn't my thing. I bought it cause it was on Magna Carta, expecting to hear Magna Carta type stuff. This ain't it. I imagine my uncle (*huge* fan of Celtic music) would appreciate it. I apologize for the thin review on this one, but I've never even listened to the whole thing.
-d
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:32:47 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Consumer Electronics (NDTC) Message-ID: <3537CA7F.48D4BA1@isd.net>
I am electronics technician by trade. I would like to put an end to the Sony debate. Sony has gone downhill for the last 15 years. The dubious parts sales policies of that company are ridiculous. Overpricing and long waits is common practice, if you can get them at all. I have seen 2 year old receivers that the parts were listed as NLA. (No longer available) I just scraped a STR-AV270 because a proprietary IC was NLA from Sony. They also practice planned obsolescence in the manufacturing process, using parts under rated to the for the tasks assigned. I.E.: 10 volt capacitors with 14 volts applied to them. Heat sinks that are to small. Wrong fuse values for the power supply. They are also notorious for bad solder joints. I myself would never purchase a product from that company.
For low end to middle of the road consumer electronics items I would recommend Technics, Panasonic & JVC. If you can spend a little more cash, and wish to go for the upper middle of the road products, I would recommend Rotel, Denon, Luxman, Adcom, Revox, Tascam & NAD. (Ahh huh huh, I said NAD) The products I mentioned above are well made for the money spent. They are far above average in the reliability department. These manufacturers have also made parts acquisition easy, economically reasonable, and delivered them in a timely fashion. In most cases, you get what you pay for. Other brands to avoid are Pioneer, Toshiba, Optimus, Sharp, and Fisher. I am not saying these brands will all fail, just as a whole they have a lousy track record, and are built poorly. I know there are MANY brands I have not mentioned, most of these fall somewhere in between. I am not going to evaluate the quality of *High End* products, I.E.: Levinson, Bryston, Hafler, Wadia, Theta, Cal Audio, ECT. I feel if you are willing to spend that much cash, you already know what to expect and can afford the repairs. (If any)
-- See ya, AL...
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:33:25 EDT From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DP/DT/ELP Message-ID: <195b55d8.3537caa8@aol.com>
Howdy -
I reckon that if this info were known already, someone would have posted it, maybe even MP, but I'll ask anyway:
Is there anywhere on the web where I can find a concert listing of all the DP/DT/ELP shows this summer? Great Woods finally has listed on their web site DP and ELP (not DT yet) for August 8.
Thanx... Matt T.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:36:27 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sonic Youth Message-ID: <199804172136.RAA11792@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Al "Which half is naked?" B said:
> I happened to catch Sonic Youth on Saturday Night Live a while > back, and they were absolutely horrid - unendurable, even. They
Sonic Youth, to me, is sort of an experiment in noise gone awry. The thing is, I don't outright dislike them. If you can get over the dissonance and frequent apparent lack of direction in their music, they have something to offer, as far as the "Rules? We don't need no steenking rules!" department goes. Not for the faint of heart, though. If your music has to have melody and structure, your money will be better spent elsewhere. But if you want to explore the fringe, and often get bored or just scared shitless that someone would think of this stuff, then SY might be up your alley. -d
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