YTSEJAM Digest 3810
Today's Topics:
1) HANKS IN FIRST!!!!
by Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com>
2) a random thought....
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
3) Moaning
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
4) Poking Back In....
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
5) Re: How to guide.
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
6) Re: moaning women (D-Mang)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
7) Rockin' Japan
by "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
8) moaning women
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
9) Cincinnati and Detroit Shows
by Big Perm <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu>
10) Re: moaning women (D-Mang)
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
11) Re: Confusing situation and a bit 'bout John P
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
12) Re: moaning women
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
13) Moaning women
by Wilson <wilsncat@erols.com>
14) Re: Moaning Women
by Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
15) moaning women, like me
by Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
16) Re: moaning women
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
17) Females Moaning and Groaning
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
18) Re: moaning women, like me
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:59:09 -0500
From: Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com>
To: Brandy George <LadyWyntr@aol.com>, Heavy Metal List <metal@inet.it>,
Subject: HANKS IN FIRST!!!!
Message-ID: <3546431D.C8EE7E70@ix.netcom.com>
HANK IS NOW IN FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He has 5146 votes, and 2nd place Leo Dicrapio has 4338!!!!! If you have
not yet voted do so now, we need to ensure that he retains this place.
Mentally Yours,
Justin James
jsj@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 05:07:27
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: a random thought....
Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980429050727.3047c490@pop.ici.net>
Just curious, but....
Has anybody else been keeping track of whether people have the tape or CD
of FII by the order of songs in their review? :)
(For those that don't know, the songs on the tape were put in a different
order so that BMS/HK/LITS could be kept together - they lead off side 2)
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________
E-mail: (psull)-(at)-(ici)-(dot)-(net)
IRC: DDictator
WWW: http://www.just-like.nu/
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:03:34 -0700
From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Moaning
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980428140334.00905db0@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
Axl Rose has sex with some chick in the song "Rocket Queen" on Appetite for
Destruction. She gets pretty loud here and there.
Jon
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:05:50 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Poking Back In....
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980428140550.006f62d4@pop.cfmc.com>
Hello, folks. Been a bit. I'm still mired in my typical schedule, but I'm
trying to avoid doing some particularly tedious stuff, so I thought I'd
leap in (especially since it concerns my beloved Rush)...
>From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
>Subject: Re: NT Album Themes part 3
>
>I agree with pretty much everything Mike said about Signals and p/g.
>
>> Power Windows marks a more optimistic turn of Rush's themes... things
>
>Ehhh... I wouldn't say optimistic. Maybe more level-headed, or
down-to-earth.
"Power Windows," I think, is more cynical than "Grace Under Pressure" or
"Signals," which, I'd say, are more along the lines of "despondent" where
negativity is concerned. At no point in time on a Rush record, though, do
I really get a negative sense of life. It's as though the narration is
coming from a position of centered-ness. Feeling as though there's
ultimately some utility to making these statements, rather than the Nilhism
you get from a lot of lyrics from this decade.
>> have never been quite as bleak in nature as p/g. Power Windows is
>> easy... it deals with power. Big Money with the power of avarice. Grand
>> Designs with the power of individuality. Manhattan Project with the
>> power of war and destruction. Marathon with the power of endurance.
>
>Out of those, avarice, war, and destruction don't really fit the
"optimistic"
>theme you sense. I would probably say that PoW is a break away from
feelings
>and nature-stuff, and a sharper focus on human nature, which leads into HYF.
This is astute. "Human Nature" is, absolutely, a good way to focus an eye
on "Power Windows." But "Power Windows" is a look at human nature in the
context of larger actions, where "Hold Your Fire" is based in smaller
patterns of interaction where human nature is concerned. Internal
motivation, often.
>> It's [PoW] very concise and is probably the best thematic
>> presentation since Moving Pictures.
>
>More so than the Atlantic albums? I don't see that. An interesting note:
I
>never really saw the thematic relationships within albums until you wrote
>these posts. Thanks for shedding some light.
I remember reading an interview with Neil Peart in _Guitar_ (!) Magazine
(the one where "Closer to the Heart" is transcribed...this is years ago),
where he talks about considering "Grace Under Pressure" the first "concept"
album Rush has done, because each piece on the album really addresses the
concept of pressure in a different way. The earlier "concept" albums,
then, would be longer narratives...a little less grounded and, perhaps, a
little more abstract and opaque.
>> find excitement and enjoyment in anything and everything. TSS is
>> easier... it's Rush's masterpiece, and deals with the instinctual need
>
>Lyrically, I'm inclined to agree. But musically, I just don't feel right
>calling TSS anything more than "a really good song." On the same album,
Prime
>Mover hits me a lot more deeply, musically. And then there's Natty Sci,
>Hemispheres, ...
No way. "Time Stand Still" is Rush's finest moment. Period. On the other
hand, the other three you mention are part of that card that gets you in
the door with the band, I think.
>> something he hadn't touched much on before, in Mission. Mission deals
>> with our instinctual question, "Is there a divine being? Is there a
>> God?" Who indeed sets the wheels in motion? Who runs behind the scenes?
>> It isn't us, but we THINK it is. How do we corroborate this?
>
>Interesting. That'll take some more thought for me to agree or disagree
with.
Boy, I think I really read the song different than the quote of a quote
above. I'm getting the impression that while we have a tendency to work
well with wonderful abstractions (a divine being among them) -- which is a
positive human tendency -- to leave them ungrounded is to preclude some
part of what it is to actually go and LIVE. It's not an existentialist
statement or anything, but "spirit" IS tied to "vision"...having a POINT to
life, so to speak.
Incidentally, one of the songs on the T-Ride album (I'm drawing a blank at
the moment) has a moaning woman, too.
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Fishbone: The Reality of My Surroundings
2. Energy Orchard: Energy Orchard
3. Goo Goo Dolls: A Boy Named Goo
4. Rush: Hold Your Fire
5. Lost Souls: Howlin' at the Moon
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: How to guide.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980428141501.5257A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Jon Kretschmer wrote:
>And jesus mike, how bout making those CDs instead of writing the how-to
>guide for Metallica and Rush?
The man has like four computers -- I'm sure one or two of them are doing
something other than checking his e-mail...
>
>Just a thought.
>
Just another thought.
>Jon
>
--Matt
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They Might Be Giants: REM with a sense of humor.
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:32:09 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moaning women (D-Mang)
Message-ID: <199804282132.RAA05979@ia.cs.wm.edu>
The iban graced my inbox with:
> << While this probably doesn't classify as "moaning" per se, I always thought
> the
> girl at the beginning of Vai's "I Would Love To" ("You know, I'm very very
> shy") always sounded really sexy.
> >>
>
> ewwww man you's a sicko.... thats a little boy who says that
> LMFAO
Oh, get your head out of your ass, Rocky. That's a chick. :)
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:39:00 -0800
From: "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rockin' Japan
Message-ID: <C7EA264064ACD011BE4500805FC1DCA10168A6ED@SATURN.nt.data-io.com>
Howdy ya'll.
Was wondering if anyone else picked up a CD in ye olde local music
shoppe called "Dream Theater: Rockin' Japan". Saw it in a store today,
picked it up, got listening to it and was relatively impressed with the
quality. (The bass was quite loud, actually, so I was in seventh
heaven)
This was probably at the near beginnings of the Awake tour, because all
of the liner notes and pictures and such display Kevin Moore as the
keyboardist, but Derek is introduced to the audience at the beginning of
one of the tracks. Anyone else have it? What would you consider the
quality to be like as compared to other good and bad boots?
randomly curious,
-= george =-
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:39:23 -0400
From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: moaning women
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980428173923.007aa930@pop3.afn.org>
The best: "The Girls of Porn" by Mr. Bungle.
Some others can be found on Chili Peppers albums. There's one on Mother's Milk ...
"Sexy Mexican Maid?" And some others.
-=-
I know a monster when I see one in the mirror.
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====-------------------
http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:01:32 -0500
From: Big Perm <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cincinnati and Detroit Shows
Message-ID: <199804282153.QAA07246@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Hello everybody...(Hi Doctor Nick) --> blatant Simpsons reference
Anyways, I will be traveling to both the shows in Cincinnati and Detroit,
leaving from Madison, Wisconsin (in my trusty rental car), and returning for
the Chicago show on Wednesday night. If anyone would like a pickup along the
way to either of the two aforementioned shows, please do give a holler (I
would say Chicago as well, but I believe my car is full for that one). I
don't have my directions in front of me, but if anyone emails me privately
(and of course wants a ride), I'll be happy to fill you in on how I'm going,
and from there we can relay specific directions. Wow, now that I reread
this, it's just about as clear as mud.
Back to work...
David Plotkin
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:58:08 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moaning women (D-Mang)
Message-ID: <354650F0.81D5B358@caribe.net>
Christopher R. Merlo wrote:
> The iban graced my inbox with:
>
> > << While this probably doesn't classify as "moaning" per se, I always thought
> > the
> > girl at the beginning of Vai's "I Would Love To" ("You know, I'm very very
> > shy") always sounded really sexy.
> > >>
> >
> > ewwww man you's a sicko.... thats a little boy who says that
> > LMFAO
>
> Oh, get your head out of your ass, Rocky. That's a chick. :)
actually , the little boy is the other one.. the one who says something about a
ballad something bla bla.... BUT ive always though the girl that says the very shy
line.. is a very young girl..(teenaged), and its not that bad for me since im only
18...and ive had the cd for about 3 years... hehe but still would be kind of a sick
thing for D :0)
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:02:33 -0700
From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Confusing situation and a bit 'bout John P
Message-ID: <01bd72f1$58c78f00$0100007f@localhost>
>>I don't really know what to think about John Petrucci... I mean, he's an
>>inevidable asset for the band DT, and he sure as hell got the *speed*
>>and the *perfection*... but has he got the *feeling*?
Hell Yeah!! His note choice and precision is impeccable.
He has alot of feeling! Listen to 'Kindred Spirits' and 'Freedom
of Speech' on Liquid Tension Experiment. That has so much
*feeling* it makes you want to weep.
>>me, but Petrucci's play doesn't have the *sparkle* or the *move* that
>>JS and SV have. Oh, what an UNFAIR comparison, you think...
>
For me, JP has taken Satriani's Style of Melodic play to another level.
He utilizes melodic content (note choice) at the right spots. Satch is
who got me into guitar so I will always admire him in a special way.
peace,
--james--
www.jamesthorpe.com
mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:59:17 -0800
From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moaning women
Message-ID: <v01540b01b16c1a8d6bde@[205.134.244.129]>
Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> wrote:
>ok, let me start off by saying this is not for me. (really)
>
>
> My friend asked about songs that have moaning women in it.
> Two examples were:
>
> Rocket Queen - Guns N Roses
> More Human than Human - White Zombie
>
>
> Oh, music aficionados on this list, can you name others?
I wanna add one more...
It is a song called "Infinity" (they use the sign for the name) from the
album called "666" by Aphrodite's Child. It's a prog band from Greece that
Vangelis used to be in. This song is not for a person who has heart disease
though. It's really sick.
Regards,
AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:49:43 -0400
From: Wilson <wilsncat@erols.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Moaning women
Message-ID: <199804282350.TAA28885@smtp1.erols.com>
One more for the Moaning women thread:
Aroused by Enuff Z'nuff, from their album 1985.
Highly Recommended.
Signing off......Kevin (WilsonCat)
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:35:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Moaning Women
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980428203232.25474A-100000@archa12.cc.uga.edu>
Aren't there moaning women all through Angra's albums?
Oh, sorry, that's just Matos.
:)
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Album Currently Playing: Dave Matthews Band--Before These Crowded Streets
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Matt Smith "When Dream and Day Unite, Images and Words
ktulu@arches.uga.edu Awake A Change of Seasons Falling Into
Infinity."
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:41:38 EDT
From: Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: moaning women, like me
Message-ID: <6a2fe56b.35467743@aol.com>
for a good examples of moaning women, prince (or tafkap) has a LOT of songs
that fit that bill. how can we forget samantha fox moaning at us in her 80s-
hit song "touch me, "i wanna feel your body)".
also, if you listen REEEEEALY carefully, you can hear JON ANDERSON moaning
like the woman he is at the very end of "owner of a lonely heart."
koba, wild.
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david y. kobayashi
new york law school
thrak75@aol.com
"i'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints." -on the wall at
tripwire's
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:42:25 -0700
From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moaning women
Message-ID: <35476681.1AD8@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
Blood Duster's first release Fisting the Dead had a track which was
entirely a sample of a moaning woman....
"Oooohhhh......ohhhhhhhhhhh....ohhhhhhhhhhh....fuck me, yeah"
heh heh...
Also Chris Groves mentioned the new Blood Duster album with the tree
sample...
That's cool "Your a queer lookin rooster arent' ya!"
The guy sounds exactly like my uncle...so bloody Australian!!
Cheers
Paul D.
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:36:19 -0400
From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Females Moaning and Groaning
Message-ID: <35468412.88A5D4F3@ic3.ithaca.edu>
For songs with females moaning and groaning in them:
Bon Jovi - Social Disease
~Chris
-- Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools.- King Crimson
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:42:43 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: moaning women, like me Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980428224207.17825A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Thrak75 wrote:
> also, if you listen REEEEEALY carefully, you can hear JON ANDERSON moaning > like the woman he is at the very end of "owner of a lonely heart."
Hahaha!
You took the words from my mouth, koba!
[]s, Roger...
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