YTSEJAM Digest 3808
Today's Topics:
1) Hank!!!
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
2) DT HATS...SOON...
by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
3) Daytona's show
by Pat Daugherty <PDaugher@bdm.com>
4) Re: Orgasms on albums...
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
5) Grades and Ytsetravel to Daytona's
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
6) Re: Sheesh!
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
7) Re: NT Album Themes part 3
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
8) Re: moaning women
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
9) Moaning Women
by Bil <girt@research.bell-labs.com>
10) Re: moaning women
by George Tryfonas <gt4@ukc.ac.uk>
11) Blah! (NDTC)
by Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca (Lauzon, Gary: IHAB)
12) RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrAMM.......STEIN
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
13) Shows here in Sao Paulo
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
14) How to guide.
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
15) Re: Confusing situation and a bit 'bout John P
by "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
16) yeah, yeah, me too...
by Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
17) Re: moaning women
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:40:54 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, midema@CS.WM.EDU
Subject: Hank!!!
Message-ID: <199804281840.OAA16771@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Thanks to Fred Norris for posting on People's message board, we can now all
check out just who Hank the Angry <comma> Drunken Dwarf is:
http://www.eclipse.net/~vog/images/midgets.gif
Just trying to be of service :)
-d
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:53:01 -0700
From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT HATS...SOON...
Message-ID: <199804281850.OAA17408@dewdrop2.mindspring.com>
Just wanted to drop a line to everyone to keep your eyes and ears open on
the Ytsejam and ( www.dreamt.org ).
The 'old' DT hats are sold out, but I have a new one coming soon...hopfully
in the next 30 days.
take care,
Todd s
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:01:54 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <PDaugher@bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Daytona's show
Message-ID: <354627A2.EF66F4E4@bdm.com>
I got my DT ticket to the Daytona's show. It says doors open at 8. I
haven't ever been to Daytona's. I have been to it's former name A.L.
Gators. But what time does the main band come on at Daytona's? I figure
doors open at 8. The opener comes on at around 9. DT comes on at
10:30-11pm. Those that went to the Malmsteen show, what time did he come
on?
As for a song with moaning women, try "Sex" by Kix.
NP:Dokken-Dysfunctional
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:08:42 -0400 From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Orgasms on albums... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980428150842.007d17f0@mindspring.com>
>My friend asked about songs that have moaning women in it. > Two examples were: > > Rocket Queen - Guns N Roses > More Human than Human - White Zombie > > > Oh, music aficionados on this list, can you name others?
Listen to 90% of rap albums out there, or just watch BET for a few hours. You'll be able to name 50 after that... :)
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpineone(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 9382967 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone/tapelist.html ^ Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:07:47 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Grades and Ytsetravel to Daytona's Message-ID: <5331adb3.35462904@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-28 14:42:24 EDT, Lobsterback wrote:
<< Lastly, if I were to rate FII, I'd give it an "O" for Outstanding, or, if your school system is the let's-not-let-the-stupid-kids-know-they're-stupid-until-they-hit-junior-high sort, an "S", for Satisfactory, with the knowledhe that it should really be an "O" if it weren't for the dumb-children-self-esteem factor. Brian "Solomon" Henderson >>
Give yourself a gold star, and go to the head of the class. You aced it. You EARN self-esteem. It cannot be doled out like some other........oops, I almost broke a Ytserule there...........................Nevermind :~) Anyway, I thought that was pretty funny. Way to go Lobsterback.
Any and all 'Jammers going to the show on May 5: Please make your presence known to me, as I am trying to research(from Va., which is kind of tough) a place for a mini-Ytsemeeting near Daytona's in Maryland. Any help from Md./Balt. 'Jammers would be much appreciated. D-man, are you coming up? Alex(the chick)? Let me know.
Yours in Ytsehood, Kez
P.S. I know, I know, I've been posting a lot lately. Just trying to inch my way up Itchy's list, you know? ;~)
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:07:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Sheesh! Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980428150717.6465B-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Why complain about Mike's postings. This is the most musical content i have seen on this list in forever. God, a jammer will find an excuse to bitch about anything.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:19:33 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: NT Album Themes part 3 Message-ID: <199804281919.PAA17016@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
I pretty much agree with Mike's take on Metallica and early Rush, so I will start replying to part 3:
I agree with pretty much everything Mike said about Signals and p/g.
> Power Windows marks a more optimistic turn of Rush's themes... things
Ehhh... I wouldn't say optimistic. Maybe more level-headed, or down-to-earth.
> have never been quite as bleak in nature as p/g. Power Windows is > easy... it deals with power. Big Money with the power of avarice. Grand > Designs with the power of individuality. Manhattan Project with the > power of war and destruction. Marathon with the power of endurance.
Out of those, avarice, war, and destruction don't really fit the "optimistic" theme you sense. I would probably say that PoW is a break away from feelings and nature-stuff, and a sharper focus on human nature, which leads into HYF.
> It's [PoW] very concise and is probably the best thematic > presentation since Moving Pictures.
More so than the Atlantic albums? I don't see that. An interesting note: I never really saw the thematic relationships within albums until you wrote these posts. Thanks for shedding some light.
> find excitement and enjoyment in anything and everything. TSS is > easier... it's Rush's masterpiece, and deals with the instinctual need
Lyrically, I'm inclined to agree. But musically, I just don't feel right calling TSS anything more than "a really good song." On the same album, Prime Mover hits me a lot more deeply, musically. And then there's Natty Sci, Hemispheres, ...
> something he hadn't touched much on before, in Mission. Mission deals > with our instinctual question, "Is there a divine being? Is there a > God?" Who indeed sets the wheels in motion? Who runs behind the scenes? > It isn't us, but we THINK it is. How do we corroborate this?
Interesting. That'll take some more thought for me to agree or disagree with.
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:29:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: moaning women Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980428142635.3181A-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
> Of course, the all time classis: the female orgasm solo in Jackyl's "Dirty > Little Mind." Or is it on "Mental Masturbation?" I don't remember off hand.
It's "Dirty Little Mind." Some other songs off hand: Bon Jovi "Social Disease" Manowar "Pleasure Slave" (I think, not sure on this one) Steve Vai "Road to Cavalry" (is that right? - the track right before "Down Deep Into The Pain" on the album Sex And Religion.) There are probably more that I can't think of now.
Robert Taylor rctaylor@uiuc.edu http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rctaylor
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:28:42 -0400 From: Bil <girt@research.bell-labs.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Moaning Women Message-ID: <35462DEA.7844463F@research.bell-labs.com>
>My friend asked about songs that have moaning women in it. >Oh, music aficionados on this list, can you name others?
That Meatloaf song 'Paradise (By the Dashboard Light)' or whatever it's called during the baseball segment. The chick in the background gets going pretty good as the guy tries for the suicide squeeze ("Here's the play at the plate, Holy Cow, I think he's going to make it!"). Imus played that segment of the song this morning so it's still in my brain.
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:33:10 +0100 (BST) From: George Tryfonas <gt4@ukc.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: moaning women Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.95.980428203232.25202A-100000@merlin.ukc.ac.uk>
Try the female vocal on "Je t'aime moi non plus", the old 60s French tune.
********************************************************** | George Tryfonas | | | CSE 1st Year | Better to save the mystery | | Univeristy of Kent | Than surrender to the secret | | Canterbury, UK | | **********************************************************
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:36:23 -0400 From: Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca (Lauzon, Gary: IHAB) To: ytsejam@ax.com ('DT') Subject: Blah! (NDTC) Message-ID: <1998Apr28.152756.1255.2334602@msmail.ic.gc.ca>
Hey jammerz!
I'm bored at work, thought I'd write a bit about some of the highs in my life lately..
Saturday night I went to see this local band from Ottawa, called Limelight, they are a tribute to Rush.. it was my second time seeing them.. they played an excellent setlist (2 one hour sets, stuff from 1976-1982) and the drum solo was phenominal. I actually taped the show.. sounds pretty good.. their next show is tentativaly May 22 (if you're in the Ottawa area.. check them out, email me for details)
After lunch me and my friend we decided to check out this used store.. I found a Boot from Rush,, called Be Careful with that axe, Alex.. pretty kewl bootleg, sounds good.. was recored in Ottawa and Toronto, also picked up Fates Warning's Parellels.. wow.. Good album.. listening to it right now.. I had 3 from them before.. now I have 4.
There is this local chat here in Ottawa.. and I met this girl.. she's a bigger Rush fan then me.. needless to say. we met.. started going out the week after... wow.. the wonders the Net could bring to your life! :o)
On Friday, I'm going to see this professional tribute band called The musical box, tribute to Genesis of course... they are members from Montreal and Toronto.. Selling England by the Pound tour.. it should rock!
I'm putting a band together.. we're called Infiltrate... but we might change to Shadowvale... anyhow... the guitarist.. who would be lead.. im rhythm cuz i suck =) his fave guitarist is Petrucci.. he is a big DT fan.... thats my DT content for this post ;)
I called this prog cd store.. near my area.. asked bout the prog fest in Quebec city. cuz me and my friend we definately wanna go.. it's in June.. but still no idea who will play... does anyone know? Also... I wanna purchase the lastest Arena album The Visitor,, has anyone heard it yet?
s'all for now
ciao!
XaNaDu
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:37:43 -0400 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrAMM.......STEIN Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980428153742.00771fa0@maila.wm.edu>
Various people said:
>Now playing: Rammstein "Sehnsucht". "DU HAST! DU HAST MICH!!!" This is >the coolest German metal CD I've EVER heard.
I gotta agree with this one. I had the opportunity to pick up the Engel single last summer, with a couple extra songs thrown on, including "Rr-r-r-r-r-RAMM................STEIN!" Unfortunately, I did not do so. DAMN empty wallets!
>Did anyone else get the two song video of this? It has Du hast and Engel >on it. Both of which are some pretty messed (but wild) up videos.
I've seen the video for Engel. Now this begs the question: was this made before or after the movie From Dusk Til Dawn? B/c the similarities between the video for Engel (kooky shit) and the first scenes in FDTD when they enter the bar (before the bloodbath and bad effects) are STRIKING. Just wanted to know, since I thought I probably would not be the only one to notice. It was a bad movie, btw...funny in its own twisted manner though.
Alex
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 01:19:27 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Shows here in Sao Paulo Message-ID: <3531924F.76C6AF0D@geocities.com>
Hi there!
This is addressed to local jammers here in Sao Paulo, so feel frre to page it down. =)
Anyone going to the Malmsteen or/and Pantera shows please drop me a line!!! And anyone who has the exact day to the Pantera show please drop me a line too. =)
-- []'s /********************************************\ | Marcelo Vanzin | | vanzin@geocities.com | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ | \********************************************/
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:45:17 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: How to guide. Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980428124517.008a32f0@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
Trevor "I swear! She said she was 18!" Hoit said:
>I believe the thread he did not want to rehash was the thread about HOB >having a stick up their ass, not the thread about the gig being all >ages.
You are correct sir.
And jesus mike, how bout making those CDs instead of writing the how-to guide for Metallica and Rush?
Just a thought.
Jon
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:00:33 +0100 From: "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Confusing situation and a bit 'bout John P Message-ID: <01bd72e0$4dad84a0$LocalHost@elydian>
>I don't really know what to think about John Petrucci... I mean, he's an >inevidable asset for the band DT, and he sure as hell got the *speed* >and the *perfection*... but has he got the *feeling*? After listening to >Satriani and Vai (The Masters!!!) I find some of Petrucci's play = >rather... pathetic... oh maybe that's not the word I'm seeking... excuse >me, but Petrucci's play doesn't have the *sparkle* or the *move* that >JS and SV have. Oh, what an UNFAIR comparison, you think...
Pathetic?! I think Petrucci has got to be one of the most emotional and passionate players of his technical calibre. For example, the solo at the climax of LTL, LSOAD, Erotomania, Kindred Spirits (in the solo, starting off with bass and clean guitar), also, a lot of the material on Rock Discipline (Hmmm, MS Word's grammar check would probably kick the crap out of that sentence, good job I don't bother with that program). On Lost Without You, his playing just blew me away.
Although Vai and Satch did some amazing stuff too; For The Love Of God, Rescue Me Or Bury Me (Please excuse my ignorance in Satch's material, since I only own one of his CDs, which reminds me, Crystal Planet's another one for the 'to get' list), Petrucci definately does not fall short of any of the emotion in Vai's playing.
========================================== In a world which your mind controls, belief is reality. -- E-Mail: elydian@netcomuk.co.uk -- ICQ UIN: 1491970 -- Web Pages: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~elydian/ ==========================================
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: yeah, yeah, me too... Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980428152315.79372B-100000@archa16.cc.uga.edu>
FII aging:
New Millenium -initially: B now: A
Probably grew on me the most. I liked it from the start, but songs like that take a few listens before you can really "get" them. Different and in ways more "modernized sounding" in parts than other DT, but hey, what's wrong with that? Excellent song.
You Not Me -initially: B+ now: B
Never hated this as much as other people did, especially compared with TAMP. A little poppy, true, but it still has a feasible amount of weight to it, IMO. Agreed that You Or Me is better, however. Doesn't really either: 1)turn to gold or 2)rot with age, IMO.
Peruvian Skies -initially: A now: A+
I'm a huge Metallica fan. What can I say. Love it.
Hollow Years -initially: B now: B+
A solid ballad. From the start, something about this song reminded me of Dave Matthews. I have no idea what and why. Not close to being my fave on the album, but a really good song nonetheless.
Just Let Me Breathe -initially: A- now: A-
Lyrics that get the point across well combined with a big metal groove. Freakin' awesome live. Not really any change in my opinion over time.
Anna Lee -initially: B+ now: A
I've tried and tried but I've not been able to understand the backlash against this song. I think this is EASILY the best ballad on the album, no contest. The melody just soars; freakin' HUGE! Up there with Surrounded in my book.
Burning My Soul -initially: A+ now: A
Like the other guy said, I'm a metalhead at heart, so I love this stuff. Big, fat, monster riff. Initially probably my favorite, but eventually the excitement wears off a bit on simpler (by way of comparison) songs like this.
Hell's Kitchen -initially: B- now: A
At first I was slightly disappointed, because I was comparing it with the untouchable Erotomania. But this is a very, very good work in its own right. The one word that describes this song to me is subtle. By that I mean that the best parts are more understated than they were in the other instrumentals; they don't knock you out of your seat the first time you hear them.
Lines in the Sand -initially: A now: A+
What can you say? We all know it's bloody awesome. Started that way, and only improved with time. EASILY the best lyrics on the album, right up there with Voices lyrically. Petrucci can write lyrics like a monster when he uses this style (more symbolic, less straightforward); that's just what I prefer.
Take Away My Pain -initially: D- now: F--------------------------
I literally hate this song. I hate this song more than any DT song ever written. No offense to JP's late father or those of you who identify strongly with the lyrics; I just cannot stand it. This song is basically Wisconsin put to music. But with even more cheese. I just don't like the simple, MEGA-CLICHED lyrical style at all. I'd even take Innocence Faded above this song. Just not what I go for, plain and simple. I am intrigued about hearing the demo, though.
Trial of Tears -initially: A now: A+
Amazing, amazing; what a journey. I've just always thought the ending reprise is so unbelievably powerful. What a way to end an album. *All of the above has obviously only been my opinion; if you disagree, you are perfectly entitled to the right of being wrong.*
:) Just kidding, of course.
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:02:59 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: moaning women Message-ID: <30bc667.354635f4@aol.com>
hmm i forget the song by 2-live-crew i think it was, the one that kept saying "me so horny" i dunno if that counts for moaning women.... you have a weird friend by the way..
Rocky
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