YTSEJAM Digest 3791
Today's Topics:
1) Re: VH3
by "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
2) free cdrs
by subtlerage <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
3) Re: unsubscribing newbies
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
4) Re: Tony Levin on SNL
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
5) Re: Harps and the SF DT show
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
6) $15 for da CDR, beyotch
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@prognosis.com>
7) Re: Trading
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
8) Re: $15 for da CDR, beyotch
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
9) Re: Grammatical Nonsense Up With Which I Will Not Put
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
10) Re: Trading
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
11) tony levin's "stick thingys" on his fingers
by Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
12) Arash, I am going to kill you.
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
13) I am not a number
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
14) Re: Grammer...
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
15) Re: Trading
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
16) RE: Threshold-favor / Last call for Rush CDs / Asst.
by "James Arin Colberg" <JamesArin@snet.net>
17) Re: Trading
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:36:29 -0300
From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: VH3
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980422173625.007b0d00@pop3.uol.com.br>
Ernesto wrote:
>Well, seeing that it's the lyrics that eventually make song 'serious'
>or 'fun', and that Gary wrote all the lyrics, i dont see what Eddie
>had to do with it.
Well, as far as I know, the lyrics for "Without You" were almost all made
by Eddie. I don't know about the rest of them, though. I think they're
almost all done by Gary.
>Most of the music still sounds like trademark VH
>with a couple new twists. And songs like Dirty Water Dog and The One
>I Want have a party feel (at least to me they do) Of course, there's
>still a couple of non-VH songs like A Year to the Day, and some songs
>dont flow very well from section to section.
Well, that "unusual" sound is what I really love about this record. Judging
from interviews that I read, I think that one of Eddie's goals for this
record was to input new and strange "twists", as you said, on the songs,
like those that he always put in his famous solos.
As of A Year To The Day, I think it contains one of the most fantastic
solos ever done by EVH. Really raw and emotional.
>There is one thing that really bugs me, and thats the overly raw
>production, even though you can tell it was recorded with very good
>eqiupment...it makes for a really weird sound, and with the the amp
>buzz here, and the out of tune vocal there, it really gets to me.
>
I agree with you about the vocals, especially on The One I Want. That one
is hard for me to get into. But I think what you're referring to is How
Many Say I, that is all sung by Eddie. Really weird. :)
I don't know if other people here agree with me, but I think his guitar
tone really changed from Balance (and even Best Of) to VH3. It's got much
more high-end (I like it, tho), maybe it's his new guitar, the Wolfgang...
[]'s
Cassiano
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:54:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: subtlerage <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: free cdrs
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980424235216.31874B-100000@drac.host4u.net>
i'm gonna pick the 10 poorest jammers and offer them a free CDR of 74
minutes of me jacking off, farting, having explosive diarrhea, AND
rapping. i'll call it "Dream Theater - The Outtakes".
(for those of you that are humor impaired, piss off. :))
- Andrew Miller - subtlerage@subtlerage.com -
- http://www.subtlerage.com -
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:11:48 -0400
From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: unsubscribing newbies
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980425011148.0079fd30@pop3.afn.org>
>Hell, Maybe we should post unsubscibing directions at the beginning of
>each Jam. Make it the FIRST post of each Jam. I'll GLADLY scroll past it
>once per Jam and probably eliminate 2 Jams a day worth of dumbasses that
>refuse to read the DAMN F A Q !!
Won't make a difference. On Fumbling Towards Ecstasy unsubscribe instructions are
included with every POST (which means hordes of wasted space in a digest) and we
get at least the same amount of people who don't know how to unsubscribe. More,
I think.
-=-
I know a monster when I see one in the mirror.
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====-------------------
http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:18:06 -0800
From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Tony Levin on SNL
Message-ID: <v01540b00b1672ed47061@[205.134.244.188]>
Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> wrote;
>>On today's Saturday night live rerun in Comedy >central, Peter gabriel
>>is the musical guest... complete with tony levin on >bass..
>
>You didn't mention those funky "miniature drum sticks" that TL had
>attached to his fingers (on his picking hand). He gets that great,
>full, pounding sound with them.
>
>Does he use those a lot? Anyone else use them?
Did you mean the "funk fingers". Tony uses them on the song called "People"
from the THRAK album, Talking Drum and maybe other songs as well.
You can see he plays them from the King Crimson - live in Japan 1995 video.
Regards,
AE
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"Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:25:13 -0800
From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Harps and the SF DT show
Message-ID: <v01540b01b167317e10cb@[205.134.245.112]>
Lisa Marie <jessie@dreamt.org> wrote;
>Yep, they were on sale last weekend... incidently, what you will receive
>from the outlets is just a voucher, you will then have to turn in your
>voucher at Maritime Hall to receive your actual tickets. This was the case
>at Guitar Center, I don't know if all of the outlets work that way.
The Maritime Hall used to have the actual ticket but now they do not have
even if you buy it at the box office. I used to get the Maritime Hall
ticket at the Border Books and Music store at the Union Square (music
department). It's a very nice concert ticket with full colours. I picked up
my DT tix at the guitar center store and they gave me the reciept to show
at the door.
Regards,
AE
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"Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:44:08 -0500
From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@prognosis.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: $15 for da CDR, beyotch
Message-ID: <199804250539.AAA01208@wheat.farm.niu.edu>
>From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
>krackley@weidmuller.com wrote:
>> I'll trade you $15.00 for a disc :-)
>
>I would do this only if you have absolutely nothing
>to trade ??
What happened to trading for blanks and postage? Why would you go so far
as to actually sell a cdr of these tracks? For someone who has made a bit
of noise about Bahr selling officially released Rush stuff, it strikes me
as odd that you'd sell these tunes. I wish people would consider trading
for blanks more often... it helps people start a collection, and the real
goal of boots isn't to get as much as you can that other people don't
have... it's to get and spread some really cool material around. The only
really responsible way to do this, IMHO, is to make it as cheap and
convenient as possible.=20
Christopher W. Ptacek
http://www.prognosis.com/madsman
IRC: Madsman
=93I wonder if Harley-Davidson makes a unicycle=85=94
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:52:38 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Trading
Message-ID: <35417A26.B5A15CEA@sydney.net>
NuGgeTMaN wrote:
> O.k. I really hate to start yet another flame war here, but I've gotta say
> something. Is it REALLY necessary to take $15 from someone who wants some
> "Rare" Dream Theater material...when the cost is virtually minimal??? I
> have recently spent numerous hours downloading "Rare" DT MP3's from
> various sites on a VERY shitty 386 machine using merely a 14.4 modem...a
> TOTAL pain in the ass, so I can make myself a CD of "Rare" DT stuff...and
> I REALLY hate to tell you people this, but you can buy CD-R's for $1.50 at
> Sam's (in packs of 10). If a person has spent money on a CD burner...I
> seriously doubt they bought the thing with anyone other than themselves in
> mind, nad I've decided I have a serious problem with people who are
> allowing a fellow DT enthusiast to pay them more than the cost of a CD.
> So, here's what I'm going to do. I have a couple of friends who have CD
> burners, and allow me to burn whatever with them for FREE...I will talk
> with them about this, and see if they have a problem with helping a few
> fellow DT enthusiasts with the problem of "Ytserobbers" as I'm going to
> call them.
It seems that I have had my nest shitted in by offering to trade a CDR
of FII demo's.
Before you start mouthing off you should have read the guys post
properly.
He OFFERED ME $15 for a CDR.
Did I ask for $15 ?? and I also said only
if you have absolutely nothing to trade and I also don't recall agreeing
to this
either.
krackley@weidmuller.com wrote:
> I'll trade you $15.00 for a disc :-)
>I would do this only if you have absolutely nothing
>to trade ??
I also object to being called a fucking 'Ytserobber', what a load of
bullshit.
My original plan was to make a CDR of FII demo's for jammers who kept
asking
about them, and I also said trade only, the guy offered me money, I
didn't
except it, nor have I had further contact with the guy. This is a clear
case of you twisting words to suit your own needs.
I am far from a robber, just ask all the jammers, like Eckie, Luke,
Insania
who I have sent CDR's to for FREE if I am a 'Ytserobber' ?
If you can make a CDR for $3 including postage that's your good luck, I
can't
I don't live in the USA where CDR's are cheap and so widely available.
If you want to reply email me at
icarus@sydney.net and NOT the jam
graham
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 16:09:13 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: $15 for da CDR, beyotch
Message-ID: <35417E09.31ECE573@sydney.net>
Christopher Ptacek wrote:
> >krackley@weidmuller.com wrote:
> >> I'll trade you $15.00 for a disc :-)
> >
> >I would do this only if you have absolutely nothing
> >to trade ??
> What happened to trading for blanks and postage? Why would you go so far
> as to actually sell a cdr of these tracks?
Please tell me where I actually ask the guy for $15 ??
Read the fucking thing properly before you start accusing me
anything sinister :)
He offered me the money didn't he ?
I haven't agreed to this, nor have I contacted this guy again !
>For someone who has made a bit
>of noise about Bahr selling officially released Rush stuff, it strikes me
>as odd that you'd sell these tunes.
It skrikes me odd that you think I am 'selling these tunes' I am
certainly
not selling DT songs for my own profit.
grrrrrrraham
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:18:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Grammatical Nonsense Up With Which I Will Not Put
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980424231740.8856A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, John Dea wrote:
>>sentence.
>>
>>(this is too much fun!)
>
>However, Matthew, mi amigo, his first comment isn't actually a complete
>sentence. 'Tis merely a sentence fragment. (-8
Ah, but you are incorrect. "That" is a pronoun, and the "'s" adds the
verb "is". The pronoun is the subject, and the verb is, well, the verb.
Thus, it is a complete sentence.
>
>Thought I'd join the fun,
>John
>
>
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>
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 02:34:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Trading
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980425022912.30519B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Graham, I was not attacking you personally, I was attacking anyone who
gets somewhat a guilty conscience reading my post, or to the guy who gets
all defensive about why he charges this or that. However since you got me
on a roll...you claim you aren't asking for money or anything...no instead
you're asking for "Trade" which still shows me that you are seeking some
kind of personal gain from doing your "Service." I wouldn't consider you
to be a "Ytserobber" just more like a "Ytsepawnbroker" which isn't all
bad...but it's still seeking a personal gain. Do what you like...I live to
please one person right now, and that's myself...and it pleases me to know
that I'm helping people in the most honest way I know how...if I could
afford to I'd just give the CD's away...but right now I have a Whopping
$1.25 to my name. Have a great day dude :)
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 02:50:37 EDT
From: Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: tony levin's "stick thingys" on his fingers
Message-ID: <be8385f8.354187bf@aol.com>
someone discussed tony levin's "stick thingys."
they're actually called "funk fingers." really nifty little device. i just
used them on a friend of mine's piece (on acoustic guitar) at a recital a week
ago.
if you're curious, there's a web site for them. i think it's www.papabear.com.
somewhere there, you'll find the page for it.
wild koba (sig-less at his folks' place)
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 02:54:20 -0500 (EST)
From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Arash, I am going to kill you.
Message-ID: <01IW9R84JE2G002M1T@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Date sent: 25-APR-1998 02:47:58
Dude! Are you OUT OF YOUR *MIND*????
FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT LINES.
Get skadz to help you out, man, or I'll be coming after you with vaseline
and a sledgehammer. and yes, those are the first 2 things to pop randomly
into my mind, but make no mistake about it. Another header like that
shows up in my inbox, with the words "Empty Tremor" anywhere in the
vicinity, and I *will* find a way to make petroleum jelly hurt.
jeezum.
Joshy
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mailto: rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 03:01:28 -0500 (EST)
From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I am not a number
Message-ID: <01IW9RKNKCBY002M1T@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Date sent: 25-APR-1998 02:57:52
> I'm not a number, I'm a free man/I'll live my life how I want to"
>y'all know who that is, right?
yes, it's bruce dickinson paraphrasing patrick mcgoohan playing Number 6
from the classic, incredible, best tv show ever made that any DT fan should
take a look at, called The Prisoner.
Number Josh
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 04:04:45 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Grammer...
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980425033110.13505A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Jon Kretschmer wrote:
>
> >From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
> >>
> >>>> P.S. Does "wannabes" need an apostrophe?
> >>
> >>> No, but "Patrucci" needs and "e".
> >>
> >>The "and" does not need that "d" at the end Mr. Grammar.
> >>
> >you need a comma after the end, sir.
>
> The word "you" should be capitalized, Matt.
>
> : )
>
> Jon
The word "Grammer" in the "Subject:" line should have been spelled
with an "a" in the place of the "e". :-)
(Well, at least <www.m-w.com> doesn't list "grammer" as a variant
of "grammar").
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:10:41 +1000 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Trading Message-ID: <35418C71.3888E04A@sydney.net>
NuGgeTMaN wrote: > Graham, I was not attacking you personally, I was attacking anyone who > gets somewhat a guilty conscience reading my post, or to the guy who gets > all defensive about why he charges this or that. However since you got me > on a roll...you claim you aren't asking for money or anything...no instead > you're asking for "Trade" which still shows me that you are seeking some > kind of personal gain from doing your "Service." I wouldn't consider you > to be a "Ytserobber" just more like a "Ytsepawnbroker" which isn't all > bad...but it's still seeking a personal gain.
You weren't, seemed like you were to me, specially after the krackley guy offered $15....but let's put that down to pure coincidence :) Of course I am seeking gain with a trade, but the person who I trade with is also going to get a personal gain from the trade too, I can't see anything wrong with that ?
graham
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 03:23:21 -0400 From: "James Arin Colberg" <JamesArin@snet.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Threshold-favor / Last call for Rush CDs / Asst. Message-ID: <000001bd701b$07661380$04000005@james.colberg>
Hi Brian, Has anyone done this for you yet? If not, I can. Let me know. :^)
See ya, Jim Colberg
"I'll walk through your firestorm but never never crawl" Kansas 'Under the Knife'
-----Original Message----- A week or so ago I bought a used copy of Threshold's "Psychedelicatessen" through the Internet. It arrived, to my dismay, without any liner notes whatsoever. So I'm asking for a favor. Would someone with the above album please either scan the liner notes and send 'em to me electronically or make color photocopies and snail-mail them? I'll cover the costs of postage/copying/time spent/whathaveyou -- you can even have a CD or two from the below list. Please drop me a mail (hender@wam.umd.edu) if you're able to help me out. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:38:45 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Trading Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980425003843.006f5b98@postoffice.syspac.com>
I'm probably late for the 10 people you wanted, but if there's still room, I'll take a spot! I'd love to have that stuff on CD :)
Thanks man,
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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